Responding to KSI vs Jake Paul Backlash..

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THE FIGHT CARD - RIL & WILLS

THE FIGHT CARD - RIL & WILLS

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@Nova45-v6y
@Nova45-v6y Жыл бұрын
Leon cooking the fan 😂
@BenjaminoTalks
@BenjaminoTalks Жыл бұрын
as he should
@Nova45-v6y
@Nova45-v6y Жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminoTalksI am ksi fan but fuck me he dick rides JJ to much.
@jacktease27
@jacktease27 Жыл бұрын
He should going at Wade, Sensei, Leon and Viddal people who have infinitely more knowledge then him. Also he's always just stirring the pot constantly
@wespicedmemes
@wespicedmemes Жыл бұрын
Nah Leon could roast your whole life and they’d be nothing you can do about it😂
@Nova45-v6y
@Nova45-v6y Жыл бұрын
@@wespicedmemes 🤣😂
@NoName-ye9jw
@NoName-ye9jw Жыл бұрын
The worst thing is, KSI shook The Fan's hand and said he rated him. He's essentially enabled and co-signed his activity.
@kamuishortsgamer3728
@kamuishortsgamer3728 Жыл бұрын
JJ is very insecure. Ofc he did. I respect his hard work, but it falls flat when u realize how sensitive he is. He made a whole persona because of his sensitivity lol
@MTMuppet
@MTMuppet Жыл бұрын
I think that was before he showed his true colours. Since then he’s become an absolute nightmare, and I think JJ acknowledging him enabled that.
@ammar675
@ammar675 Жыл бұрын
JJ did it so he wouldn't get any backslash from the mental health community. He's already been apart of a few
@ammar675
@ammar675 Жыл бұрын
​@kamuishortsgamer3728 we all have insecurities. He's a guy who's emotional. Which is why his friends and manager help him
@primella8135
@primella8135 Жыл бұрын
@@MTMuppethis true colors were shown long long before ksi meet him
@tendo824
@tendo824 Жыл бұрын
I love how Leon’s chilling until 0:58 and then ACTIVATES with ‘Jabba The Hutt’ 🤣🤣🤣
@brandonadam7167
@brandonadam7167 Жыл бұрын
Lmao, the guy is an obese dude who does nothing else but tweet about someone he barely knows about. The fact that he's trying to go after a Strength and Conditioning coach and a national Boxing champion makes him deserving of this slander
@nathanr7599
@nathanr7599 Жыл бұрын
LEON KILLS ME 😭😭😭
@1x.edoliver26
@1x.edoliver26 Жыл бұрын
Jabba the hut is crazy 😂😂😂😭💀
@Znop
@Znop Жыл бұрын
"I wonder how it developed" Mams Taylor, Keemstar and KSI is how it developed. Mams Taylor actively endorsed him, Keemstar gave him a job commentating and KSI gave him validation.
@MTMuppet
@MTMuppet Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if either Leon or Viddal are still close with JJ, but somebody needs to tell him just how much damage the fan has done to JJ’s reputation and following.
@MSG-x2t
@MSG-x2t Жыл бұрын
He’s done it to himself, he should have kept Leon as a S&C, Shootfighters allowing Bradley Martin to call out his poor techniques. It ain’t no coincidence he’s had all this drama and controversy around since befriending a scam artist and starting a beverage company with him. His manager is a weird dude as well. KSI is someone who is steered easily and needs good people around him to keep him grounded.
@onyijenny
@onyijenny Жыл бұрын
Ksi don't have a remain with leon and viddal.
@onyijenny
@onyijenny Жыл бұрын
​@@MSG-x2tnah ksi is freaking good. You all can say what you want. It's your opinion. Ksi won't change for any of them
@basedmario173
@basedmario173 Жыл бұрын
He's an undercover Jake paul fan
@tlb1609
@tlb1609 Жыл бұрын
The delusion in some of these fans is getting out of hand and dangerous, im a ksi fan too but i totally agree with viddal's rating, i would even say it was a bit generous too
@Ignornaceisntbliss
@Ignornaceisntbliss Жыл бұрын
It's very generous. KSI should not have a 10 in anything, at least from what I've witnessed in his matches. Perhaps Vidal has behind the scenes knowledge or even first-hand experience that influenced his rating, but KSI doesn't deserve a 10 in power or durability based on what I've seen from him in the ring.
@محمدعبدالله-ض7ي3غ
@محمدعبدالله-ض7ي3غ Жыл бұрын
​@Ignornaceisntbd9nt care about it we all can agree ksi sleeps.jake liss
@number8139
@number8139 Жыл бұрын
Yeah defo in Leon’s words “keemstar’s experiments” - others, making this thing disgusting can’t even have an opinion without either being delusional or a glazer there’s no winning lol
@Ignornaceisntbliss
@Ignornaceisntbliss Жыл бұрын
@leytonwalker1190 I know, but at the same time, the fact that KSI couldn't knock out an extremely skinny Mexican or even drop Tommy, and his only legit knockout was against Temper who is also quite skinny doesn't speak well for his power either. Giving someone a 10 who couldn't knock out a walking stick man is a joke.
@ronan8834
@ronan8834 Жыл бұрын
​@@Ignornaceisntblissand temper was coming of a brutal ko already before the ksi fight
@Sosa-lb
@Sosa-lb Жыл бұрын
It's funny how these fan think they know jj more than these guys do ksi probably respects viddals opinion aswell
@uonecar
@uonecar Жыл бұрын
are you talking about the same people who are paid by JJ
@Sosa-lb
@Sosa-lb Жыл бұрын
@@uonecar idk what your saying im just saying everyone has opinions and when people don't agree with your opinions it's a problem
@Sym761
@Sym761 Жыл бұрын
​@@uonecarthey're not paid by him 😭😭
@tsgrapiidz6970
@tsgrapiidz6970 Жыл бұрын
@@uonecar theyre not paid by him anymore
@yttanel
@yttanel Жыл бұрын
"Keemstars experiment" love Leon man 😂
@Godsmasterpeach
@Godsmasterpeach Жыл бұрын
Honestly, one of the main reasons I left the ksi Twitter community, shit is mainly full of toxic fans that have no idea what they’re talking abt and posts every thoughts/takes in their head on Twitter like it’s extraordinary or sum
@shipzone2267
@shipzone2267 Жыл бұрын
Real. Specially that AOTP Hunter guy lmao
@matt1978
@matt1978 Жыл бұрын
Yea and don't get me wrong I'm one of the people that belive KSI is really underrated as a boxer and people don't take him as serious as he takes himself, but I've seen the Fan say he sees shades of a early Mike Tyson and in 4 years he would have a extremely competive fight with fuckin Usyk, I don't even really use Twitter anymore because it's just full of stupidity and negativity
@liam10123
@liam10123 Жыл бұрын
Everyone on Twitter who ain’t an influence of some sort is mentally ill they just go there to express their insane beliefs and opinions anonymously, bunch of weirdos 😂
@acenla4715
@acenla4715 Жыл бұрын
Leon is tired of “the fan” we all are 😂😂
@shipzone2267
@shipzone2267 Жыл бұрын
The fan guy and that AOTP_Hunter person are the worst thing happened to KSI. His fanbase so delusional and toxic. That hunter guy running multiple KSI fan accounts like bro get a job. What's wrong with these kids. They are crying over KSI's loss like it's their life lmao. He was emailing PBA and everything
@MTMuppet
@MTMuppet Жыл бұрын
During the pandemic, the KSI community was absolutely incredible. It was so much fun, and was an escape for those who needed it. Now, it’s full of people like “the fan” who have absolutely ruined it was toxicity and hate. It’s genuinely damaged JJ’s reputation and following.
@محمدعبدالله-ض7ي3غ
@محمدعبدالله-ض7ي3غ Жыл бұрын
I mean ksi won
@joshuaw2493
@joshuaw2493 Жыл бұрын
​@@محمدعبدالله-ض7ي3غ u exactly who he's describing lmao
@nylepentik2696
@nylepentik2696 Жыл бұрын
@@MTMuppeta lot of his “mature fans” from then grew up, got jobs, maybe are starting a family etc and aren’t as interactive/involved anymore. sure they might watch the fights, but they ain’t gonna be typing out comments on opposing views, or arguing shit. silent majority init.
@MAT-wn5fr
@MAT-wn5fr Жыл бұрын
​@@محمدعبدالله-ض7ي3غNo he didn't
@benmcreynolds8581
@benmcreynolds8581 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that people (creditable people) are giving GENUINE criticism to KSI's boxing. I personally think they were being nice to KSI. There is so many areas KSI could improve in.. He really needs to evolve & become more dynamic. It's weird how many people defend him
@brandonadam7167
@brandonadam7167 Жыл бұрын
It's funny how KSI fans think they know him personally from their 5-second long interactions with the guy in public, and feel they could criticize others and attack their character for having different opinions on him. It's like they forgot that Viddal and Leon have both known KSI personally and trained him FOR YEARS. If anyone has a right to talk about JJ for his Boxing ability and/or his character, it is absolutely these two people, not some kid who saw JJ in a mall once and got a quick photo with him.
@michaelogbuabia
@michaelogbuabia Жыл бұрын
Fr
@onyijenny
@onyijenny Жыл бұрын
Leon and viddal no longer know him. Everyone wants him for money.
@OptimumCrusader
@OptimumCrusader Жыл бұрын
@@onyijenny You’re delusional. Plain and simple.
@onyijenny
@onyijenny Жыл бұрын
@@OptimumCrusader okay. It's a hard truth
@jarloes
@jarloes Жыл бұрын
Facts!!! 👏
@Rjk_9
@Rjk_9 Жыл бұрын
I’m convinced the fan is a character at this point
@shyguyx1219
@shyguyx1219 Жыл бұрын
Has to be. I think he is just farming engagements so he can get a little twitter check every month. I don't think bro has a solid job.
@mr.o3062
@mr.o3062 Жыл бұрын
@@shyguyx1219he’s been doing this for 9 months though, he may just be autistic
@Sam-ox9il
@Sam-ox9il Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see viddal fight again
@rnggeorge4991
@rnggeorge4991 Жыл бұрын
this is why this is the realist channel on youtube. no smoke blowing at all. just pure facts no matter what side
@chelseawebb8461
@chelseawebb8461 Жыл бұрын
Let's be real, Mams can't handle the criticism of KSI just like The Fan. The fan is nothing but a weirdo Make-A-Wish KSI charity case that people feel sorry for. He doesn't live in objective reality when it comes to KSI. He doesn't count.
@michaelogbuabia
@michaelogbuabia Жыл бұрын
Viddal and Leon are in right to show critique of Jj they've been around JJ and have trained him since the start of influencer boxing and since it was established. Not only that they quite clearly have lot of knowledge when it comes to combat sports they've litteraly been around combat sports since youth they know their shit Viddal is litteraly a professional fighter himself so if anyone knows anything about combat sports in the influencer boxing community its them
@kaguranymeia2369
@kaguranymeia2369 Жыл бұрын
I mostly agreed, though personally I would make Durability and Stamina to be distinct measurements, as it seems they were both largely based purely on stamina which is where confusion comes from. - I think some people would see Jake as more durable a fighter, e.g., better chin, but on the other hand people may also say that KSI has better stamina because he did star jumps for 6 rounds. - So I think make them distinct stats otherwise it's just a dodgy metric Also, I think the problem with rating power, is that there is experience you have first-hand from training KSI, and on the other hand nothing available on Jake Paul, bar what has been publicly displayed in the ring. So in this regard if you're comparing them both then I think it should be assessed strictly on what they've achieved inside of the ring on their fight night (Sparring and training excluded) - As in this regard I wouldn't rate their power more than 1 point apart. - I mean yes Jake has fought people that have been naturally lighter, but in the same vein, the opposition that Jake has fought, whilst they have been MMA fighters, they have still be used to getting clocked across the face, which I think should be accounted for as well.
@extraterrestrialhorse9722
@extraterrestrialhorse9722 Жыл бұрын
Jake would have killed Temperr the same way JJ killed him and that's the only guy that KSI KO-ed clean...
@oPeY4President
@oPeY4President Жыл бұрын
Wrong.. Jake’s boxing style will struggle more with the Temperr’s wary style, southpaw jab and reach making it harder and takes longer to set up a KO like KSI did because of being wild (Jake isn’t wild like that) but risk-reward KSI has faith he can eat a punch clean to land a KO shot, also weight class, Jake would have to go down (not too much) to meet Temperr for you to equal it with the KSI fight.. not Temperr ballooning up which makes him even slower, which you don’t know how that drains affects Jake’s power till you see.. Fight Maths doesn’t work like that, you don’t know what a fight looks like till it happens, styles make fights​. If you actually watch boxing or box bro you would know this🤦🏿‍♂️@@extraterrestrialhorse9722
@extraterrestrialhorse9722
@extraterrestrialhorse9722 Жыл бұрын
@@oPeY4President Temperrr got caught by Slim and Ginty... yes styles make fights but Jake has all the tools in the shed to set it up and land it. But my point wasn't about landing it. My point was assuming he did, it would knock the soul out of Temperrr in regards to power. Temperrr is way less durable than the guys Jake has fought despite them being "washed and undersized".
@joshuamartinez770
@joshuamartinez770 Жыл бұрын
Slims is not a wild fighter like KSI and he was able to knock out temper in the second round. Yeah temper is southpaw but Jake’s has fought many southpaws himself like Anderson Silva and Nate Diaz and he did well against them. Plus I depends on the weight as well because if they were to fight at 190 then Jake would Knock him out faster the KSI. But at 180, he most likely probably wouldn’t have Knock him out as fast a KSI did because the Style Jake uses would have made him to wear him down a bit. Jake would probably KO him in a few rounds no matter the weight.
@Yelamar1
@Yelamar1 Жыл бұрын
The Ksi fan base back in 2019-2021 was elite, now it’s dogshit
@MysticMarble
@MysticMarble Жыл бұрын
Leon saying what everyone thinking about that weirdo fan kid, jj shouldn’t have enabled his behaviour either
@moondog1246
@moondog1246 Жыл бұрын
Power is still weird to me. You guys say how Jake fights lighter opponents, but so did jj with Luis and swarmz who had two weeks of training and he couldn’t knock them both out cold, Alex wasabi has a better knock down against Luis than Ksi. Jake has also dropped the hardest opponent in Tyron woodley and Anderson Silva who beats everyone jj has fought
@JesusCruz-tj7gl
@JesusCruz-tj7gl Жыл бұрын
Fr
@ChaoticSpectre.
@ChaoticSpectre. Жыл бұрын
Bro the fan is so jarring i beyond belief seriously man twitter need to stop giving him this much recognition when he adds so little to the community
@janeshkumar8448
@janeshkumar8448 Жыл бұрын
The fan is genuinely one of the most pathetic and saddest things the internet has seen
@FatboyReg
@FatboyReg Жыл бұрын
Shut up don’t disrespect the fan he the goat 🐐
@dakiddab779
@dakiddab779 Жыл бұрын
@@FatboyReghe’s a virgin
@Vengeance622
@Vengeance622 Жыл бұрын
@@FatboyRegGoat of what? Being a pedo and a creep?
@RanDomShit2398
@RanDomShit2398 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny that ksi fans are upset about these ratings when these ratings are still bias to ksi
@robinkandra6855
@robinkandra6855 Жыл бұрын
jake and ksi are both terrible boxers
@MAT-wn5fr
@MAT-wn5fr Жыл бұрын
​@@robinkandra6855Jake is better than KSI but yh he's also a novice
@The-fs5wn
@The-fs5wn Жыл бұрын
⁠@@MAT-wn5frthat “novice” slept a 10-1 pro on a 7 fight win streak in the first round. He’s not world class, but neither were a lot of the top star’s first pro opponents (in fact, most were significantly worse). Is Jake Paul a world title contender right now? No. Is he really good at boxing? Yes.
@4Rango
@4Rango Жыл бұрын
Jake’s power Being a 7 and jjs a 10 makes no sense cos Jake’s fights naturally ligher ppl? Same with jj even if Jake’s opponents has naturally been lighter they can take punches way more than jjs opponents
@HashimSirajMahmood
@HashimSirajMahmood Жыл бұрын
13:33 'RIL Cards' has a nice ring to it. I do appreciate the interactive nature of this content because it forces the audience to speak about boxing and getting behind their favourite boxer but not just as a fan boy but it would be a technical conversation esp. after you're breaking things down further. ❤
@RubeyCS
@RubeyCS Жыл бұрын
how is leon gonna say he has a pizza gogo platinum card 💀💀💀
@D_FB1
@D_FB1 Жыл бұрын
“He’s got a pizza go go platinum card” 😂😂
@HashimSirajMahmood
@HashimSirajMahmood Жыл бұрын
15:20 I love the breakdown of the numbers of the scoring, much more transparent and for laymen like myself, it would be very educational and informative
@kingslay727
@kingslay727 Жыл бұрын
Bro are we serious? 8:24 First thing I’m a jj fan I’ve been a fan since before sidemen but to say Jake fights guys who are light but then say jj dose not is straight bull shit Temper, Pineda, even joe weller we’re all size wise smaller and yes before people get on my 🍆 joe was in better shape more swoll but that’s not the wait for his body type he should be smaller. Swarms was fat and out of shape and knew nothing on how to box I’ll smoke that swarms. Temper was already shown to have a glass chin. Pineda did not want to even be in the ring that night it was clear he was doing it for money. Joe Fournier was trash and that fight don’t even count cuz jj knocked it down with tbt elbow but I will says he was shit I think jj was going to get the ko regardless. That leaves just his Paul fight and joe fight Joe weller DID NOT THROW A FUCKING PUCH, he was all bark no bite Logan till tommy fury was by a mile jj’s strongest competitor and Logan for how long it’s been is still shit he should be way better with that size and reach and snappy jab he could be better then jj and Jake if he had that killer mind like jj and Jake. So with that said I’ll say jj won that first fight it was not a draw the second one tho I had Logan winning till the two points taken jj was clearly out boxed that night just showed massive heart and will but if not for the two points he lose that fight So with all that said I’ll say jj did I’m my opinion beat tommy I feel he took away jab he landed just as much a Tommy and he threw less and I think he land the more powerful and meaningful punches but I was also some who felt Jake did enough vs Tommy to get a draw tommy never had Jake hurt and Jake did score a knock down and I felt those’s rounds were closer then judges scored it. JJ did do better then Jake in that fight but that delusions to say jj’s power is better when we see who’s he fought vs jakes opponent guys who fight yes not boxing but they fight they take bangs they know what It takes to win and Jake has slept them or dropped them if you give jj a 10 Jake gets a 10 no way you can say he Hits harder based off performance an opponents. I get you have felt his power but you don’t know Jake’s you never felt it so to say that it’s biased (I’m a jj fan) but facts are facts they have to have even or jj is 1 less just do to performance. All I’m saying
@LordDelantero
@LordDelantero Жыл бұрын
4:45 i agree but lee some of us been watching real boxing for years and been to multiple amature gyms ahahha. big up tho i get what your saying with the younger fans like 'the fan' who just glaze and dont know wtf they are saying
@thunderstormbad
@thunderstormbad Жыл бұрын
He literally does look like he hasn’t seen sunlight in a long time I agree with Leon. When he was at the misfits event he can barely open his eyes and his shoulders and hair are covered in dandruff
@JohnHikes
@JohnHikes Жыл бұрын
The fan is insane. If you take him serious, you are touched as he is.
@dixonyamada6969
@dixonyamada6969 Жыл бұрын
if u discount jake's power for knocking out lighter opponents coming up to his weight, you REALLY need to discount ksi's power cos he couldn't knock out pineda.
@joetonello
@joetonello Жыл бұрын
Jake's opponents fight him, Pineda ran for 3 rounds and was knocked down 5 times 3 of those to body shots that logic makes almost 0 sense
@dixonyamada6969
@dixonyamada6969 Жыл бұрын
@@joetonello 15 people disagree with you.
@neonroses5444
@neonroses5444 Жыл бұрын
The fan pissed Leon off so badly that he started singing 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@MohammedAli-fb9cp
@MohammedAli-fb9cp Жыл бұрын
The only thing I disagreed with was jakes iq I don’t remember seeing someone in the influencer realm showing more IQ than jake
@kingkesh3858
@kingkesh3858 Жыл бұрын
While 10 year olds were watching that video on Christmas Day complaining i was spending Christmas Eve and Christmas with family like a normal family man
@benfarrell2849
@benfarrell2849 Жыл бұрын
Don't stop boys keeping it ril as always big love
@TylerrCooke
@TylerrCooke Жыл бұрын
bro should be called 'The STALKER' not 'The Fan'
@superchamploo1155
@superchamploo1155 Жыл бұрын
He called him Jabba the hut LMAOOOO Pizza gogo-platinum card 😭
@21NillOfa
@21NillOfa Жыл бұрын
imo in Viddal's perspective making a video like this about Jake vs Ksi is a lose lose situation either he puts Jake winning and you get backlash and called a Hater like he is getting now, or if it was the other way around you get called bias and unfair , i dont agree with some of his ratings but the outcome was what i expected, to me Jake is more complete and favourite to win a fight
@oliverprstholm8716
@oliverprstholm8716 Жыл бұрын
Jake literally showed more power vs tommy, snapped his head back 90 degrees with a short hook
@uhmz1212
@uhmz1212 Жыл бұрын
Regarding power. I say it again. Ksi fought guys with 0 fighting experience or months of training. Guys who aren’t used to get punched in the face. He barely slept anyone. Also these guys never did weight cuts like the professionals jake fought. Those mma guys are 200+ lbs guys during training off season then cut down to 170 being like 190 at fight night. Jake dropped and slept guys. So based on the fights Jake surely got one or two up on ksi. It is not hating it is being real! Got to understand fighting to get it i guess.
@everestjumper1
@everestjumper1 Жыл бұрын
the fan is the perfect embodiment of eminem’s song STAN
@TheBoxField
@TheBoxField Жыл бұрын
It's influencer Boxing, but it's Boxing.. Rightly said.
@TheIonBull
@TheIonBull Жыл бұрын
I think the idea about showing the working out mechanics on the video etc is a great idea
@Hazrd_
@Hazrd_ Жыл бұрын
Bro don't give the fan light😂😂
@HashimSirajMahmood
@HashimSirajMahmood Жыл бұрын
13:43 Top Trumps App is a mad idea. Brother Viddal is moving differently, super impressed by his creative brain. ❤
@alexandergettie1507
@alexandergettie1507 Жыл бұрын
The fan is the very embodiment of a stan for ksi. Like it legit worries me how obsessed he is if i was ksi i would legit be paranoid about him.
@SoySaucing
@SoySaucing Жыл бұрын
3:41 love this helpin eachother
@michaelgouffet
@michaelgouffet Жыл бұрын
Mams is similar to the fan in a way. He gets mad when people give their opinions on ksi. He tweeted after vidal made the video talking about loyalty and snakes or something.
@kieranosullivan02
@kieranosullivan02 Жыл бұрын
yeah mams acts like ksi's dad who cannot accept that his son is not perfect in every way 😂
@darkwc11
@darkwc11 Жыл бұрын
People need to realize these rival cards truly mean nothing to how the fight actually plays out. They are just for fun because nobody knows how they will fight against eachother. Much love to yall for being real.
@marrx3884
@marrx3884 Жыл бұрын
KSI is also kinda to blaim. He gives the fan a lot of love
@Muniiks
@Muniiks Жыл бұрын
You two are the best when discussing the influencer boxing scene always keeping real it 🫡some of the fans can’t handle the truth 🤷🏾‍♂️
@saoudenhajji7041
@saoudenhajji7041 Жыл бұрын
You see the respect Viddal has for Leon in the way he listens to him Amazing to see
@ladmma2
@ladmma2 Жыл бұрын
This is why these two are the rilist and the realest
@gibbo3163
@gibbo3163 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see KSI’s reaction to the original video. Critics are always gonna have something to say about KSI, but when it comes from someone he probably considers a friend I’d be interested to see how he took it, well I’d imagine I’m sure there’s no hard feelings
@macapple4186
@macapple4186 Жыл бұрын
When you bring up Jake fighting people naturally lower weight than him, you should also bring up Pineda being 3-4 weight classes below KSI.
@SoySaucing
@SoySaucing Жыл бұрын
1:00 jabba the hut 💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣
@SolarErazer
@SolarErazer Жыл бұрын
I like truth and not propaganda, and this channel delivers truth and facts
@lewisgriffin9684
@lewisgriffin9684 Жыл бұрын
It's pretty sad when people can't even have an opinion anymore without getting backlash
@alessandrogarcia7217
@alessandrogarcia7217 Жыл бұрын
Exactly man I knew I wasn’t the only one thinking this
@Shadowban_tv
@Shadowban_tv Жыл бұрын
Leon is amazing 😂 keems stars experiment, mental health, its all golden lines
@SSmith92547
@SSmith92547 Жыл бұрын
Shows everything what’s wrong influencer boxing when that “the fan” got any clout at all. Guy is absolutely fucking wrongen. He should be involved in the next Ringer 2 never mind misfits ffs
@mayhemarmwrestling
@mayhemarmwrestling Жыл бұрын
I think you should add range control to the card. That seems to be a massive factor when it comes to boxing.
@sgmotto7280
@sgmotto7280 Жыл бұрын
Remember when “power ranger belt viddal” dissed shannan Briggs for making that sound with his mouth but viddal does it 😂
@Jsquared2
@Jsquared2 Жыл бұрын
Leon is too quick man said he has the Pizza GoGo platinum card 💀💀💀
@skydawn1472
@skydawn1472 Жыл бұрын
The fan and his Twitter spaces with mutuals is just a circle of pure drama and toxicity in their circle of “friends”. You know it’s bad when Viddal has to block you too 💀
@SoySaucing
@SoySaucing Жыл бұрын
I love savage leon man 😂😂😂
@4x4CampingandAdventures
@4x4CampingandAdventures Жыл бұрын
The fan just needs to retire it’s just cringe now.
@VariantC999
@VariantC999 Жыл бұрын
Jake knocked down Tommy, jj did not there u go Jake has more power. That's the realistic way to look at it that performance jj put on against Tommy was laughable and he would get piece up by any amateur boxer. Jake on the other hand showed he can box a boxer and have the power to knock them down
@lidaaletap2646
@lidaaletap2646 Жыл бұрын
Jake didn't knock Tommy down because of his power, that's a false equivalence and the argument doesn't hold because Tommy slipped at the same time he got jabbed, so it wasn't because of Jakes power (yes it's a legit knockdown) but it wasn't because of his power
@michaelogbuabia
@michaelogbuabia Жыл бұрын
Jake didn't show he could box a boxer what you on about? He tried to box with Tommy and got outboxed for 6 of the 8 rounds and made zero adjustments 😂😂😂 and despite the quality of the fight between KSI's fight with Tommy it was more competitive and technically better
@VariantC999
@VariantC999 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelogbuabia yes he did what drugs u on u like sucking jj that much? Jake went 8 full rounds with him and the amount of punches landed is over quadruple the amount jj landed. Because all jj and Tommy did was clench they didn't box cause jj don't know how to technically box. He just throws wild then goes in for the clench. Stop even commenting if u don't know shit about boxing. Next u never evan had your hands rapped before
@VariantC999
@VariantC999 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelogbuabia u saying jj and Tommy was more competitive shows u know nothing about this sport. I'ma guess your around he age of 12. Grow up and get a mind of your own
@Ignornaceisntbliss
@Ignornaceisntbliss Жыл бұрын
@@michaelogbuabia Technically better🤣🤣🤣 Did you watch the fight.
@spidermanfan447
@spidermanfan447 Жыл бұрын
need to team up more with wade and sensei, these 4 men are the realest mother fuckers in the scene. so refreshing
@5isontop
@5isontop Жыл бұрын
keemstars experiment 🤣🤣 na Leon kills me
@uchihaibz
@uchihaibz Жыл бұрын
I really don’t understand how anyone can say ksi is higher rating😂 he’s fought absolutely no one and the one time he did fight someone he lost and it was a terrible fight.
@toha9460
@toha9460 Жыл бұрын
JJ didnt knock out pineda who was 20 pounds lighter though u cant say well jake knocks out light guys KSI didnt knock out the light guy then theres swarmz 2 weeks training didnt knock him out either i think if u put jake in with either of them it would have been knock outs
@MashA-vn6hp
@MashA-vn6hp Жыл бұрын
Viddal and Leon with straight facts 💯
@MrSoulTv
@MrSoulTv Жыл бұрын
I have a little bit of input that I was thinking about watching this, I understand that you know JJ out of the ring a lot which is great and you would have more of an understanding of what to rate JJ that's all completely fine but my question is more about the Jake Ratings which I don't really disagree with tbh but in saying that you don't have as much outside knowledge on Jake like you do for JJ.. So wouldn't it make more sense to rate them on performance results and I know thats not fair too you because how do you not use the information you know I am just saying people are jumping up and down with the JJ results and if I am honest you gave JJ higher scores then I would have but I am no expert of course.
@Alexander-jy8jc
@Alexander-jy8jc Жыл бұрын
07:58 the same argument goes for Ksi. Luis Pineda fought at 139 - 145 lbs before the ksi fight (didn’t KO him). Swarmz, I don’t even need to explain (couldn’t KO him to sleep either. The Temper fight was impressive, but still the guy got out to sleep 2 months before that fight by Slim. And then we have the knock down on Logan that also was impressive and can get compared to Jakes knock down on Tommy. Jake have knocked down every opponent he has fought (except his amateur fight vs deji) Which I think you need to take in to consideration. That is why I don’t think it’s fair to put Jake’s power at 7 but ksi’s power at 10.
@internetfightsports
@internetfightsports Жыл бұрын
That was like 5 years ago. He was around 165 in his other fights that year.
@internetfightsports
@internetfightsports Жыл бұрын
I agree they should both be 8 imo.
@fourwheelerjock
@fourwheelerjock Жыл бұрын
Love how tou guys talk about Jake's opponents weight. But won't bring up JJs opponents skills. JJ was facing bums, He even admitted on Ariels show that jake faced the better opponets. You can't give durability off of a stamina rating... Stamina has nothing to do with durability... Even then jake has done 4 more rounds which is almost twice as long as JJ has done.. Jake's chin has been tested, JJs hasn't bc his opponents was always on the back foot... Durability easily goes to jake, As for power, Jake has slept 2 or 3 opponents to where they didn't even get up at all, Against better opponents as well. JJ has never done that. Jake has also knocked down everyone he has faced. You can't base skill or power off of sparring. It's only one the fights that are in the night. If we based shit off of sparring then a lot of people would be world Champs 🤣. Your alls explanation for that MAD rating on durability and power is ridiculous and doesn't change anything
@theoutsiderjess1869
@theoutsiderjess1869 Жыл бұрын
The only thing I disagreed with you on was JJ being more powerful than Jake because JJ has 2 ko one with his elbow and the other being Faze temper Jake has knocked out much better people than JJ so far
@JailBr3ak3r77
@JailBr3ak3r77 Жыл бұрын
Yes this time with Leon’s perspective!
@redrum173
@redrum173 Жыл бұрын
Jake has defo more skill level then jj in all of boxing only thing is jj ain't 10 for power of jakes power
@shawnterrance7204
@shawnterrance7204 Жыл бұрын
jake would be the favorite and KSI would be the underdog just like he was the underdog against logan simple as that doesnt mean KSI doesnt have a chance
@Budz11
@Budz11 Жыл бұрын
tbf, this type of drama is keeping influencer boxing alive. Isn't the fan just a troll
@accountnew7030
@accountnew7030 Жыл бұрын
BIG MAN TING STYLL 🔥🔥🔥
@musamendy5047
@musamendy5047 Жыл бұрын
Well put out. People watch one misfits event and think they are experts lol.
@Ainra100
@Ainra100 Жыл бұрын
This is why i love watching thes mans they are more knowledgeable then me with the sport and say it how it is. Imo JJ ruins his reputation a bit by accepting rides from people like The fan and cant take criticisms he loves getting his ass licked... Sad that thats one of the reason he can't take Wade cause Wade keeps it real
@davidjenkins2429
@davidjenkins2429 Жыл бұрын
Love this show ❤
@davidblaine9920
@davidblaine9920 Жыл бұрын
Leon saying that because ksi is evasive thats his blocking scheme is kinda stupid and a very poor blocking scheme. Ksi cant even do a high guard properly dude does no defense outside of trying to use his speed to avoid shots.
@yacineamari4509
@yacineamari4509 Жыл бұрын
People forget this is youtube. The platform is made for voicing your opinions. If you disagree with the given information, take a more logical and mature approach instead of belittling someone's opinion just to get attention. Great video, some KSI fans really be doing too much though😂
@Savage_187
@Savage_187 Жыл бұрын
It’s just the fanboys that get upset. It’s ok to disagree and ask questions but when you’re calling ppl names or saying they are wrong simply because they don’t have the same opinion is absurd!!
@ImzyH
@ImzyH Жыл бұрын
Leon speaking facts The fan isnt just a fan, he is the biggest most massive KSI D rider and even with KSI massive ego, he must get tired and annoyed of the fan
@LordDelantero
@LordDelantero Жыл бұрын
but yall dont understand viddal is right. we all knew jake would have higher stats to a point a fight with him vs viddal is now in question. it dont mean KSI would lose to jake because as we know if KSI flips a bounce and lads that right hand which actually KOD jake then yh but as far as stats go. jake is heavier so he has more power than JJ fs.
@HiImRawr
@HiImRawr Жыл бұрын
It's very obvious that Jake is a better boxer than KSI. KSI isn't even top 5 out of influencer boxers.
@IamFission
@IamFission Жыл бұрын
If anyone who started boxing and think crossover boxing is the standards then pls don't shout opinions before watching the real thing man. Im a KSI fan and I have been hoping he is doing these star jumps and sht to throw jake off by making him think he cant do traditional boxing and against Jake he pulls off actual boxing but if you think these star jumps and all are it, its not.
@MysticMarble
@MysticMarble Жыл бұрын
KSI fans are the reason why a lot of people turn on ksi
@nelsonrivera8301
@nelsonrivera8301 Жыл бұрын
I get some of Jake’s fights the guys are naturally lighter but we are talking about of difference of about 10 pounds. It’s not that big of a difference to discredit all of Jake’s KOs. Askren and is really the only fighter that “blew up” to fight Jake
@ItsAkile
@ItsAkile Жыл бұрын
Riding meat is crazy
@chunky_mustard5312
@chunky_mustard5312 Жыл бұрын
I really fw Leons shirt
@hotepsalam
@hotepsalam Жыл бұрын
Videl You’re a warrior but Ksi wasn’t born with that heart I understand he’s ya boy but tell him he’s not that guy
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