Response | Intercession: Tawhid or Shirk? | Ammar Nakshawani

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@MohammedAlSharif2002
@MohammedAlSharif2002 2 ай бұрын
Ibn Al-Qayyim: “Yes, he could have with him the Tawhid of Abu Jahl and the idol worshippers, and it is Tawhid Al-Rububiyyah, and it is to recognize that there’s no creator other than Allah. If this Tawhid alone could save, the idol worshippers would’ve been saved. The matter is in Tawhid Al-Ilahiyyah, which separates between the polytheists and monotheists.” مدارج السالكين ١/٤٠٤ The pagan Arabs only committed shirk in Uluhiyyah not Rububiyyah, while these Shias commit shirk in both Uluhiyyah and Rububiyyah!
@user-hi5xq7nx2y
@user-hi5xq7nx2y 2 ай бұрын
محمد بن سلمان يقبل ويحضن بشار الاسد 😉
@Johnny-xk7vw
@Johnny-xk7vw 2 ай бұрын
You don’t know wth your on about fool
@shinmonbenimaru91
@shinmonbenimaru91 2 ай бұрын
The Shia don't even realize how close they are to the Christians
@mfahadfayt
@mfahadfayt 2 ай бұрын
As well as jews and Mushrikeene Makkah of Quraish times
@user-rt4hj7tj5p
@user-rt4hj7tj5p 2 ай бұрын
@@mfahadfayt Also Sunni dont even realize how close they are to the ZOROASTRIAN Avesta. there is a reason by the PERSIANS call Arabs as Ignorant. But Islam will always be from the QURAN and Tawrat(accordinly to the condition in Quran 5 48) Just like Last prophet Muhammed and Zayd ibn thabit judged by THEM
@user-rt4hj7tj5p
@user-rt4hj7tj5p 2 ай бұрын
@@mfahadfayt Talmudic collection is also authored by PERSIAN converts to Judaism. Just like the Hadith collections.
@sword-master
@sword-master 2 ай бұрын
May Allah reward, you brothers and make you a means of guidance for the polytheists
@muslimresponse103
@muslimresponse103 2 ай бұрын
ameen
@respectthemanthatchangesfo760
@respectthemanthatchangesfo760 2 ай бұрын
Ameen
@Johnny-xk7vw
@Johnny-xk7vw 2 ай бұрын
Your mum is a polytheist
@aqua_himself2766
@aqua_himself2766 Ай бұрын
I, as a shia, actually find the person in this video and this video in itself very respectful and this response is very well structured. My own study is that you can name the Prophet or my Wali and then ask from Allah, even I can straight ask my Wali for dua, for instance my Wali is my Mother and I can ask my Wali to Du'a for me. The only difference I see is the difference of Fiqhi and Aqaid.
@muxishine
@muxishine 2 ай бұрын
They hate Ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullaah because of his book Minhaajus-Sunnah refuting their beliefs.
@muslim5211
@muslim5211 2 ай бұрын
Dr.Syed Ali Hur Kamoonpuri and his father from Al Islaah channel have already reformed many ghaali shias towards repentance from SHIRK, because they used their own weaknesses against them: Qur'an, Ahlulbayt & testimony of Shia Ayatullahs triangle, instead of Sahabas and pro Sunni materials. He understood their psychology. He is from their own community so he knows best how to effectively guide them and bring more effective results. No wonder ALLAH raised a messenger from their own community always as mentioned in Quran, because a person from the same community understands all the ins and outs and psychology than outsiders. This Syed's channel needs to be promoted more and spread to other ghaali shias.
@mohsenshehab2042
@mohsenshehab2042 2 ай бұрын
We -as sunnah-worship ALLAH. We do not associate any partners to him.
@Johnny-xk7vw
@Johnny-xk7vw 2 ай бұрын
Kefreen Sunnah
@Johnny-xk7vw
@Johnny-xk7vw 2 ай бұрын
You worship Omar . Shut up
@BBlueu2
@BBlueu2 2 ай бұрын
The greatest servants of Allah are not gods or partners. They're our guides, leaders, teachers, examples of morality, and intercessors. Just like Rasul Muhammad, Rasul Esa, Rasul Musa etc peace be upon them all. Stop being so willfully ignorant.
@user-rt4hj7tj5p
@user-rt4hj7tj5p 2 ай бұрын
You worship ALLAH in words, but in practice are guided by the AVESTAN BOOKS of ZOROASTRIAN PERSIAN converts.
@sameiuraali6103
@sameiuraali6103 Ай бұрын
What dose following ahlubayt have to do with Persian
@TheFaro2011
@TheFaro2011 2 ай бұрын
Ill never understand why when Allah is so IMPLICIT in WORSHIP ONLY HIM, and it's the faith strictly sets it apart from others, and every other faith claiming be to he monoesthiestic .....all weren't because association and raising level of some human figure to Godly level!!! Why oh why do you need an intermediary? Will Allah not listen to His servants because you didn't use a middle man?!
@talibmirza1685
@talibmirza1685 2 ай бұрын
I love the use of Syed Ali Hur Kamoonpuri’s clip. Shia reformists paint a very alternate and moderate picture of shi’ism which reflects early Shia beliefs and is compatible with Ahlus Sunnah
@forster1240
@forster1240 2 ай бұрын
Syed Ali Hurr is brilliant for Dawah against ghulluw Shi'ism. I think his work is the most effective as he is educated in the Shia tradition and he brings proof according to Shia standards.
@iqbalasadi5794
@iqbalasadi5794 2 ай бұрын
May Allah reward you jazak allah khair
@iqbalasadi5794
@iqbalasadi5794 2 ай бұрын
جزاك الله خيرا
@Badri31333
@Badri31333 2 ай бұрын
جزاك اللهُ خيراً
@Afanottrippin
@Afanottrippin 2 ай бұрын
الله یبارك فیك
@seanshui5909
@seanshui5909 2 ай бұрын
Y'all too obsessed with sheikh Nakshawani
@user-vk9dw7er6h
@user-vk9dw7er6h 2 ай бұрын
Iran has one of the highest rates of apostasy in the Islamic world, to the point that most Shiites in Iran have become Christians or atheists, as well as Zoroastrians.
@mukkimerc856
@mukkimerc856 2 ай бұрын
Read Surah Zumar first few verses. The whole Qur'an is about the oneness of Allah. Some people are 🧠💩🐑
@yastheaustralian8590
@yastheaustralian8590 2 ай бұрын
BarakAllah feek ❤️❤️
@respectthemanthatchangesfo760
@respectthemanthatchangesfo760 2 ай бұрын
Jazak Allah ghair
@MushafMehdi1
@MushafMehdi1 Ай бұрын
“O you who believe! Fear Allah and seek a wasila to him”(5:35).
@Angelo-Rules
@Angelo-Rules Ай бұрын
Waseela is the same belief of the Quraysh of Makkah was that they 'prayed' to Allaah through their idols, Allaah said which means, "Unquestionably, for Allah is the pure religion. And those who take protectors besides Him [say], "We only worship them that they may bring us nearer to Allah in position." Indeed, Allah will judge between them concerning that over which they differ. Indeed, Allah does not guide he who is a liar and [confirmed] disbeliever." 39:3 And He said which means, "And do not invoke besides Allah that which neither benefits you nor harms you, for if you did, then indeed you would be of the wrongdoers.'" 10:106
@Angelo-Rules
@Angelo-Rules Ай бұрын
But your Shirk goes beyond that of Quraysh
@Angelo-Rules
@Angelo-Rules Ай бұрын
Saying the Imams have a share in Allaah's Lordship. See Al-Kaafi (1/409), Bihaar al-Anwaar (47/137). (2) Saying the Imams have share in Allaah's Divinity. See Bihaar al-Anwaar (23/364, 27/167), Tafseer al-Qumee (2/251,256), Usool al-Kaafi (1/421, 437), Al-Amalee (pg. 292-293). (3) Saying the Imams have a share in Allaah's Names and Attributes. Reference: Bihaar al-Anwaar (26/27-28), Al-Kaafi (1/261, 148). (4) Saying the Quraan is distorted and altered (as per the majority of their scholars). See Tafseer al-Qumee (1/5-10), al-Kaafi (2/634), Maraaqatul 'Uqool (2/563) (5) Saying the Quraan is created. See Bihaar al-Anwaar (92/117-121), A'yaan ash-Shi'ah (1/461). (6) The status of their Imams is greater than of the prophets. See Bihaar al-Anwaar (25/352), Al-Hukoomah al-Islamiyyah (pg. 52) (7) Imams are essentially treated like God: as al-Kafi (1/409) with the chapter heading, "The earth and the heavens belong to the imams", this is associating the ownership of all creation which is solely for Allaah with the imams. In Bihaar al-Anwar (47/139), Majlisi narrates that that a dead person by the name of Ahmad is raised up by the "permission of Allaah as the permission of Jafar". And Khomeini in al-Hukoomat al-Islamiyyah pg. 52 where he declared the imams control the atoms of the universe. It is also in these same books that we find that verses which mostly speak about shirk and tawheed are compared to wilayah of Ali saying whoever rejects his wilayah is a polytheist, not even caring that these commands of tawheed and refrain from shirk are associated with Allaah, not any wilayah. See Bihar al-Anwar (23/364), Tafseer al-Qumi (2/256). Khomeini in Kashf al-Asrar pg.49 says they seem assistance from sanctified souls, the imams and prophets "to whom Allaah gave the permission to assist." This is identical to the claims of the Quraysh of Makkah who said their idols had permission from Allaah to assist them and it is through these idols they sought closeness to Allaah. See Bihar al-Anwar (94/33) where you invoke different Imams for different things. Ali ibn al-Hasan gives safety to rulers, Muhammad ibn Ali and Jafar ibn Muhammad, they help with the hereafter, Moosa ibn Ali helps with security from Allaah, Hasan ibn Ali gives security on the day of judgement. Al-Kulayni in al-Kafi (1/409), "Chapter: The entire earth belongs to the imam", he narrates from Abu Abdullah that he said, "Do you not know that this world and the next life (both) belong to the imam? He distributes it wherever he wills and he gives it to whom he wills." Al-Khomeini said in Al-Hukoomah al-Islamiyyah (pg. 52), "Verily the Imam has a praiseworthy station, a special rank and universal caliphate which is given due to its wilayah by which they rule over all the molecules in the universe." Their imams were allegedly narrated saying “They are the covers of Allaah, the means between Him and His creation” and Al Majlisi narrated in his book a chapter “The people are not guided without the imams, and they are the means of worship between creatures and Allaah, and only those that enter Jannah are the ones who know them. See Bihaar al-Anwar (23/97) It is also narrated from al-Majlisi in Bihaar al-Anwar (29/94), "If you have a need for Allaah the most blessed most exalted, write it on a piece of paper set on the blessings of Allaah; and put it on a grave of the graves of the imams if you want, or bury it and seal it, or bake some clean clay and put the paper inside of it, and throw it in a running river, or a deep well, or a rill of water, because it indeed reaches the master peace be upon him, and he will suffice you in what you need aid in, himself." They said that Ali ibn al-Hasan provides safety from rulers and blowings of the devil, Muhammad ibn Ali and Ja'far ibn Muhammad are for asking for the Hereafter and give one hope for it, Moosa ibn Ja'far gives security, Ali ibn Moosa gives safety in the seas, Muhammad ibn Ali gives provisions and some others. See Bihaar al-Anwar (94/33)
@MushafMehdi1
@MushafMehdi1 Ай бұрын
@@Angelo-RulesThat is the satanic touhed i am seing there..... the cloth of hazrat yousuf a.s cured hazrat yaqoub a.s eyes so prophets and imams wont be able to help people with the will of allah ...Alas! The Lovers of the Progeny of Muhammad (pbuh) are grieved that their crying does not result in the loss of their sight! And by Allah! If we cry so much that the light of the eyes disappears, then Allah would restore sight to those eyes, for He promises thus in the Quran; Take this, my shirt, and cast it over the face of my father; he will be able to see. And bring me your family, all together. (Surah 12, Yusuf verse 93)..........the hadeeth referred to was narrated by Abu’l-Jawza’ Aws ibn ‘Abd-Allaah who said: The people of Madeenah were faced with a severe drought. They complained to ‘Aa'ishah who said: “Look at the grave of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and make an opening facing the sky so that there will be no barrier between him and the sky.” They did that, then it rained until the plants grew and the camels grew exceedingly fat, and it was called the year of the exceedingly fat animals. Narrated by al-Daarimi (1/56), no. 92, in the chapter: How Allaah honoured His Prophet after his death. Al-Daarimi said: Abu’l-Nu’maan told us, Sa’eed ibn Zayd told us, ‘Amr ibn Maalik al-Nakri told us, Abu’l-Jawza’ Aws ibn ‘Abd-Allaah said: … then he quoted the hadeeth.
@MushafMehdi1
@MushafMehdi1 Ай бұрын
@@Angelo-Rules extremist will definitely think that way denying the verse i have sent at first place
@MHunch12
@MHunch12 2 ай бұрын
A’udhubillah from Taqiyya, the most legendary cope from this charlatan, we know you ask imams directly and not mean for them to ask Allah, when they can’t even hear you.
@user-hi5xq7nx2y
@user-hi5xq7nx2y 2 ай бұрын
Very nice
@azikazikazik
@azikazikazik 2 ай бұрын
Do Shia also say “ya Jesus” ?
@DarwinBinAhmad
@DarwinBinAhmad 2 ай бұрын
They can, if they want, bcoz thats their belief.
@hassanhaidar204
@hassanhaidar204 2 ай бұрын
@@DarwinBinAhmad no its not.
@MohammedAlSharif2002
@MohammedAlSharif2002 2 ай бұрын
I see you have two copies of Ibn Taymiyyah’s اقتضاء الصراط المستقيم lol
@beauty_and_healthy_sports
@beauty_and_healthy_sports 11 күн бұрын
The Shia Rafidi have their own Iran Fabricated Quran (Shia Quran)
@amirulafiq4371
@amirulafiq4371 2 ай бұрын
I've researched comparitive religions, Judaism, and Christianity for so long and what I found is those who are most closest to true Monotheism or orthodox Islam are Hanbalis and Deobandis.
@MohammedAlSharif2002
@MohammedAlSharif2002 2 ай бұрын
Deobandis are Maturidi Jahmis
@amirulafiq4371
@amirulafiq4371 2 ай бұрын
@@MohammedAlSharif2002 Regardless they're of the most zealous when it comes to exposing heresies and what invalidates Tawheed.
@muslimresponse103
@muslimresponse103 2 ай бұрын
@@amirulafiq4371you need to keep studying and researching. Salafis are the best in this and most Hanbalis are Salafis. whereas deobandis need guidance but i agree they are zealous.
@mohammadsabihhasan2018
@mohammadsabihhasan2018 2 ай бұрын
Deobandis have innovations but although they have preserved knowledge in India. Also that's not fiqh but deviant group because of innovations. May ALLAH ﷻ guide them
@syedjaffer2125
@syedjaffer2125 2 ай бұрын
@@MohammedAlSharif2002 Don't be a Jahil, you super Salafi, Deobandi movement was a Rahma of Allah SWT on the subcontinent, do you know how hard they worked to eradicate Shirk and false saints here? Jahil
@boah2759
@boah2759 Ай бұрын
Guys why dont you guys just be in dhulfiqars live and talk with him, you know just you know prove yourself, but you wont its obvious
@sohrab4497
@sohrab4497 2 ай бұрын
Such Khurafat
@psychogamer4595
@psychogamer4595 2 ай бұрын
What i would like to say is that a 20 min response video to a 1hr or a 2hr long video is not doing justice upon this issue and I can almost say with a certainty that nobody watches Ammar's video first and then comes here....This is actually disappointing
@psychogamer4595
@psychogamer4595 2 ай бұрын
I would like to add this is the same channel that ran away from a debate with hasan allahyari 5-6 yrs ago so another negative point
@IbnAlahwaz
@IbnAlahwaz 2 ай бұрын
7:15
@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 2 ай бұрын
​@@psychogamer4595 Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him was concise. The Yari guy admitted the Quran is altered and dodged ebn Hussein, but more to the point are you a pagan who agrees with yari?
@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 21 күн бұрын
@@bompo328 Right bro.
@lalmeer9741
@lalmeer9741 Ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@mclarenfan6032
@mclarenfan6032 2 ай бұрын
This shia speaker really puts an emphasis on his "s" 😂 it sounds so weird...
@faizs9676
@faizs9676 2 ай бұрын
Ammar : Allah says Abraham A. S. is his friend ..... So there " can " be (auzubillah) more than one god ... Hence Immam are gods .... Hence " proved" 😂😂😂😂
@mohammadsabihhasan2018
@mohammadsabihhasan2018 2 ай бұрын
May ALLAH ﷻ guide them
@hassansabrah3139
@hassansabrah3139 2 ай бұрын
We are guided you are the lost ones. Read your books, it's all tainted. Go protect your nasty disgusting Umar and Abu Kharra.
@Hiro7445-
@Hiro7445- 2 ай бұрын
1:00 it's a good topic, but someone with tattoos has no say.
@whou2952
@whou2952 2 ай бұрын
Why don’t you call out your sunni brothers the asharis, who make up the majority of your religion on why they say ya rasul allah madad. Why always target the shia regarding this issue??? Seems to be very malicious and vile.
@syedabualhussain
@syedabualhussain 2 ай бұрын
Not ashari but maturidi, And only sufi barelvis among maturidi, not maturidi deobandi. And them doing it doesn't makes it permissible, Dua is ibadah, and whoever directs it towards anyone other than Allah is mushrik and disbeliever. Asking help from dead body is similar to asking from an idol, Both can't help themselves, how are they gonna help you?
@user-rt4hj7tj5p
@user-rt4hj7tj5p 2 ай бұрын
SUNNI is also from Zoroastrian AVESTAN religion. ' There is NO sunni in ISLAM.
@LadooCrew
@LadooCrew 2 ай бұрын
I am not a salafi or follower of the najdi dawah. I am a traditional Sunni Muslim ashari maturidi. Some clarifications. Hamza Yusuf has many strange opinions he is not a supreme authority Imam Abu hanifa denied tawassul by using words like " by the right of Muhammad" which means anyone does not have a right over Allah. Like one says Bi haqaay e Nabi. Tawassul is fine and we agree upon it. Difference is on istighatha some permitted it some said it's haram. Where the najdi dawah differ is they say it's shirk compared to mainstream ahlus sunnah. I will add Ammar is a Jahil he has not got a clue in regards to Sunni Aqeeda just like most Shias do not.
@Klotz237
@Klotz237 2 ай бұрын
Ashari / Maturidi are not Ahlul Sunnah. The companions weren’t anything from that, rather they followed Quran and Sunnah with the Understanding of the Salaf. So if u define ur aqeedah as something different „salafi“ meaning from the salaf then u cant claim to be a traditional muslim
@LadooCrew
@LadooCrew 2 ай бұрын
@@Klotz237 The vast majority of the ummah are ashari maturidis we dominated for 1000 years. All the conquests and victories of the Muslims after the sahabah period are by us. All the historians the Ilm Al rijal experts the tafasirs are by us. Our schools of Fiqh are via the salaf imam Abu hanifa Malik etc are the salaf. Our aqeeda is exactly that as taught by Quran sunnah salaf etc. we only adopted kalam when it became necessary in replying to mujassima and mutazila. We are the sawad al adham the great majority always have been ( even Al barni admitted this) . You are a product of the najdiya dawah fitna factory cousins of Isis. You are also followers of Al barny a clock maker no ijaza self taught you follow his methodology not the salaf. You are exactly as the hadith teaches us about najd " from there will come the horn of satan". The biggest of the fitnas that faces this ummah. We are ahlus sunnah you are najdiya. Ashaira maturidiya and atharis pure athari hanbalis are ahlus sunnah not the najdi dawah who the entire islamic world refutes!!! The audacity of you to try and take our identity. Al barni ibn wahabh and ibn taymiyah ain't the salaf pal.
@LadooCrew
@LadooCrew 2 ай бұрын
@@Klotz237 we are the mainstream Sunnis we follow the salaf you are najdiya you follow al barni not the salaf. We are the sawad al adham we produced the brightest stars and warriors of Islam and the struggles. You are just products of petrol dollars.
@azikazikazik
@azikazikazik 2 ай бұрын
Why would istigatha not be haram ?
@GuruShiya11
@GuruShiya11 2 ай бұрын
​@@LadooCrew😅ollow salaf , don't put your innovationns with the salaf man .
@arash313
@arash313 2 ай бұрын
Labbayk ya Hussein! Ya Ali madad!
@iMan-610
@iMan-610 2 ай бұрын
Labbayk ya Allah,Ya Allah madad
@FollowtheSunnah632
@FollowtheSunnah632 Ай бұрын
mushrik.
@arash313
@arash313 Ай бұрын
@@FollowtheSunnah632 If following our Prophet, Imam Ali and Ahlul Bayt is shirk, then, I am a huge mushrik!
@arash313
@arash313 2 ай бұрын
The difference between you and ammar is that he actually is reading from Sunni books. If you want to get a true understanding of brother ammar’s position and the position of us Shia go and watch ammar’s entire lecture because he is strictly reading from Sunni books. Be open minded and research your deen!
@user-rt4hj7tj5p
@user-rt4hj7tj5p 2 ай бұрын
There is NO sunni in Islam created by PERSIAN ZOROASTRIAN converst.
@Ferdi2Rare
@Ferdi2Rare 2 ай бұрын
reading from sunni books, which he cherry picks, doesnt know the context or meanings of and ignoring the hadiths which ali ra and the prophet peace be upon him talking good about the companions the shias reject.
@shazbangashkhan5505
@shazbangashkhan5505 2 ай бұрын
Joker shitwani
@s.a.a.s2527
@s.a.a.s2527 2 ай бұрын
Once again the response hasn't responded to the main points being made in his lecture. Secondly this responce is throwing the majority of Ahl-Sunnah under the bus as well. overall a couple decent points made but not points that properly tackle what was being said...not impressed
@FraisesDesBois
@FraisesDesBois 2 ай бұрын
Why is his response throwing the majority of ahlul sunnah under the bus ? (what point did he made that is contrary to the m.o.as's 'aqidah ?)
@WaqasAli-ct7ly
@WaqasAli-ct7ly 2 ай бұрын
do u agree with what the shia scholar said at the start of the video of asking from hussain directly?
@Idoloclast4
@Idoloclast4 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭 Keep crying
@cjamo65able
@cjamo65able 2 ай бұрын
Sigh. Details. Give us details. It seems every single Shia jumps that jumps in the comments on this channel & says 'cherry picked', 'not good enough', disappears like smoke when you press for the smallest of details.
@mohajsart123
@mohajsart123 2 ай бұрын
@@WaqasAli-ct7lyno shia agrees with him. That’s literally shirk. Sayed Ammar didn’t say to do this in his lecture. 90% of shias don’t follow what the sheikh said. This channel think that every single shia believe what the sheikh said. Before saying anything ignorant, just watch sayed Ammar’s lectures. You won’t regret it.
@nyeeunfa8487
@nyeeunfa8487 2 ай бұрын
The shias understanding n comprehensive r really damage, they can't differenciate which one is tawasul which one is shirk 😅😅😅
@mohajsart123
@mohajsart123 2 ай бұрын
You’re saying this while you didn’t watch sayed’s lectures. You click on this video with ignorance while you have no clue what sayed said. This channel took a clip of a sheikh saying to ask imam Hussein (as) directly instead of Allah which is shirk. Your brain dosen’t understand that the majority of Shias worship Allah (swt) only. We do intercession yes, but we don’t ask ahlulbayt to cure smth. I bet you didn’t watch sayed ammar’s lectures. You follow these people blindly. May Allah guide you.
@hassansabrah3139
@hassansabrah3139 2 ай бұрын
Most of them are the same, brainwashed Sunni... instead of them opening their eyes and being rational, which will allow to see true Islam and recognize what they have been taught is all lies and manipulation, they rather just skip and insult. It's killing them that many Sunni are becoming Shias.
@s.a.a.s2527
@s.a.a.s2527 2 ай бұрын
⁠Ok so, SD starts the video with a shia scholar saying ask Hussain directly, zero context, zero relevance to a video where you’re responding to Nakshwani. A pathetic attempt to make the guys making this video feel better abt themselves. Then again before getting to any sort of point he tried to downplay this whole issue by saying it’s not theological and that it’s just juqrisprudencial… well you are the downplaying whilst also making the point that shias commit Shirk the greatest sin in Islam… so how can it be such a ‘petty’ issue and then also be an issue that you decide to remove millions of Muslims from the fold of Islam because of… :/ bad point and he’s not even started his ‘response’ to any points yet. Then he randomly decides to bring wilaya into the conversation… that’s not the issue being spoken about here your just putting out other talking points to comfort yourself. This is actually a technique very similar to what the zionists love using nowadays called gish galloping. Then moves on to an actual response and says it’s not only ibn taymiyya that disallows tawassul, nakshwani didn’t say it was ONLY taymiyya but you decided to put those words in his mouth and then refute them yourself?? He say taymiyya is the only one always appearing when it comes to these arguments against tawassul not that he’s the only one making those arguments. This is coping and so far all of this is showing the weak backing of your arguments if you have to stoop to these tactics to convince yourself you are right. Next point… he spends time explainin points that have ijma within ahl Sunna because it’s not only knowledgeable sunnis watching but also Shias who don’t know of the ruling of ahl Sunna and Sunnis who also don’t know. The point about tawassul and the blind man he admits is a matter of dispute within ahl sunnah and it is agreed upon by some Sunnis that the is proof for tawassul and he is confused why nakshwani is being bringing up this point. Nakshwani is educating views not simply refuting specific points, he wants people to understand the scope understanding tawassul within ahl Sunna as it is often painted as a black and white issue by Sunni/salafis. Again playing random clips not from nakshwanis video, not sure what point this makes. It’s a discussion on instigatha and tawassul which requires a little thought but you would like to portray it as black and white to make shia seem like mushrik… here’s where Sunnis practicing these things get thrown under the bus… and again he’s not actually responding to a point here just making his own one. Ask imam Mahdi, nakshwani says to shias, SD brother takes offence and begins to offend the Mahdi… he is obviously not telling Sunnis to ask Imam Mahdi but as before making your own point and offending youself… Umar asking the prophets uncle as a form of tawassul… nakshwani is showing tawassul exists within Sunnism as he has been doing but you want to insist it is a waste of time to educate people. Nakshwani is bridging the gap between Sunni and Shia and how the view tawassul showing the understandings aren’t worlds apart. Then he makes a fair point that how can the Mahdi hear all these requests. Fine obviously with Allahs will BUT this is an actual response this time… he goes on to call this practice paganism… fine it’s your viewpoint… a view that also again throws many many Sunnis under the bus as they do istigatha of people like Rusulallah who have indeed died a physical death. Then actually agrees with nakshwanj that there is ijma around Shafa’a and that tawassul is variable then regarding istigstha he playing a clip of a different video with a different Shia sheikh… why this contributes to a responce against nakshwani I don’t know UNLESS there is nothing you can say as nakshwanis point stands-> tawassul and the other terms discussed are not black and white even within Sunnism which weirdly enough you managed to aggressively agree with through the entire video. I apologise for any lack of details brother
@The1991AHK
@The1991AHK 2 ай бұрын
Seems like you are confusing all the points, honestly. What he is saying is pretty plain and simple. There is ijma amongst Sunnis on different types of Tawassul. Tawassul via Allah's divine names, one's righteous actions, asking others to make dua etc. These are agreed upon matters. The difference of opinion on tawassul is regarding asking Allah by the status of one of Allah's beloved. This is an issue of fiqh that he is referring to amongst the sunnis. And there is general tolerance on this particular fiqhi difference amongst all. The hadith of the blind man coming from Uthman Bin Hunayf (RA) falls under this category. Regarding Ibn Tamiyyah, it was quite clear that Ammar is saying that the issue of one type of Tawassul (through the status of a beloved of Allah) comes only from him and his followers. The Sheikh just makes a point that the difference of opinion regarding the fiqhi difference doesn't just come from Ibn Tamiyyah but from the earlier generations going back to Imam Abu Hanifa (RH). So till now, all the points made are understood by all. You say that Ammar is trying to educate and bridge gaps, not sure about that intent tbh looking at the sort of videos he's been doing throughout Ramadan. Regarding Shafa'a of the Prophet (peace be upon him) on the day of judgement, that again is something that is agreed upon. Finally comes the point which is mainly the concern. It is Istighatha. Ammar is known to have said that directly calling upon the Prophets and Imams (other than the last imam) shouldn't be done. On the other hand, I know for a fact that majority of the Shia do believe in doing Istighatha directly asking for their needs to the Prophet (peace be upon him) and the Imams (peace be upon them all). I've personally witnessed this countless number of times and the rest of the clips that are shown from other Shiah scholars are to show that they are not from the same opinion to even Ammar in this case since Ammar limits this to the 12th Imam whereas a vast majority don't put such a limit. It's quite plain and simple. Calling upon for help in the unseen/ghaib is only reserved for Allah and the Quran is filled with this. The opposite is totally missing in the Quran and I invite you to present your evidence from the Quran first and foremost. Lastly, just because there are sunni sects who do the same in this matter as the shia doesnt make a practice correct. Its not throwing anyone under the bus. It's simply following what the Quran is saying and anyone, regardless of the group they associate themselves with, going against this is simply wrong. Other clips have to be brought in in order to give an overall idea of the issue and its different aspects. It's no gish galloping tbh. Finally, just to summarise all this. - Some types of Tawassul have ijma. More details can be given. - there is difference of opinion on one type (asking Allah through the status of one of His beloved). - Shafa'a on qiyama is agreed upon - Istighatha clearly is not present in the Quran and the Sunnah and is the one that is considered Shirk. Ammar tries to limit istigatha whereas general Shia population doesn't. May Allah guide us all.
@IbnAlahwaz
@IbnAlahwaz 2 ай бұрын
@@The1991AHK❤
@ziarehman3387
@ziarehman3387 2 ай бұрын
Theology of slafiyyah not ahle sunnah you mean
@muslimresponse103
@muslimresponse103 2 ай бұрын
salafiyah is ahlul sunnah.
@noface9375
@noface9375 2 ай бұрын
Imagine a majoosi telling us who and what ahlu sunnah are 😂
@ali.al.farisi
@ali.al.farisi 2 ай бұрын
Ustadh anwar 🫡
@yastheaustralian8590
@yastheaustralian8590 2 ай бұрын
Sheikh *
@theimdad1
@theimdad1 2 ай бұрын
You guys are more interested to make fun of other point of view instead of discussion.
@FraisesDesBois
@FraisesDesBois 2 ай бұрын
What is the point of discussion if his points (nakshwani) was already debunked ?
@WaqasAli-ct7ly
@WaqasAli-ct7ly 2 ай бұрын
do u comment the same thing under nakshawanis videos? cus he does it much more
@cjamo65able
@cjamo65able 2 ай бұрын
Details?
@mohajsart123
@mohajsart123 2 ай бұрын
Exactly, these brainwashed people won’t understand that a 17 min video can’t debunk an hour long vid. I bet they didn’t even watch the lectures. Even if they did it won’t change the fact that they will deny their own sahih ahadiths.
@cjamo65able
@cjamo65able 2 ай бұрын
@mohajsart123 give us an example?
@theimdad1
@theimdad1 2 ай бұрын
When Shia shows evidence, some sunni always says it is fabricated!
@muslimresponse103
@muslimresponse103 2 ай бұрын
and you shias always say you have evidence when you dont!
@PennyGrove_
@PennyGrove_ 2 ай бұрын
@theimdad1 - and the rafidah have no textual foundation for their beliefs.
@MafroomMan
@MafroomMan 2 ай бұрын
Maybe because it is 🤷
@Idoloclast4
@Idoloclast4 2 ай бұрын
Evidence 😮? You mean those narrations which were transmitted through a horse?😢😢 _im seriously asking Allah, may Allah Subhan wa taala guide you and all ignorants Aamen ya rabb
@duckyisdaddymaterial6524
@duckyisdaddymaterial6524 2 ай бұрын
Buddy its because it is for example the whole situation where umar kills Fatima There’s not even a single authentic narration do u want us to just play along say it it Sahih when it’s clearly not it’s like me saying hey buddy I have this random Hadith which is fabricated but no I still want u to accept it
@theimdad1
@theimdad1 2 ай бұрын
I think Ammar has more logical point of view that makes sense.
@PennyGrove_
@PennyGrove_ 2 ай бұрын
@theimdad1 - Think some more.
@muslimresponse103
@muslimresponse103 2 ай бұрын
lol he is making it up as he goes along.
@Klotz237
@Klotz237 2 ай бұрын
I think I am a giant green dinosaur
@azikazikazik
@azikazikazik 2 ай бұрын
Rest bro your comments get more desperate one by one
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