Restoration of rare Apple IIc Plus

[@sloebig]

These aren’t just restoration videos. I watch random restoration videos when I’m bored. I watch YOUR restoration videos when I want to learn about the history of a computer, how it works, and how I can keep my vintage equipment running forever. Your channel is an endless spiral of knowledge and while I love EVERY video you make, something about your restoration videos makes them stand out from all the rest. I’d never tell you how to run you channel, but know that your restorations are top-tier for a multitude of reasons and many people wish to continue seeing your passion.

[@sireuchre]

What I notice is the clear focus on the particular failures of the restored device, and when they are common ones, the little explanations of that. Otherwise it would just be just another montage of restoring a device, with 'replaced failed ejector gear' being more of a footnote at best.

[@vaughn1804]

💯👍

[@LigmaHaver-g9q]

I specifically do watch 8 bit guy when I’m bored because he’ll make me not bored and more versed in computers I’ll never lay a finger on irl

[@brusspup]

The restoration videos of yours are my favorite. There is an authenticity and charm about them that no one else on youtube comes even close to.

[@Kat21]

oh hi brusspup, watched your illusions videos years ago

[@Ronaldo-eu1nz]

Finally its here. YES kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGaYiIGwfrd8i68

[@WolfgangMahringer]

@1MadJack1 Its a common spam. Report him.

[@glujaz]

I actually like them because they show the internals, and are additionned with explanation which helps to understand how all this works. I take the cleaning videos as his pretext to show and explain the internals ! :)

[@Mr_Mooo]

I think RMC also does a great job with restorations as well. The rest are all hacks!

[@mitchboynunn]

Please don’t let all these other KZbin channels influence your restoration videos. They are my favorite videos you make other then the history of videos. At the end of the day no one is the 8 bit guy but you.

[@milk-it]

Well said. Just keep doing what you enjoy doing and uploading it for us :-).

[@PcVgLife]

Atleast do restore videos on new models he hasn't done before. I've used a few as reference for my own restores.

[@revine9243]

Most of the other restoration channels don’t have what 8-Bit has. Personality. He’s just such a fun guy who has a great personality that makes me want to see more content.

[@kelvin1316]

The thing with an "arm's race" is to just ignore and do your own thing. Adrian's digital Basement does exactly that with his restorations.

[@emmettturner9452]

Exactly. Also, the fake channels only prove there is a market for the real thing. If, in response, everyone stopped doing it for real then all we’d have left are fakes!

[@buserror1]

Watching David restore old computers is like watching Bob Ross paint. There's a certain Zen to it...It's oddly comforting to see another person treat something you care about with care and respect.

[@raven4k998]

I see these videos and wonder what will he do next make a copy of the apple 2 c plus🤣🤣🤣

[@MikehMike01]

In both cases they’re not trying to impress you and it’s nice

[@mattsparks3546]

Your authenticity, professionalism, and very evident passion for these older computers, (after all, you have developed several games for these older platforms, simply because you like them) is what makes *your* restoration videos incomparable to other restoration videos, there's a feel to your videos that other creators cannot ever replicate. In short, your videos could never compete with other restoration videos, don't let it get to your head.

[@Jrose11]

Honestly, my favourite are the restoration videos. The fact is, you do a great job not only explaining what's going on, but also the significance. Most other videos either go into way too much detail for people like myself, or don't explain enough what they are testing/why they are doing what they are. I do understand the idea of them getting repetitive though, at some point how many bad ROM chips/blown capacitors can we see replaced. Still they are very relaxing and educational, so I'm a little sad we won't be seeing as many going forward.

[@davidsiemers196]

Jrose, this isn't Pokémon KZbin, what'cha doin' here? In all seriousness, I totally agree. There's something so wonderful about how David does his restoration videos. They're approachable, relaxing, and it's refreshing to have a KZbinr who isn't playing into the oneupmanship that many others in the restoration space are unfortunately starting to partake in.

[@allentoyokawa9068]

favorite**

[@sanjicook08]

Hey Jrose, how's it going?

[@SockyNoob]

Holy shit, Jrose watches retro tech channels?

[@mbogucki1]

Personally, I think restorations, where there are MAJOR issues to solve, are the best ones. Watching you problem solve in an honest manner, sometimes leading to dead ends, is entertaining and informative.

[@adriansdigitalbasement]

Two callouts in one video! Thanks. It’s nice to see one of these looking so nice again. Also, seaking of your other IIc, I noticed that one of my IIc machines that I retrobrighted a while back has also started to yellow again. Funny as I have stuff I did longer ago that hasn’t began to re-yellow. As all can imagine, there is no sunlight down in the Digital Basement, so it’s not that.

[@The8BitGuy]

Well, to be fair. Your videos were a great help in solving both issues!

[@TheSulross]

Adrian, you and David should do a live chat session together - like the one you did with Bil Hurd - just rap about all things retro computing and inside baseball youtube content creating

[@xp7575]

@@The8BitGuy disappointed that you didn't say the name of his channel, the 8-bit KZbin Poop channel could have made excellent use of you saying the word basement

[@tarstarkusz]

But what are the downsides to retrobrighting? I've never done it because I got used to it long before retrobrighting became widely known and, more importantly, I have heard that they are never really the right color again and that it will reverse and yellow again. But this is ancient plastic that is brittle and I have to wonder what the retrobrighting, basically dipping it in bleach is doing to the plastic besides changing its color. Is the plastic leaching anything during the process? Has anyone ever done chemical testing on the water/bleach after the process is done (I don't mean for getting rid of the water. I mean is it changing the plastic)? Are there chemical changes in the plastic? Is it still fire resistant?

[@SpearM3064]

@Adrian's Digital Basement It's not just UV light that can cause the reaction, it's heat. How warm is it down in the basement? And contrary to what everyone probably thinks, it's not the bromine that causes the yellowing. If the BFRs degraded into a bromide or bromate salt, then they would simply dissolve in water and the plastic would not stay yellowed. Yet that doesn’t happen. Another suggestion is that it degrades into bromine, which would also not keep the plastic yellow. Bromine is a volatile liquid and evaporates very quickly. It is also one of the more pungent smells that you could experience and even little amounts linger. It doesn’t cause the plastic to yellow. The yellowing is entirely caused by the degradation of the ABS plastic.

[@henryatkinson1479]

I really enjoy the restorations. They're always enjoyable. No 2 computers lived the same life, and restoring them tells their story. Your VIC-20 is a prime example of that.

[@abvgztooo]

Your restorations are top notch, I even rewatch the old ones quite often.

[@steventyler6441]

Over and over.

[@StariusPrime]

By the way, the keys didn’t need retrobryting because they’re PBT and the space bar did because it’s ABS. Pretty common practice in mechanical keyboards.

[@jaysoncowan5763]

They should have made the whole computer from PBT, but i love the old IBM metal cases. Those will never need a retrobrighting.

[@StariusPrime]

@@jaysoncowan5763 I think they generally don’t cast larger parts out of PBT because you risk warping as the plastic cools. ABS is better at that, but the downside is that it yellows over time.

[@daemonspudguy]

@@StariusPrime that's why. As far as I know, IBM was one of the only companies who made PBT spacebars, and Unicomp continues that tradition. No one else seemed to do it reliably.

[@naysmith5272]

cool to know. Its interesting the other computer has yellowed again.

[@dh2032]

@@jaysoncowan5763 rust :-(

[@Boojakascha]

All key caps but space are made of PBT. Space is made of ABS. PBT tends to move when curing, so it's hard to make long parts. The switches are Alps SKCM Orange and are among the best ever made =)

[@Jootunn]

Praise be to SKCM.

[@dc9662]

I have one with Amber Alps, which sound and feel fantastic.

[@Ronaldo-eu1nz]

Finally its here. YES kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGaYiIGwfrd8i68

[@sean640]

And the little metal piece is a stabilizer !

[@CommodoreFan64]

I have an Zenith Datasystems 286e Supersport laptop with Alps SKCM Baby Blue switches I personally think have a better key feel, but Orange is not bad either. 👍I wish more laptops/all in one computers these days would come with these kinds of awesome switches at least as an extra option.

[@mkonji8522]

Hey David, I wanted to comment on the clear coat experiment you mentioned. I actually have had great success with this method *however* , only with a specific type of clear coat used for hobby plastics. Initially around 2012 I tried rustoleum clear and krylon clear after doing (what was eventually called) retrobrighting but both of those unfortunately yellowed again over about a 3 year period. After that didn't work I spoke to a friend I grew up with in Japan that does a lot of model building and he suggested *Mr. Super Clear - UV Cut* and I have to say It is the *BEST* at preventing these devices from yellowing after retrobrighting. I've used it on every device I've done since (at least 20 or so different systems and many peripherals) and after about 8-9 years none of it has even begun to yellow. My friend who let me in on the secret has Gundam figures that are known to yellow that he built in the 90's that still have not yellowed. He sold me by sending me an image comparison of new in box ones from 94/95 to the ones he built with the uv clear spray and man is it night and day, white vs golden brown. Process- Please thoroughly scuff up the plastic prior to painting with a red scotchbrite to ensure that the paint bites to the plastic evenly (be sure to get the vents with a flathead and the scotchbrite). When painting do two very very light coats initially and wait about 20 minutes in-between each coat so they can gas out (very important). After apply a third medium thick coat then wait 2 hours to gas out and a finally apply a forth and final medium thickness for matte paint or if using gloss use a heavy thickness coat and wait 24-48 hours to handle to yield best results. Here's the paint Matte- www.hobbylinc.com/gunze-sangyo-mr-super-clear-uv-cut-matt-spray-polycarbonate-hobby-and-model-paint-b523 Gloss- www.hobbylinc.com/htm/guz/guzb522.htm Thank me later ; )

[@The8BitGuy]

Thanks, I'll look into this.

[@watcherzero5256]

@@The8BitGuy Yes be careful what you use, many clear coats that 'protect against UV' will themselves yellow for the same reason as the plastic.

[@SquirreliciousMe]

The restoration videos are great - it's not about how often you've done it, it's about seeing how you're bringing an old computer back to life - sometimes not working at all, sometimes working but in poor quality so we can see how it looked originally and also how you're keeping computing history alive. I wouldn't worry about any of the competitive nonsense - it doesn't matter what someone else is doing, you've always been authentic and people know it.

[@misterPSYCHOPATH3001]

The restoration, documentary of older hardware and learning how older software works are the types of videos i normally watch when i feel bored or feeling curious, keep up the good work!

[@jeremiefaucher-goulet3365]

Nobody makes restoration videos like you do. Please don't stop doing them, they are my favorites!! While I like everything you do, it's still my favorite thing. I was waiting until the end of this video to say "Thank you for finally putting up another restoration video" and then you drop that bomb on us of being weary about them. Damn... If you feel weary, I understand why you may not be so keen on doing them. And obviously, you should only do what you want to do. If anything, don't let other youtubers influence you. Just do your thing. It never was a competition to me.

[@IG88IGLOO.]

I really like your restoration videos. It offers up an oportunity to learn a bit about the history of the computer and the innards. I think its interesting to know about what has failed over the years and you do a great job showing that and fixing it especially compared to some that might fix electronics for a quick buck or weird asmr.

[@ronsku57]

SAME

[@Leofwine]

Yes!

[@Ronaldo-eu1nz]

Finally its here. YES kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGaYiIGwfrd8i68

[@FrecciaBensino224]

Me tooooo

[@nickwallette6201]

I have used the restoration videos as a reference to what the inside should look like, if I’m doing repairs or comparing what I got when I acquired something new.

[@misterkumquat7911]

Restoration videos, no matter how simple, are my favorite videos of yours. I appreciate this one!

[@Tall_Order]

I'm one of those people who enjoys watching you restore things. I'm subscribed to a number of people who do it, with various things, rather it's computers, radios and TVs, pocket lighters from the 1940s, it's fun to watch the process making something old and rusty / yellowed / dirty resemble what it once looked like.

[@zenithseeker7]

Alps SKCM "Orange" - nice! The other keys were most likely PBT double-shots, because of the vintage, and those don't yellow after UV exposure. Space bars, then and now, are often made from ABS due to its cooling properties.

[@ExplosiveAction]

Honestly I love watching the restoration videos. There is always something new each time, like the electronic eject mechanism in this one. Sure the retrobrite part is the same each time but restoring the mechanics is always fun to watch.

[@shootytheturtle]

I enjoy the restoration process: it is always satisfying to see something old that was once an exciting new purchase and that has suffered neglect and abuse being restored to almost brand new condition. Please continue to include this process in your future videos whenever it is merited. Thanks!

[@KOrgan0414]

You DON'T need to defend yourself for using Petscii Robots as a demo floppy!! If anything, you deserve to plug your hard work a little! Wonderful job, David!

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Be cool if there was an Android version.

[@Brfff]

Like in the "olden days" when running MS Flight Sim was one test of "IBM compatibility" ... these days we use PETSCII Robots to verify retro computer functionality ;) /Brett

[@Ronaldo-eu1nz]

Finally its here. YES kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGaYiIGwfrd8i68

[@jaydylantyler]

There’s been more than a ‘little’ plugging of the game! The channel felt like QVC for a long time. It’s so nice to get back to some real content now.

[@Morgan_Sandoval]

​@@jaydylantyler You sound as boring and entitled as you look, mister linkdin profile pic.

[@TechDeals]

David, please don’t stop…. I love watching your restore videos, I watch them all several times. Your pacing and how you show things is lovely,

[@therealScopolamine]

Rare to find people like David who don’t shit out low quality videos everyday with the intention of revenue. He takes his time and uploads infrequently to focus on quality over quantity. Love it.

[@BachiloDmitry]

no no no no, even if you will make restoration videos of the same computer 100 times, I'll still watch! Please never stop!

[@nneeerrrd]

лапоть 🇷🇺💩 вернись нах запарєбрік

[@robertsherman7978]

Amen!😀👍🐕

[@detrage5483]

Nah.

[@RengaBeats]

its funny.. I don't even watch these to learn how to do this stuff.. It just relaxes me to watch it!!

[@martinwashington3152]

I 100x thumbs-up this comment!

[@tjaldfeen]

Don't worry about the repetitiveness of restoration videos. It's like watching Bob Ross do a painting. I don't know how many happy little trees I've seen that man paint, but I'd gladly see it again. The process, and your thoughts and commentary, it's like having an older brother with a neat hobby that you love to get a glimpse of. Whenever you release a restoration video, I'll for sure be there to see it! :-)

[@jmkeller]

Well said and a great comparison with Ross. It really is therapy for me at the end of a long day.

[@robertsherman7978]

That is a PERFECT analogy!!😀👍🐕

[@dark0hannibal]

Those who are in the modeling hobby can tell you that there are varnishes for plastic that protect from UV light and contact with oxygen from the environment. They are also extremely easy to remove using alcohol and rubbing if you don't like the finish. Some products that I recommend are the MR. SUPER CLEAR UV CUT and MR. SUPER CLEAR.

[@rudeskalamander]

WHY ARE YOU YELLING

[@charliemartin-k7m]

@@rudeskalamander I don't think UV does anything to these I had a super nintendo that turned yellow and it was in a box in a dark room with no UV light and it still turned yellow I just think the Yellow happens from time.

[@rudeskalamander]

@@charliemartin-k7m why did you ping me lol? I was just commenting on the fact that the product names listed by op were both all caps

[@JayCAlan]

I love the restoration videos! There is just something absolutely comforting about your process of tearing down, cleaning, and re-assembling. I just love seeing them cleaned and restored. I think it's the same reason I like the Hoarders shows, watching ickiness become clean somehow makes me feel better about the world or something. Keep it up, please! I promise to watch every one.

[@ZachryMedearis]

Why would anyone get mad at you testing your own game on the device? You made a freaking game (more than one) and you should be proud of it.

[@vinnycordeiro]

Spacebars usually are made of ABS, while the other keycaps are made out of PBT. PBT doesn't yellow with age but has the tendency to easily warp immediately after injection molding, so manufacturers usually only made the smaller keycaps using this material, using ABS on the spacebars simply because it's easier. And those are salmon ALPS key switches, if I'm not mistaken (it has been years since I was into custom mechanical keyboards). You can only remove the metal plate by desoldering all the switches.

[@AtariBorn]

Interesting tidbit. Thanks.

[@EvergreenTheTree]

I believe those are ALPS SKCM Orange key switches (Deskthority's article on the Apple IIc series of computers confirms this), which are the SKCM variant of tactile switches.

[@TommyFenstermacher5150]

@@EvergreenTheTree Yeah, those are orange Alps. Salmon Alps were their successor.

[@ToumalRakesh]

I enjoy the restauration videos. I don't care if they're "less fancy" than what other youtubers produce, and it's been fun to watch you learn and grow over time. I'm glad this channel has a little bit of everything, and not just one type of content.

[@PluckyD]

Count me in the pro-restoration videos camp. It's sort of like the first step in introducing a newly covered PC IMO. I would also say you do them quite well to begin with. I'll be watching your content regardless, but just wanted to say I've been watching since "How oldschool graphics worked pt. 1" and still love the resto videos too. :)

[@ShaunDreclin]

Hey I think that's how I found this channel too! It was that or the one on sound, don't remember now

[@Collinsfamilylights]

Don't let other KZbin ass hats change what you do I enjoy watching your restoration videos thats what got me into watching your channel.

[@ericbuell3701]

Would literally watch you restore the same exact PC 1000 times. It's not about the specific brand or model. It's about the care and passion you display for each one. I've been watching you for a really long time and your drive to bring old hardware back to life to be remembered properly hasn't ever changed.

[@cheezitupp]

Love restorations though, definitely have re-watched your other restorations. Your videos aren’t fake and you always do the best you can. I enjoy learning alongside when you find out you can’t use a certain retrobrite technique or when you learn certain chemicals don’t work. I love the experimental process because your videos are very down to earth and real. Love your videos, keep it up!

[@elduderino1287]

I LOVE your restoration videos, I neverget tired of watching them. Forget what other people are doing, keep up the great work.

[@dressupgeekout]

I can't believe that some people wouldn't trust the NES restoration was real! Those must be the same people who couldn't believe you wrote Tetris in BASIC in a few hours that one time

[@dave4shmups]

I agree with you about not getting involved in any kind of retro computer restoration competition on KZbin. You always do a fantastic job and your videos are a blessing to watch!

[@Cr0ssUP]

Your restoration videos are the main reason why i subscribed to your channel. Most retrobrite restorations i've seen dont have the same level of passion and love for these PC's like you do. Your care and attention to detail really shines but most importantly these videos are extremely relaxing with chill vibes. I hope this comment encourages you.

[@andrasbradacs6016]

I think you just can’t do bad videos no matter what topic you choose. And I think the retrocomputer repair community can thank you so much because of the exploration of retrobrighting process. Keep up the good work, I will watching your videos! 😊

[@w2ed]

I wouldn’t worry about “competition” with your restoration videos - many of the ones I see offer little to no commentary about their experiences, the hardware involved or what they are doing, whereas yours (and a few others I like) offer those insights. I would rather watch one of yours because of that. Keep doing what you do.

[@detrage5483]

Same shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

[@w2ed]

@@detrage5483, if you think he's just repeating himself, if you don't like what he does, watch something else. He gets enough statistics that, if it really is a problem, it will show in his viewership and - regardless of what you and I say - he can choose what to do about it. I voiced my comment because of one thing that bothers me, when creator's come on their videos complaining about a type of video and then defending himself for what he does. HE DOESN'T NEED TO DO THAT - what he does compared to the other repair and restoration videos I usually also watch is he puts himself, his home and his stories into the equation. I have a better understand of why he retrobrites (not sure if spelled correctly) and does what he does better than I do other creator's, and when I get the money to tackle projects like these, I'll have that to reference. He does enough to make his videos stand out that he doesn't need to cut those type of videos back to avoid being competition or being repetitive. Sometimes letting someone know their positives can help rest concerns or understand how they can improve what they are uncomfortable with.

[@alpzerlaken]

Most people creating video the most modern way possible while David do it using the 80s 90s style which is my prefer

[@GenericJeebus]

Honestly while I do love pretty much every video off this channel, the documentaries, the unboxing of donations, I especially loved the studio and original dream desk builds too, I think the restorations have always been my favorite as well, there's a particular style to the explanations on troubleshooting, and the methods to solving each problem that I've always really enjoyed since I started watching back in 2015 or 16 or so. It got me into working at restoring old tech I've either found through work or storage from family, and I'd always found them extremely helpful and entertaining.

[@markyoung01maccom]

I’ve been a subscriber for years. And I will echo many of the other comments here. Your restoration videos are so much more than that. The original Apple IIc was my first apple computer and some near 30 years later I have a Mac Pro and M1 Max MBP, have had almost a machine from every single epoch. So I appreciate these videos can get repetitive, though you content is way more important and valuable than the other restoration videos out there. Keep up the great work. All the best.

[@paincreatesfame]

Echoing a lot of the other comments here but I love watching the restoration videos! It's always so satisfying seeing the backstories behind these machines and watching them being restored to their former beauty. I never grew up with most of these things so it's also just cool to see what came before my lifetime and how things have aged after so many years.

[@lis6502]

13:36 as much as you gonna do it :) There's a difference between "another restoration video" and 8-Bit Guy's restoration video :) Your videos were at the very start of series somewhat educational slash entertaining, nowadays there isn't much to be told (disassemble, gather dirt and do retrobrite), yet it's still very satisfying to watch. So as long as pure entertainment and idea of saving these artifacts from scrapyard are concerned, you should keep posting ^^

[@Vaskomyr]

Just love seeing the restoration giving what ever you're working on new life. Shouldn't worry about other channels or people making ridiculous claims that you fake it. I've seen those ones and they are terrible especially when it's a newer item that is obviously intentionally damaged just so they can make a video. Just keep doing what you do and know we appreciate you and what you bring.

[@bobris]

You say "don't get mad" but I don't think you have anything to apologize for. Great video, thanks for sharing.

[@lis6502]

David obviously takes care about what others are saying and there were some comments on him sticking his game whereever possible ;). I think that he might as well print posters of PR and Planet X3 making them as a background of all upcoming videos because there defienetely IS something to be proud of.

[@tianshi8453]

The way you do your restoration videos is exactly what (almost) everyone of your fans wants to see. You don't have to worry for the "competition" (what competition? *g*). Just do them when you want/need to and how you want them to be. It will be just fine!

[@npenplz]

There's a bunch of fake restoration videos that go around, but I've only seen them for game consoles and such. They are annoying though because they clog any searches for good restoration videos, which pushes these ones to the bottom.

[@timmoen1083]

I will never tire of 8-bit showing us the weather in Kennedale and then running out to his driveway for some top quality retro Brite. Also, I know nothing about computers. I am here for David Murray. I know I’m not the only one.

[@mrb5217]

David, to get those Alps keyswitches out, you'd need to desolder them all, then the PCB will come off the back and then the switches will snap out through the front of the plate.

[@beeftacosss]

Happy to see more restorations, honestly some of the best content here, keep it up!

[@glitchedmac]

This is the only Apple // I've ever personally owned and still have! I've done so much to keep it preserved and functional. I absolutely love watching this beautiful machine get the love here :D

[@pkmaronic]

As someone that just bought an Apple 2c with the monitor and the printer, I find the restoration videos extremely helpful, and informative since you give extra information on them!

[@yas1945]

I really enjoyed this. When I was a kid I treasured my IIc far too much to "risk" open it up, unlike so many other electronic devices. Only many years later did I start tinkering with and re-assembling hardware. Thanks very much!

[@wysiwygscomputerrepository4905]

David! Love these restorations, but something stood out to me about this one that could've been improved, if just slightly! The Apple logo on these machines, at least from my experience with most other Apple products, usually has a small hole in the back side of the logo on the underside of the plastic. This is so that it can be removed and changed if needed, but also really helps when it comes to whitening these plastics, as the logo often times (in your case not *too* bad) will bleach along with the plastic!

[@Octamed]

I noticed too. It's definitely lighter. Probably worth covering with paper tape or clear coating just the logo (the paint is VERY flimsy as I found out when cleaning mine)

[@RudeFoxALTON]

Personally I love the restoration videos, especially when there's some kind of technical problem where you do hardware diagnosis. It's like a puzzle/mystery but more fun since I dont have do the work to solve it lol.

[@EndOfForever]

It's a good day when an 8 bit guy restoration video is uploaded

[@jarede3724]

I know what you're saying about restorations, but it's satisfying and relaxing, and it makes people feel good that something is getting attention and TLC.

[@keithjohnston2863]

I love watching your restoration videos David, you have such a love for these vintage machines and it really shows in how you take care of them! What a neat collection and fun to play around with.

[@TheRogueMaverick]

SOOO worth supporting you on Patreon! You are, without hesitation, my absolute favourite KZbinr! I remember discovering you in late 2016 and one of the first videos I watched was the one on early digital cameras like the Sony Mavica. It’s been fun watching you grow as a content creator! I joined when you were somewhere in the 400k subscriber range and now, at the time of writing, you’re at 1.38 MILLION! Keep up the amazing work! I’m sticking around for as long as KZbin exists!

[@B3Band]

I'm genuinely curious what your feed looks like then lol

[@HisVirusness]

@@B3Band Same. Anyone who has The 8-Bit Guy in their feed is obviously a person of culture.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Good for you.

[@TheRogueMaverick]

@@B3Band - It really depends on how many videos I’ve rewatched. But I have had many videos come up in my feed before! What really drew me to the channel was and still is his impeccable ability to be technical and complex while making it more friendly to understand! I’m a tech-minded person and I still can get hopelessly confused by some topics. One example of The 8-Bit Guy helping me was when I was watching some “Behind The Code” videos from Displaced Gamers. Thanks to 8BG’s video on Assembly/Machine Language, I was able to understand the videos a little better with the coding language they used. I’m familiar with some coding, particularly in BASIC, but I’m still very much a newbie.

[@discingaround]

Your restoration videos are my favorite. Fantastic job!

[@Markimark151]

As much I love vintage Apple computers, I hated their motorized floppy drives since they lack a manual eject button and they often get stuck! Our school’s Macintosh classics had their disks stuck because of the design flaw.

[@finkelmana]

Since so many of us like the restoration videos, keep making them. If people dont want to see those videos, they dont have to watch them.

[@tomcarter4441]

I love your restoration videos! Not so much the super dirty/oily ones, but the general wear and tear videos which show some of your creative research and impromptu solutions and repairs to make these older machines come back to life. Also, there is something cathartic about watching something so "old and useless" be cleaned up and shown in it's former glory. So much history and passion to even make these machines to begin with! Very informative videos, I have enjoyed all of them so far. Keep it up!

[@0fuxTaken]

I enjoy the restoration videos. They certainly hit the "oddly satisfying" spot. I don't watch any other channels for such content.

[@Helmutlozzi]

I love your restoration vids! Even if they might seem "sameish" the pleasure is just as much from seeing the hardware restored to proper glory again. Thanks!

[@McTroyd]

I was blown away the first time I saw one of those 3.5" drives eject a disk itself (on a IIGS). Must have cycled that drive dozens of times before I got bored. Haven't seen the broken gear phenomena yet, but good to know to look for it! 👍️

[@lucasrem]

My original Macintosh did that, this apple II model is newer than that, they used the same mechanisms. for me it was normal, drives that did not do that were old crap drives, LOL

[@HypherNet]

I will never be mad at you showing off your own software. Or charging an amount so you can pay yourself fairly. You're insanely talented and probably a little too humble for your own good. Great work, as always. The iic was my first computer, and it takes me back to a lot of great memories with my late stepmother who wrote games for small children for the early apple computers.

[@RedGr33nBlue]

got busy with work so didn't have time to watch alot of 8 bit guy but it was a blessing in disguise because it's so good to binge watch these, always a blast to watch. keep up the great work, love these restoration videos

[@mini-_]

The restorations - and repair - videos are just about my favorite on your channel! I don't care much for the "competition" around the restorations, with finding the filthiest computer, but I just like seeing someone restore a computer to its former glory with methods attainable to any home user.

[@PerfectPilot]

I LOVE these restoration videos! I can’t wait to watch

[@HoldandModify]

You inspired me to create my channel and I’m so happy to see a “classic” 8BG video like this!! I remember seeing this computer in the film 2010. He was using it on the beach with a “monitor.” Blew my mind. But yes, it was Hollywood magic.

[@kittyslayur]

Love ur vids bud keep it up

[@gnarlin4964]

It doesn't matter how repetitive restorations are. The only thing that matters is that each is a new retro computer you've saved. Would saving yet another suffering abandoned pet be too repetitive? I'm aware that this is hyperbole, but I think the point works. Old computers will quickly become rarer and rarer so each one that is saved and preserved today will become that much more important in a few decades or even centuries. It's not about competition, it's about preservation and there is just something soothing about seeing something neglected getting the love and care it needs from a competent restorer. Please keep making restoration videos. They are my favourite.

[@AmyraCarter]

2:52 Said Staples: "That was easy." 🤣 6:30 Ouch. There's no supergluing that back together (not that I recommend it for tiny parts like these). ... I actually enjoy watching these; I may never attempt any of them but it's always interesting, and sometimes there are really funny moments, like the discovery of the disk drive just simply being unplugged, or that one time you discovered a massive amount of electrolyte erosion in a keyboard you bought ('to the third power' indeed lolz), and then there's one of my favorite 'pot of golden laughs' videos, where you reviewed and then later destroyed a Fisher-Price keyboard, or when you explained 'phone phreaking'.

[@mpoulin]

I've been watching a lot of watch restoration videos lately. Your cleaning and lubrication of the drive parts reminds me of those videos. Always great content on this channel! 👏

[@Dukefazon]

I found an old AT keyboard (no Windows key) at my local fleamarket, it had some plaster spilled on and the both ENTER keys were not working (looked like they were stuck down or something), I bought it for about 25 US cents (current exchange rate), brought it home, it was perfectly fine, only the spacer thingies were missaligned under the two ENTER keys. Took it apart, washed, then retrobrited the top of the case and the keys and now I have a beautiful retro keyboard for a quarter of a dollar. I'm so happy that I found your channel all these years ago and inspired me to do this kind of a work, it was so satisfying even for a little old common keyboard.

[@CrazyTechReviews]

So cool to see this thing turn out so nicely. Love the bright white color and design language of these computers! You did a good job cleaning it up and getting it fully operational again

[@ScottLeeOfficialWebsite]

Hi David. Your restoration videos are marvelous, you bring new life to some of our favorite machines! Alot of folks have these computers at home and deal with breakdowns, its nice to have someone that may have gone threw the process to fix known issues. Also its just plain fun to watch even on the same machines with different issues that may occur. If channels start to create fake videos, that's even more of a reason why we'd want you to continue an accurate real restoration videos from you. If anything you set the standard, don't give that away. My 2 cents! Hope you are well!

[@MONSTERGABhorror]

Please don't stop doing restoration videos. Your videos are my absolute favorite and the fact that you give running commentary throughout makes them so fascinating and insightful.

[@edsknife]

I think "online" meant basically the same thing, but it's a difference of magnitude. Seeing as the screen and boot disk are part of two separate units: they're networked in a local setting, as opposed to worldwide. What makes it weird is how we use less LAN cables than we used to. 1:54

[@lander77477]

3:24 what was that sound?

[@GohTakeshita]

Yeah, did David fart?

[@The8BitGuy]

Good question. I never noticed it during editing. I have been known to make sounds of frustration with my lips when things aren't working right. I usually cut that out. Somebody suggested it was a fart. I mean, I guess I can't rule that out 100% but I doubt it. I am usually very careful not to make any sort of obscene sound on camera.

[@lander77477]

@@The8BitGuy I got a reply from the man himself!!! I am honored! Been watching for years love the videos including all restorations!

[@gingerman5123]

Is there any way to artificially accelerate the yellowing process? Would putting a piece of clear coated plastic in a box with a UV light be any faster than like leaving it outside? Maybe use an non coated piece as well as a control?

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

8 bit guy confirmed My suspicions that yellowing plastic can happen without the sun or any light. I have a old PC it was white when it went in the cupboard 5 years ago, now its dark yellow despite not being in any light.

[@SpearM3064]

@@HOLLASOUNDS Yep. And it's not the bromine (fire retardant) that does it either. If it was, you'd _smell_ it. Bromine is pretty pungent. The yellowing is entirely due to the degradation of the ABS plastic. UV light is not required (although it does yellow much faster if exposed to UV light).

[@kissingfrogs]

or oxygen rich atmosphere to test that

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

@@hollyc5417 Plastic will yellow in the dark with no sun at all.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

@@kissingfrogs I have had things white then they have gone yellow when they where in the dark.

[@Rahshu]

I love your restorations. One things I've especially enjoyed is watching develop and refine your retro-bright process. I'd love to see an update on that some time. Some of us just enjoy watching things being cleaned and fixed. It's a very satisfying thing to see. :)

[@camwhitehead4440]

I love your restoration videos. I don't know anything about OLD computers, but I look forward to every restoration video you put out because I LEARN SO MUCH. If people watching this aren't satisfied or think it's fake, they are more than welcome to make videos themselves.

[@ClassicGameSessions]

Love this - you are like MacGyver restoring these computers, David! lol I have a soft spot for old Apple computers, with the II being one of my first. Great seeing this IIc Plus restorated to it's former look!

[@evan__kumar]

13:33 1,000 PLEASE!

[@party4keeps28]

There will always be detractors but it's obvious that you're an honest person and take your work seriously. I appreciate what you do very, very much.

[@MoikeIsJesus420]

I love your videos! im only 12 and have been watching you since i was 5 thanks for great content! and by the way tip for keyboards just fill a sink with water pour soap on a brush and scrub away... works flawlessly and have restored alot of keyboards this way

[@jasongreen2353]

Another vote here for restoration videos. Love the soundtrack you put to them and there is something relaxing about your pace and delivery.

[@jimtekkit]

I find it very satisfying to watch old computers get rescued from inevitable disposal and restored. The KZbin algorithm does favor videos like the oily VIC-20 restoration because of the "extreme" content, but I personally like them for the educational factor. I'll never get my hands on any of these old computers and so it's interesting to still be able to see how they work regardless.

[@MelancolicoCatrin]

Retro restoration videos are therapeutic for me, the way 8-bit guy does them and explains them is the best.

[@santiagoalcaraz554]

Your restoration videos are one of the things that made me subscribe long ago, dont worry about repetitiveness. Seeing a lot of different old computers being restored with the structure you created in the last years is one of the best part of the channel.

[@g00glian0]

1-Byte Guy: I absolutely love the music being playing during the videos, and at the end as well. Puts me in an 80s mood! You seem like the most honest person on Earth, so ignore a couple of turds making silly comments. I hope to meet you some day at one of the events you attend. Keep it up!

[@MarkVrankovich]

Never say never, maybe do restoration videos when the need arises. For a special machine or another reason. Every restoration video adds to the documentation of these old machines.

[@mackenziemcintyre1378]

My old computer teacher before he retired let me play around with his IIc was way different than I expected considering I mostly did hobby stuff with a 98 PC and he inspired me to get my XT and mac plus

[@ferrer985]

okay so I don't have a particular interest in retro tech (or maybe I do in my subconsiousness), but your video's are so relaxing to watch. And although retrotech may seem irrelevant in today's high tech driven world, I think it's very worthwhile to learn how tech started and evolved.

[@BlueMSX.]

I really like the restoration videos, it's like a preview of what's coming down the pipeline.

[@HighOutlook]

I have enjoyed watching your restoration videos because you do an amazing job with it! I have always wanted to restore a computer since I first watched you laser computer restorations. If you stopped I wouldn't be mad, more just sad, I do enjoy your other content. Please keep on doing the restoration videos!

[@eroc1024]

Please don’t stop your restoration vids. They are so relaxing to watch. I mean dig all your vids but those really stand out.