Restoration of Vintage 1975 Timex Watch with M24/M25 Movement

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JSG Watches

JSG Watches

2 жыл бұрын

Servicing a TIMEX M25, these things have a reputation for being nightmares to reassemble, see how I got on with my first attempt working on one of these movements! #Timex #watch #restoration
Movement details courtesy of the good guys over at the Ranfft website:
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@dskim24
@dskim24 10 ай бұрын
You'd be surprised by how many people say they service Timex, but don't actually do so like this. Yes, getting that one big top plate back on is absolutely the bottleneck of the process. Impressive work, sir, you're really doing it!
@ForestWoodworks
@ForestWoodworks 4 ай бұрын
I didn't realize you're "not" supposed to be able to fully disassemble these movements, so that's what I started out doing. It's a bit finicky, but after a couple done there's some tricks. It's pretty rewarding when you get one back together and it starts up. 🎉
@sh1nyarm0r
@sh1nyarm0r 2 ай бұрын
In 1975, parts came from Timex Besançon France, movement and bezel assembled in Taoyuan, Taiwan. In the emergence of the One-China policy 1979, I helped Timex build the production line for mechanical and electro-mechanical watches including M100 and M24/25 in Mactan Island, Philippines which became a major assembly plant of Timex that it is today. Every movement passes through and automatic vibrograph adjustment machine for proper timing of the balance wheel to specifications. Amazing watch still works. Takes me back to memories.
@wsbill14224
@wsbill14224 4 ай бұрын
Department stores used to service watches. Cheap watch service like Timex consisted of soaking the movement in solvent then drying and reoiling. They did not take cheap movements apart because they're too hard to re-assemble quickly by hand. Watch cleaning only cost $4 while you shop so they had to do it fast.
@wings4victory
@wings4victory 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching experienced watchmakers do a Timex movement for the first time. They're commonly perceived as rubbish movements, but after working on them can't help but feel respect for their ingenious design. Inexpensive and serviceable without disassembly. If you fancy putting it back on the timegrapher there is actually a regulator on the balance wheel. I don't think the beat error can be adjusted though.
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely enjoyed the simplicity of this movement, a little fidly to piece back together, but a nice watch to look at! No frills, no nonsense, straight to the point and robust. I’d like to see how the jewelled version fares in comparison
@wings4victory
@wings4victory 2 жыл бұрын
@@jsgwatches Yes! I would pay money to see that! They even decorated their jeweled movement (a bit) I suspect because they were so proud of it. Even the impulse pin is a jewel. Try to find the automatic version if you can- the rotor is decorated. It needs a special tool to get the jewels back in and I've been unable to fabricate one from a screwdriver because it is so small. Good luck!
@sh1nyarm0r
@sh1nyarm0r 2 ай бұрын
It is adjusted once during first assembly of movement through a machine that removes material automatically underneath the balance wheel.
@amandawatson5931
@amandawatson5931 2 жыл бұрын
Simple means reliable. Nice job.
@leifvejby8023
@leifvejby8023 2 жыл бұрын
I can't get over how ingeniously efficent an ugly this movement is constructed! Good job getting it running
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
The more I looked at it and worked on it, the more I liked it 😅
@walther9161
@walther9161 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll watch this vid a few more times to service my 1973. I remember my dad dropping his timex, band and all in ronson lighter fluid and hanging it on a mail for a day or two. Ran for 20 years!! Like they say, takes a …. Y’all know the rest . Awesome video
@stevieminassian3970
@stevieminassian3970 2 жыл бұрын
Just soaked my timex auto wind watch hands face and all in lighter fluid for 5 min. And let it dry seems to be working fine now 👍
@dwayneharris3874
@dwayneharris3874 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I never saw a watchmaker at work before. You make it look easy. Way back in the late 1950s, when watches were worth fixing, we knew the local watchmaker well. As kids, we were always breaking the strap or crystal, and she would fix it. My current watch is a 30 year old Timex digital, very accurate and reliable.
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
Love these little memories of peoples stories with watches ❤️. I feel like the art of watchmaking is making a comeback!
@Super-ew1ty
@Super-ew1ty 2 жыл бұрын
@@jsgwatches Well I have another story for you then. Back when I was a kid, maybe 1975 or so my grandfather died and I found his old watch in a drawer. It didn't work but just so happens the guy on the corner was a watch maker who I cut grass for. I took it to him and he said it was a 1941 Bulova and he'll take a look at it. Few days later he had it fixed with a new crystal even. I'll assume being 1941 my grandfather wore it while serving on the army. He was involved in the liberation of the Philippines. Yes the Army fought with the Marines. I wore the watch until I was grow and even wore it in the 1991 Gulf war which I served. I still have the watch, it's looking a bit rough and not running but I plan on having it restored for my grandson. That watch maker did a great thing for me. A gift I'm still thankful for 45 years later.
@ignacioanaya3403
@ignacioanaya3403 2 жыл бұрын
First time I see someone servicing a Timex, very good job
@fraserp2377
@fraserp2377 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this thanks! Would have been interesting to see it on the timegrapher after a dip in lighter fluid 😆
@unclekevin5094
@unclekevin5094 2 жыл бұрын
I dip mine in Vodka (the cheapest I can find) and then dry it with a hairdryer. A few dabs of WD40 and its good to go for another few years.
@mattobrien3346
@mattobrien3346 2 жыл бұрын
My hat goes off to you sir! You are one lucky chap getting the train of wheels in first time. This is one of the cheapest (if not the cheapest) movement I have tackled myself and is infinitely more difficult that a standard Seiko or ETA. So difficult I got too frustrated trying to line up the bridge and it is still in bits.
@PrimordialTitan
@PrimordialTitan Жыл бұрын
He makes it look easy
@alexr1927
@alexr1927 Жыл бұрын
I literally just disassembled it and can't for the life of me put it back together. Thank you for the video. Wish me luck haha
@hisstorymn
@hisstorymn 5 ай бұрын
The plate on in one go?? You sir, either have the steadiest hands in the universe or are the luckiest man in the world! Thank you for making this available!
@igorcabrera8123
@igorcabrera8123 2 жыл бұрын
First time I see somebody successfully messing with a Timex. Chapeau!
@danielrichter2452
@danielrichter2452 9 ай бұрын
You my friend are literally a god. Well done!
@johnhannon
@johnhannon 2 жыл бұрын
I was able to get my 1964 Timex Zorro watch running thanks to your video. It has the M24 movement and was missing the stem/crown. No jeweler or watchmaker would help. I was not asking them to repair it, just replace the stem. I found a source for the stem/crown and I did not take it completely apart like you did. I wound it up and slightly loosened the top balance screw and it started running! The watch means a lot to me because I received it as a gift from my parents in 1964 when I was 8 years old (I am 66). I may follow the Timex procedure and clean/lubricate it some time.
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear this John, and glad your watch is back up and running. It’ll have many more years of wear out of it yet! JSG
@ericahrendt489
@ericahrendt489 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video and for showing some love to vintage Timex. I have a 1988 auto winding date Timex apart right now. That dial is epic. When I was a kid one of their tv commercials had a watch strapped to an outboard boat motor under the water level and then they went for a ride. Well as a 10 year old I left my Timex in my jeans pocket and it got washed. No water inside but the hands fell off. I effectively told my mom "That's B.S!". So she shipped the watch to Timex and they replaced it albeit with a different model. Thanks again.
@reflactor
@reflactor 4 ай бұрын
I have a watch with an almost identical movement. Thank you for not skipping any steps. By the way, Timex made a truly disposable version of this movement called the M104. This M24 is actually an improvement (the click spring doesn't self destruct over time).
@brettkaufman2299
@brettkaufman2299 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking on this challenge -- I have a few Timex watches to learn on too, and this showed me the way. You are very good at explaining the process of what you are doing and have the right attitude to trudge forward. Enjoyed.
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches Жыл бұрын
The watchmaking journey can be equally rewarding and torturous, just need to keep pushing forward 👌 JSG
@jeromedenmark7587
@jeromedenmark7587 Жыл бұрын
👍great job Glad to see a watchmaker who doesn’t look down on the working man’s watch
@danspencer9499
@danspencer9499 Жыл бұрын
I actually like that dial quite a bit! Very nice work.
@BWV1002
@BWV1002 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed watching it. Great job! I restore those a lot so I would add some info I've gotten from my experience: The dial indicates it is a 1975 Marlin. The case is, however, probably from one of the 60s Marlins. You can see this by matching the case back (waterproof marked) with the dial (water-resistant printed). But anyway, it looks great now :) You CAN find the regulator near the balance. You can actually adjust timing. Very rough but it works. Something called oil cups (balance end-shakes, one on the bottom and one with the balance screw) has to be lubricated. That's a crucial part of oiling this movement (probably you did. I am just mentioning it because I didn't see it from the video). Btw, Timex movements, especially M22/M24/25, last ridiculously long. Many of them are still working without service. Once serviced, they will work for another decade. I don't think Timex had expected that LOL
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
Love the additional info you’ve given for this 🙏 always good to learn from others experiences! Putting some oil in the balance wheel oil cup definitely helped this watch fire back up, as well as oiling the exit pallet fork. I did attempt to regulate the watch by adjusting the regulator arm which improved the rate, but the beat error was a challenge to adjust. I removed the balance wheel from the balance cock to rotate enough to centre the “impulse jewel” between the banking pins, but was unable to get anything decent. I’m sure it’s not impossible to get these things running nicely, but definitely a fine art! None the less, I really like the look of these movements 👌🏻
@BWV1002
@BWV1002 2 жыл бұрын
@@jsgwatches I don't know if it's actually possible to adjust the beat error with timegrapher. I haven't tried. I am doubting because what timegrapher says with a timex movement is not precise. Especially the lift angle of Timex movements is unknown as other Timex repairers report. I heard that's why timegrapher can't read them correctly. Mine says sometimes even wrong daily deviation. But maybe it's possible. I can imagine it's a pain to do haha.
@dominicsmith7793
@dominicsmith7793 Жыл бұрын
Watched the whole process, remarkable! Thanks again for another stellar watch video!
@stevelandron5892
@stevelandron5892 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video JSG!!! With your help and video I just serviced my 1985 Timex! Your video and guidance are awesome. Thank you!!!
@justinfincher2385
@justinfincher2385 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am wanting to get one of my grandfathers watches working again for a Christmas present for my mother, and I was totally perplexed by this when I opened the back and saw only one screw! I’m so glad you made this video!
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches Жыл бұрын
One of the simplest movement designs, yet one of the most challenging to reassemble! JSG
@pqgscott
@pqgscott Жыл бұрын
Bravo! I didn't think I was going to enjoy this video but I absolutely loved it! I have a Timex watch similar with the same movement that stopped working and now I may just try to take it apart. Thanks!
@scottcolon4829
@scottcolon4829 8 ай бұрын
I've got the exact watch. Picked it up because I love the dial. Opened it up to service it and said no way. Good on you for servicing that one. I just put it in lighter fluid. Seems to be working just fine.
@chrisairey877
@chrisairey877 8 ай бұрын
I love your vids! This one covers the movement I happened to purchase as my first restoration project, so I was delighted to find it! I'm with you, this thing is flat out weird!
@lanceorventech6129
@lanceorventech6129 Жыл бұрын
From what I have learned that little golden screw for the balancing wheel it acts like a regulator, If you stiffen it up it stiffens the balancing wheel preventing it from spinning if you loosen it just right you will have a great result on the time grapher
@flymoracer
@flymoracer 4 ай бұрын
Ideally you should use that screw to set the correct amount of end play on the balance, then regulate with the regulating arm
@nigeinblack1
@nigeinblack1 Жыл бұрын
“If I knock one out” 😂😂PML great work man so interesting to watch. Time to get my old Timex out I’ve had for 50+ years and gave a look
@esteban8840
@esteban8840 2 жыл бұрын
In France, when we have to make a cheap service without dismantling, we called this « révision à l’américaine »(A American-style service) , i’ve later learned that it comes from Timex and they’re lighter fluid technique
@tasmaniandevil7610
@tasmaniandevil7610 4 ай бұрын
Im quite impressed on how professional you took and put together your service has been
@RainDog327
@RainDog327 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel because you do watches nobody else ever does.
@richardpetty9159
@richardpetty9159 Жыл бұрын
Best part: “…and when we look at the result… horrendous.” LOL.
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches Жыл бұрын
It was pretty bad 😅 JSG
@richardperrettwatchmaker
@richardperrettwatchmaker 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is a great video! Interesting to see that Timex (in Taiwan?) had poised the balance by removing weight in several areas. Clear photography in good light and helpful explanation ... good work and good photography. Nice one! Richard
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words from the godfather of watchmakers 🙏 These little movements are strangely satisfying to work on and have their own charm, I like the clean no fuss, no nonsense design, straight meat and potatoes with no sides
@jumperpence
@jumperpence 2 жыл бұрын
Another great strip down and assembly. I've ordered a couple of GMT watches from India to start me off on my watch making hobby. I'd love you to do a video on one of these. They cost nothing, but have a strong following.
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck with your first watch boss, It gets addictive! And I might look into it, I like working on those types of movements, some of them turn out to be little gems
@jumperpence
@jumperpence 2 жыл бұрын
@@jsgwatches apparently the movement is based on the citizen 0201. 17 jewels, I paid £8 each for working examples.
@aaron2709
@aaron2709 2 жыл бұрын
Great job. Inspiring.
@russellmaharlika7556
@russellmaharlika7556 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone else who took apart a timex. It's very rare to see someone who dares to disassemble a Timex lol
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
I won’t lie, I was a little nervous I wouldn’t get it back together 😅 aligning the pivots with the top plate looked like a nightmare!
@Mars-zgblbl
@Mars-zgblbl Ай бұрын
Ya done good. I’ve never seen a Timex on a timegrapher before. Timex should have called their movements “Aaargh.”
@Fatcatbaz
@Fatcatbaz 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.. Thanks for not "knocking one out" half way through. That really did make me LOL. It's really interesting how these Timex watches were made and yet work well enough and have lasted. It is similar with the ultra cheap quartz clock movements. Genius in their simplicity.
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
😂 I realised my error as soon as I said it. And I agree on the timex movements, really simple and robust!
@mikequinlan9585
@mikequinlan9585 2 жыл бұрын
That is remarkable great job!
@Dimian7
@Dimian7 4 ай бұрын
Omg, the spring on the wrong side REALLY grinded my gears 😂❤️ Champ!
@lobdsk
@lobdsk 2 жыл бұрын
A dude that loves a challenge I think you might be able to do anything now
@jacksugden8190
@jacksugden8190 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing reassembly
@DC-cw8mp
@DC-cw8mp 2 жыл бұрын
Such a nice video. I have no experience fixing watches, so have no idea what you’re talking about most of the time, but this was interesting anyway. You have a great way of presenting and filming.
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the support boss 🙏 I was actually in the same boat, then thought I’d try to disassemble a watch myself, the rest is history! JSG
@robtk3
@robtk3 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I just bought a handful of old Timex watches on eBay to get started practicing on my new hobby. Having no idea what I was getting into I was thinking I should have looked for some other brand to start with. However, this video has inspired my confidence a bit. I suppose if I can get this this "one bridge design" back together... well, all the better for my future endeavors.
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! if you can nail this one, you'll be golden for any other brands. How did you get on? JSG
@fredericcochin7609
@fredericcochin7609 2 жыл бұрын
I have a few of those cheap watches dating back from the 70ies. (Timex and Kelton) I like their design and marketing history and even their ugly movement (I really enjoy the Dynabeat) . Many people hate those watches for not being "fixable". And not being SWISS made. I am astonished by the job you could do on this one, and to see that they can be serviced. Thank you for sharing , I think I'm gonna watch this many times again. Too bad I gave up on trying to service watches but some are pros (you) others are not.(me!).
@madr8b
@madr8b 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have the same movement except its a 73 model year. After seeing your video I think I can try my hand at servicing it. Thank youy sir.
@VintageInvicta
@VintageInvicta 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could do small watch repairing myself… I just discovered you’re channel! You got an new subscriber! 😛
@scottwaldie4979
@scottwaldie4979 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. The original service manual for the M24/M25, together with the jewelled M74/M75 version of the movement are available for download as a PDF - or at least they were about 9 year's ago.
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll have a search for this manual on some forums 👍🏻
@carlavale6953
@carlavale6953 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video!
@TerryMurrayTalks
@TerryMurrayTalks 14 күн бұрын
Aced that nicely sir.
@andrepetzold1376
@andrepetzold1376 Жыл бұрын
Great Video. Thanks!!
@ikeman5774
@ikeman5774 Жыл бұрын
I don't believe it. I had one exactly like this when I was much younger. Same dial and numbers. I have tried to find a vintage one on ebay, to no avail. Loving this video, seeing my old watch, or at least one like it.
@ronaldspencer547
@ronaldspencer547 7 ай бұрын
Well done.
@jeffrenman4146
@jeffrenman4146 Жыл бұрын
I have the exact movement and it runs but it's a bit tired… I had to take it apart and I put a little bit oil in it just to get it to work yeah it needs a huge cleaning but I can't do what you do… I'm here to say the video was really interesting and so are you. Your incredible. I wish I could do the work you do it looks so fun and rewarding. You're really really lucky. Thank you so much for showing me inside my watch it was fascinating.🤪
@flymoracer
@flymoracer 4 ай бұрын
Just serviced one of these today. Sometimes you are lucky with the plates, but today it was a 90 minute slog to get the plates lined up
@properburger7378
@properburger7378 2 жыл бұрын
Wow great watch! Im fascina ted by the Design Challenge that had to be overcome to achieve such a simplified thus interesting running (thanks to you) movement. Ive seen a couple of other videos about this kind of movement, and I think this my favorite. Quite a short one due to the extream luck of you (in the other 2 cases they had to put hours and several attempts to align all together. Hehe in any case, great Content and keep it up!! Gettings from México.
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
After working on this movement, it’s earned my respect! Simple but genius design that’s still running after 50+ years. Thanks for the support 🙏 JSG
@ahmetdag5600
@ahmetdag5600 3 ай бұрын
This type of watches are called “tel maşa” in Turkish. Which can be roughly translated as “tin fork”. They are called like this probably because of the pin pallet escapement.
@johnmckinstry8546
@johnmckinstry8546 Жыл бұрын
Timex actually had service manuals for these watches so clearly they intended that these watches should be serviced. I have a Timex with an M24 that still goes really well even though it's nearly 60 years old.
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches Жыл бұрын
One of the main recommendations was to dip the whole movement in lighter fluid for a clean/service, I'm sure it would have come back with a similar result! JSG
@ksharp117
@ksharp117 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say timexs recommendations was just simply dip the whole movment in LF. The manual said to remove cannon pinion, ratchet wheel, crown, date wheel and balance wheel and clean parts as normal in only standard cleaning solutions. Then reassemble and lube. It also gives a full diagram of the movment saing "If further dismantling is required....." and instructions on how to do so.
@christicks5843
@christicks5843 2 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video! I tried to shoot this service months ago and gave up in frustration!
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
I was hesitant at the beginning as I thought it could be a long day! I found lining up the square hole for the crown wheel and the pivot for the pallet fork helped get the top plate in position, all other pivots then slotted right in
@tracymcknight8978
@tracymcknight8978 Ай бұрын
You inspired me to take a shot at one of these. Nice work! It's to bad it acted up on you like it dud with the timing. Keep up the good work my friend
@LobsterRavioli
@LobsterRavioli 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting design, the definition of a workhorse movement.
@nickredwine17
@nickredwine17 5 ай бұрын
Bro I’m following along on my own movement and I can’t believe you forgot that spring… that just set me back a couple hours 😂
@spalkin
@spalkin 6 ай бұрын
AND the pallet pin! That's one large group!
@solstar4778
@solstar4778 2 жыл бұрын
Handsome wrist watch 😊 thank you for calibration of it maybe you can adjust it more !
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
These movements are a black art to adjust 😅 I attempted and improved it slightly, but was unable to get anything better than what was shown. A few more hours at the bench to improve my skills and I may revisit it to see if I can improve further 🙏
@qwertykeyboard5901
@qwertykeyboard5901 2 жыл бұрын
the manufacturing nerd in me loves these things.
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, I love the brutal honesty of them. JSG
@hockeyrd99
@hockeyrd99 2 жыл бұрын
I put some Rodico on the side of the balance wheel to hold it in place while I take the v-conic screw out to oil it, then you can adjust the end-shake when you put the screw back in. But honestly, I never take Timex apart like you did. Easy enough to remove the hands and dial, and clean/dry/oil the movement as one piece.
@MattWillMess
@MattWillMess 2 жыл бұрын
New to the channel. Have not seem anything else. But you have my subscription after seeing you attempt this tragedy of a repair of a watch. Timex "marlins" and "viscounts" have made me a good bit of money. This particular watch, lightly serviced, cleaned, with a nice band installed, and listed right will bring an average of $150 USD on ebay. There is a popular niche market there. So, though it may be a simple, Toss away watch, if you can smartly do the above things to it and source your processes smartly, you can get a good profit on it. I have about 150 of this styled watch needing restoration. Just haven't found rhe time to do it:/ Much love mate
@gmotionedc5412
@gmotionedc5412 2 жыл бұрын
Love it
@narendravara5134
@narendravara5134 2 жыл бұрын
Great Job very nice video Thanks
@bostonpaulmakes6927
@bostonpaulmakes6927 2 жыл бұрын
That was fun, and I like that you included having to take a Mulligan on the spring. I'll be the turd in the punchbowl and say that I admired the simple brutal nature of that watch's mechanism.
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
My heart sank a little when I noticed my mistake 😂 and as an engineer myself, I’m also a fan of the simple design of these beasts, don’t tell anyone I said that though!
@VicDzenFPV
@VicDzenFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Had EXACTLY the same with my Timex. I hate this movement, but at the same time I’m proud of myself to win this game
@thehandler_666
@thehandler_666 2 жыл бұрын
I got one of these Timex watches from the 70s with the M24 MOVEMENT, it doesn't run properly and honestly though I love it very much I didn't think of getting it serviced. But an interesting movement no doubt.
@gordon5004
@gordon5004 2 жыл бұрын
That was fun. thanks
@MichaelB-qx1eh
@MichaelB-qx1eh Жыл бұрын
I've done a coupe of these now too and must also consider myself lucky that they were uneventful. No problems getting the train of wheels back together, though your tape method didn't work out for me and I knocked it apart. I found I could just very carefully keep a finger on the bottom plate while flipping the movement holder over to put in the screws. What was difficult is inserting the detent springs on day/date calendar models and installing the dials so as not to foul the calendar. Ideally the springs stay in place and don't need to be reinstalled, but ultrasonic cleaning might kick them loose. At this point I've assembled a Timex train of wheels 7-8 times and have a good feel for it.
@MichaelB-qx1eh
@MichaelB-qx1eh Жыл бұрын
It's especially nice with these to put a wind into them after full service and watch them start out with very low amplitude but start to pick up a lot of steam as the oils flow through.
@robertromeo762
@robertromeo762 Жыл бұрын
I have a timex watch l bought in 1989, with a similar movement. It's repairable, but not many watch repairmen know how to fix these types of watches, nevermind assembling it.
@adrianbirkett594
@adrianbirkett594 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, ya I've seen those before and they ARE a nightmare!. For a better result, the screw on the balance apparently should not be tightened all the way down. It would be a cleaning fluid job for me!. Well done. Adrian
@ericahrendt489
@ericahrendt489 2 жыл бұрын
The manual states .001" or .05mm end shake on the balance.
@lajoskiss7923
@lajoskiss7923 2 жыл бұрын
There is a BCC documentary about the Dundee factory you can watch here on youtube. We believe that they used jigs to put the movements together when you watch the documentary there you can have a glimpse of one of them, so we think. I also would love to talk to the ppl who worked there or to put my hands on one of those jigs. After a little bit of practice and after reading the service manual you can put the main plate back a lot easier than the first time. You are a lucky man if you survive the first service without a nervous breakdown. You did it very well though! I started with M21s I wasnt so lucky / or good and I sacrificed a few HSs on the altar of knowledge. To adjust the beat error I move the impulse pin into position by rotating the HS collet when only the balance wheel is inbetween the two main plates. (this is the risky part hence the destroyed HSs) I dont think that timex ever said that you should put the movement into lighter fluid, they provided a service manual. Lighter fluid actually could work/does work but only if there is no stubborn dirt and those oil cups for the balance wheel many times have rust in them lighter fluid would not remove. You also cannot inspect the parts without a complete disassembly. In the other hand if lighter fluid makes it work who cares? :) You still need to lubricate it and fill the balance oil cups, just like it is written in the service manual which is readily available for download if you look for it. This is a well made video I love. Well done! Subscribed.
@jeffreyhickman3871
@jeffreyhickman3871 2 ай бұрын
Just subscribed to your KZbin channel 😀!! I am such a fan of these automatic, and mechanical watches ⌚️ of days gone by. Timex has seemed to lose their "Takes a Licking and Keeps On Ticking". It's said by some that these early Timex's were designed as a throwaway watch, but I somewhat disagree. They may be, but I think that they were designed to be serviced. This is to the financially minded. Your friend, Jeff!!
@forelligaming7139
@forelligaming7139 2 жыл бұрын
I have this exact watch it was my grandfathers and he gave it to me I have it on a black nato now
@alaindrolet_atlt_2019
@alaindrolet_atlt_2019 2 жыл бұрын
Wow ! Good job, you did it !! The bad news is that you working hard for services the watch, but there’s no ajustements for the accuracy !!
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches 2 жыл бұрын
Very true, I may re-visit this watch at some point to see what can be done about the beat error, but I don’t hold my hopes high!
@Milkmans_Son
@Milkmans_Son Жыл бұрын
​@@jsgwatches If you do revisit I think your machine said 18,000 but the Timex is 14,400 bph.
@best1yet
@best1yet Жыл бұрын
Yes Thank You for the video. I have one of these. I think I will just upgrade my movement instead.
@jsgwatches
@jsgwatches Жыл бұрын
The newer version of these movements (M74/M75) are even jewelled, I like the look of them and would most probably be good time keepers. JSG
@justinc8157
@justinc8157 Жыл бұрын
I have a self wind from 74 which is very similar to this one, but the barrel is attached to the rotor assembly. When I was taking it apart I forgot to let down the mainspring and it sort of exploded. This is the first watch I'm trying to service. I guess I should have found something easier, but this was the cheapest thing on ebay I could find.
@CarnivoreCurin
@CarnivoreCurin 10 ай бұрын
I think you have done this before. No beginners luck. Nice job, interesting video.
@stevefarrell7440
@stevefarrell7440 4 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but the Timex factory wasn't in Aberdeen. I know somebody has probably already mentioned this in the comments but the Timex factory was in Harrison Road, Dundee! And it didn't close down because they were striking, they were striking because it was closing down!
@johnlacroix1639
@johnlacroix1639 2 жыл бұрын
WOW very kool great info.,,1st class AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot keep up the great work.
@Wisconsin.pikachu
@Wisconsin.pikachu 2 жыл бұрын
Want to try and fix a 1957 m22 movement 😆 I just got my grandfather's watch and let's just say it's not running very well at -26mins a day, plus the crown is difficult to pull out sometimes needing to turn it forward and backwards a few times before it will pull out
@RJ-vb7gh
@RJ-vb7gh Жыл бұрын
The beat error is substantially reduced when it's running attached to the propeller of a speeding motor boat. Seriously, these things actually tended to "wear in" before they wore out. Most kept pretty decent time... and could go a few days before adjusting the time. Most people actually just set the time when they wound the watch as part of their daily routine.
@tracymcknight8978
@tracymcknight8978 Ай бұрын
Would love to see you take on the next step up in a timex. I have a early timex self-wind. And to find out that the rotor is lose. There are no numbers on the dial.
@matako89
@matako89 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, do you have a video on your cleaning method and cleaning products you use.
@timothyfoley3000
@timothyfoley3000 2 жыл бұрын
I need to get my 1967 Timex Marlin serviced...
@davidwall6020
@davidwall6020 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe some oil on the balance pivots may take the sting out of the beat error? Question is; will oil help or hinder the balance staff V Conic pivot friction? These are little devils to even theorise about but are very very clever designs and manufactures. Very interesting engineering project analysis for metal/ product design students and professionals alike. Good inspirational video youve done... great to watch. Ill watch all your others. Dave
@perrybucsdad
@perrybucsdad Жыл бұрын
Great video and VERY informative... BUT... I'm glad you and I are not brain surgeons with how both of our hands shake when we do this stuff. :) Do you have a video of how to replace the balance wheel on one of these. I have an M25 that has a bad one, so looking to see how that gets replaced.
@annarboriter
@annarboriter 2 жыл бұрын
Sisyphus finally reached the apex!
@WyvernDotRed
@WyvernDotRed 6 ай бұрын
27:50 In another video I watched a bit of Timex advertising was shown where they boasted of down to .001 second accuracy. Which converts to +-130 seconds a day if you convert it, considering number rounding. So it's running within factory specification!
@patrickm3534
@patrickm3534 6 ай бұрын
I just went over my entire floor with a magnifying glass looking for that little pallet fork😂. She is gone.
@justafanmarvel9669
@justafanmarvel9669 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that this watch does not have the original case back on it... based on the stamp on the inside of the case I believe the back is from a 1966 timex... so it's likely that this was a 75 watch not built in Britain but built in Taiwan for the American market. In fact I'm definitely sure that the case back and dial are from 2 different watches... the. Case back says waterproof on it which indicates that it is much older then 1975, and the dial says water resistant which would be correct for 1975... possibly the whole case is older then the dial and the movement... it's a timex Franken watch lol... great job on the servicing though.
@painting-with-J
@painting-with-J 2 жыл бұрын
The case is correct but the back is wrong it came off of a 1966 Timex. Nice work getting that back together.
@visio-watch
@visio-watch 2 жыл бұрын
Спасибо за видео.
@halamkajohn
@halamkajohn 6 ай бұрын
my dad was a pharmacist with a gold timex. he might have kept it wound and running nonstop for 45 years.it might be here.
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