RESTORING SOUTH BEND SHAPER Re-assembly Tips

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[@geargnasher9822]

MrPete, I just wanted to say thank you for putting this series together. I bought a used 1965 model from a retired machine shop teacher in Indiana and proceeded to restore the whole thing. Your videos helped me a lot with basic disassembly, but I took it all the way down to every last piece because it was in pretty bad shape. I removed and rebuilt the oil pump because the check balls were rusted up, and also re-machined the torn up transfer arm and made a new, oversized sliding block out of bearing bronze and a new shoulder bolt too. The square-head bolt on the rocker shaft is relatively easy to access when the case is clean and dry. The motor had been replaced and it was wired backwards so the gears ingested a lot of chips. The ram ways were worn scalloped and the table ways were swagged out causing table droop. I hand-scraped it all flat and true again and repainted, rewired it all, and remachined the dovetails on the head because it had been crashed and twisted....and a thousand other details. I also scraped the vise to make it true. For all the details, and if anyone else is interested in what it takes to go "all the way" into one of these, here is a link to a thread where I documented most of what I did. www.artfulbullet.com/index.php?threads/south-bend-7-shaper-refurbishment.7699/

[@mrpete222]

I am very glad you liked my series. I just read your entire narration on your link. That was one heck of a big job that you under took. You went a lot further than I did. And yet I worked on mine for probably over a month. You must be very happy with the results. They are very nice little machines aren’t they

[@dougbartosh5735]

Mr. Pete, you do a great job!! I have been a machinist since I was 8 years old! My neighbor had a shop and I would seat and watch him machine things. He talked to my parents to see about teaching me, my parents told him I would get bored. I am 65 years old and have owned my own shop for 17 years now. I learned the old way. God bless you!!

[@mrpete222]

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[@fixitmakeit]

Great finale to a most enjoyable series, by the master of shop `edutainment`. Thanks for your time and effort , hugely appreciated .

[@mrpete222]

Thank you, I’m glad you liked it. I took a whole month

[@JaredAF]

Loved this series. Honestly just love to see you work; I learn so much just from watching you do even the most rudimentary tasks.

[@mrpete222]

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[@SteveSummers]

Loved it. Thanks for sharing Lyle. Every belt but the one you need 😁

[@mrpete222]

You got that right, I should throw them all away. You were doing a beautiful job on that shop building. But it wears me out just watching you, LOL. No I do not want to tackle any very big jobs

[@clifffiftytwo]

3:53 - The tarp moving back and forth looked as if you were working over an ocean. Kind of pleasant, actually. Disconnect for motor - Yes, and plug and socket are a good method, cheaper than a switch, very positive, and visible.

[@steveharrison1144]

I was one of those who hoped that this shaper would be brought back to life. You have done a great job and made a series of superb informative and entertaining videos. Thank you !! I look forward to the next one.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@sithus1966]

Saturday mornings I watch Steve Summers rebuild his shop and then wait for Mr. Pete's video right after.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks 💀☠️

[@johnquinn3899]

Nice use for a magnet. Got my second cataract removed 2 days ago- incredible vision improvement. We call that “experience “ (instead of checking the parts manual). Nice job Mr Pete.

[@mrpete222]

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[@roylucas1027]

A very enjoyable video Mr. Pete. I particularly enjoy the subtle wit and wisdom that come along with the actual project. Thank you.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@DavidKutzler]

7:01 I used to deliver babies for a living. I'm retired now and I'm enjoying my hobby machine shop (thanks Mr. Pete). On more than one occasion, I found that the skills that I developed in my former profession, putting my hands in small, tight spaces to manipulate objects is still useful.

[@mrpete222]

You just cracked me up Dr.

[@paulerickson1906]

Always a pure pleasure to watch.

[@jacquespoirier9071]

the most rewarding moment in the process, the oil leak can easily come from the front oil deflectors as the oil you use is very thin it can slip very easily without being seen very good job and video.

[@stefinatrix3426]

Thank you for the great series on this restoration Mr. Pete. That's a beautiful piece of history that you've brought back to life.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@barthanes1]

The hood ornament looks great. And a huge thank you for removing those hideous yellow tumors of knobs.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@cdp9633]

Thanks Mr Pete, we have enjoyed the journey. Looking forward to the next project.

[@jaredcater6673]

Loved mr.pete laying in the pile of belts!

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@Duckfarmer27]

Lyle - Great series that will be very useful to me. I have a shaper just like yours that I need to go through - as soon as I get the other machines I'm working on up and running. Enjoy the comments on shop class - brings back memories. And my junior high shop teacher became my brother in law when I married his kid sister, so I heard a lot of stories. Thanks for this series.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@davidhanes6861]

I just picked one up too - three days before I left for a month-long, 7700-mile cross-country road trip from PA > Colorado> Calif and back to visit my grandkids (began on 17 Sep 20), a 7" South Bend shaper came up for sale locally. I only had time to set it in my shop before I left. Now that I'm heading back to PA tomorrow, and after watching this series of videos, I'm motivated to get home to try out that fine piece of American machinery. But I wanted to share this: My 5 1/2 year-old grandson likes to watch machining videos with me, and at one point he looked at me thoughtfully and asked: "Grandpa, if they use machines to make other machines, then how did the first machine get made?" Very profound, I thought.

[@mrpete222]

That’s wonderful that you just bought a shaper. I have lots more videos coming

[@mrpete222]

That was a very profound thing for a child to say

[@davidhanes6861]

@@mrpete222 I already have a 7" AAMCO, but the beautiful S-B is kindred to my two S-B lathes. And BTW... like your adventurous charges when you were a teacher, I too rode a large shaper in my early days on the GE Machinist Apprentice Course c.1969. We had heard rumors that the manager in charge of the apprentice course had done that himself when he was on the course, so...

[@ianpendlebury3704]

Wonderful series - your knowledge and humour are priceless.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@henryneyens5066]

Very much enjoyed this series. Can't wait to see it in action!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@bradjohnson9671]

Awesome series Lyle. Thanks for sharing it with us!

[@ramsay19481]

My 14" Steptoe had been outside for awhile at Louisiana State University ....There was an accumulation of leaves in the sump.. Didn't seem to hurt anything though as after cleaning and fresh oil, it still held about 5# oil pressure when it was running.. Great Job! Cheers from Louisiana....

[@danbreyfogle8486]

Great looking machine Mr. Pete. And yes, trifocals are a pain in the neck (and perhaps a pain further south).

[@Radiotexas]

Great video series! Loved the ram's head and the pile of belts! Thanks Mr. Pete!

[@mrpete222]

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[@captainmango1355]

"Literally buried in V-belts" I love your sense of humor! Thanks, Mr. Pete for all you do!

[@Mcphilsmith]

Thanks, Mr. Pete. The belt gag was totally worth it, even if it took a bit to set up.

[@mrpete222]

Yes, I wasted a lot of time with that one. And not many comments about it

[@ALSomthin]

Yup Im right there with you on the eye problems but, Im a swearing man. You are doing ok! Stay healthy you are very much loved on KZbin.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@michaelrandle4128]

Thanks Mr Pete, them little shapers are just beautiful, don't see them over here in the UK, I know, they are made in the USA but most things find their way over here, fact is , decent shapers very rarely come up for sale on E Bay or any other site, I'll keep looking, I find them mesmerising.

[@scottpecora371]

I loved the picture of you buried in V belts. A Far Side cartoon of that would have read. "Suddenly Thag realized he needed to look for a U-Boat, not a V-Belt!"

[@toolbox-gua]

I enjoyed evry bit of it. Thank you for your teaching and sense of humor.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@sefarkas0]

Your flashlight is in the stills at the on the shaper!

[@4GSR]

He'll find it when he takes it apart to move it to the basement.👍🏽

[@GreenBambooify]

Thank you Professor Pete. I enjoy the Belts part.

[@expatconn7242]

Mr Pete I just binge watched all these . Great work . I am restoring a powermatic 1150 floor drill press . My 1 Piece of machinery next is my Kalamazoo horizontal bandsaw. Thanks for the class time

[@GaryT1952]

What a great series Mr. Pete...enjoyed every minute. Thank you for the effort and inspiration

[@G1951-w1y]

Better than Saturday morning cartoons when I was a kid is waking to a MrPete video.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@michaelcerkez3895]

Outstanding video Mr Pete! It takes me back to the day of you building the large steam engine. Good times.

[@mrpete222]

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[@normanfeinberg9968]

Learned a lot about my shaper Mr.Pete thank's to you After reassemble it ran smooth ,Would like to get more oil to the ram but I won't mess with it.I'll just add a little extra oil now and then under power to the ways .Yes you can put that bolt in at 6 0clock .It's s square headed and with a small offset wrench it can be tightened on the flat.Yes my machine was a leaker from day one as well.My shop is now complete?Well there's just one more machine I need for my tiny shop.I'll no what it is when I see it.P.s The last owner couldn't get the cabinet drawers out either.He tapped the rear hole and table.I put a bolt in and it held torque.So be it.

[@mrpete222]

I found the squarehead set screw in one of the drawers

[@Daledavispratt]

If I could give this video two thumbs up I surely would! Enjoyed the series very much. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@troyparr1659]

Excellent job and loads of interesting info. Thanks for a nice series :-) That restoration job now deserves a nice little project to work on. Something to show it in action and to show it's accuracy, etc. Maybe something to show how it compares with a modern machine?

[@ohmbug10]

Great series Mr. Pete. Thank you! You're 100% correct on the 3 electrical brands being the best. In the mills I worked in we would do everything we could to maintain the old ones and did were truly sad when we had to downgrade to new. Westinghouse also made some fine equipment. Think Nicola Tesla. Yes, the plug set to the motor is a good idea.

[@mrpete222]

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[@danielabbey7726]

Great series on the South Bend shaper, Mr. Pete. Another old brand for motor controls was "Furnas".

[@mrpete222]

Yes, I forgot to mention that I have it on my Atlas lathe

[@elsdp-4560]

THANK YOU...for sharing. Watched and very much enjoyed the series.

[@klschofield71]

Just a fantastic series Mr. Pete, but you still gotta do one with this making some chips. It would be a pain, but the base to body bolts may need additional "snugging" in a criss-cross pattern to help with the leak.

[@davidsinclair6425]

From Denmark in Europe - and I really hesitate to say this as I am with you in a lot of 'elf and safety stuff' however I would have put the disconnect plug the other way around. I even feel bad saying this as I really like both your videos' and your attitude, the world needs more guy like you!

[@mrpete222]

If it was the other way around, it would be incredibly dangerous. If the switch was on it would be hot

[@howardosborne8647]

As Mr Pete already said, the plug the other way around would be extremely dangerous as the exposed pins would then be connected to the mains side. If the plug is disconnected and the power still on then its electrocution lesson time.

[@davidsinclair6425]

@@mrpete222 Apologies, I was looking at it the wrong way round, thought the wire from round the back was the supply.

[@denniswilliams8747]

Get your cataracts fixed. I don't think you will regret it. I had one of mine done several years ago. You will still need magnifiers for reading anfdclose work. Thanks

[@ellieprice3396]

I agree, get them cataracts removed Mr. Pete. I had the surgery on both eyes several years ago and am amazed at the difference in sight and colors. After about a month of healing my long distance vision is very clear and glasses are only needed for reading.

[@scottbenauer1189]

I agree also I had mine done best thing ever just need readers for close work

[@jodydoakes8754]

Really enjoyed this series. Always enjoy a restore/renew project. I hope you find another old machine to do. Never enough light or enough flashlights. I picked up dozens of the cheapies when the freight company used to give them away. They are everywhere in my shop and used frequently. When they quit, which they do often, they go in the bin. Unfortunately, the freight company stopped giving away anything, so no more.

[@mrpete222]

I am kind of glad they stopped giving away the junk. I actually started refusing it. Not that I go there that often

[@glennfelpel9785]

Very nice series.....now looking forward to seeing it in use!!! Thank you for the video

[@mrpete222]

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[@rexmyers991]

Very well edited video and very informative. I appreciate your interjection of a little humor. Looking forward to the next video.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@chuckmays3857]

I have watched many of your videos and think this shaper series will be one of my favorites. Thank you for sharing your efforts and experiences with us. Just wish I could get my hands on some of the fine American made “goodies” you seem to fine. Anxiously awaiting the next project.👍

[@billyshipman2199]

Good work MRPETE222, you remind me of my welding instructor when I was in school, if I could make a suggestion, grove both ends of the shaft and put o-rings on both ends. It will also hold the shaft from sliding out. Thanks

[@mrpete222]

That is a good idea, you are the second person to mention that. I really should do that this winter

[@bertjankosters]

Thank you very much for showing us this project!

[@mkegadgets4380]

Beautiful restoration, can’t wait to see projects made on it.

[@devster52]

I have always liked shapers and if I had enough room in my little shop I would try to get one. I still haven't completely given up hope. If I get rid of some things and reposition some stuff I might be able to shoehorn one in but it will be pretty tight. With that oiling system working as well as it does that machine should be running for a very, very long time. Congrats on a great looking and great working rebuild.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@tmurray1972]

Job well done, another piece of history saved for a future generation. I enjoyed the build.👍🏻👊🏻🇺🇸

[@mrpete222]

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[@kenny5174]

Fantastic series! Wish I was " all thumbs" like I used to be, I'd give them all to you!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@fredmorton1631]

Super series of videos and very enjoyable. The oil leak is coming from above the point where you dipped your finger, I could see some dribbling down from wherever it was escaping. As for switch gear in the UK some of the old gold was Bulgin, mostly bulky but you could rely on it no matter what you did with it. Another was Volex, and we had some dashpot starters on equipment that was installed in 1888 when the workshops I served my apprenticeship in was built. Maybe they had a few contacts changed over time, but they worked without fault always!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks 👍

[@Highstranger951]

Can’t wait for the first chips. Nice job Mr. Pete

[@mrpete222]

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[@pwbpeter]

Good Job Mr Pete .

[@richardcurtis556]

Thank you; love these videos of disassembly, repair, reassembly, operation.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@mikejohnson7181]

Looks Great Mr. Pete! Wish it were mine! Love the Ram!

[@28gwdavies]

Hello Mr Pete, I envy your agility at your time of life. I'm some 10 years your junior but can't do one half of what you are able to do. I think it's important that other viewers of yours who are able to do so, make the most of their 'agile years' and don't put off those jobs that you can do at the moment, tomorrow is a new day with new surprises, one of them just maybe your mobility. Enjoy every minute sir.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you, I am more agile than most of my friends that are my age. But it’s getting to the point were hard to get up off of the floor, LOL. Thanks for watching

[@28gwdavies]

@@mrpete222 I can't get up off the floor under my own steam anymore, and my legs will be really sore for days after. The trouble is I always start the jobs knowing it will half kill me, I guess none of us want to call time on our mobility. Keep well and keep fit Mr Pete, we all look up to you for our strength.

[@slhasebroock]

Excellent series, thank you!!!

[@keithpattison6763]

Hello Lyle, firstly, I had Cataracts removed about two years ago. Has made a major improvement on my distance vision, such that I no longer have to wear glasses to drive. My close up vision now requires glasses. It is a weird sensation having the Cataract removed and the new lens fitted, as you are awake through it. This shaper is looking realy good, I will have to keep an eye open here in Australia, for a Hercus model 270, which would be a clone.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@MaturePatriot]

A finished nut is one that has been salted and dry roasted. LOL I loved the Ram Head, which looks like a Dodge Ram Hood ornament. I love Shapers of any size. Would love to have a 12" Shaper, but Shapers of any size/type are scarce as hen's teeth around here. Really enjoyed this series.

[@larryschweitzer4904]

Nifty little shaper. I liked seeing the insides & how they work. I had cataracts that made it hard for me to see the Vernier marks. About a year ago I got lens implants. I opt for the ones that have variable focus. No glasses needed. They have worked great. At first there are "stars" around lights at night but now not an issue. The variable focus added a lot to the cost, about $8K. The standard units would have been fully covered by Medicare and my supplemental insurance. I think not needing to use glasses makes it worth the extra $ if you can swing it. Hell to get old! I'm 78, older than dirt.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@stuartlockwood9645]

Hi Mr Pete, there's an old saying ,if you can't see oil leaking out ,that means there's none in there, lol. Seriously though you've made a grand job of it, can't wait to see it making chips again, I also like the new sweat shirt, and it's message, stay safe mate, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart.uk.

[@mrpete222]

My tractors leak from one end to the other. I need a piece of cardboard 10 foot long to soak up the oil

[@txrascal]

Enjoyed the series.

[@markcrotty5094]

Thank you for sharing this with us

[@normanfeinberg9968]

Great Video Mr Pete I'll watch it again when I reassemble my shaper after cleaning Although I may use permatex or a gasket on the base.Mine was leaking before I dissasembled it.There was always some oil in the pan after use

[@mrpete222]

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[@leeroyholloway4277]

I'm rebuilding a rescued Atlas shaper now. The manual actually suggests dressing (with the shaper) the table surfaces as they accumulate wear and/or damage.

[@mrpete222]

Really, that’s interesting to know

[@fasteddie4107]

Another great video. It’s nice to see the restored beauty in full. Thank you. Common nut = little peculiar. Finished nut = full blown California liberal.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@wktodd]

The Crabtree switches on my 62 year old horizontal mill are still good as new

[@philipquinlan1045]

Well done. Very nice work. Thanks for sharing.

[@chrischapel9165]

Viewing the bowells of the running shaper sounds like a purring cat LOL

[@phillipjones3342]

Well done Mr. P thanks for sharing

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@jacobpoucher]

you took that ram by the horns lyle!

[@terrycannon570]

Excellent series Mr Pete. Thanks for the extra detail explaining the lube circuit. I always wondered why mine does not have felt wipers on the front and rear of the ram. I need to check mine again and see if it has the oil return blocks on the front and rear of the machine. For a Hobby Shop machine these little Southbend are very well built. Much better than Atlas. Thanks again . BTW I got more from the video than i expected. Love the detail.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@railfan439]

Thanks for the video, Lyle. They are appreciated. I see you found your flashligt. Jon

[@mrpete222]

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[@shockwavecity]

sad this series is over. hope there will be another restoration in the future.

[@angelramos-2005]

Right,this was a giantic job and I learned a lot.Thank you,Sir.

[@mrpete222]

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[@charlesjones257]

love the videos. could take the table downstairs and use the mill to clean up the table or just stone it and "go!" maybe you could do a video on what to do with a shaper? thank you for putting your knowledge on "film" for the future machinist's education.

[@RetroSteamTech]

Mr Pete, thank you so much for this brilliant series. I think you've done a cracking job on that shaper and very much look forward to seeing it make some chips. Cheers, Alan.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

Thanks for another great edutainment video.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@4SafetyTraining]

Thank you for all the great info

[@izzynutz2000]

Awesome video Lyle...looks like new

[@Mrcaffinebean]

Great series! The machine looks great!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@AJR2208]

Hi Lyle, very nice job. So, a "finished nut" is the very last one installed for the end of the assembly. Usually done shortly before "first sips". Stay safe and well :)

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@fredh54]

I had never heard the term "finished nut" before . You forced me to look up the term. Old teachers never die...

[@CajunGreenMan]

I hope being buried in V-belts doesn't become your final resting pose. ;) Keep up the great work!

[@mrpete222]

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[@davelister796]

@@mrpete222 This comment makes me think of the ancient Egyptians who where entombed with all of their favorite possessions. :-O

[@ellieprice3396]

Another interesting project completed. About the "weeping" rocker arm shaft? Would it be possible to add an O ring on the shaft to stop the messy oil seepage, or is it too crooked to chuck in a lathe? Thanks.

[@mrpete222]

I should make a video of that, several people have mentioned that remedy

[@nickvee9468]

Awesome series Mr. Pete and please don't think me a "critic Nasi". In the area of cross rail feed pawl lever and rod; a brass shoe was used about 1/4" long or better with the set screw so the flat on the rod was not necessary. You also seem to be missing a short broad phillips head dog tip screw to hold the rocker arm pivot in place on the yoke/lever. The rod was probably bent by adjusting the table height up without loosening the adjustment set screw (and then turning the machine on). A 29" belt is the correct size on the adjustable side and a 28" on the motor. If you thought the 29 to long, back out the taper head screw on the back of the main body. The "black stuff" used on the oil return trays was pitch tar. I used Indian head gasket sealer on mine, or another alternative is melted resin which was also used on the oil pump and lower electrical box to seal them from oil seepage. I like the motor disconnect idea and just making a motor guard cover for mine; I should have heeded your direction of a 2-piece method from your guard making videos. (hard to bend 1 curve over the other and getting the bend point distance right... Best to you and yours and thanks for the awesome videos!

[@mrpete222]

Thank you for the tips

[@DavidKutzler]

Mr. Pete, get your cataracts fixed! I put mine off too long, but it was like a miracle when I had it done.

[@mrpete222]

I am too afraid. I have no fear of Covid whatsoever. But I am very fearful of other things such as cancer and strokes

[@ogaugeclockwork4407]

Thanks! Great job!

[@PaulA-yh7kr]

Mr Pete just a though in part 7 AT 23 min. you are screwing the mounting bolts in dry if they are through holes that is where the oil is coming from if they are blind your on your own. Thank you for your time on youtube, time is what you have been sharing with students the one that listened are forever grateful the ones that didn't their tough luck. Paul from Oregon

[@mrpete222]

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[@NBCRGraphicDesign]

Cataracts? I took you for a Ford-man. Oops..... now I see you're a Dodge RAM-man....... is that Spite Barking we hear? Great video..... Great series!! I did have to look up Finished Nut..... I knew there was this sort of animal, but didn't know it had a name.

[@CapeCodCNC]

Finish nuts are made in Finland! I would run much heavier gear oil, those gears under load will overcome that thin oil film strength. But what do I know I did NOT stay at a Holiday Inn last night!

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@bstevermer9293]

Will you ever get into scraping and correcting alignment on the tools you do. It’s lots of work so I under stand. Just love these narrations .

[@jakespede7540]

Outstanding instructional video. Thank you.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@susanbarbier5053]

Love my Furnas A14 drum switch! Have one on my walker turner drill press. Not quite sure what’s on my south bend lathe...

[@mrpete222]

I forgot to mention that brand. I have several of them around the shop. I had them at the high school and they never failed