Nintendo 64 vs Nintendo GameCube - Retro Bird

It's a battle of two of Nintendo's poorest selling (but still loved!) consoles!
Nintendo 64 vs Nintendo GameCube
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Games played: Mario Kart 64 (0:05), Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (0:25), Goldeneye 007 (0:30), Super Mario Sunshine (0:58), Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour (1:10), The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD (2:05), Mario Golf (4:25), Super Smash Bros. (6:10), Diddy Kong Racing (6:50), Super Smash Bros. (7:50), Viewtiful Joe (9:40)

[@melancholas]

Both having build in a multiplayer tab, has been the biggest win for me. It was a p. I. t. a to get them for older generations. For that reason my memories are connected to playing multiplayer games with friends (pre-online era multiplayer) especially those THQ WWF and WCW games. And the jump into 3D for some franchises made many games more interesting to me. Yes, the older Zelda games on NES and SNES have been great in their own way, but Zelda, Mario (Kart) and Metroid these games are far more superior for me. When it comes to shitstorming back then, I never ever cared about that and would call it "when our eyes first met" moments. The GameCube, Xbox and PS2 era in general for still one of the best, if not the best generation in concole gaming. Back to the expectations for The Wind Waker, I remember that I first have been disappointed when I saw on where the graphics design decision fell on. Maybe the one or other here remembers that there have been promo videos and snippets, where there have been showcased a much more different Zelda game. Soul Calibur on GameCube then was that game where I thought, this is how I wanted Link to look like. Took me years to give Windwaker a chance. BTW, I hope you had a great time with the bird family. 👍

[@skygrade]

Metroid prime for the GC and GoldenEye were best for me. Could you do a Metroid vid?

[@AnonimitySmith]

I agree with Nintendo 64

[@BitFinityGames]

People love when Retro Bird mentions bananas or Timmy, but I'm over here going nuts whenever he says "dirty dog."

[@Gutsyredcoat]

Same here, love every bit of how he uses it and its delivery. Clean classic humor and this is coming from a guy who likes vulgar humor as well

[@SoloBoardGamingKnight]

Playing Mario 64 for the first time was a feeling that has not been matched since. That was a magical experience.

[@braves4life25]

First time playing dark souls is my closest experience and still that hasn’t reached Mario 64

[@bombkangaroo]

Like Miyamoto said back in the day "Gamecube is an evolution, not a revolution". Even though it was the technically better console, with a better controller and more mature software after years of experience developing 3D games, it just never hit as hard as N64. Mario 64 really was a watershed moment in gaming, that's when everything changed. Sure, there were 3D games before, but none which got so much right at the same time. It became the benchmark for all future games, the gold standard for years to come.

[@TRJ2241987]

For me, Ocarina of Time, Sonic Adventure 1st level, Crazy Taxi, Halo, GTA Vice City & GTA IV were the last ones to give that similar 'jaw drop can't believe this is real' feeling......but certainly I will never forget the 1st time finally getting my hands on a Nintendo 64 controller at the kiosk at Kay Bee Toys in Barkhamsted, Connecticut......footrace against the koopa.....I was nine years old.....absolutely magical......and then opening the box for the console on Christmas '96 after months of hoping (and being told by my mom that she wasn't able to get one) still gives me chills thinking about what a great moment that was

[@braves4life25]

@@TRJ2241987 KB toys.. that’s a true throwback

[@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701]

Yes it was a Gaming Experience like *No Other* 🙌

[@neogohanamv]

Just wanted to say I appreciate the extra work you put in to capture games running natively on a CRT. All too often people capture from emulators or direct feeds which lose that cozy vibe you get, original controller in hand, sneakily playing by the glow of some cathode rays. Your extra effort does not go unnoticed!

[@Level_Eleven]

This 💯 It really adds some character to the channel!

[@neogohanamv]

@@Level_Eleven Definitely agree! I know it's difficult to capture CRTs properly with a camera, especially while also balancing a controller in spotlighted focus and actually playing... but all of that does add a ton of charm to the presentation.

[@carlataylor9924]

I agree! Nothing like having a game room in your closet and how would i know that if you didnt capture real footage of how you really play and own your hobby! Love it!

[@reggiebuttsmash2321]

Agreed

[@TheMysteryDriver]

Maybe he could get an old capture card that plugs into rca, rf or whatever

[@rhetttr0]

N64 is special to me because I’m endlessly fascinated by early 3d. Something about its limitations spawning creativity. The games were still funky and broken in a good way. I love GC too, but something about it (besides just the graphics) feels like a conventional, modern system.

[@RetroBirdGaming]

I love the N64 for its quirks as well! That entire generation in fact :)

[@Gutsyredcoat]

Yup I still to this day feel some sort of exploration in the games just because of the graphics and layout, looking for things that probably aren't there and thats because in 97 when I first got one it was that much of an impact on myself and the world

[@Shigarui]

The most underrated moments in your videos are the masterfully framed gaming segments where you have the TV and controller in screen, highlighters via spotlight. I love those, way to flex also, lol. They remind me of some old film noir interrogation scenes or something. I love your videos man. You are the banana pudding of retro videos. Just sweet, sweet comfort dessert for my brain.

[@gregorys9629]

The translucent green N64 still looks amazing to this day.

[@Crazy_Gamer_OG]

I'm still fond of the classic dark grey originals.

[@Gamevet]

It's pretty epic! I have the Grape N64. I wouldn't mind owning the Gold console.

[@RetroBirdGaming]

Especially with a yellow cartridge in it!

[@AnonimitySmith]

I've still got my translucent green console and a pokemon edition N64

[@DPTBassment]

I bought the translucent green controller for my 2nd controller. My console came with a gold controller.

[@GoodVibeCollecting]

The N64 walked so that the Gamecube could run. Just like how the Super Nintendo improved on the NES in almost every way, so did the Gamecube with the N64. Better controller, better third party support, and it could even play all 3 types of Gameboy games.

[@yotornadoyo]

Worse games though

[@jaretco6423]

​@@yotornadoyoMetroid Prime & Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door says otherwise.

[@GoodVibeCollecting]

@@yotornadoyo To each their own.

[@GoodVibeCollecting]

@@ericfudurich7944 The N64 has fewer bangers but the ones it does have are like 9/10. The GC has more bangers but they are more like 8/10. So I guess it balances out.

[@GoodVibeCollecting]

@@jaretco6423 Super Smash Bros. Melee and Resident Evil 4 also says hi.

[@ddis29]

it seems to me that the gamecube's popularity took off as soon as the wii exploded in popularity. suddenly all those people who didn't have the gamecube could play all those gamecube games

[@neogohanamv]

Especially with the deluge of Wii shovelware. I think you're right that lots of people went back and explored GC classics when Cooking Mama 7 didn't quite do it for them.

[@dahubbzgaming]

The Wii era is when I started to play more Gamecube.

[@outoftouchnetwork]

Star Fox 64, Perfect Dark and Diddy Kong Racing for me. Not to mention the zaniness of the polygonal masterpieces that are the jank Zelda characters. The N64 didn't take itself too seriously but we got some unique classics like Wave Race 64, Doom 64, Conkers Bad Fur Day, WinBack. What a blast.

[@megamob5834]

You get a like for mentioning Winback. Such an underrated gem

[@kma4835]

Retrobird putting out a vid on a Friday night is a huge win 🏆 I love this guy so much so wholesome so chill easily have become 1 of my favorite youtubers of all time

[@iconoclast137]

i am guilty of hating the windwaker art style when it first came out. but yes, it has aged beautifully, and i was wrong.

[@Crazy_Gamer_OG]

I liked the art style of WW, but after playing the game I ended up hating it for other reasons.

[@divinecomedian2]

I still wish they'd gone with something else. But I'm not as upset about it now.

[@tulwinn]

@@Crazy_Gamer_OGthat’s funny, the complete opposite to me. It looked weird when all I saw were stills in magazines. But once I saw it moving, I was sold. It was a like live cartoon. I wish they would bring it back.

[@joshuarichard6827]

@@tulwinnall games are live cartoons

[@blast_processing6577]

I think a lot of people disliked the Wind Waker art style initially, but it really has aged well and it fits the game's story well.

[@Nightowl1981]

We all missed you last week! Thanks for this!! ☺️

[@MrPooPooJohn]

This is true.

[@rtroisback]

new retro bird video is always the highlight of the week

[@GhibliNova]

I mentioned in a post but I'll retype here since this is the video if yall don't mind :) The GameCube was really the Super N64. It did the same thing the SNES did from the NES. The NES/N64 created staples in 2D/3D and the SNES/GCN refined those staples with better visuals and sound. Sure Zelda went from High Fantasy to Pirate Anime, but Final Fantasy went from High Fantasy to Steampunk Anime moving from the NES to the SNES. I don't think the Gamecube tried going a 'different' direction, They evolve just like every other company does, the only difference is Nintendo never moved away from having a focus on family friendly games, in an era where that was taboo for video games. So Nintendo never changed, everyone else did. :)

[@PowerSynopsis]

Glad the dirty dog didn't do dirty deeds this week. I missed my weekly weekend Retro Bird last week. Only the Duke could catch strays in a video about GC vs 64. What a monstrosity.

[@Outrage654]

As long as he doesn’t do it dirt cheap

[@RetroBirdGaming]

Glad to be back at it!

[@MegaDeox]

What's with all the dirty deeds jokes lately? I only know the ACDC song by the same name.

[@PowerSynopsis]

@@MegaDeox Baader Meinhof effect I guess...but not really since you've known about ACDC for a long while I assume?

[@Okla_Soft]

Grew up with NES,SNES, but the 64 came out at that magical time for me (age 12) and it definitely holds the top spot in my heart as well. My most treasured gaming memories and moments occurred on the 64. Does anyone else remember how huge the 5th gen of consoles was for gaming ? We took the leap into 3d and especially at the beginning, the n64 just a higher ratio of quality titles. I love the PS1 as well, but I think the n64 will always be my favorite console ever. GC wasn’t appreciated in its time like it is now, and its library has that extra layer of polish that should extend its relevancy a bit longer in the conversation. Great vid. Oh and both controllers are awesome as well.

[@syncmonism]

The N64 analogue stick, when in good condition, is supposedly more precise than any modern analogue stick you'd find on any game controllers. However, the biggest problem with them is that they wear out a lot faster than modern control sticks as well, though it would still typically take a couple of years. They'd wear out so gradually that a lot of people wouldn't really notice how bad they got, and a lot of the bad reputation of N64 controllers is probably a result of people using ones which had worn out sticks. Thankfully, you can buy replacement parts for surprisingly cheap, though those parts will typically be a bit worse than the original sticks, and it can get really expensive if you want replacement parts that are of better quality than the original sticks. Speedrunners for games like Mario 64 strongly prefer the original type of analogue stick, which is a testament to how precise that control stick type really is. Considering that it was the first standard controller for a console with an analogue stick, it stands to reason that it was flawed. Calling the N64 controller bad would be like saying the model T is a bad car by pointing out how inferior it is to a modern car. It just doesn't make sense.

[@lmk10000]

Exactly. Sony made the analogue controllers better just because they saw what Nintendo did and copied them.

[@TheMysteryDriver]

I never had an N64 controller go out on me.

[@joshuarichard6827]

The model T is bad. Terrible analogy

[@mrcrunch8000]

People say that but seem to neglect the fact it's less a technology thing and more a physical thing.

[@davidcarroll1991]

GameCube introduced RE4. Enough said lol

[@Level_Eleven]

Yeah but OOT

[@kallevirtanen7145]

w i n d w a k e r

[@mushra50]

You do know that Nintendo bag for that game to be an exclusive on the GameCube but Capcom told them they don't want to do that

[@HexRosado]

Something about being in a room with a GameCube feels more special. Playing it. Holding its control, and even turning it on feels special. It's like life isn't supposed to be as good as it is as when you have a GameCube but it accidentally gave you too much. From its blocked shape, to the tiny discs you put inside, to the first perfectly working wireless controller experience that still stands the test of time today... It provides a very satisfying feel to just have one, that I don't think happens to N64. Humble opinion.

[@themailman3331]

GameCube over the N64…FTW. When Capcom dropped screenshots of the Resident Evil Remake, they blew peoples minds, the level of detail, the graphics were so much better than anything else at the time. And Nintendo once again revolutionized controllers with the Wavebird.

[@divinecomedian2]

Revolutionized? What about the GameCube controllers was used in any other controllers?

[@grawman67]

Analog triggers, having wireless capabilities, having a wide variety of colors​ just like N64.@@divinecomedian2

[@mushra50]

Is crazy that the GameCube was kind of doing Bluetooth technology before Bluetooth technology even existed

[@grawman67]

@@divinecomedian2 The form factor as well as wireless tech that worked well

[@brichan1851]

“You don’t deserve to Donkey Kong.”

[@Bored_Barbarian]

10:14 same. Although I love smash melee, lost kingdom and animal crossing, n64 has perfect dark, duke, wave race, battletanx, and ocarina of time. Diddy Kong racing and Star Fox 64 are some of my best early gaming memories, playing with friends or at babysitters as a kid

[@imKazahkstan]

4:05 it's not just a stool, it's a stool that says "THE GAME" on it in bold font

[@Yipper64]

I would choose the N64. The gamecube is great but it kind of just feels like the middle step between the N64 and wii to me. Since the wii is basically a beefed up gamecube. There's something so iconic about the blocky graphics of the N64 that kind of again, makes the gamecube seem more transitionary to me than something that cuts above the N64.

[@Metal-Josh]

You should really bring that hairstyle back

[@cornfritterjones5349]

Great vid, I actually never owned a game cube until I was an adult. I’m still finding games that shock me with their quality.

[@nathancrowe641]

What stood out to you, and what did you play, as a kid?

[@MattValtezzy95]

I thought you were gonna give the nod to Gamecube since that had Super Monkey Ball (bananas)

[@neogohanamv]

Based on the overwhelming number of Donkey Kong and Super Monkey Ball games, GC definitely is the top banana.

[@tempestnova6715]

But N64 has Donkey Kong 64. Ooooooh Banaaanaaa.

[@Crazy_Gamer_OG]

@@tempestnova6715 Too many Bananas in DK64...

[@RetroBirdGaming]

I do love me some Super Monkey Ball!

[@divinecomedian2]

Diddy Kong Racing also had nanners

[@Oleander007]

I look forward to your videos every week. They are funny, informative, and stay positive in the realm of gaming, which regularly decends into negativity. Keep it up!

[@arenschultz]

The head and heart comparison is on point with how I feel about them. Well said!

[@randylahey1232]

The psychotic knife banana scene was good made me laugh out loud yet again RB👍

[@jjkehrley]

64 had my heart until the Resident Evil remake dropped on the Cube! I still have a lot of love for both consoles though! 😁

[@tonyp9313]

The Originals on PS1 are better. I beat both the remake & Resident Evil 0 on GameCube back in the day.

[@RetroBirdGaming]

I got that remake on day 1. It was an experience!

[@brighamfish713]

Love the video, and glad you're back! I always look forward to these. I would have to say that the N64 wins out for me. I think the games are more iconic though I think a comprehensive comparison would have to be case by case. One interesting take I'll stand by though is I think the n64 controller is actually better, provided it's in good condition. I think it gets way too much hate for it's design, but it at least has a functional d-pad unlike the blister inducing tiny pad of the GameCube. People criticize the N64 controller for only half-justified reasons. They'll say the 3 handles are awkward, and they are half right. They usually won't mention that games were intended to have usually one of two control schemes and you had a controller that could do both very ergonomically. Games weren't made to use the dpad and analogue stick at the same time for the N64 outside of turning HUD menus on and off so the 3 hand criticism is unwarranted. I could say more, but at the end of the day they are both great consoles i owned and enjoyed in my early youth and it will probably just come down to graphics for a good many people anyways lol.

[@evilmact]

Agree! GameCube controller is very comfortable but the d-pad is just useless. Very good for 3d gaming but terrible for 2d gaming or fighting games, that's why I also prefer the N64 controller.

[@andystreepy3146]

Love when these videos pop up on my youtube..it makes me happy

[@Spitfire_1940]

That transition during the golf game around 4:25 was super smooth

[@RetroBirdGaming]

Thanks!

[@karimcheese7257]

The GameCube was a better console overall not just in terms of hardware but also the games themselves. I know that's just an opinion but GameCube games have aged far better than the ones on N64 and unfortunately the only thing that kept the 64 relevant were the first party titles by Nintendo and Rare (especially memorable 4-player multiplayer games)

[@TehPwnographer]

The games from that era have aged the best, I would compare it to the timelessness of the Super Nintendo

[@Crazy_Gamer_OG]

There are a lot of games on the N64 that weren't made by Nintendo or Rare that are still appreciated. You just don't see a lot of people talking about those games because they weren't made by them. The Turok games are all really good & have remasters, Gauntlet Legends on N64 is still considered the best home conversion by a lot of people, Body Harvest is a game that's getting more recognition these days, & there are a lot of arcade racing games that are still some of the best in the genre on the N64.

[@karimcheese7257]

@@Crazy_Gamer_OG I played all those games growing up, in fact I have more playtime on the 64 than most other consoles because of my friends all having one. But the GameCube had more variety and it better represented particular genres lacking on the 64

[@ladams391]

I never owned an N64 but I did own a GameCube, so I might be biased, but I feel that overall the GameCube as a complete experience holds up much better. That said, I respect that the N64 was a landmark platform in it's own right, even if playing the 3D games for the console now makes my eyes bleed I have to acknowledge that the number of polygons it could push, the four controller ports, and the killer line up of both in house and third party games were very impressive. The controller is and always was a mistake though, I respect that a lot of people have nostalgia for it and that back then no one was really sure how to make a controller that was good for both 2D and 3D games, but that thing is a monstrosity. I just wanna know who I should blame for making a wish with a monkey's paw that Nintendo's next console after the N64 would use optical media instead of cartridges. Nintendo said, "We're finally moving to optical media," then the finger of the paw curled, and the rest of the sentence was, "but our discs will be a weird format that's severely scaled back from standard discs," and the poor GameCube got the worst aspects of both cartridges and discs: substandard data capacity compared to other game discs AND slower than cartridges. The GameCube could have been so much more if only they had gone with a more standard optical media format.

[@hdroid18]

So true! I do love how cute the little game discs are, but as a practical matter it was shooting themselves in the foot you could say

[@ladams391]

@@hdroid18 Yep, I forgot to mention it in my first comment but I too have some nostalgia for the tiny discs, I remember I had a little zippered booklet case that came with the carrying case my parents got me to go with my GameCube and I thought it was so cool at the time that I could carry like thirty or forty full-sized games in the palm of my hand or a pocket. Not that I ever had that many games to put in it, but the idea felt so cool to my younger self. As I got older and learned more about the actual hardware and technical details of the console, though, I felt increasingly disappointed that Nintendo let their fear of piracy (which inevitably happened anyway because it literally always does) push them into a design decision that, in my opinion, was the greatest limiting factor of the GameCube hardware, especially considering it was the last console they've made to date that could compete on equal footing with the other consoles of its generation in terms of power.

[@maroon9273]

Same thing with the wii and wii. U which uses DVD and single layer blu-ray disc like tech. Instead of using HD DVD and dual layer blu-ray like disc. Nintendo was always behind media format for their consoles since the n64 and hardware with the wii.

[@ladams391]

@@maroon9273 As I understand it (and I haven't looked into it in quite a while so feel free to correct me if I'm verifiably wrong) the Wii U using what I like to call "diet BluRay" was mostly because of some kind of issue where Sony didn't want to play ball with the licensing to use real BluRay tech and tried to charge a ton, and Nintendo wasn't having it so they just created their own comparable format instead. Who knows if Sony actually were trying to overcharge, but I do have to respect the "Well in that case I'll just make my own" that Nintendo pulled, it always makes me chuckle to think about it. I've never particularly cared for the business practices of Nintendo or Sony so as far as I'm concerned they kinda deserve each other's nonsense (specifically the executives and other business types, I don't mean any disrespect to all the engineers and developers that actually work really hard to bring these systems to market).

[@oaktreep1987]

I got so much love for both systems. At the time i didn't own a N64, but i had a PS1 and PC. My cousin, got a N64 with SM64 and Goldeneye and it was amazing to control Mario in 3D, but still i could live with the thought not owning a N64. My cousin booted up Goldeneye ,the famous Bond intro musis started and playing the Dam level and my favorite the Facility, i needed to have an N64. I played a lot off FPS games on PC, but nothing came close to Goldeneye.

[@FlameJackstar]

Gamecube is hated online, what...?? Back in school all of my buddies owned one of them and we played the games like crazy. Mario Kart, Soul Calibur 2, Dragonball games, Time Splitters, The Sims, the Zeldas of course, Luigi's Mansion... Such an amazing console. Unfortunately I sold it...

[@scalesofleviathan9697]

N64's 3rd party library is quite underrated. It's small but very high ratio of quality to quantity. Duke Nukem 64 and Zero Hour, Doom 64, Body Harvest, Shadow Man, San Francisco Rush series, best version of RE2, Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness, Turok 1-3, Sin & Punishment, Vigilante 8, BattleTanx, the AKI wrestling games, Ogre Battle 64, etc. Really like the GCN also, some incredible build quality on the hardware, but I'd rather play most of its 3rd party games on original Xbox instead.

[@rockguitarist931]

I always thought the Wii was the ultimate culmination of what the N64 started, it's basically a beefed-up Gamecube.

[@hatfielder100]

If Confucius was a video game nerd

[@jakejasonread980]

Your content, topics and especially humour are always top notch! Absolutely love your videos!

[@stashmerkin9576]

I just got an N64 unexpectedly and have been having a lot of fun with it. I don't have any nostalgia for the console so it's been fun seeing what was released for it. Was delighted to find out the N64 has a solid roster of racing games!

[@tonyp9313]

I got the ever drive for it. To make that work you need to buy the expansion pak.

[@neogohanamv]

Beetle Adventure Racing is an overlooked title if you like racing! It seems odd at first glance since it's only Volkswagen Beetles, but the "adventure" part is what sells it -- the courses have a lot to discover in them and it makes it really unique

[@hdroid18]

@@neogohanamvcan second this for sure! It is a great little game with not half bad graphics for the system either!

[@Level_Eleven]

I love Retro Bird’s shots of playing games. The way it shows the controller and the screen but nothing else in the shot even exists… literally how gaming feels 😂

[@FeIIex]

As much as I love both consoles, I have to give my personal choice to the N64. Whenever I have friends over these days, we always gravitate to it for Mario Party 1 - 3 over 4 - 7. Same applies with Mario kart 64 vs Double dash, it's just easier for us to pick up and play I suppose.

[@HugoBonami]

The N64 had 6 incredible games. The Gamecube was a better system but it got Wii U'd by Nintendo (or it laid the foundation for the Wii U being Wii U'd). 1080 Avalanche and Wave Race: Blue Storm had poor controls and trick mechanics, Zelda was teased with awesome 3D but then Wind Waker was released, sports games were lacking (outside of 2K titles) and were often poor, and we didn't have the Rare games. The Gamecube's controller was very comfy on average to smaller hands, and still OK with larger hands.

[@brett6239]

On paper if you compare game by game the GameCube wins. But it's hard to explain to people that didn't experience it how revolutionary the N64 was. And you can get a hint of this by comparing SNES and N64 games. We were finally no longer confined to the 2D plane, and man did it feel good. Remember just playing around the castle in Mario 64 and swimming. Remember the first time on Hyrule Field in Ocarina. Compare Star Fox to Star Fox 64. Damn. Our jaws were on the floor. Then we got a GameCube and...well...those graphics sure look nicer. Please.

[@deckofcards87]

The lack of level variety is what ranks Sunshine slightly below Mario 64, for me. And...as basic as it is...I also prefer the game's plot in SM64. Having said that, everything else in Sunshine was a big improvement; graphics, controls, music, camera, framerate, move-set, etc.

[@ProjectGameVault]

That Mario golf transition about graphics was super smooth

[@humanice2]

The opinions of those who hated the Gamecube are automatically invalid, it had the best games, especially for fans of horror, Eternal Darkness, Resident Evil Remake, 0 and 4 exclusivity the first year (PS2 users got a downgraded version), then there were the absolute bangers; Metroid Prime, F-Zero GX and Melee, and the 4 player version of Timesplitters 2. It was the most played console in my home, PS2 didn't have 4 player multiplayer. Same goes for N64, it had the most bad ass 4 player FPS in the console market at the time.. PS1 and PS2 were for loners.

[@jamwilson98]

Just got into your videos and this is the first one I can watch when it’s new. Love your videos, keep up the good content!

[@mausmalone]

I wholeheartedly agree with that little bit in the middle where you mention how huge the leap is from N64 to GC graphically. It's easy to forget because it's all just "old" now but my jaw dropped to the floor the first time I saw Wave Race Blue Storm running on a kiosk at the mall - and I'd already played plenty Dreamcast and PS2 at that point. But it's easy to forget that the N64 was a HUGE jump from the SNES and even the PS1 and Saturn (at least at first, it's complicated). Likewise, Mario 64 on the Toys R Us kiosk is like a core memory at this point.

[@wallyrocket87]

Hilarious as always, keep up the great content dude! Great video 😎

[@roberto1519]

I never owned a N64, but my brothers and I had the Saturn and the PS, while I did play the N64 a few times at some friends at the time. Maybe it's because we were teens, we just found all these video games amazing, also PCs with Win 95/98 were just intriguing and did many things that were new to us, hey, can you write and print text, can you also play Time Commando and Duke Nukem 3D on this thing? I actually remember thinking how well we could control Mario with that analog stick, and we also played Goldeneye, even South Park and Bomberman 64. We were just happy kids. My heart goes to the Saturn, and the PS1 just kept on giving sequels and exclusives past the 00's. Even as early as 2003, consoles such as the NES, SMS, SNES and Mega Drive were really cool, we all played them and had lots of fun. During the early years of the 6th gen, we could only dream of getting a PS2 or GameCube, so we watched gaming channels and enjoyed what we could see. Today, people have a keyboard at their reach and they like to type what they don't enjoy in life.

[@wettuga2762]

Why choose?!? If I were a kid and my parents said they could only buy me one console, sure. But I'm an adult and I have all the consoles I want, including those two! My decisions come down to "what console/game do I feel like playing next?" 😀

[@hdroid18]

Hell ya dude! My thoughts exactly! 🤘

[@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852]

The N64 felt like it was missing something. I had one and buying games for it was difficult. everyone I knew had the same few games

[@Totavier]

Probably in my case I would go with the GameCube. Don't get me wrong, I love the N64 and I have so many great memories on it but unfortunately almost all the games that I played on that console were pretty much rentals of a video store, there was so many good games that I managed to beat it but others don't. With the GameCube was the contrary, I finally could start to buy and own games on it and take all my time into it, loved to death in spend hundred of hours on Animal Crossing, F-Zero GX, Luigi's Mansion and Super Smash Bros Melee along with other titles.

[@t_rex1780]

Resident Evil Remake, Resident Evil.Zero, and Resident Evil 4 all debuted on the GCN. It's hard to believe given where that franchise is at these days but the GCN wins for that, in my opinion, along with the fact that the console's graphics have aged a lot better than the it's predecessor's.

[@inceptional]

I'd likely rather play games on the GameCube today, but the N64 definitely gets the win in terms of how just revolutionary and satisfying it was relative to it's time. All the GameCube games felt very underwhelming to me back in the day, especially all the first and second party entries in popular and beloved franchises, whereas so many N64 games genuinely blew me away at the time and saw many hours of play. The N64 felt magical and was objectively around during and part of one of the biggest paradigm shifts the gaming industry has ever seen. The GameCube just felt like a pretty typical next generation console, and worse than that actually didn't leave me as satisfied as the Xbox from Microsoft. Now that's just embarrassing for Nintendo that it could beat Microsoft with its first entry into the industry imo. The same thinking applies to thr controllers too, with the N64 one being revolutionary at the time, and the GameCube one, while very comfortable, actually felt a little disappinting compared to the Xbox's S controller and the PlayStation 2 controller. So yeah, N64 was mindblowing and magical. GameCube was very solid and all but also just kinda meh for most part imo.

[@MyKnees3539]

I have always thought the gamecube had a better library, basically being better sequels to the best n64 games, except for the 2 series where it arguably mattered most. Mario Sunshine and the Zeldas on gamecube always felt like a step down from their n64 counterparts to me, but everything else got better. F-Zero, Mario Party, Mario Sports, Mario Kart, and Smash Bros all improved. Add in games like Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil, Chibi Robo, and Monkey Ball all help to make the GameCube library head and shoulders above the n64 overall to me.

[@MrDrBoi]

Great video, love your content! And I love both consoles, but the N64 has always been my preference. Paper Mario, Majora's Mask, Diddy Kong Racing, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Mario Party 2 & 3, WWF No Mercy, so many good games I could go on and on.

[@dahubbzgaming]

N64 was my nostalgic console. I did not spend a lot of time growing up with the Gamecube (too busy playing that sweet PS2). However, in my adult life I have spent more time playing Gamecube than maybe any other console. That whole era is just really awesome. So, I give the edge to Gamecube, but love them both.

[@inspica380]

Me looking at old photo of retrobird: "I wish I had a hat like that!" Lol Great video. I like your tactics regading making sure nobody bad-talks bananas in front of you.

[@rubadubmedia]

Bird! Do you ever watch Regular Car Reviews? Your guys’ humor is PEAK!

[@HyperBlueWolf]

Space Station Silicon Valley was my most played game on the N64.... Although the N64 and GameCube are two consoles that I never really "loved" owning.

[@rotallyPumpered]

Absolutely GameCube for me. I got mine around 2003, and pretty much every new game I bought for it seemed like a real cut above any equivalent for any other console I'd played. It's what made me a Nintendo fan. I have some very fond memories of Double Dash, Smash Bros Melee and SoulCalibur II. Nintendo really had 3D design figured out at that point, and were able to produce first-party games more frequently, but it's Capcom's support for the console that knocks it out of the park for me. There's little that can compete with my first times through the Resident Evil remake, Resident Evil 4 and killer7. Absolute golden child console, for me. The N64 had Ocarina of Time, and I'll always have a certain respect for it because of that, but it doesn't come close to how much affection I have for the GameCube.

[@divinecomedian2]

Never owned a GameCube. Im starting to emulate now and have a few GC on my list. I'm starting with Pikmin because it always looked neat to me.

[@COIFISHGAMING]

The humor and B Roll champion of the world. Have a banana!

[@gentlesirpancakebottoms6692]

Never owned any Nintendo console personally. I was more of a PC guy and my first console was the PS2. But I do remember the NT64 and I don't remember anybody, nor have I met anybody which have bad things to say about the NT64 in person. Except for the limitations of the cartridge format perhaps. I remember the Gamecube getting a ton of shit. But my impression is that the very same people respect, and appreciate it more today. It was at the wrong place at the wrong time and have aged like wine apparently:P

[@AwakenedPhoenix309]

The overall library on the GameCube is better without question. The question is - do you want a smaller number of absolutely top tier titles with a largely forgettable library outside of those, or do you want a much more well-rounded library with some good but oddball entries in major series? Mario Sunshine is my least favorite 3D Mario game next to Odyssey. I'm not sure which one I'd place lower. I know I am definitely in the minority on that opinion; Odyssey bored me to tears (I think the ease of acquiring moons as well as the sheer number of them took all the joy out of finding and collecting them for me), and Sunshine is really fun in spots and really glitchy and tedious in others. Meanwhile, Mario 64 remains one of my favorites in the series. If I was choosing solely on that - N64 wins. But the GameCube has a good enough Mario game with a whole bunch of other platformers that are still worth playing today, whereas the N64, being early 3D - most platformers not made by Nintendo or Rare aren't worth putting up with the jank for whatever fun they offer. The N64 has OoT and Majora's Mask, two of the best games in the entire Zelda series. Wind Waker and Twilight Princess stack up against them admirably - I'd even say Twilight Princess is better than OoT. But I would still choose the N64 titles over the GameCube ones. I think Twilight Princess is better than OoT, but OoT is more replayable. The cutscenes go by faster and there's less tedium in terms of what I consider tedious. (The wolf battles get old as they're all fought the exact same way.) But - GameCube also has Beyond Good and Evil and Starfox Adventures. I have options outside of Zelda for getting more of that kind of experience. The N64 has nothing that compares to Pikmin. Smash Bros Melee clearly stomps the original. The GameCube actually has some RPGs outside of Paper Mario, and in my opinion, it has the best Paper Mario game that was ever released. And as far as I'm concerned - Double Dash stomps Mario Kart 64. I don't like FPS games at all. The ones I have played and gotten some enjoyment out of were all released after two analog sticks became the standard. I never played Golden Eye or Perfect Dark and I won't start now. The GameCube's lack of shooters doesn't matter to me at all. When it comes to games that do focus heavily on shooting in some way - Resident Evil 4 is still absolutely fantastic, and Metal Arms is a game that won me over because of its humor and atmosphere. I can only play one console for the rest of my life and these are my two options? GameCube. I can play whatever I want outside of these two consoles and I have to eliminate one of them? I'd keep the N64.

[@TenOfZero1]

I never played the game cube, I really should try and give that a go.

[@XpRnz]

Can be perfectly emulated on pc too! Very playable.

[@grawman67]

Highly recommend it. It's easily emulated or played for cheap if you get a GameCube or Wii

[@HollywoodGaming-fy3vt]

As a bloke named Tim, I use invisible controllers all the time

[@Lafayette_Ronald_Hubbard]

I had both as a kid and still love both, could never decide for a winner. But I have to admit that nowadays I'm picking up the GameCube more often. Currently playing Chibi Robo, an absolute gem of a game! This was a great episode!

[@TehZergRush]

Some of the greatest and most important games ever made were released on the 64, but as far as overall quality of the entire library I think it's hard to argue against the Gamecube. Love these systems and have great memories of playing both!

[@ShonenJump121]

Oh poor Timmy, he'll never recover. .

[@koldking]

Easily in my top five consoles of all time, with nearly all of my favorite games ever made spread out between them both

[@colt5189]

Dang, that yearbook photo. Haha.

[@JustAnotherDude1986]

AKI Wrestling Games: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?!? WCW vs NWO Revenge, WWF WrestleMania 2000, WWF No Mercy. 'nuff said.

[@mariogirod6195]

The good thing about the game cube is that is it is also built in too many Wii consoles. That helps offset the lower sales of the original console.

[@laws282]

Literally one of the best gaming channels on KZbin! Enjoy your poop party.

[@Vulpas]

N64 is more nostalgic but NGC has a better library, though both are very good.

[@superdave3093]

Man good topic! I have a soft spot for both. N64 was right near the end of my High School days and GC was my second year in College. For me it’s still gonna be GameCube but sadly it also got robbed out of my college house when I slept and my GBA and games too 😢 And then I didn’t get a replacement GameCube for like 3 years I think.. and by then the Wii was about to come out so yeah, that was a strange time in my life AND for gaming as a whole!! 😬 P.s. does the peel of the naners taste good? Do you eat them a lot that way!? 😂😂

[@hughmyers8583]

N64. Goldeneye, Mario 64, Starfox, Ocarina of Time, and Perfect Dark cannot be beaten.

[@DonaldGaron]

For Me, Gamecube is the better system but it's mainly because of Smash Bros Melee and other multiplayer games like Mario Strikers and Def Jam Fight for NY. Other games we played a lot were the Sonic games, Animal Crossing, the Zelda games (of course), LOTR, Paper Mario... I prefer the N64 Zelda games and 3D Marios over the Gamecube ones, but when it comes to the other games I prefer the Gamecube. Controllers : I prefer the Gamecube one as well but I don't mind the N64 controller at all. I like it.

[@wardrich]

7:45 hold the heck up... Do people- can- should I even try... 👀 😂

[@FairyKid64]

That's true. Back on the playground the N64 was viewed as a really cool console, while the GCN was often viewed as a console for kids.

[@ben501st]

Both are great but I'm going to give it to the GameCube for two reasons. 1) it doesn't require a hardware accessory to fully enjoy all its games. 2) it stood up against tougher competition and survived. GCN fought against the juggernaut that is the PS2 and later the revolutionary Xbox.

[@christopher1989ish]

U used to use my n64 controller to pretend and play with it like it was a hell cat from wing commander...lol

[@QueenViolet8]

Alright 👍 new video!It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood!

[@jayjones9225]

Nintendo 64’s top tier is up there with any system’s in terms of all-time classics. Goldeneye, Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Super Smash, Mario Cart 64, Starfox and more

[@VenjerSixx.]

I slept in a pool of banana peels until this weeks video

[@HeavenlyKnight96]

Wow, you as kid looked like you had Guile's hair. I wanted it so much as a kid. Thank you for showing me it's awful in reality.

[@mariomarioblog]

I prefer the N64. For me Mario64 > Mario Sunshine / Mario Kart 64 > Double Dash / F-Zero X > GX / 1080° > 1080 avalanche/ Wave Race > Wave Race GC / StarFox 64 > StarFox Adventure. This sequels are, of course, more beautiful ...but less fun !

[@mariomarioblog]

@@YourChannel-r4v I love the 2, and this time the license doesn't give me the impression that it's the same old recipe, just with prettier 3d and more complex controls.

[@tommytsunamy]

I love both but the GameCube slightly more because of the Gameboy adapter! Also, maybe for a future video idea we can discuss frame rate now vs then. We didn't care as much then and still had a blast playing

[@Crazy_Gamer_OG]

Turok 3 is probably one of the best looking games on the N64, only issue is that it's FPS is usually under 20. Still, a great game. Probably the only game to have both mocap & voice acting.

[@RetroBirdGaming]

The trend of videos measuring frame rate counts is what really got that going.

[@DrGreenfun]

Fun fact the artificial banana flavor is what bananas used to taste like. I know it has nothing to do with video games but I wonder if retrobird knows this.

[@RetroBirdGaming]

Yeah, I've seen this brought up here and there :)

[@braves4life25]

Having had every Nintendo console including the virtual boy .. GameCube wins this one easy.., the variety of games is no match plus sonic!!! On a Nintendo system?! I never thought I’d see it.

[@Blas4ublasphemy]

dual analog sticks and analog triggers allowed for better controls in 1st and 3rd person 3D titles and racing games, the storage medium allowed for great ports of fighting games and looking at the small graphical difference between TTYD on GC and the recent Switch release just shows how incredibly advanced it was for the time.

[@brichan1851]

This is cut from answering the question a few days ago when asked in anticipation of this video: “I am a MUCH bigger ‘Cube fan than an N64 one. The 64 has its place and deserves respect. The problem with it is there are only a small handful of 64 games that I consider “must own” titles. Seriously, if they released an N64 Mini, I’d get it and I’d probably be more than satisfied with the 20 games on it. I can maybe name 15 that I really care about. Everything else that released was garbage back in the late 90’s, and certainly hasn’t aged well, today. I know for certain because I was there when the N64 first released. Now the ‘Cube is a very under rated system. It has a lot more appreciation, today, over when it first released, but I loved my GameCube as soon as I got it, back in 2002/2003. Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2, Legend of Zelda(s) Wind Waker, 4 Swords, and Twilight Princess along with the Zelda discs that contained past Zelda games on them, F-Zero-GX, Luigi’s Mansion, Eternal Darkness (God, that was a good game), Mario Sunshine, Animal Crossing, Sonic Adventures 1+2, Crazy Taxi, Skies of Arcadia, along with a second chance for many other Dreamcast titles, Ikaruga, Soul Calibur II (WITH LINK!!!!), Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, Star Fox Adventures, the GameBoy Advance add-on, and many other games. It was a beast!” One other additional thing is the GameBoy Advance reader and direct connectivity with the GBA for games like the aforementioned Legend of Zelda Four Swords and Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles. That was an amazing innovation that prompted brand loyalty so people would be encouraged to own both Nintendo systems at the time. When comparing the two, the choice is quite simple (just as it was when both systems were current); the GameCube is far superior to the N64 and a lot more fun to return to nowadays. I liken this to my jumping back to the 8-Bit/16-Bit days; I’ll take the Super Nintendo over the NES a good 70% of the time. The N64 and NES are very important systems. They laid the groundwork for so much we have today. I just feel both of their successors refined that groundwork to make for a much more enjoyable experience to play, both then and now.

[@jaretco6423]

Don't forget Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, Pikmin & Super Smash Bros. Melee.

[@brichan1851]

@@jaretco6423 the games I listed were not meant to be the limit of what the GameCube had to offer. The Cube was just awesome and full of games that we all could love. Let’s also not forget all of the 3rd party games that made it to GameCube… Resident Evil 4, Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes, Timesplitters 2, Beyond Good and Evil, Prince of Persia, Capcom vs. SNK 2 Evo, Mega Man Collection, Harvest Moon… the list goes on and on.

[@CassiDS]

4:04 That's not just _a_ worn-out stool - 'tis *the* worn-out stool.