MIYOO FLIP REVIEW | Great, But Also Kinda Bad

[@Mdg87]

Retrobreeze at over 16k subscribers, i remember watching all your videos helping me install onion os on my miyoo mini, i think you were under 1k back then! Good jorb!

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Thank you so very much for sticking with me this long 🙂 so much has changed, but so much is the same !

[@-Halil]

yeah just thought the same

[@fletcherchambers7175]

"Generic Plumber Platformer" makes me laugh.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

That's the game!

[@AnthonyNeumanxx]

​@RetroBreezeYT does it come preloaded? And where to buy? 😮🎉

[@ericitchyd2311]

My hinge is much quieter than yours, no snap sound, no sandy feeling. Your screen is better than mine. Mine has a little light leak in the bottom right.

[@biggie009]

Mine was loud at first. The more you open/close it, it gets quieter.

[@Cujobob]

My screen is great and the hinge feels great. Zero light bleed. My only concern is that having multiple positions might make it less durable, but I base this on nothing. TBH, this is a perfect handheld for me. If the hinges prove to hold up for a while, I’ll probably buy a few more on an AliE sale.

[@ericitchyd2311]

@@biggie009 now that you say that mine was the same way. A bit clickety as I opened it for a few days then it settled down.

[@RetroGamingWithDeadfred]

My yellow unit is also loud, as shown in my first 24-hour video.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I keep hearing that about the hinge. Maybe mine will break in!

[@Chalexim]

I'm glad you found things you really enjoyed about this handheld! For me, the hinge is absolutely inexcusable. This is a device built primarily for opening and closing that hinge, and that's a big selling point for it, I couldn't believe how bad it functioned and sounded in person. My wife said it reminded her of an old broken flip phone she had when she was younger haha. I did decide to return it.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I totally get and respect it. It is really bad. Like, really, really bad. Every time I open it, I remember how bad it is, but then I start playing and I forget again!

[@manuelrodriguez9972]

I got the yellow version this week, I can’t wait to get my hands on it.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Congrats! I'm sure you'll love it!

[@deathscreton]

I'm really hoping they stock the gray or black soon. Yellow is nice, but I know i wouldn't be happy with the color.

[@davidtharp2125]

Such a thorough review that I thought I actually purchased it myself for a second…

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Glad to hear it 🙂

[@tfeatherstone]

Mine just turned up today and the hinge is exactly the same as yours. Feels really bad unfortunately.

[@BoKnowsGaming]

Great review! I heard they’re refining the hinge and should have it fixed in a month or two. Really glad to see the stock OS working so well though!

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Kind of crazy to be in development for years and of all things the hinge needs refining after launch...

[@BoKnowsGaming]

@@RetroBreezeYT I agree. You'd think the hinge would be the first thing they figured out for a device like this.

[@waldamy]

By the way, PSP games have quite a bit of 3:2 and 4:3 aspect ratio cheats, so you can often have the game fill the full screen without any cutoff or stretching.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Good tip! I'll try that out sometime!

[@crystal_is_cozy]

It's very pretty in the SNES colorway.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Thanks Crystal! It's definitely my favourite of the available colours.

[@E.Cristian7]

Retro Breeze always with a breeze review for us. Thanks for the video and the sincerity. People tends to be too hyped for some stuff as this one, I personally love Miyoo I have 2 MM+ (I had 3 A30 but it sucked hard and I got rid of them). Even if the Flip is more powerful, I prefer the ergonomics of my 35XX SP. If I need analog sticks I play with another retro handheld of my collection.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Thank you very much for your great comment and for watching! 😄

[@Kevin-Schmevin]

Great job making an honest and useful review

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Thank you very much for tuning in!

[@turnbasedtoddy7664]

I love your review videos man. I think you are up there with Russ from retro game core. I just need you to do some more reviews please! Maybe the TrimUI brick? 😅

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Thank you, that is a great honour! I have the Brick in my hand right now and ready to review! More on the way!

[@elemileTLDR]

Thanks, great review. SNES-themed consoles are always pretty... it was partly what made me decide getting a RP4 Pro.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I loved my "cold grey" Odin and I love the grey flip as well. This is actually the only colour of the Flip that I like!

[@Bistec.Ranchero]

Will you be interested in using GammaOS on the Miyoo Flip? I feel like I'm going to wait for a Horizontal Dual Analog Stick Miyoo. Stacked Triggers Too.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Yes! Can't wait to try it out! However, I do also like the stock OS to be honest.

[@adinwalls]

I present to you one of the masters of the video essay style review... So very well done!

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Thanks Adin! That means a lot!

[@SonicLoveEmulation]

Looks great ans super excited to get my hands on it.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I think you'll enjoy it!

[@SonicLoveEmulation]

@RetroBreezeYT for me ots the screen and controls, that I will like the most...shame about the build quality of the hinge man. I am hoping over time it will hold up though, even though it's a little rough around the edges.

[@JessicaFEREM]

might be able to drip some grease into the hinge to lubricate it and make it feel less awful. and ofc over time it'll probably wear down and sound less jank.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Good idea!

[@davidclement5665]

great video and I liked the game you showed on it called Super Mario 64 that's my favorite n64 game and thankyou for showing the video 😊🕹🎮☕🎉

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Thanks for watching! Morio? Never heard of 'em!

[@davidclement5665]

@RetroBreezeYT yeah you know Super Mario 64

[@KaWouter_]

I never heard of that game, only Plumber Platformer 64

[@MohkieHazSquids]

Shhhh, its "Generic Plumber game"

[@RetroGamingWithDeadfred]

Great video, shem. I have had some similar outcomes with my yellow unit

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Thanks for watching!

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Good to know!

[@shylocutus]

great review, mine is on the way, cant wait to try it out

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Let me know what you think!

[@ben-tendo]

Mine will be with me in a few days, and am looking forward to GammaOS becoming a public release to fix some of the issues the stock OS has.

[@thepianocian]

I also had a bad experience with my first Miyoo Flip which had a super floppy hinge that wouldn’t even fully close. It was also loud and clicky like someone slapping me in the face every time I opened or closed it. I also had really bad left analog stick drift where it gets “stuck” in the up position randomly, even after recalibration. Having said that, I got my second one today and it has NONE of those issues. The hinge is as solid as my 35xxSP and there is no stick shift at all. It feels much more reliable and less loud/clicky/sandy when it opens and closes. I think this is what Miyoo wanted, not the first one… This just goes to show that the intent is an amazing device but that QA process…. needs work

[@kirbydadragon]

How is the audio out of the headphone jack? It was absolutely terrible with the Miyoo Mini plus, way too quiet. Also can it charge via usbc to usbc and laptop power bricks? worrying about using the correct kind of charger was one of the biggest problems i had with the miyoo mini plus as well.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I haven't tried the headphone jack yet, but using a correct USB-A to C cable is definitely required!

[@dustyr112]

Excellent review, mate! Very disappointed to hear about the hinge, and all the more bummed to learn of the Vita sticks. :[ Hoping the hinge issue is addressed as production continues! 👏👏👏

[@deadox]

I use right analogue stick for rewind/fast forward shortcut in RA when I can, so the inclusion here is actually quite an upside for me.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

That's amazing idea! I might do that myself!

[@nickmorgs]

We can always trust Shem for a more balanced assessment. Thanks.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Thank you very much, I'm glad you think so!

[@MichaelTamGP]

The hinge is completely fine. The snaps are obviously indents in the internal mechanism that allows it to hold the four positions (three open, and closed). I'm not sure why the author thinks that the noise is from flexing in the shell at the hinge.

[@TheJustinReus]

Yeah - I’ve had 4 Nintendo 3DS’s that all have this exact hinge mechanism/function. It feels perfectly fine to me.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I know that click you're talking about, and it's here too. The snapping I'm referring to is specifically not that when you close the device. You can see in the video that the hinge plastic flexes open and closed- no way that should happen!

[@muhdzaidi3051]

This is the third youtuber I saw making fun of Nintendo game, specifically Mario 64. Keep it going!😂

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Morio? Who's that?

[@FS-zt6tm]

this device's success hinges on that hinge...with all the delays and they couldn't even get that right...I might have to pass or at least wait for an iteration that addresses these issues. Glad I held off on getting this at launch

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Interesting that some people are saying that their hinge is better... I might need to pick up another and compare!

[@FS-zt6tm]

@@RetroBreezeYT if yours is just a one off then that's good news but still, the way that hinge cracks/snaps into the different angles just doesn't sound right (which from all the reviews I've watched seems to be the intended design of the hinge). I can deal with software issues (since custom OS should fix like every other miyoo device) which this seems to have a lot of right out the gate.

[@Genguts]

Gamma OS is actually going to be available on this thing. Which will make it a fantastic companion handheld for my Odin.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Can't wait to try it out!

[@lookingforwookiecopilot]

Why does a clamshell need a case?

[@RetroBreezeYT]

To protect the parts that aren't the screen or buttons

[@RockYoMomsWorld]

That snapping noise is definitely not from the plastic like you say it is, the hinge just has large detents, to hold the screen firmly in position. Every 3ds model has a very loud hinge like this, and mine is still holding up perfectly after tens of thousands of folds over the past decade. I’m sure this hinge will be just fine

[@waldamy]

Yeah, I think some of the problems might be fixed by the next batch, but I also believe it's better to wait until v2, or even v3. Maybe by v4 they'll even add C-to-C charging, as they did with the Miyoo Mini. At least if they manage to survive that far. Dreams wild dreams. At least my MM v2 still works well, I can wait.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

There are definitely a bunch of QoL fixes that I can imagine. I'd like the charging port swapped to the back as well.

[@waldamy]

@RetroBreezeYT would definitely be a good option for a docking scenario.

[@talcumx2124]

Can It play game cube?

[@tonyha9059]

Really? Really?

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Absolutely not

[@EliHank]

😂😂

[@noelmunoz2571]

Yeah the hinge on mine is the same. Gotta open it carefully each time to preserve it 😅

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Hopefully it'll break in rather than just break!

[@Papabears_2nd_rate_art]

I would love for you to try out the white one. It feels so much better than the yellow and grey.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I'll try and pick one up!

[@Niindles]

I have the white one, and it feels the exact same as this grey one with the bad hinge. It seems that some people have got the same hardware seen in dev units - appears to be just a complete gamble 😞

[@sabd9694]

My hinge sounds nothing like that, mine is smooth and not loud and works perfectly

[@RetroBreezeYT]

You're not the only one to say this!

[@SSuperC]

Not having the charge port also in the back is going to be annoying for "consolizing" it.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Good point, that is annoying!

[@erraddict]

Would you mind testing out Peace Walker on PSP with the higher fps codes? 30 or 60

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I did this today- Unfortunately I'm not able to get over around 20 - 25 FPS, which with the hacks makes it run kind of in slow motion. I don't think the 3566 chip is quite enough for high-end PSP.

[@Mbuna92]

I think your hinge is broken, mine doesn't do that

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I've heard that a few times! I'll grab another one some time and compare.

[@MrSongib]

ive more concern on the hinge than the joystick xd

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Definitely!

[@SahabatGamer-r7f]

Yes, Virtua Fighter 5 REVO is s must buy

[@RetroBreezeYT]

MUST! BUY!

[@intenseretrogaming]

Every time someone says analog sticks are good for shmups, an unicorn dies :) Jokes aside, to play really well with precision, one needs quality digital input, which is present on the Flip: the d-pad. People enjoy playing with analog sticks because they resemble the arcade ones, but arcade sticks are digital, not analog. The function is completely different. Analog sticks have partial movement, which hinder precision and will make you die A LOT if you're playing seriously to clear a game with limited continues or trying to get a high score. Blazing Star could be more manageable if you played with the d-pad.

[@ejpmonline]

Probably more retro gamers would prefer the miyoo flip now that gamma os core is available.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I gotta try it!

[@pipedream690]

If/when Onion OS comes out this will be almost perfect.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Absolutely! Trying to get the scoop on Onion

[@jonathonearl482]

The V90 rules!

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I didn't like it at first, but it's solidified as a legend at this point!

[@RockYoMomsWorld]

Unless you want to play SNES or GBA at a full frame rate😂

[@OgbWinter]

Overall I am torn on this review. Something’s you’re on point while others I would disagree with. I really think the hinges are fine. Load… yes slightly elevated. Either you have an amazing mic or mine isn’t that loud. I personally think the hinge is better than RG35xx SP because the more I used it the worst it got. I think the SP has their hinge too loose in my opinion. Overtime and lots of use it is not the same.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I do think that the hinge is stiffer than the SP. That's interesting about it wearing down over time. I can't imagine the Flip hinge getting any better though. I've heard that other people don't have the snapping issue.

[@OgbWinter]

@ love your videos buddy! Keep it up!

[@RockYoMomsWorld]

I’m with you. People seem to be forgetting how loud the 3ds hinge is, and those have held up fine for a decade

[@Johntriger]

5:20 Vita caps on switch sticks really. Probably can slap some normal sticks. I would love someone to try a gulikit. My Miyoo a30 smoked my guilkit sticks. Wonder if the same would happen to this console. Guessing they would contact the screen if you tried shutting it.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Yeah I think space was the issue. Gamma has put full Switch caps on his though!

[@humanerror7]

I received my sp like 1 month before this thing dropped and was kind of choked...because I really wish I had just one analog stick. But at least I got the v2 sp with the upgraded buttons, never had an issue there But at the end of the day, I have more retro games than I can ever play on my sp, so I won't give in to the desire to get the latest and greatest. So easy to get caught up in that. The anbernic sp does everything I wanted it to do. If I was going to shell out for a device with analog sticks, I'd want it to be able to play gamecube games.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

That's fair! Sticks are definitely a bonus.

[@jobearesto9746]

Half life the ride at the beginning takes you. Through the whole game levels. After that you get into it. You can if you want let it run then do the save state there.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I know, I was just joking around 😉 it's on my list to play!

[@jobearesto9746]

Ah lol sorry, bit of a half life fan.

[@lovelydumpling]

This would be instant buy..... if it was like 20 bucks cheaper 😭

[@jeremy__hopkins]

It'll most likely get there as future batches are released and with coupons. Miyoo always seems to have the early adopter charge with new hardware because people remember the Mini.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I have no doubt that within a couple of months it'll be almost half the price, Typical Miyoo launch!

[@RetroBreezeYT]

They most certainly do.

[@lovelydumpling]

@@RetroBreezeYT I think that depends on how well it sells. The A30 dropped in price pretty hard largely because it was critically panned and didn't sell very well. The Miyoo Mini and Mini+ stayed full price for far longer- hell they straight up couldn't make enough Miyoo Minis, every batch was selling out in seconds.

[@Pridetoons]

I'm just waiting for Rocknix and Portmaster Support.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Portsmaster works on ES I believe (but I might be wrong). Rocknix would be good, but at least Gamma is coming!

[@sm0k3yg]

That d pad kills it for me I had a retro handheld when I held Y to run the d pad would kill the left direction. 😤

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Thankfully it seems to have mostly worked itself out on mine. I really feel like something got stuck in my d-pad that has since come out.

[@Stunnax757]

Absolutely

[@PurpleKnightmare]

What do you mean two USB-C one for charge, one for power.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

One for charge, one for peripherals*

[@Stunnax757]

The a30 is amazing for sub 30$ pocket machine

[@RetroBreezeYT]

10000%. Love both of mine!

[@dabman9688]

Wheres the good miyoo dpad we all love?

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Good question! I guess they had to go smaller due to the form factor.

[@Papabears_2nd_rate_art]

I have the white model and the yellow model. The white model is far superior in quality compared to the yellow. Far better plastic. The hinge on the white model does not click. It feels perfect. The yellow hinge actually came misaligned. Opening it completely and closing it completely over and over again realigned the hinge and now it works fine. Im just not a fan of the plastic on the yellow. I also have the black model on the way and have heard its made of the same plastic as the white model. This will be the one i end up using. The Flip will get MUCH better over time, just like the rest.of these devices. Dont sell it short.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I think it will get better over time as well!

[@BoochWorld87]

You got a lemon my bwoy!😅

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Perhaps

[@justchan2443]

Give me the Onion OS experience, please, random developers.

[@jakesmith5278]

I would buy this for tons and tons and tons of arcade games. Many of them use thumbstick. Vita and Joycon's sticks are garbage. It's the main reason I don't care for the Anbernic's xxsp. A real shame.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Yeah arcade is a really good use for this one.

[@iamnotyourbuddyGUY]

Yes and yes.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

It is what it is!

[@killertofu]

My hinge snapped on day 1 at the end of the night.... wtf smh

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Ouch! Definitely contact your seller for a replacement!

[@mb80143]

My black Miyoo flip arrived yesterday and I LOVE IT. Currently using it to play my some of my favorite games and TV shows. Super excited for more cfw options! Thanks for sharing - please keep the Miyoo Flip content coming!

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I'm playing Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 32X on mine. Fantastic!

[@mb80143]

@RetroBreezeYT Fun choice! 😁

[@MonalissS2]

I miss the “ultimate switch lite” series 😓😓😓😓

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Unfortunately hit a snag or two that will take a bit of time to fix, and just kind of mad at the whole shipping and release process for the OLED 😅 I actually have it though, I just need to fix some things on the motherboard before I install it.

[@MonalissS2]

@RetroBreezeYT yeeeyy, I'm very anxious

[@JuhoSprite]

This vs the RG40XX v

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Literally could not be two more different devices than those lol

[@JuhoSprite]

​@@RetroBreezeYT im not asking for a video but I'm asking just for a reply. what do you think. Also wdym widely different? well obviously one is a flip, but like both have a stick. I'm just asking overall which one is probably more worth it, and also performance wise.

[@Pridetoons]

Wait hold on, so your telling me Powkiddy makes a better hinge!?

[@RetroBreezeYT]

The V90 hinge is probably better 😅

[@ericitchyd2311]

​@@RetroBreezeYTI've literally never heard of a broken v90 hinge.

[@MrEliwankenobi]

Subbed

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Thank you so much!

[@bangdingow1414]

It's getting Onion OS.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Source?

[@bangdingow1414]

@@RetroBreezeYT One of the Onion devs on Reddit.

[@Treychik]

nope..the hinge is killing it :(

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I've heard a few people that don't have the problem. I might grab another to compare.

[@igniatesch9664]

Nothing with this screen is “amazing”. It’s not getting very bright, has a green tint and also doesn’t look color rich in particular. Make comparisons.

[@RM1ne]

Please say "you're despicable"

[@RetroBreezeYT]

"you're deSCHPicableth

[@realgenghiskhan]

im tired of buying half-baked chinese handhelds

[@spartaninvirginia]

Theres a solution. Don't.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

That's fair

[@RockYoMomsWorld]

Don’t let the door hit you on your way out

[@theinvisibleman-e8v]

That hinge is trash, d pad broken. Not a good start.

[@CDubya.82]

'generic plumber platformer"!? Its Super Mario 64! Nintendo police will get you if they want to even if you try and hide the name of the game.

[@CDubya.82]

PS you're worried about 'copyrighted ports' but hide from Nintendo when emulating their copyrighted works?

[@RetroBreezeYT]

I'm making a fun poke at the situation ;)

[@CDubya.82]

@@RetroBreezeYT Guess the humor was lost on me 😉 Trust me I'm not on Nintendo's side on this one.

[@Али-я7л]

Nice overview, but, down voted because talked shit about half-life

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Just joking around, but many share your sentiment! I guess I should give it a proper go!

[@EliHank]

I think you received a dud dude.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

Mayhaps

[@romanreigns5796]

10:05

[@Cujobob]

My hinge feels better than the one on my RG35XXSP. That model is odd, it flexes beyond its one position, but doesn’t stay in position. The Flip has multiple positions and they feel rock solid. Mine doesn’t make a loud noise, but I did see one other person on Reddit mention theirs was. The screen on my model is beautiful. Perfect, so perfect I’m shocked. I thought it would be a downgrade from the MM+ and it’s probably an upgrade. I put MinUI on mine and the black levels were amazing. If anyone out there can get a good one off the production line, they should be happy. Hopefully the hinge holds up.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

That's really good to hear. I think I'll pick up another at some point and see if my hinge was just a duff one. Now that you mention it, you're absolutely right- I totally understated the screen. It is absolutely gorgeous!

[@brennanIX]

I just can't wrap my head around these design choices... these are NOT mass market devices. They are niche enthusiast devices. You don't need every single one every released. You need like 3, at MOST. A cheap compact one 8/16 bit one and expensive universal one, and maybe a flip or mini, more specialized one. There's no real reason to have more than that. So, given that fact, why do they try to make these things dirt cheap like everyone NEEDS to be able to get one? If you make a genuinely good device that is high quality and serves all the needs, people WILL buy it at a higher price. This honestly turns me off being cheap more than being does. To me, cheap equates to junk, and I'm willing to pay for a quality specialized device, which is exactly what I WANT. The issue is there are always tradeoffs, because companies make these things so cheap and junky, and you're stuck with junk when people would have no problem buying more premium devices, and may be even MORE likely than they would to buy this cheap junk. When i see a device around $75 or less, I expect it to be a piece of junk. Ideally, I'd expect to pay around $100-$150 for a high quality device, and like $150-$250 for a higher end more premium device, and around $80-$100 for a basic 16-bit device that's high quality. I think Retroid and AYN are the leaders in quality devices, with SOME of the Ambernic devices being high quality as well, the ones with T820 chipsets. The Ambernic SP is ACCEPTABLE, but I still think its overly cheap, and id rather pay a few extra bucks if it was a better quality device. Ideally, I'd like the Miyoo flip with a slightly higher build quality than than SP, for around $100-$115. I know it seems odd to complain about things been priced TOO low, but there are obviously downsides that come along with it. I don't need 100 devices, just a few good ones that will perform good and last a long time, but I don't have the option. Either it's an overly cheap junky device, or an overkill too expensive device for retro emulation. I have a $1500 phone, so I really have no desire to buy a high end snapdragon device from Ayaneo, but I don't want a cheap h700 device either with like 1gb ddr3. Something with a SD865 or RK3588, or MTD1100 would be a great balance.

[@charliechrist7537]

$150 I don't think so

[@manuelrodriguez9972]

I paid $79 on Aliexpress.

[@RetroBreezeYT]

$79, and it will almost certainly drop substantially in a couple of months

[@KageChen]

I got it for $50.

[@manuelrodriguez9972]

@@RetroBreezeYTYou are right, but It will take a good amount of time until it drops. So I decided to got it now.

[@manuelrodriguez9972]

@@KageChen With good discounts, but I didn’t have them at the time. I bought it directly from Miyoo Store.