Battle of the Ports - Street Fighter Zero 3 / Alpha 3 (ストリートファイターZERO 3) Show

[@chunkycjw]

The Saturn and the Dreamcast were so under-rated, had them both and loved them. I remember getting my Saturn at launch and telling workmates about Tomb Raider just to get funny looks and being labeled a nerd. A few months down the line the PS1 was released and Tomb Raider and gaming is all anyone could talk about. Well, i'm 44 years old, still play games old and new and still a nerd and proud, even got my daughter into gaming and she appreciates it.

[@RetroCore]

Just like myself although I got the Japanese Saturn in 1995. Not much to play on it back then but I loved it and still do. Like yourself I'm in my early 40s (42) and got my son in to gaming. He's happy to play modern and retro. It's all about the fun factor with him.

[@sudacagamer]

The DC wasn`t an underrated console at all. The Dreamcast sold like pancakes until the PS2 destroyed it.

[@shinbakihanma2749]

Craig Wilson Dude, I'm turning 40 next month, and I owned both the Saturn and Dreamcast. Had a ton of Capcom fighters on both systems. The SEGA platforms were the BEST ways to play 2D fighting games, back then. My enthusiasm for the old Capcom fighters is partially why I'm so disappointed in Capcom's recent Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection. It was such a half assed, piss poor release with next to no effort put into it. It was literally just an arcade ROM dump, with a $40 price tag slapped on it. I'm also to this day, largely disappointed in the Darkstalkers Resurrection release. Capcom did so much many things wrong when they developing it. How do you LEAVE OUT THE VERY FIRST DARKSTALKERS GAME, IN A DARKSTALKERS COLLECTION?! It vexes me to no end. They also just left out the enhanced versions of the games, like Vampire Hunter & Savior 2. It was just, utter laziness and apathy on Capcom's part. They never really cared about the Vampire games in the first place, so I'm not surprised.

[@rustedgearbox7064]

I Recently got a dream cast to play the best version of dark stalkers and mvc2 I it really funny to me how much the Saturn and DC were Capcom dream machines in terms of ac perfect wise

[@Shendue]

Being more 2D-focused, Saturn's library aged better, in fact.

[@shinkazama3959]

This game in a nutshell is pure fighting game perfection, playing 5 & 6 recently just makes me want to go back to this!

[@newtypepunk9967]

I knew the Saturn version would be king, but what impressed me the most was the GBA version, amazing what they pulled off on that thing.

[@RetroCore]

I know. The hardware is quite weak for this type of game but the developers did a great job.

[@gamingguy9006]

@@RetroCore No it is not

[@gamingguy9006]

@@RetroCore they cut too many things from that version

[@COLOFIDUTI]

sega saturn was a 2d BEAST!

[@RetroCore]

It sure was.

[@DanielAyy]

Hell yeah!

[@captaincommando2602]

x4.

[@ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM]

Hell yes!

[@konsolkongendk]

This is such a neat game. It frequently gets a spin in my Saturn when we are having fighting game nights. Always a good time :)

[@RetroCore]

You can't go wrong with the Saturn port.

[@MadPanicGaming]

This is definitely my favorite 2-D fighter of all time. The roster is huge, graphics & sound are amazing, and the gameplay is perfect.

[@hansweiss469]

100% agreed, man. Sucks that the Saturn release is well over 300 U.S. dollars nowadays. Thank god for SSF, Yabause, and the Rhea/Phoebe O.D.E. mods for the Saturn.

[@Tempora158]

Only the Saturn version (and PS2 version) of SFA3 has T. Hawk's backward walking animation. That's how you can tell if the version of SFA3 you're looking at is derived from the PS1 version (missing this animation) or the Saturn version (contains this animation).

[@DragonSlayerKyo]

Yeah. It's VRam constraints. Gief is also missing his backwalk animation in the PS 1 port.

[@Tempora158]

Rob Toohey Zangief does have his backwards walking animation in the PS1 version when fighting himself. However, T. Hawk doesn't have his walk animation at all on the PS1. It's also missing in the Dreamcast version and there definitely is no VRAM constraint there. This is how we know it's a port built on top of the PS1 version.

[@DragonSlayerKyo]

I honestly don't count that as a '99% percentile' since gief vs gief is a mirror match.

[@Tempora158]

The key part is that particular Zangief animation does exist as an asset to be used in the PS1 version for that particular match, while T.Hawk's animation isn't there at all no matter what you do on the PS1 version. That's how you can tell the Dreamcast, Naomi, GBA and PSP version are built on top of the PS1 base, rather than the CPS2 or the Saturn version.

[@totalprocall6894]

The arcade version doesn't have this animation either...in a side note the video also mentions "the saturn is the only offering to have true RGB mode outside of the arcade" that also isnt true in the sense i think he's talking proper 240p video output like the cps2 original. Only the ps1 and saturn output proper 240p meaning all other versions are scaled messy waste of time(not sure about psp screen options though). Only ps1 and saturn versions look correct through an OSSC.

[@NightSprinter]

I swear, to this day, it still sounds like Cammy and the other two dolls are saying "Shit!" when you miss the throw. Also, the last stage of the Dreamcast's "World Tour" mode is such a pain in the arse to beat. The stage is Gokuentou Island (the name of Akuma/Gouki's level), the background is the boss version of Point-48106 (Dictator's level), initial BGM is "Brave or Grave" (Shin Vega/Final Bison theme) or just the regular versions of the leading opponent, and is set up as follows. Stage 1: R. Dramatic Battle (E. Ryu + Akuma/Gouki) Stage 2: Survival (Shin Akuma/Gouki + Vega/M. Bison, 3 enemy stock) Stage 3: R. Dramatic Battle (2x Final Bison/Shin Vega, enemy has Infinite Super Combo Bar). Lose once, and you get the option of "Give Up?". Selecting it takes you to the credits, but beating this level also gives the "Ism Plus" bonus that overall increases your stats. Saving after the credits permanently locks you out of that character save for World Tour.

[@RetroCore]

It really wouldn't surprise me if they were saying Shit. They use the Japanese equivalent of kids anime in Japan.

[@NightSprinter]

Retro Core Oh, yeah. That, and the amusing term "kusoge" for bad games. Also, Alpha/Zero 3 on Dreamcast is NOT compatible with SCART cables or Beharius' VGA boxes when set to 15KHz mode. It will just boot-loop back to the Dreamcast screen. So VGA-only without a patched version on CD-R.

[@irregularhunter0586]

This is still one of my favorite Street Fighters. For hours me and my friends played Tekken Tag and SFA3 on PS2/1, plus MVC2 on Dreamcast.

[@shinkazama3959]

Even in 2020 I'd go as far to say this is still the best 2D fighting game ever made, even over the likes of Marvel VS Capcom 2 & Garou Mark of the Wolves, this game just plays so well!

[@MagisterHamid]

Totally agree. This is the best fighting game ever

[@CrimsonDragoon23]

The Alpha 3 GBA port was done with a 8 MB cart. Could you imaging what more could've been done if they had a 16 MB cart to work with??

[@gabrielloko30000]

It's because the time of release. So yeah, instead of work in a new version for GBA with the 16 MB cart, they passed the port for the PSP. A much more powerful hardware, to say the least

[@RetroCore]

It still wouldn't have been Arcade perfect due to the hardware but it could have included all stages and speech. Still, as it is I think the GBA is a fantastic attempt.

[@Bob_Beaky]

I remember when I first saw the game for the GBA. I bought it but didn't really expect much. It really did impress me when I first switched it on!

[@shinbakihanma2749]

CrimsonDragoon the Gameboy Advance "port" of SF ALPHA 3 was shit. It just is. It barely even resembles anything Street Fighter Alpha 3. I can't even call it a version of SF ALPHA 3, it's so derivative. It looks 8 bit. The Super Nintendo, years prior, had a port of Street Fighter Alpha 2 that looked atleast nearly like Alpha 2 (not counting the inherent shortcomings). It just, makes me chuckle and then kinda groan in agony when I see this gameboy advance version of SFA3.

[@shinbakihanma2749]

jgfjgfify The GBA was nowhere near an upgraded SNES. It wasn't as powerful as a full SNES. The SNES had a version of STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 2 that despite it's shortcomings due to hardware limitations, otherwise looked nearly like SFA2 and played like SFA2. The gameboy advance version of SFA3 looked like an 8bit rendition of the game. There's no way in hell, the Gameboy advance is more powerful than the SNES. IT'S ALL LIES.

[@ReviewUA-jy7xi]

PSP is my favorite. The colors really pop out on this verision.

[@RetroCore]

They sure do, especially you've got the PSP with the better screen. Not sure what the mode number is but fans if the PSP will know.

[@Konuvis]

Man, this takes me back. I had it on PSX and played it a bunch. When it comes to 2D sprites, this is really a gorgeous game.

[@Wourghk]

Wow, the menus are so exciting and colorful. Text flying everywhere, filling borders and giving a sense of hyperactive movement to the whole experience before you even play the game! Why do we have such boring menus in games now?

[@totalprocall6894]

Agreed this game was like a jolt to the senses when you played it...crazy ott announcer, amazing high energy music(best in series for me), and brilliant rich color pallette usage. Amazing game which represents capcom at the very peak of their powers. 1999 for me was all about street fighter zero 3 and silent hill.

[@turbogear7776]

Great one, always loved the art style animation and backgrounds in this series of SF games. Picked up a few over the years but I still need that Saturn port!! Thanks for bringing me back to re-appreciate these titles. 👍👍👍

[@RetroCore]

No worries Turbo Gear 777. It's a shame the Saturn version is so expensive these days.

[@uppercutgrandma4425]

I hated the alpha series graphics at first (I thought it made everyone look like babies and I hated the idea of prequels) but, I found myself not being able to not admire the art style. I think it was the character portraits that made me come to my senses.

[@tra0459]

Sega Saturn for the win. Good old days. Was a pain to get the good games shipped from Japan though.

[@StarFox85]

but it made special..even more

[@Unicoseti]

DC wins

[@zubiac]

the GBA version is not only a technical marvel (given the hardware); it's playability is also superb which is surprising hence the lack of buttons

[@RetroCore]

Agreed.

[@dalton2k538]

That ending music at the end of the video during the side-by-sides was one of the best uses of stereo sound on this iPad Pro I’m using. It sounds absolutely outstanding. Not entirely surprising, as Street Fighter Zero/Alpha 3’s soundtrack and presentation blew away most other fighters then and now. Oh, and Sega Saturn ftw... I wish it wasn’t so expensive to get an original copy of that version.

[@RetroCore]

Nice👍 I do like a nice wide stereo effect myself.

[@DanielAyy]

The intro to Zero 3 is so damn badass! If there's one fighting game intro that gets you pumped, it's Zero 3!

[@DragonSlayerKyo]

The Dreamcast port(and all of the versions based off of it) feature adjusted hitboxes and a tweaked V-ism. So it actually feels like a slightly different game overall. Interesting trivia: There is an incomplete Karin Sprite hidden in the graphic tiles in Marvel Superheroes vs Street fighter on CPS-2. (the sprite in question is mearly an edited Sakura spite. Capcom at this point in time didn't really know what direction they wanted to take her).

[@KingAssRipper69]

nice twilight

[@RetroCore]

Some pretty interesting trivia there.

[@Bloodreign1]

Actually, it is said the DC, and most other ports, save for the PS2 and Saturn versions, were based on the PS1 versiopn, Naomi arcade version of Alpha 3 Upper included.

[@metalcoola]

One of my personal favorite SF, lots of characters, and lots of content for single player :) Back in the day, i used to left my PS on for half a day, since you could also unlock stuff, by playing game for + 100 hours

[@SynthatronPrime]

Great video! Did you mention the 3 player dramatic battle for the Dreamcast version? It's awesome! My friends and I played it for hours.

[@dbnpoldermans4120]

3 players? tell me more I'd love to beat up 2 friends

[@SynthatronPrime]

Dbn Poldermans I can't recall if you need to unlock it or if its always available but you can play dramatic battle with 1 player vs 2 others. If I remember correctly the 2 player team shares a life bar. We spent hours on this mode back in the day.

[@dbnpoldermans4120]

I do not see it listed as an unlockable www.gamefaqs.com/dreamcast/198820-street-fighter-alpha-3/cheats Could it be that you were just playing with 2 players instead of 3 players?

[@RetroCore]

Yeah, I'm sure I mentioned it features all the modes from other versions plus it's own.

[@RetroCore]

I think he's talking about the Tag Battle option.

[@VOAN]

Remember Street Fighter Alpha/Zero 3 had two arcade versions, the CPS-II version (which had less characters) and the Naomi version (which had more characters) which is called Street Fighter Zero 3 Upper. While the PS1 and Sega Saturn ports were based on the CPS-II version of Alpha 3, the Sega Dreamcast, GBA, and PSP ports were all based on the Naomi version. In the Naomi version and its three home ports, if you lose to Final M. Bison in Arcade Mode, the game will allow you to continue and fight him again unlike the CPS-II, PS1, and Sega Saturn versions which if you lose to Final M. Bison in Arcade Mode, the game will just give you the bad ending instead with no option to continue and retry (this is why Capcom made Final Battle Mode so to kinda solve this issue).

[@aeonlinear]

Ah, the last SF game I gave a damn about. Capcom need to have a good hard introspective look at why the alpha/zero series trumps SFIII and absolutley smokes IV and V. Namely, speed and responsiveness.

[@RetroCore]

I agree. I mentioned to another commenter that after SF Zero 3 I just lost interest in Street fighter.

[@Crownholder]

SF Alpha 3 forever! I Like you Guys 👍

[@JT-sx5gl]

V is utter trash.

[@shinkazama3959]

@2:35, facts spoken right there, it was amazing in '98 & is still amazing today! :)

[@alainazor3990]

ARCADE ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ PS2 Anthology ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ PS1 & PSP 👍💪⭐⭐⭐⭐ DREAMCAST & SATURN 👌⭐⭐⭐⭐ GBA GOOD 👍 sad the music sound look bad plus stage missing the good thing i like more characters like PSP and the gameplay is excellent

[@sdlock83]

PS2 > ARCADE

[@craigjuan5744]

Personally I think the Saturn and Dreamcast versions are the best ports of the game, hands down. After watching this video, now I'm tempted to buy both versions. I used to own the Dreamcast version when I was in high school and loved it.

[@RetroCore]

Same here! But go for the Saturn version over the Dreamcast one. It has the better hit detection.

[@Rapid98k]

The subtle thing I'm glad they changed was the health bar. It looks so much better in the home versions.

[@shinkazama3959]

Great BOTP video for 1 of if not the best fighting games of all time, and as far as home console versions go, Saturn all the way!!

[@RetroCore]

Thanks man. And thanks for watching.

[@DJZeeJay]

PSP version is the definite version. Has so much going for it.

[@russelldeck4168]

@User I have both versions and the psp version is way better.

[@JohnSmith-sy6zm]

PSP D-PAD SUCKS!!

[@luisreyes1963]

I had the PlayStation version of Street Fighter Alpha 3. Quite fun, despite its shortcomings. Pity Ingrid is only on the PSP version, she's even cuter than Cammy! ❤

[@RetroCore]

I guess they needed to add something to the PSP port to make people buy the same game again 😁

[@Video-Games-Are-Fun]

saturn port is by far the best. it actually has larger sprites than the arcade!

[@ahuman9864]

Video Games Are Fun Not true. Saturn only appears larger because of resolution. Its a common mistake.

[@HPLins]

I know the DC and PSP versions are really good, but back in the day the Saturn version was the one that really shined! It was basically the arcade, but home! PS version was also really good, but the animation and load weren’t as good as on Saturn. I think I played more on Deamcast overall, and I still have it for PSP, but again, Saturn one was the real show! In general all the versions are really good, including GBA.

[@RetroCore]

The Saturn version was indeed the one to shine. It was amazing back in the day. Even better than the Dreamcast release.

[@YudhiKurniawanRyu]

Saturn version is only Japanese.

[@MarcBarkyMarta]

When the weakest portable port turns out well, you know the battle is gonna be good. I have fond memories of my cousin ripping through the PlayStation release of SFA3 when we were in high school, but moving to the Sega platforms is really something else. The Dreamcast and Japanese Saturn were probably the two best machines ever for fighting games at their peak, but it’s really hard to declare a winner in my eyes.

[@Xshinobi2k8]

This game is downright beautiful.

[@hpickettz34]

Sega Saturn best version.

[@cannonballkid]

Yeah this just shows how crazy Sega was. Sega: We have a new system out called the Dreamcast! Everyone: Cool! Sega: Yeah, it has all the current arcade games on it! Everyone: Does it have Zero 3? Sega: Yes but the Saturn version is superior to the Dreamcast... Everyone: Wait, what?

[@RetroCore]

That is so true. The Saturn version has more animation from what I remember. Sure, it has less game moves but the gameplay is tighter. The only true advantage is that I can run the Dreamcast version in VGA and use my Japanese Saturn controller with an adapter.

[@cesarjezreelmolina8030]

jgfjgfify lol

[@capcom23]

Too much load times. After having experiencing Dreamcast or Arcade you know PSX is no go

[@shinbakihanma2749]

jgfjgfify well, the only reason the PSX version was so well received was simply born out of necessity. The PSX was the DEFAULT console of choice, and most gamers simply didn't own the Saturn or Dreamcast in comparison. The PSX version was decent, at best, and that's me being generous in relation to the era it was released. It really didn't warrant the overwhelming praise it received at the time of release. I still own the PSX greatest hits version, and I keep it only because of the novelty. I used to own the Dreamcast version, and that was my default version of choice for years until the SF Alpha Anthology was released on PS2. I unfortunately, never owned the Saturn version, as I sold my Saturn system nearly a year prior. I kinda regretted it afterward, because I had a lot of awesome import games for it, like most of the Capcom fighters. I was a young guy, and just wasn't in a collector's mindset back then, but hey, you live and you learn.

[@lightdark28]

Probably my favourite 2D fighter , Ive put plenty of time into the world tour mode. Generally speaking I would say the Saturn version is the best , the PS version was a great effort but did lack in animation , loading ,etc. the Dreamcast version looked the part, but there was something off about the controls that I couldn't put my finger on. The default Saturn pad is also pretty much perfect for this kind of game. Just a shame the Saturn version is so expensive, I managed to get it years ago for a relatively low price, but its now about triple that price.

[@RussiaGoodFantastic]

PS2 version is 15 bucks and has all the arcade versions of sf alpha games +pocket fighter

[@lightdark28]

I was thinking more of the ports released around the time of release , hence why I didn't include the GBA version which I also played.

[@RetroCore]

I agree with you. The Saturn version is easily the best port out there. And as you said, the Saturn D-pad (not that horrid first gen western one) is perfect for this type of game. I even used a Saturn controller via an adapter on the Dreamcast version.

[@lightdark28]

its a real shame Marvel vs Capcom didn't make it to the Saturn . Looking at the prices now, it goes for £200 just for a non bundle version , which is crazy, I paid maybe £40 circa 2010. its really the price that hurts the game.

[@segaunited3855]

Marvel VS Capcom DID make it to the Saturn.

[@TheUpliftingGuy]

I prefer the Dreamcast version with Akura HDMI box. The Saturn port is a little bit darker when it comes to the contrast.

[@RetroCore]

The Saturn version only looks like that in this video because of the way it was captured via RGB. It looks much brighter in real life. The Dreamcast port on this video was captured via VGA going in to HDMI.

[@TheUpliftingGuy]

Good to know, thanks for the info! I'll try to get my hands on 1 copy if I find it for the right price.

[@RetroCore]

Sadly that's the problem with the Saturn port. It's very expensive.

[@TheUpliftingGuy]

Yes, I think that's the case with the Saturn port. The prices on eBay are not that friendly.

[@atomiswave2]

They should make a cps2 based SFA 4. The Saturn version is darker.

[@RetroCore]

The Saturn version is darker because that was recorded via analogue RGB. The Dreamcast was via VGA converted to HDMI and all other versions were emulated with hdmi video out. The Saturn version isn't really darker, just a side effect to the way my capture can does RGB video.

[@RaydenUMK3]

Saturn version of this game was the first game I tried on my 20" PVM and it blew me away

[@DanielAyy]

Saturn + Pvm= heaven

[@SuperKokuJin916]

PlayStation, GBA, Dreamcast, Saturn, PSP, and even the PS2 emulated version? I've owned them all!! As much as I love the pure Saturn perfection, I would say the PSP version becomes the best version when emulated on PC with a Taito Vewlix arcade stick (or 2 with a friend, if financially well off). Even if T.Hawk is missing frames of backwards walking animation...

[@DIASTCartoons]

Street Fighter Alpha 3 is the first Street Fighter game I ever played. I grew up with the PlayStation version. I was about 3 years old and played matches against my older brother and dad. I have a digital copy of this port for PlayStation 3 that I play occasionally.

[@RetroCore]

You are lucky to have started Street Fighter from one of the better games in the series.

[@segaunited3855]

Get the Dreamcast version.

[@topofbones]

Sega Saturn for the win!! The GBA port remembers me the SFZero2 for SFC. It's a good effort, but the hardware doesn't have enough power...

[@gernonjones8871]

The GameBoy Vance version. Is really impressive from what it is. I know it’s not the PlayStation or the Dreamcast. But still, you got to realize, that the Game Boy advance, was less powerful than the system still but Capcom did an amazing job, of pouring this arcade head to the game boy. They really did

[@RetroCore]

Yep, for what the hardware could handle the GBA version is fantastic.

[@Christopherh1234]

Nice but what happened to the Alpha Anthology PS2 one especially Hyper SF Alpha ?

[@RetroCore]

No access to it at the time of making this video.

[@Christopherh1234]

+@@RetroCore that's understandable .

[@rockmanhunter]

Smoother animations, almost no loading times and original color mode plus all the features of the Playstation version and more. Even with the Dreamcast with online gameplay, I stay with the Saturn.

[@pixelflow]

that arcade music is so good. (same with the darkstalkers)

[@RetroCore]

Can't argue with that. Some great tunes in all of the Zero games.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

GBA was a very impressive handheld. So many "Wait...how did they fit THIS on a portable system?!" titles. Like one of my all time favorites, Doom. That said, from the looks of this video, there's no bad port here. Everyone got a good one. Shame more games can't end up that way.

[@RetroCore]

Yep, even the weakest port (the GBA) is still really good, especially when you compare it to the SFC of Street Fighter Zero 2.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Really shows what happens when a developer takes time and care with a game.

[@afriend9428]

*Too bad Crawfish went bankrupt and out-of-business* 😢

[@sdekaar]

arcade>saturn>psp>>dreamcast>>>>playstation>gba

[@RetroCore]

I'd have to agree with you there.

[@clarenceboddicker6679]

Many people may not believe the arcade version is the best due to the home versions featuring a larger roster of fighters. Balrog, DeeJay, T.Hawk, Fei Long, Guile, Ingrid, Maki, Yun, Evil Ryu and Akuma were not featured in the arcade version so that version seems incomplete compared to the home versions. The graphics, sound and game play of most of the home versions are pretty much identical to that of the arcade version too.

[@user-rd5wj2mm8n]

I'm always interested in the comparisons, but the reality is all versions (barring GBA) would look, feel and play identical to anyone other than a SF fan boy.

[@SoftBank47]

Problem with the Saturn port is its sheer rarity. I've never seen it for anything less than $250 USD. Not gonna stop me from trying to find it when I go to Fukuoka over Christmas weekend, lol. ^_~

[@hansweiss469]

I'd personally go like this(in terms of arcade accurateness): Saturn>Dreamcast>Psp>>>>>>>>>>Ps1

[@gingataisen]

A shame that the 30th Anniversary Collection hadn't released yet when you made this video, Mark.

[@RetroCore]

There's always an excuse to go back to it I guess. Aren't the versions on the 30th anniversary packs just Arcade emulated roms?

[@shinkazama3959]

This is still a great BOTP video to watch, hope all is well Mark :)

[@RetroCore]

Thanks. Yep, all is well. Just pretty busy. The new BOTP should be up by this time tomorrow.

[@Neethan3247]

For people that want to play a home consolized version of this game and cannot afford the Saturn copy (who really can these days?), get the Dreamcast port. Still VERY affordable and a near perfect version (aside from Saturn) of the game.

[@CaspisSinclair27]

Oh, Charlie is named "Nash" in Japan. Cool to know.

[@CaspisSinclair27]

Raul Julia will always have a place in my heart as M. Bison, as weird and goofy as his performance was. I just felt like I should mention that.

[@Bloodreign1]

That's his full name, Charlie Nash, odd that they used his first name in the west, but his last name in Japan.

[@InariOkami]

When Capcom bring the Street Fighter Zero arcade series here to Mexico in the nineties we know it as that, SF Zero instead of SF Alpha as was name it at the USA, for me it's nostalgic to hear the intro "Street Fighter Zero" into the japanese console versions, because all the American continent console versions were named as "Alpha".

[@RetroCore]

I think the name Street Fighter Zero sounds cooler. I've never liked the Alpha name. Nice that in Mexico you got the correct name.

[@blvk3]

@5:05 he said no middle attacks, but the game play shows RYU using MP a few times the key is hold the light attack for a bit to get the middle attack

[@kyfeam]

Helps that you can actually play the game.. you did a great job! Two thumbs up!

[@RetroCore]

Thanks. I was using a modified with Sanwa Arcade parts Xbox 360 Hori joystick with all versions besides the Saturn and Dreamcast. Those two versions were played using the Japanese Saturn control pad.

[@ToruKun1]

LOL I own the GBA port. Very weak but VERY ambitious! So I give them credit for that.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

I like the Alpha series Mark. In fact, I think I spent more time playing it more than the Marvel series that Capcom collaborated with. I wouldn't mind if they made another one in the near future. 8^). Personally, Alpha 2 is my personal favorite. Nice work as always bro. Anthony..

[@RetroCore]

It's probably the best of all the Street Fighter series. My personal favourite is Street Fighter Zero 2 Dash on the Saturn.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

Ah, a superb choice Mark. I got that one myself in the import games for the Saturn. Anthony..

[@andyj91]

Alpha 3 MAX on PSP + Steam Deck, w/ full control scheme = bliss

[@TheRacingOtaku]

I enjoyed the PS1 version.

[@RetroCore]

I can see why. It was much better in all areas than most 1 on 1 Fighters for the system.

[@emanatingf]

@@RetroCore Word

[@diegoaccord]

Just a point. the GBA does have 6 attacks. You have to map the 5-6 attacks to 2 buttons. Like: LP = L MP = L+B HP = B LK = R MK = R+A HK = A On an emulator additionally you can map a controller button to the binded buttons which can give you 6 separate buttons. Did quite a few combos that required all the buttons in this old vid. kzbin.info/www/bejne/forSmIOsl66CZ9U

[@RetroCore]

That's right. Thanks for the info. A few other people pointed that out. Quite a strange control system but I guess there's not much choice with only 4 buttons.

[@shinkazama3959]

Sorry Mr Smith, still playing this on PS1, PS2 & PSP, I really still feel this is a better game than Alpha 2 (which is an awesome game), also the fact that games like these can still hold up in 2022 gores to show how well they were perfectly programmed!

[@RetroCore]

Indeed. The later Capcom 2D fighters are still extremely fun to play even now and still look fantastic.

[@shinkazama3959]

Recently got my PSP version, it's as good as you say!

[@celio8864]

Fantastic, greetings from Brazil

[@RetroCore]

Thanks for watching, Celio Alves

[@StarFox85]

he said it...balrog!🥂 andore chilling in the back 11:31

[@deepakmakhija441]

Huge Fan Of Street Fighters EX PLUS ALPHA & EX 2 PLUS. looking forward for next video in this ultimate series.

[@RetroCore]

The EX series would be nice to cover but there only one port and that was for the PlayStation.

[@gaeljehnno]

The only game on my gba micro, you can have the middle puch/kick by pressing the 2 other button and configure the button the way you want. Not perfect, but i can't play a more smaller version on any other system.

[@abdulazizalbanna3157]

Great video as always keep the good work . But you didn't mention the street fighter zero 3 upper naomi version.

[@RetroCore]

Yeah, I missed that out because it's basically the Dreamcast game minus the extra modes.

[@gilius2k156]

I found out that the Japanese Saturn version is the closest to the arcade in terms of not being nerfed - maybe even Crouch Cancel works (haven't tested that). All other versions on DC, PSP, PS1 (etc) all had major balance changes compared to arcade - even the US Saturn release. Not sure why the Japanese Saturn release was spared.

[@RetroCore]

This didn't get a US Saturn release.

[@gilius2k156]

@@RetroCore Right. I guess that wasn't included in my tests. I tested PSP Max (US) and Double Upper (Japan), and PS1 US + Japan, and DC [GDI] Street Fighter Zero 3 - Saikyo-ryu Dojo (JP) + [GDI] Street Fighter Alpha 3 (US). Only on the Saturn version could I do the V-ism stuff I do in the arcade - and it feels just like the arcade version too!

[@sdlock83]

PS2 versions are overall the best. And no, the PS2 versions were absolutely NOT simply arcade versions with "home version soundtracks." The PS2 version of SFA is the only one that places Bison, Akuma, and Dan down the center in the character select screen. The arcade version of SFA2 Gold/SFZ2A does have have Cammy as a fully playable character. And the PS2 version of SFA3 Upper is to this date the only version featuring no load time and ALL character sprites, including T.Hawk's backward walking animation, which even the NAOMI/Dreamcast, and PSP versions are missing. This video was definitely made without sound research.

[@Ashura96]

A few more things- medium punch and kick can be done on the GBA port by pressing both buttons for light and heavy punch/kick. Also I find it hilarious that only the PS1 port features an animated background when Akuma appears during the intro sequence.

[@RetroCore]

Oh, good heads up on the GBA controls. I never knew that.

[@maxheadroom4659]

I own the PSP version, and it plays fantastic in PSP emulator on the PC, using an xbox one controller. Totally changes the game for the better, playability wise, not having to use the thumb cramping PSP D-pad.

[@braunstein5645]

5:07 Actually, you CAN do middle moves, but you have to press the high and low button simultaneously.

[@michaelt.lancaster9776]

You should try the PSP port on the Vita. It is definitely an improvement!

[@RetroCore]

Sadly I don't have a Vita.

[@Ashura96]

You should have included the PS2 hidden "Upper" version as it is a uniquely modified version that adds the extra characters from the console version, but has been built directly from the arcade version.

[@RetroCore]

Sadly I don't have that game. My PS2 can't play CD R discs either :(

[@Ashura96]

Retro Core One interesting thing I discovered about Alpha Anthology is that the game has a piracy lockout. The games within the collection will only load if the PS2 was cold booted directly into the game. Using a disc swap or boot loader program will cause the game to hang when you select one from the main menu. I have yet to find a way around this.

[@Bloodreign1]

Apparently Capcom did the same think for Capcom Vs SNK Pro on the PS1, I use a Gameshark as a boot disc for my import PS1 games, and I get a message I can't read, saying possibly that the game won't run because I'm using a boot disc, or think I'm trying to pirate it, it sucks honestly.

[@NewGabeOrder]

@@RetroCoreThe Alpha Anthology uses a DVD-ROM, not CD-ROM. You may need a backup loader like SwapMagic, Breaker Pro or TonyHax to play backed up and import software for your PlayStation 2.

[@Frikinautas]

I played the PSX version of this and man Charlie's ending got me mad. Since then I spoil myself the endings of several games.

[@leomon32]

On the Playstation port, choosing the same character does a full animation version of that character like Darkstalkers for Saturn. (Same work with Pocket Fighter, so you could have all the animations).

[@RetroCore]

Really,? I've not noticed that before. Something to look in to.

[@leomon32]

Retro Core Just check, it's obvious with Zangief mostly.

[@ROX99]

Hey nice work... So why you don't make a conclusion of the best top 3 for your all videos :)

[@RetroCore]

Because people will just disagree since they have a different option.

[@ROX99]

@@RetroCore yes , but this is your analyse and your point of view, it can help so much when we decide to play a game that was ported on many consoles.

[@StevenCusic]

Man that psp version was slick still play it on PPSSPP sometimes it's my go too for single player I wonder if the taito type x version is any different like an arcade version of the psp

[@RetroCore]

Taito Type X version? I don't think there is a version of Street Fighter Zero 3 for that hardware. Only the Capcom CPS2 and Sega naomi hardware.

[@Bloodreign1]

They re-released them in arcades in Japan in those multi-fighting game cabinets, I think they may use Taito Type X2, not sure though. The NESica cabinets I believe. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESiCAxLive SFZ3 is listed on the games available on it.

[@StevenCusic]

Retro Core yea there's a version for taito system look for it i think it's type x but you can down load for it

[@StevenCusic]

It might only be for comps I'm not sore

[@StevenCusic]

But yeah it was deff realsed on some taito system

[@roboyle]

Is True RGB Mode something you have to turn on in the menus on the Saturn? I don't remember seeing it, then again it's been a while...

[@RetroCore]

Yeah, it's in the options menu under screen set up. You can u can choose RGB or Normal. The default is set to normal. Vampire Saviour and a few other Saturn games give this option too. It basically helps give the correct mesh effect on the round and Fighter screen overlays that the Arcade version uses.

[@roboyle]

Retro Core It'll go on tonight for another blast I think... thanks for that!

[@geoserenity]

ah psp street fighter alpha 3...or the non fighter’s preferred street fighters since you can remap buttons to specific numbered moves and numbered moves (other versions may/may not apply). Also you can load it on your phone with a psp emulator so you don’t need to take your psp everywhere. you can even use your old save data. perfect win!

[@RetroCore]

That's right. I have it on my phone. Works fantastically with a real control pad.

[@geoserenity]

Retro Core hell yeah

[@JohnSmith-sy6zm]

The GBA version has Easy moves too!

[@geoserenity]

John Smith and it would run better on a phone. But 2 less buttons for moves...

[@JohnSmith-sy6zm]

+Geo Belmont What app do you use?

[@UltraEpicLeader10020]

I wanna see a "Battle Of The Ports III: 3rd STRIKE"

[@MadaoAU]

So what are the differences from Dreamcast version to Saturn ?

[@RetroCore]

Hit boxes are off on the Dreamcast.

[@StevenCusic]

Oh yeah I remember when the alpha series came out my brother said *why everything gotta be big as hell these days* speaking on how bison got super deiseled haha

[@RetroCore]

Funny you should say that. I remember a friend coming to my house and said, finally we now have a version of Street Fighter where the characters are the same size as the arcade. this was with Street Fighter Zero 1 on the Saturn.

[@marioghernandez4960]

So this day hath finally come... SWEEEEEEEET

[@shinkazama3959]

Still love watching this video, gotta say though Mr Retro Core (aka Mark) you have convinced me that Alpha 2 is the better game, however Alpha 3 ain't far behind and it easily blows away other fighting games of it's time and alot of Modern fighting games!

[@RetroCore]

The 3rd game is very good but for me the 2nd came at the hight of my enjoyment for street fighter.

[@michaelt.lancaster9776]

I have 3 versions of this. The arcade version via the Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Edition, my original PS1 version, and the PSP version via my Vita.

[@RetroCore]

The vita version is really cool I think.

[@Asuo]

He answered our prayers..!

[@TheShinShade]

Not a bad port in the bunch!

[@MagisterHamid]

I have the CPS2 arcade and I must hands down say that this is the best fighter ever!

[@RyuHayabusa06]

I loved Alpha 3 in the arcade. However, I always hated what they did with Cody. His backstory and having him in prison garb was stupid IMO.

[@RetroCore]

Agreed 100%. It's stupid having Cody as a convict.

[@hansweiss469]

You can blame Final Fight Revenge, a.k.a. the worst 2.5-D fighter I've ever played, for giving Cody that pointless story arc.

[@alexq2930]

Great great video as always, you should do a video of that very old fighting game called YIE AR KUNG FU.

[@RetroCore]

Ah, Yie ar Kung fu is on the to do list.

[@josphok4142]

beautiful video ,,,cheers mate

[@RetroCore]

Thanks for watching, Josph Ok

[@napalmhardcore]

I think there's something wrong with the way you've captured the Saturn RGB mode (colour space settings?) because it looks really dull. I've watched a few of your port battles and have noticed the Saturn appearing dull and washed out as well as some other captures not representing a particular port faithfully I say this as constructive criticism and also because some people watching may not be aware of the difficulties associated with video capture and might be given the wrong impression of a particular port. Aside from that, keep up the great work :)

[@RetroCore]

Yeah, it was all down to the way for some reason my capture card likes to capture Saturn footage. I mean, it looks fine on the TV but dull on the capture. I think I've fixed it now. That last show to feature Saturn looked better.

[@fazares]

medium attacks are present in the gba port...you must press weak+strong attacks to execute them :P

[@RetroCore]

Oh man, that's such a pain. Good to know they are there.

[@n64fan60]

8:43 *PlayStation* I think this port of SFA3 is up there with the best work on the system by anyone. Yes, it's missing frames. Not as many as you'd think, though. It's not as bas as SFA2 and all the Vs games that came to PlayStation from CPS2. With SFA3, Capcom clearly did everything they could to retain as much character animation frames as possible. Thats why hit 'sparks' and some animated background elements are done with polygons. Takes up way less memory, and a worthy sacrifice so that Zangief's standing animation isn't made of 3 frames lol. The loading times are a few seconds, it's not a big deal. The loading times on SFA2 on PSone were absolutely epic. All in all, I say Capcom smashed it out of the park with SFA3 on PSone. Yes - it's not as good as Saturn etc. It gets insanely-close to those versions. If only Capcom had done this with previous CPS2 games that came to PSone - those games wouldn't have been so bad.

[@Ai-fj1dc]

Still waiting for a PS4 / PC port of Max...

[@skins4thewin]

It's really a shame how dark many consoles RGB signals are, as you can see here. I find it very helpful to use a display with a Gamma adjustment. This helps a lot with the dark images that many consoles output when using RGB.

[@RetroCore]

It's strange about the RGB output because it looks fine on the TV but dark via the capture card. That will be fixed soon for the Saturn once the HDMI Saturn box arrives. Should fix the noisey RGB audio signal too. The Saturn while having fantastic RGB video really is very noise with audio. Depending on screen brightness there's always background hum / buzz.

[@skins4thewin]

@@RetroCore Ah, that could be crosstalk from your RGB cable. I assume it's not the more expensive type where every inner cable is shielded? Aka the packapunch cable that retro gaming cables uk sells or the more expensive coax cable that retro access sells? If not then you're probably getting interference from the cable.

[@israeloliveira2083]

Man I would like to know why Guy player one can perform combos which can't be possible in player two ? Why guy in playstation 01 , on player 1 , has combos with qcf klink HK ➠ HP works , but I tried in some arcade versions then don't work ? Do has another version different than psone which this combo works ?

[@totalprocall6894]

Video mentions "the saturn is the only offering to have true RGB mode outside of the arcade" that isnt true in the sense i think he's talking proper 240p video output like the cps2 original. Only the ps1 and saturn output proper 240p meaning all other versions are a scaled messy waste of time(not sure about psp screen options though). Only ps1 and saturn versions look correct through an OSSC at proper integer scaling options with scanlines. Love the channel btw.

[@cesarprado6943]

I wold like to see a 3rd strike video.love your videos nice work👍

[@RetroCore]

Hmm, I think 3rd strike doesn't have many ports that are not emulation. I know of the Dreamcast one. Any others?