"Return of the Turn": Groomers

[@33walden]

"If you can't arc a turn, you're not going to impress me " . I love all skiers no matter what level but love that she said that.

[@jesusthe15th]

Period goes before the quotation

[@Frightsfeed]

@@jesusthe15th Period goes at the end of your sentence too.

[@jesusthe15th]

@@Frightsfeed nah fr?

[@_cameraboy]

That moment when youre an unknown midwest kid trying to make it in SkiTown, USA. But the local hot shot doesn't like you, and you team up with the mountain rejects to enter the big race and save the rec center while stealing his girl by laying out sweet arcs...totally rad.

[@brendanmcdermott5232]

Reminds me of a little movie called Hotdog

[@sov413]

@@brendanmcdermott5232 best movie i've seen is hot dog

[@Arkturbettel]

sic arcs.. you mean like "pizza, french fries, pizza, french fries"? ))

[@hbgap3596]

I like both this one and the one about moguls, reminding people that skiing has many dimensions to explore. It seems a worthy goal to have carving, mogul, and powder turns in a skier's bag of tricks. Each is a separate skill and few can do all three.

[@tombonomy]

I’m pretty sure this is how I look when I ski groomers but no one ever films me. ..... .. . ..

[@kdk149]

i love carving on corduroy. Being able to initiate a turn whenever you want is the ultimate.

[@OliCM3]

Always headed straight to the powder, only ever 'fired' myself out of a real good carved turn using both skis by accident. Even when uncontrolled, that springy energetic feel you get from turning like a racer is so rewarding and addictive, it makes powder floating feel like kindergarten play.

[@OliCM3]

@Nick I never claimed not to be

[@tmediaguy]

Big, wide, steep groomers are my favorite and I occasionally like to run them on my 1970's Kneissl WhiteStar GS in 210cm with Marker Rotomats. They carve on hardpack and hold a turn as long as you dare keep the edge set.

[@Maxillz]

The Legend of Ice Babe

[@TonyRedunzo]

Edge to edge, edge to edge, edge to edge, that's all I can do. Can't ski moguls anymore. My old joints creak too much. Completely lost on a powder day because where I ski that means wet mashed potato snow. I skied the trees when I was 12 years old until discovering wide slopes served by chairlifts. love the corduroy.

[@challi70]

That was a snow effect, Ice babe is a mirage

[@tonyg3091]

Marcus Caston is a legend!

[@jerryoestreich6437]

That was the most entertaining 3 minutes of skiing that I've seen in my 47 years of skiing. Gotta love them groomers. Ripping with a high edge angle makes for a lot of fun.

[@JMcKaySV]

I've never seen anyone ski so well on the inside ski lol

[@florianN132]

Yeah, at 0:30 ... deep carving turn completely on the inside ski... but still looking dope!!! Most people wouldn't be able to pull that turn through! Impresive

[@paganskier]

Watch some World Cup speed events in slo-mo. It's amazing how many inside ski 'recovery' turns are performed on every run while draggin knuckles on an injected race course.

[@Frightsfeed]

@@florianN132 its all about variation haha! if your outside ski ends up in the air you gotta switch lol

[@josephmurray9585]

" if you can't arc a turn, you're not gonna impress me " I'm sure she means well, but this is the primary reason I ride alone mostly. I don't have to meet anybody's expectations but my own...

[@darrenkastl8160]

Joseph Murray Well put!

[@oldscool24]

you missed the point

[@elantonelle]

the words of someone who cant carv

[@chrisgravel7157]

Such a great video and testiment to why us ski nuts love skiing groomers. This is a tribute to those end of season spring days when your skiing your best, the sun is shining and everyone else has packed it in so you can just let er rip!

[@BlizzardTecnica]

Couldn't agree more! 🤝

[@phenix3st]

It’s not just about arcing the turn. It’s about generating speed from the release of energy ;) groomers are life!!

[@mikemarchetta3145]

I've found a new world on the groomers after skiing for 20 years. Up until the last few years, I was always searching for jumps and bumps. After a few years of doing a lot of track racing on circuits, I have a whole new view on skiing. It's so similar to the feeling of driving a race car. Intense focus, one mistake and you're fu***d

[@quentenjones5513]

This should be a full length movie with some east coast footage.

[@RogerDiotte]

MAN I LOVE the groomers...good job on video showing perhaps people that never skied and seeing THIS! I freakin' love the speed, control, the glide, the turns...the G's LOVE LOVE LOVE this shot @ 3:01 Clap Clap Clap...takes me from my chair to right there!

[@heladar]

at 1:20 do you have all your weight on your inside ski? How do you keep in line with your outside ski in mid air? :D everytime i get on my inside ski i get into trouble, would love some insight, thanks. Awesome skiing btw.

[@martinliptak1436]

heladar Skills 😁

[@boscxx1447]

heladar all your weight on the outside ski. just focus on that solely, the more speed you gain the deeper you’ll get and the more weight will be distributed throughout

[@heladar]

@@boscxx1447 at the time stamp mentioned the ski has literally 0 contact with the snow, it's in the air. How can he have any pressure on the outside ski if it's in the air? ;D

[@martinliptak1436]

heladar obviously at that time he had all the pressure on the inside ski, but it’s some next interstellar level of skiing 😁

[@tomlivingston4296]

Yeah he does, but not on purpose. He entered the turn pressuring his outside edge, went so deep in the turn that the angles stopped working, and held the turn with the inside just long enough to slam the outside ski back down and contact the snow for the turn exit. He pulls this off by having legs of steel, a lot of momentum, really grippy spring snow, and a lot of skill. Most of the time when you go this low your hip drags in the snow and you just kind of bottom out. It's a cool-looking screwup, basically, the kind of thing that happens when you're trying to see how low you can go.

[@nicktaylor7680]

Love it-anybody can huck air but carve technique is what separates the jibbers from the pros! BTW the Bonafide is technically a great ski but an absolute plank ! even these guys struggle to flex it adequately and you dont need such a wide ski on groomers which begs the question what is this ski designed for? 100kg pros skiing dust at mach speed on crust? pretty narrow focus. The Brahma on the other hand is a much more versatile and equally capable ski.

[@colinoxenham6124]

Not for you, Jer

[@lcgilbertson4791]

Must be nice having nobody else on the groomed run like that. Big reason I stay off them is to avoid all the beginners. Too unpredictable.

[@sidhammer9461]

Idk, sometimes that’s half the fun. Threading sick high angle GS turns at 40+ mph through the hoards of slowpokes while remaining in full control and endangering none of them is pretty fun. It’s particularly rewarding when you perfectly predict the paths of 2-3 Jerry’s as they zig and zag their way down the trail so you can blast through the slot that opens up without having to slow down or change the path of your arc at all. I never raced, but I’ve spent my share of time slaloming through crowded trails with a few other fast friends, and it can be a great time seeing who can make it through the crowds fastest (and I’ve never hit anyone, or seen one of my friends do so either btw).

[@ericpedersen6424]

Almost as good as fall line deep powder turns. Nicely done, lads.

[@levaneristavi7371]

Which Blizzards is Marcus on ?

[@blameitonben]

I love carving. Floating on fresh snow is great too. But give me some springtime groomed corn at 11am and I'm a happy camper.

[@alexs5394]

To be fair, groomers at Snowbird are way better than any other groomers. Regulator Johnson is freaking terrifying

[@thomasmedeiros5722]

Alex S Regulator Johnson the longest and steepest groomer at The Bird. I have skied it on 98 + 100 mm waisted freeride skis but last season I intentionally bought my Blizzard X Power 810 Ti 167 cm front side skis. Man what a ride! If you liked Regulator try skiing The Wild Flower Olympic Downhill at Snowbasin Ski Resort it’s out side Ogden UT. Do it on a day with good visibility and take time to check out the course!

[@philliptoone]

Everything is better at Snowbird. :)

[@magnificoas388]

All is about the "slow zone" sign...and how to deal with it :)

[@jiplinnartz5820]

Thus lands an air while carving lmao

[@SolaceEasy]

Ice Babe could only be a Spring Fling.

[@rustyme1122]

2:48. Exactly.

[@evancharles576]

out of all the places ive ever skid snowbird has the best groomers i got addicted

[@robertlattanzi]

Breaking: turns never went away.

[@chrisk4119]

2m10 Atomic Race SG's . Got a pair, can't beat em

[@timeverett2762]

Got a set of DH/SG in 209. Go boy, GO!

[@user-lo4me9oe9z]

How did you guys get away with hauling down big Emma without the fun police trying to pull your passes

[@darrenkastl8160]

Mix in a high speed riser, that gives you about 6ft up and 100 ft long and immediatly into a turn ! Whoosh! Andreniline rush !

[@wayneevans9364]

What skiis are they on, not that they will make me ski like that.

[@phenix3st]

Wayne Evans lol. It’s not the skis. It’s the skier. The skis won’t make you any better. It comes with many hours on snow

[@wayneevans9364]

@@phenix3st It was tongue in cheek. I did want to know what skis he was on though. I think they are Blizzard Bhramas.

[@martinliptak1436]

Blizzard Bonafide

[@keiahnigbruder1453]

phenix3st thats what he said

[@keiahnigbruder1453]

Wayne Evans what does tongue in cheek mean?

[@wernman]

Being able to carve nice turns on an icy slope,makes it a good day with no regretts!

[@malmoredhawkslover]

What Blizzard model are they using? Looks fun as hell to ski!

[@chrispeecream7845]

Bonafide. Fantastic skis!

[@walterwhite19855]

If u cant rip Groomers, u shouldnt be in the messy stuff.

[@evaodland7349]

in free heel alpine skiing you can toss in a telly turn or two in there...

[@swampymaan]

i am not the nice ice girl...but skiing... i am in... visit us here at the wengen ski slope

[@МихайлоФедоренко-ч1п]

Why do they ride on their inner leg?

[@edjack1993]

Groomers are like a racetrack (if you know how to ski them).

[@owensmith883]

Claire brown drops her inside hand so much... like if you don't have the angles to knuckle drag don't try to

[@owensmith883]

also Minnesota? Try racing iced over super-g in thw whites! That'll make you appreciate speed

[@realytimeful]

carvings only the half of it what about the drift

[@RVHatcher]

Like these guys, I ski for g-forces!

[@cten461]

ever play tag with your homies on grooms?

[@reggiestuhr3197]

Snowball fights are fun too

[@todayisthegreatest]

groomers are underrated

[@klank67]

Trenches on groomers!!

[@kevinrenaud2752]

How about showing some people on straight skis. ANYONE can carve on shape skis!!!!!!!

[@jasonwebb6484]

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[@KaloqnBankov]

0:23

[@JCWelch-uk3um]

OH FUCKYEAH

[@irekireneusz1628]

WOOOOOW

[@petermartin9494]

Whats the big deal? Those skis pretty much ski themselves.

[@davidm1922]

I don't know why Tecnica would sponsor Marcus Caston to do this video when they could have worked with good groomer skiers instead. Marcus was completely incapable of balancing on his outside ski throughout this entire video.

[@mattnoorda5867]

why you want to be a hater its all about having fun an most of the time thats not a perfect turn

[@richardelder256]

Marcus gets away with skiing on his inside ski because he has developed good edge angles before losing the outside ski. He is strong and a good athlete so he gets away with it! If he was in an icy World Cup GS course he wouldn't make it through the third gate. His skiing shows the common flaw of not holding his angulation through the highest G portion of the turn. Look carefully at his upper body and shoulder rotation which ends up blocking the weighting of the outside ski---- just like so many beginners and intermediates. One of the hidden secrets that separates a truly great skier like Marcel Hirscher from the rest of the world is the efficiency of his edge to edge transitions--- and that includes a mili-second of skiing on the inside ski!--- but not during the high G arc portion.

[@davidcampbell404]

@@richardelder256 I don't know man...this guy is a ripper. Terrific style and with just the right amount of "holy-shit-he's-gonna-lose-it" athleticism. I really dig your analysis though. Are you a racer or teacher?

[@mbal4052]

@@richardelder256 can you post some videos of you skiing please?

[@traceypurcell2687]

Thanks some great skills on display here. I do hope that no skier copies you and actually rips it through the SLOW ski zone like that though as they are there for a reason. Perhaps next time ski fast by all means but set a good example and slow down in designated areas.

[@StCreed]

Yep. The teens copying this type of behaviour can't stop fast enough to avoid the 5-year old kids just learning how to ski. And that's how accidents happen. Also, there is no way you can stop if there is a bump and someone just fell over behind that bump. You will see them too late, and will then badly maul them with the ski edge. If you ski over their head, possibly kill them. And then what?

[@darrenmassey435]

Very poor example of how to ski. The slow signs are there for a reason & should be respected. It is a lot safer for everyone to ski @ slower, slower, slower speeds & tighten up the arcs to achieve the hip to the snow angles & forces. If speed needs to be lowered further might have to go from locked on edge carving to brush carving. Momentum can hid a lot of poor technique. Plus it is more fun to be skiing then ridding the chair back to the top.