Revenge Review #26: Meghan Takes a Hack Saw to Palace Protocol While Harry Gets a Mouth Massage

[@shelbyschnoor9369]

I just threw my sister in law her baby shower, I spent 4 hours making a balloon arch, and we played baby trivia games. I thought it was nice we had punch AND mimosas. I threw it in my parents house bc it’s bigger than mine. My thank you gift to guests were rose keychains cuz the baby’s name is Rosie. I still think my party was better than Meghan’s.

[@cheeredenise]

Sounds like a beautiful party!!!!!

[@shelbyschnoor9369]

@@cheeredenise thank you! People had fun and the mother to be cried tears of joy because she felt so loved. That’s what mattered. 🩵

[@hellpoint7534]

I agree.

[@annhenry3135]

Meghan doesn’t understand that the $30,000 designer purse holds her phone, lipstick and wallet the same way a $30 purse does. She wears her insecurities and depends on others to provide her worth that she will soon discard. She is one to be pitied. She will never stop looking for her value to be displayed while never understanding she needed to look within to find it. A life not lived.

[@anncarper8163]

No doubt it was way more fun!

[@jacquelinewilliamson8933]

Princess Ann is a strong feminist without advertising it , she stopped a man from kidnapping her.

[@junechrisman3407]

Yeah, I think that makes Her a boss. She took the bull by the horns and defended herself.

[@PS_testing321...]

Prince Philip was not afraid to walk behind the Queen. No matter your gender, it is about supporting the primary and having enough confidence to do that, still coming out with your own personality in tact. Prince Philip was famous for his hilarious personality. He had no problem being the comic relief, he was extremely well respected, except for a few gaffes. But he was a man of his time.

[@lindalievens991]

Amazing how she got to New York without her Passport that the palace took.😊

[@michelleleget1785]

They returned it to her so she could travel.

[@trinapowell4436]

No hotel room in the world is worth 15,000 quid a day. That's obscene and offensive.

[@LaPinturaBella]

I am so disappointed that Amal Clooney has shown herself to be this shallow. Mostly because she obviously had a superb publicist when she met, dated and married George. I had been impressed with her work as a very effective international human rights lawyer. But since she married, has she even continued with that part of her life???? I haven't heard anything about her at all unless connected to Hollywood. I really have lost the respect I had for her. And throwing in with MM played a huge part in that respect disappearing. This "baby shower" was such a farce and so gauche for a royal. Hell, it was gauche for anyone. Massive eye roll.

[@mojadah10]

Her association w MM is making me question her. I know she's a very accomplished woman but now I'm wondering how much of what we know about her is PR. And did she chase & catch her husband the way HW did. So many birds flocking together. I'm wondering is she really much different.

[@despicabledavidshort3806]

You'll really be disappointed when you realize Amal is a man 🤣

[@jessiemacgregor1357]

​@@despicabledavidshort3806 You are cruel 😂😂😂

[@margaretsmist7140]

Yes Amal Clooney is still working as a lawyer. She was fooled by Meghan as were many others- as far as I know she now has her figured out.

[@margaretsmist7140]

@@jessiemacgregor1357and a slanderer

[@CMinorOp67]

26:55 “…a harp was slowly wheeled in” That’s freaking hilarious. I now need South Park to do a full-length movie on Meghan’s life.

[@cliftafrizzell4687]

I would be dead from laughing!😂

[@jenniferlane6720]

Please South Park do a movie on Mega-Horrible’s life!!! It will be a block buster.

[@hellpoint7534]

🤣🤣🤣

[@JumpCutThis]

It’s the only way I’ll ever undertake anything covering these two again.

[@queenredspecial]

😂

[@laffytaffy2916]

I am with you 100% I made it a page and a half of Finding Freedom. It’s as bad as her acting and she totally wrote every word. It made me fear my lunch was coming up 🤢 I donated it to the library, probably the cruelest thing I’ve ever done to others. 😞

[@MrsRitchieBlackmore]

Yeah, that book is TORTURE! And not in the entertaining way, like Spare. Best to skip!

[@gonefishing167]

O funny. I went into our library one day and it was there. I said ‘oh no’ and the lady said ‘don’t blame me, someone donated it’ 😂😂😂😂👵🇦🇺

[@rebeccablackburn9487]

You're much better than me! I literally read the introduction and the very next day I returned it to the library! 😂

[@rebeccablackburn9487]

I take a very dim view of any comparison of MM to the duchess of Windsor. Yes, the D of W was somewhat controlling and could be manipulative. However, she had respect for the RF and the institution , and wasn't out to bring them down like MM and idiot boy.

[@laffytaffy2916]

@@gonefishing167 Oops!! Sorry It was me! 😂 I should have tossed it!

[@kakacoco5]

I don’t find it weird that she wanted a shower. What’s weird is that she would have in a different country and she didn’t invite anyone from her family. Where is her mother? Her sister? Cousins? No in-laws? No Queen? No Camilla? I thought she and Catherine squashed the beef. Catherine couldn’t come? Much like her wedding to Prince Harry, this “baby shower” was hardly such. It is was just a networking event.

[@MrsRitchieBlackmore]

Exactly! She wants to look all wholesome and perfect, but is too daft to realize that trotting out the Clooneys and Serena Williams while rejecting her actual family is a really BAD look.

[@s.d.9543]

And like most things for Meghan, an opportunity for branding.

[@EP-xu1yt]

The guest list for the shower sounds like the guest list for the Lakers basketball game. Employees.

[@isabellascaravan]

Oh my god I was just thinking that. It’s so weird that no family was there and that they wouldn’t have it at the palace for free essentially (not really but no more added expenses like flying and hotels)

[@pennylando3145]

Baby showers are a relatively new thing in the UK, and no - it might not be weird that MM wanted one, but she should not have flaunted the extravagance and ostentatiousness of it as she did. Royals just don't behave like that. They are wealthy in their own right, and we know that, but they don't shove their wealth in our faces in a sort of Marie Antoinette 'let them eat cake' fashion (albeit that is a distorted story!). That spectacle of a baby shower was on the same par as MM having the seats around her at Wimbldon cleared of spectators, or the bar staff at the Ripple of Hope awards being told that they mustn't even look at her, much less speak to her. It's celebrity behaviour at its most gross and delusional, and it is about as far away from royal behaviour as it's possible to get.

[@jeanhopman5659]

Funny, isn't it? No matter how many times and methods she tries to rebrand herself and her image - it never works, because she just cannot resist her true nature.......and because ALL of the efforts only work to serve her true nature.......

[@MrsRitchieBlackmore]

Exactly!! She's such a dang try-hard. She reeks of desperation and artifice. "Show, don't tell" is a lesson she never learned.

[@ednanieves8572]

Lack of discipline, laziness and ignorance are always in the way in her case. Truly sad , it’s easier to raise a child boosting his or her ego to the hilt an d hoping it’ll work fine in the end than putting the effort to prepare a responsible, honest human being. It does says a lot about the adults in her upbringing. It’s amazing how far she’s managed to go with all her antics, but she’s unable to make it stick long enough. Therefore the unraveling is soon approaching and as it was said before “it will end with many tears “. The children are the real casualties in all this mess, no consideration at all for the two innocent souls.

[@despicabledavidshort3806]

​@@ednanieves8572well I agree with everything but "the children" bc there's no children

[@kdcats4092]

By the way I dont think anyone would have denied her having a "baby shower" in London if it was held as a charity event with all gifts being given to a charity that gives essentials to mothers and children in need. The Royals would frown upon any member having a personal baby shower because they know the public would see it as a rich person who could buy anything a baby needs making a money grab ( or a luxury goods grab)

[@p.martin974]

Amal Clooney is actually who Meghan seeks to be. Gorgeous, rich, accomplished, on her own accomplishments, not her husband’s title. Long before she met George, she was a prominent international human rights lawyer. She gets glowing press coverage for her own accomplishments.

[@dianeshelton9592]

Amal Clooney was a very special person before she ever met George and in fairness George and Brad Pitt met her because of their work with sponsoring a satellite checking on the safety of the Darfur Refugee camp. Those actors don’t shout about their charitable efforts of which there are many unlike Meghan forever talking about her charitable efforts, what has she actually achieved other than talk? Buying awards doesn’t make you charitable and I was disgusted when she attempted to monetise the Invictus Games a good thing Harry had done prior to meeting her.

[@Anna_Key]

Right, Amal is actually "whip smart" and doesn't have to tell us about it.

[@j.whiteoak6408]

I both agree & disagree - I think she really wanted to replace Catherine!

[@mommyshark1124]

Agreed. Also, she seems to have removed herself from being methane's "friend." George as well. They didn't say anything on that NYC fake car chase.

[@emmacsak]

That's why I cannot understand what was her reason to get associated with mm. Or even Harry. Why was she wasting her time on two empty heads? Neither of them could put together a coherent paragraph.

[@Anna_Key]

I hope Mehgan invited her beloved niece to her baby shower, afterall, she SO wanted her at the wedding but tragically was not "allowed" by the Palace

[@tammybarrett7650]

Yet she had no PASSPORT

[@gaia_x_3322]

lol she doesn’t need a passport….she’s the dutchass of sussex

[@emv1237]

Here a year later, Harry doesn't look healthy or happy. All that "California therapy" isn't helping

[@buddy6743]

At the start of the relationship she walked beside or behind him but from the moment they were married she always pushed herself in front of him as if she was the blood royal, which always caused embarrassing situations. This was among other things her bad behavior over which she received negative press.

[@Nursebubbe]

But he keeps taking private planes. Every blade of grass cares about your exhaust fumes.

[@Bernadette-nb2xw]

Your view of Lady C’s coverage of this topic is spot on, I feel uncomfortable listening to it , I like the way you cover the challenging behaviours with out being overly ruthless

[@lucyhidayat9063]

😂 spot on, Denise. M is indeed the sloppiest villain & because we live in the culture of no objective truth, she can get away w it on and on....

[@loopyloo788]

I’m totally overdosed on M&H. They’re exhausting. Choose whatever you will. I’ll be here. ❤️

[@DavinaWilson58]

I have read two of Lady C's books and was surprised and impressed about her impartiality. Both books were very well researched, too. Her writing style is nothing like her interviews.

[@cheeredenise]

So appreciate your insight!!! Thank you!!!

[@sewfrench1396]

I agree! Her book are different than her KZbin channel

[@jenniferlane6720]

Please don’t cut Lady C books out of the running for you to do with us. Her books are very good & easy to read. Thanks for reconsidering. Lady C has written 1 about the Queen Mother this would be a good book for the podcast. Thanks for considering it.

[@cameliawilks2049]

I’d love if book reviews were done on Lady C’s books.

[@kathleenmatteotti-dj9wg]

Lady C are very well researched and always interesting, please give another thought! Thanks

[@blueskyeyes7]

Spot on about the baby shower. It was a networking event.

[@cocop5058]

Sadly, so was the wedding.

[@AmyJoTraut]

One of the most fascinating British Royal is The Duke of Edinburgh’s mother Princess Alice

[@alisonboydell7143]

I agree .The life she led was inspiring.

[@grose2012]

Truly interesting woman... She did so so much and suffered a huge amount too... Rode round on London buses ignored ehen she lived at Bham Palace! Remarkable

[@vancouvervixen4253]

I have no dog in the hunt, but just my two cents re Lady C’s books: I listened to “Meghan and Harry: The Real Story” on audible. I went in squinting and skeptical and was absolutely astonished at how well written, tactful, balanced, and interesting it was. In fact, it was so good, that I immediately picked up “The Real Diana” which was even better. I truly feel that you would benefit from actually reading the books yourself, either here or in private. I can see why you have misgivings and how you may have formed that opinion from some of her videos as I suspect she’s really just totally over it with Meghan and Harry. I’d be delighted if you gave one of the books I mentioned a chance, and despite having already read them, I’d follow along here to get your reliably humorous take on things. I’m glad you plan to continue with content regarding the royals as I admit that is why I’m here. Wallace Simpson would be an interesting one to look into next. Looking forward to whatever you choose to do next! (Edited for spelling because I can’t help myself 😂)

[@run4cmt]

I also think Lady C is a good writer. I find her very measured in her comments.

[@vancouvervixen4253]

@@run4cmt I was so pleasantly surprised!!

[@Arielsfork]

She's a fraud and has lots of people fooled

[@maxinefreeman8858]

I still remember where Harry said that he didn't know how bad his childhood was until he went to a therapist in LA.

[@peggyoban4069]

I hear you on Lady C. She has very non-sentimental approach to life. One grows in appreciation of her character as she talks about the hideous abuse she overcame from her mother and childhood.And anything with her sons or about them, their adoption, etc., and with their participation as interviewers and her defenders is really very beautiful. ❤

[@peggyoban4069]

Maybe her Diana would be good for when you are ready to take on the Princess.

[@alisonboydell7143]

I am so pleased that you've decided to give us a break from the duo . Im with you im so sick of it all .

[@kaitlinconnors7413]

I’m from NY and in 2019 I went to Ireland for one of my cousin’s baby shower. It was only the second one in the Irish family. Two of my aunts refused to go bc it’s not done in Ireland. So I can see why the British were upset with her having a shower then they saw the price tag

[@DingodileinCahoots]

I just had to go look up what an away bag is 🤷🏻‍♀️ Here ya go: Obviously, it wasn't just any old luggage, but Away luggage - the ultra-cool, hard case bags you've probably seen all your favourite influencers using. It's believed that the baby shower guests were given the 'Alchemy' case, which is made from aluminium and costs an impressive £445. It’s crazy to think that this party only lasted two hours. I started thinking more about the cost. People buy a house for 350k…and get a 15-30 yr mortgage. It vexes me. I’m terribly vexed.

[@markx1]

I suspect Away subsidized some of the "baby shower."

[@MizJilly]

It's so pathetic and nouveau riche. She spends like a rapper. Meghan never studied old money, despite marrying into it. They'd never do some nonsense like a $500k baby shower with suitcases as a giveaway. Ridiculous and tacky.

[@marylyn3081]

Good to know. I just pictured all the uneaten food. I truly hope that they let the staff take it home or something. I know NONE of those women probably eat, Let alone in public.

[@Lewel-qw6en]

Maybe she didn’t want to leave any of the buffet behind but didn’t want anyone to look cheap leaving with a paper plate wrapped with a paper napkin like normal people. They did have all those macaroons to get out of the hotel as I doubt she would donate the food to the hotel staff

[@eroberts1204]

2hours!!!??

[@deenabeauchamp5290]

Royals do not have showers . Royals do not receive gifts 🙄. This woman did not follow anything. She was an embarrassment to Royalty . Greedy indeed attention seeking at its finest.

[@CornbreadOracle]

Why are wealthy people even having baby showers? Showers are for people starting a new phase in life to get the accoutrements to do so with out taking a huge financial hit: a bridal shower is supposed to help a new bride get equipped to set up housekeeping. A baby shower is to help new parents onto the road of child rearing. Heck I was raised thinking showers for second weddings and second babies were kind of tacky. And I didn’t even know rich people had ‘showers’. I know this is Meghan’s first baby, but it’s not like she didn’t have the resources to get herself ‘kitted out’ as they say across the pond.

[@kirstenanderson1435]

Completely agree...a baby shower should be close longtime friends and family not people you just met. Most of the people who attended this event didn't even know her before her wedding. In other words, Serena Williams, Gayle/Oprah and Amal Clooney were not friends but people who were networking with her because she married into the RF. That they became "friends" with her simply because she married Harry says as much about their character as it does about hers.

[@lornarettig3215]

I've long thought that Markle walking through the photographers who were outside the New York hotel for her 'baby shower' will end up being the highlight of her life. She must have felt giddy with her own self-importance that day, and it was all downhill from there.

[@lesgensdeprovenceontlaparo6531]

She called them and was ecstatic that they all showed up.

[@vickiebrezee2799]

Thank you, Cheere, for what you do on this platform. I, too, enjoy memoirs, autobiographies, and biographies. I also like to try and figure out the motivation behind why people do what they do.

[@brettbrinegar3929]

The only thing I can add to the discussion on Lady C is that I found her book on Diana to be extremely well balanced. She did not paint her as a hero or a villain but just a person with both positive traits and flaws. I believe it may be the most accurate presentation of her and in terms if the critical parts, the kindest. The Diana book is a contrast to her Harry and Megan book which is not nuanced in the way the Diana book is. FYI, Lady Cs book is out of print but available via Kindle. Just my 2 cents-love your channel!

[@cheeredenise]

Great insight!!! Thank you!!!!

[@violetgc6049]

@@cheeredenise The Lady C Meghan and Harry book has been updated and reissued, as of a few months ago, doll! Brand new edition.

[@cheeredenise]

@@violetgc6049 you may not know about it but Lady C viciously attacked me a few months ago when I reviewed one of her books so I won’t be doing any of her books again. There’s a couple of videos on my channel outlining the drama…it was wild!

[@Margatatials]

honestly MEghan is a great argument for the royal family requiring prospective family members to have citizenship in a commonwealth country before marrying into the family

[@happytoday333]

Maghen not only got her British citizenship but was also baptised into the Church of England before their unholy union.

[@whoseturnisit9733]

@happytoday333 Meghan is definitely not a a British citizen, She changes her religion depending on the current husband. She would not be able to past the general test on history, civics etc. She had no interest. Her plans to leave were made before wedding as she had already organised Oprah interview. Which she could never do while a Royal. She called us racist for her own gain, and she knows nothing about the UK, despite us paying for her existence while here, which she thought was an unlimited bank account. Charles must have had a huge shock when seeing the bills. Since she regarded the wedding that cost £40 million a spectacle, and her every demand was catered, she should pay Charles back. Citizens paid for security. Then to lie about the Archbishop of Canterbury marrying them 3 days before, shoes her total disrespect. Since she and Harry have come very close to committing treason, don’t think she would be allowed citizenship. Poor US had to put up with Harry, but they too are blessed since H wouldn’t take up a US citizenship since he’d lose financially. All they care about is money .

[@happytoday333]

@whoseturnisit9733 You don't have to tell me she's a piece of work, I can see clearly what she is. But she had to become a British citizen to marry into the royal family and did. She might have some dual citizenship I don't know. I think in Revenge, Tom Bower writes about her having to complete the two things before the ceremony.

[@Margatatials]

@@happytoday333 she didn't even live in the country long enough to get citisenship

[@merrywalsh2809]

My perspective on Lady C is that she is very knowledgeable, intelligent and well connected. She brings a well formulated world view. There have been instances when her delivery rubs me the wrong way, because it contained too much bile, but most of the time she is delightful. I do not always agree with her politics, but then, no one agrees all the time. There are plenty of books to review, other than hers. We can settle on another. On another note: three publicists to arrange a baby shower, but could not get help to see a psychologist.

[@vickiebrezee2799]

Now I know why she never followed protocol and allow Prince Harry to be first to shake someone's hand. She would claw her way to the front. It was so tacky of her. If she doesn't believe in "ladies first," then why would she insist on being first?

[@LizzyxDarcy]

Lady C' s books are nothing like her shows. You won't find more informative books about Diana than Lady C 's books and you can take her knowledge to the bank.

[@ichangedmynameforyoutube]

Respectfully, yes, but it’s very different from what this channel is about.

[@FayeIL]

I agree with your not covering “Finding Freedom.” It’s their propaganda piece, and as you said, you covered H&M thoroughly already. I’m enjoying the Hunter Thompson book thus far, and I look forward to seeing what else you do. You have such an engaging way of storytelling. I listen while doing things around the house, and it makes the time go by so quickly!

[@jessiebassil7887]

“His little todger met his demise…” that’s just made me laugh out loud. I’m trying to catch up on the Spare episodes and also watch these. I’m totally invested here, thanks very much. ❤

[@maxinefreeman8858]

They're in LA. She can walk beside him, in front of him, she can walk over him.

[@happytoday333]

He is a piece of work, too.

[@nuthinbutluv4u142]

I'd give her a baby crib and watch her take it back on the plane.

[@cheeredenise]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 hilarious comment!!!!!

[@ADowney-jh4fk]

I remember hearing that the palace thought it was poor form for her to have a baby shower because royals don’t need gifts for their baby. They have plenty of money. I don’t think Catherine ever had or if she did it was kept really quiet.

[@vickyaldridge6778]

Thank you so much for your explanation at the beginning about your choice of sources. You are never malicious, or rejoicing in the pain of others (even when it is self-inflicted). One of the reasons I so prefer to watch your channel.

[@pennylando3145]

I don't watch that many of Lady C's own videos, but I have read several of her books. I would say that they are a needed counterbalance to the myths that have built up around some of the more iconic royal figures. The counterbalance is needed in the interests of truth and fairness. Reputations have been quite badly damaged by one-sided accounts - in particular those about Diana - and I feel that Lady C's books help to show all sides of the story. Her book about the Queen Mother - another iconic figure in her time - was quite an eye opener, and worth reading for a wider view on Edward and Mrs Simpson.

[@beverlybenson9981]

Re Lady C, I have to comment that one time I thought she went over the line was when the queen was close to death and LC mentioned she knew what she was dying of. Then, right after the Queen died, LC mentioned the cancer. I don't think it was her place to go before the royal family and share that information. 😔

[@violetgc6049]

To be fair, when she declared the Queen dead first before any other news outlet or the RF themselves, it was later disclosed that the RF asked her to do just that -- in order to cut MM and Harry of at the pass. The RF was worried that MM and Hawwy were going to stick themselves in the center of the narrative. So perhaps they likewise gave the wink-wink to Lady C to reveal the cancer diagnosis too. She has their trust and lots of connections.

[@sunfish7021]

I have never seen a soul in so much need of liberation as Harrys. 😑

[@sunfish7021]

You want real spirituality? Here you go.... 'True teaching is not an accumulation of knowledge; it is an awakening of consciousness that goes through many stages.' 🙂

[@losblancos363]

The baby shower is one if those bits that weirdly, probably disproportionately, pisses me off a ton, LOL. I guess it's just symptomatic of so much that's wrong with Nutmeg. She has no ties to NYC. Why have it there? (Not to mention, where is your family still? Where is your mother? Who are half of these people?) We all know why. It was about networking, prestige, and being on display. The whole thing was a merching event. Presents, open, or in labeled boxes, being Price-Is-Right-ed their way in through the front of the freaking hotel! Serena Williams hawking her own crap even on social media in relation to the baby shower. Meanwhile Meghan has her royal protection officers with her and was riding around in an SUV with diplomat's tags. It became such a circus that the NYC police had to be there to keep control of it all. So that baby shower cost NYC and British tax payers a pretty penny. Oh, but they donated the "used" flowers after the fact... and then the jet back. And then this person has the nerve to use questions and criticism of all this as **breathy sigh** just another example of people unjustifiably bashing her *AND* her poor, dear friends. And how can people be upset when it was just *her friends* throwing her a baby shower? That's literally what she says on Netflix. And then they shipped The Harkles off to Morocco. Another dud outing for them where Meghan really showed her ass on so many levels, (ignoring protocol, her spending etc.,) I knew all of this was bad. But when you get the context, the background, the attitude and you're examining these events in order, whoa boy, it's all so much worse than I even knew at the time.

[@MelissasVintageRecipes]

I really enjoy your perspective on Meghan and Harry. You’ve been very respectful of his losses and pain in particular, while pointing out the ways the two of them create and exacerbate their own problems. It is so much healthier than the approach that many channels take.

[@martina5296]

She didn't invite her mother to her baby shower!!!!!?????? Not even her 5 besties who went to People magazine? That baby shower was beyond gross. Inviting people who are using each other for their own self-interest? I bet there was alot of food wasted. Why the need for a 5 bedroom suite!!!!! Why not have it in her's or another one? The nastiness of how frivolous her suite was, the cost of the party and the suite that it was held in is beyond uncouth. Who needs 3 publicists? Why the need for barriers for the press? Why did Meegain leave the hotel when she was staying therel? £325,000 for a party for 15 super shallow people? That is just excessively gross. The people attending, I've never heard of except Jessica (what's her worth to Meegain?), Serena Williams, and Oprah special friend Gayle. People are just so awful to have no problem using each other for image, career elevation and greed. Why did Gayle even get a raise? She just went to a party. No photos, no interview. Just hearsay? Why does anyone think Oprah has power? She only has power that people let her. Fools. Oh, that Morocco trip she wore a.........are you ready?........ a Dior gown (plain) that cost almost £100,000 / $$119,114. Using "racist" or "racism" is so pathetic when there is ABSOLUTELY NONE!! NONE!! Those who use it because they can't find more accurate words, degrades what true racism is and degrades all those brave souls who fought so hard for civil rights. Especially, when it's used to defend a privileged wealthy woman being horribly financially excessive, rude, crude, mean, horrible and entitled (amongst other terrible behavior.). The British vogue guy doing that double weird issue, hopefully, demeaned his authority and leadership and the ability for people to trust him.

[@Fiftynine414]

The BRF benefitted greatly when the Harkles decided to jump ship. I wish like hell they’d leave CA. We’re full up on woke craziness here.

[@michelegraham9044]

Re the baby shower. We all know the story. The interesting thing for me was that she got SOMEONE ELSE’s publicists to organise it. Very strange.

[@lindabarrett5631]

What's up with all of this protection she needs? Has anyone even heard of any actual threats or safety concerns towards her or Mr. Markle?

[@losblancos363]

Can we get a book tour though, Cheere? 😃 I spend a part of every episode squinting and rereading the titles behind you.

[@OsloTime]

I have a few of the same books and I'm always reading the background book titles too haha

[@judithmanderson431]

Me too

[@annemoncrieff3875]

Use a magnifying glass.

[@anncarper8163]

I agree with you about Wallis. She was a social climber like Meghan, but not on the level of narcissism like her. I think Wallis actually wanted to stay married to her husband, Ernest Simpson. She would've been happy just being David's mistress. Both she and her husband benefitted from that. But David fell hard for her, and things ramped up to a level that Wallis never intended. I can see a similarity between David and Harry -- weak men who needed a mother figure. David's mother had been so distant. So they both fell for women with much stronger personalities.

[@cheechalker8430]

Meghan should have had a baby shower and ask her friends to bring gifts in order to donate them to an organization that could use them. But yea, someone in Meghan’s position to have a baby shower is very déclassé

[@livhemingway2224]

I absolutely love Lady C she's fair and truthful. I find it a joy listening to her tell it as it is. I'm sorry you're interpretation of her is anything other than genuine.

[@Anna_Key]

Maybe Cheere has tuned into Lady C when she has been a little too exercised by what she is talking about. But considering what Lady C/Georgie has been through in her life, I'm impressed she isn't completely crazy! The work she has done to be grounded and sane is impressive. If she wants to go off the rails sometimes, I give her some leeway to do that.

[@jenny9075]

I totally agree.. Lady C is very fair in her videos.. she has a blunt and strong opinion that comes from the terrible difficulties she has overcome in her very interesting life. I understand her position on Harry and Meghan and I agree with her 99% of the time. She is also quite sensitive and gracious . I admire her.

[@MsRebjo]

Seems like friends could capitalize on their “ friendship “ with Meghan but poor Thomas Markle cast off for a few mistakes which could have been avoided!

[@maggietrubshaw5345]

Lady C is a court gossip. If that's for you then she's great.

[@KarolynLee]

I feel that Lady C is very fair, and does give credit where it is due. I also see her being fed up with and willing to expose dishonest people who are hurting people. I've learned a lot from her sharing her experience being raised by a narcissistic mother and her personal journey that has been somewhat harrowing. She's definitely in my experience not a gossiper just for gossiping sake, but there is a purpose to educate and inform. Just my opinion.

[@queenredspecial]

I agree.

[@hellpoint7534]

Though Lady C seems to be beloved by many, my take is the same as yours.

[@Rachopin77]

I feel as though the idea of feminism can turn into a very strange, insecure phenomenon. One where people feel the need to posture and perform this idea of "it doesnt matter what the reasoning or end result is as long as women are put on a pedestal and they also do what I personally like". I consider myself very feminist, but I always try to make sure that the core of what I believe isnt hypocritical. Im straight, I have a husband, and as a feminist I feel that we should be partners and equally supporting one another in the ways we individually want to be supported. I dont need to tear down my partner in order to feel more empowered. I dont need him behind me. Hes really good at certain things, and I'm really good at other things. There are some things I dont want to do but he doesnt mind doing, like killing bugs in the house. I can obviously do it, I just dont want to. I cook more because I like cooking more, but when I dont have the bandwidth for cooking, he does. I enjoy his masculine energy because its what I personally like. Some women prefer other traits and thats fine. My feminism also says that any gender has the capacity for good and bad leadership. Being nurturing or not. Even if there are certain trends we often see, no group is a hive mind where everyone acts the same. I also think its none of my business if a woman wants to be a sahm or have an intense career. People do different things and have different goals. And sometimes, people want to take care of a woman they know because they want to, not because they dont think she can take care of herself. My husband might go get the oil changed in my car, not because he thinks I cant do it, but because he loves me. I dont have to feel threatened by these things. Im secure in my own strength. To me, theres a level of insecurity and self centeredness in MM's feminism that makes me uncomfortable. And it leads to shocking things like her saying that men being victims of genocide opened more opportunities for women in Rwanda. The number of women in office there is a result of something terrible that happened before, not a "benchmark" to be followed because of "womens empowerment". Excuse my rambling rant 😂

[@Kiki-Kauai]

I found your thoughts very close to my mine. My relationship is exactly as you describe yours. I enjoy cooking for my guy. He enjoys making sure others things are taken care of. To me, that’s a healthy relationship. ❤️

[@lisasmith2660]

You are spot on about Lady C, I will never forgive her for announcing on social media that the Queen had died before Buckingham Palace did, the news team on TV we're dressed in black and something was going on with all the family rushing up to balmoral but she announced it and said she died of bone cancer, it was evil and disgusting, we have protocol and it's a family at the end of the day its somebody's mother, grandmother, great grandmother its up to them to tell the people when they want to

[@violetgc6049]

What I have since heard is that the Royal Family asked her to announce it first, so that Harry and Meghan could not stake their claim as the breakers of the news, which Charles had feared was going to happen. Especially as Harry was having the tantrums about Meghan not being aloud to join him in Balmoral. So they gave Lady C the go-ahead to break the news first. Of course there are millions of folks who don't watch Lady C's channel, and who got the news the normal way, from the BBC. But for those of us who were watching Lady C and were shocked about her brazenness when she declared the Queen dead, we were later told why that played out like that.

[@dianewhiteoak1039]

I can honestly say you will be amazed at how kind and fair she is to H&M in her book. She is a very fair person, she has just had enough of H&M now but she wrote her book 5 years ago

[@cheeredenise]

Thank you for that insight!

[@thamuthafiga4581]

NNOOOO! I was put in Hospital for a 10day Ketamine Infusion to find a better outcome for Phantom Pain of long standing. It was the very worst experience I have ever had and it still feels like it negatively impacted my life to this day. I ended up spending 3 months in a Psychiatric hospital and I still have the Phantom Pain .Please don’t ever try it again.

[@raelenelabby6407]

I enjoy Lady C! She is very straight forward and I trust her insight and opinions. She has ljved a very interesting life!!

[@cocop5058]

I agree! She’s a survivor and at 72 she doesn’t mince words.

[@darlaswann9500]

Less than two hours for a first baby shower?!! That shows how these people are NOT friends.

[@debbykennedylubbe3122]

I think you are spot on regarding Lady C. I STOPPED watching for that exact reason.

[@faithandtheroadlesstravelled]

Thank you for this episode. Your witness for Christ is wonderful. And your position, personally on the drug thing, is spot on. The dark side is real.

[@sueannnatter5295]

If only these rich peoples baby showers consisted of generously bringing practical gifts for low income mothers expecting babies.

[@user-ux7uh6un3p]

I’ve just been following you for a couple weeks and you are the best!! Love your sense of humor and your integrity is so refreshing!!! Thank you!!😊 As I understand it, Meghan did not even open her baby shower gifts!🙄. I guess it’s easier to take them back for the money if they’re unopened.😂

[@cheeredenise]

Thank you for supporting the channel!! Wow!! Really?? So strange…although i have to say that seems to be the new trend. When I was a kid, part of the party was watching your friend open his or her presents. Now, whenever I have taken my kids to a birthday party, the presents remain unopened. What’s up with that?

[@lk4132]

​@@cheeredenise maybe it's just people don't want others to feel bad about the presents. All the comparison stuff. But I could be wrong. Lately we have started to give gift cards for birthdays. They then can buy whatever they want.

[@cheeredenise]

@@lk4132 same! Seems better than gifting something that might just clutter their homes or that they don’t want.

[@avagrego3195]

@@lk4132 agree

[@cheechalker8430]

Did she invite her castmates from Suits? Like the one who told her to “save room for magic”

[@Here.Be.Dragons]

I'm an atheist so I never wanted to try illegal drugs for some kind od spiritual healing or religious reasons. I never wanted to try them for any reason. As someone who dealed with depression and anxiety, I know exactly what works: psychotherapy and medicines if/when you need them. Trying to battle mental problems with illegal drugs and only alternative "therapy" results in pure destruction - as seen in Harry. So I sometimes feel for him. Then I remember what he did to his family and he makes my skin crawl. Great video as always Cheere, thank you, love your point of view on the whole situation. I've been a little behind and am catching up😁

[@ilmaba1756]

The Brits or even Europeans traditionally do not do "showers". It's a North American thing, and even here you do not do your own shower. It's put on by friends or family. 🤦‍♀ What are they talking about? Charles was ridiculed in the late 70s and 80s because of his views on the environment and organic farming. He was way ahead with that. Did Harry not pay any attention to anything.

[@teensymom1420]

I agree. There is no story about H&M we have not heard in depth. Unless and until we start putting them on a shelf and leaving them there, the media is just going to keep feeding us stories about them and I could do without it at this point. I am looking forward to other books you have to bring to us.

[@dt3802]

Many peoples negative opinions started from the engagement interview and pictures. The hand holding, the clenched jaw and strained neck muscles when Henry mentioned being part of a team and of course the lies. Then there was the dirty too big shoes she wore just because IMO they were expensive and the over the top skin bearing expensive dress. Knew from that she wasn't going to be a team player and it just got worse from there.

[@normafoster1959]

Coctail shoes in the muddy damp of KP, and then an elaborate ballgown for officials. Nope. Sorry, but Meghan is an expensive pest.

[@indie1179]

In Morocco, Meghan tried to walk ahead of Harry, & a reporter/photographer in the Morocco pack stated ‘she’s repugnant’ as she was not respecting cultural norms/disrespecting Morocco dignitaries. Look up the footage. Oh, & she wore £100,000 dress.

[@user-hl7hl4ge5e]

I for one totally agree with your perception of Lady C. I’ve watched a couple of her videos and I just can’t- she enjoys her hatred too much.

[@cheeredenise]

Yes!! So well said!

[@textrue9088]

I think you do have Lady C wrong. She has no use for villains, but her list of villains doesn't seem to be long. She doesn't see Harry as the villain and has related that Harry was very kind to her own sons when they would play together a few times and believes Harry is alarmingly weak in character, but I am far harsher than that. Granted she has utter contempt for Meghan and for Phillip Schofield. And she has discretion about what she shares and protects her sources. She teaches a lot of history and provides background to the stories of the day using very precise language. For those reasons, I am very much a fan.

[@cheeredenise]

So appreciate your insight!

[@carolball5764]

I like lady c too.. I like that she’s all for free speech I am 100% behind her.. Free speech is for everyone or none at all!!

[@Irene-xs9pc]

The first time I heard of a baby shower was when we went to America early 90s, and it was like 🤬 (thought we were about to watch a baby being showered) Never heard of it before being a Brit, it’s now a thing over here, like halloween 👻 thank you for your views on lady Colin Campbell I agree with you wholeheartedly, ❤✌🏽✨

[@lornarettig3215]

Hallowe’en is a Celtic tradition. I grew up in Scotland in the 80s and it was a big deal for us. It looks like it got to England via the US, and this ‘trick or treat’ part was unknown to us - we called it ‘guising’ (because we were disguised in our costumes) and we sung songs and so on to get nuts and sweets 👻🎃 We had turnip lanterns instead of pumpkins, too - I don’t remember pumpkins in Scotland in the 80s 🤔🤭

[@Irene-xs9pc]

@@lornarettig3215 hi there, I can remember way back in my childhood when we were taught about all hallows eve, I think if my memory serves me correctly way back in 1600s some celebrated that witches were burned, ..to be honest I do know that we in the 60s never celebrated halloween, but Guy Faulks night ( bonfire night), and we were also taught about Robbie Burns the Scottish poet, ❤️✌🏽✨

[@animula6908]

It’s only supposed to be for the working poor and young anyway. It’s like a barn-raising where people pitch in to help their friends and neighbors afford the outfitting of a nursery instead of helping build a barn. Even in America older or well off people don’t have them. I’ve often bought a bunch of diapers for my friends to help them out because we all want the best for babies, but it’s just tacky for a rich woman to throw a huge party and call it a shower when she can afford the best of everything already.

[@tammybarrett7650]

Shes been trying to REBRAND her REBRAND,of a BRAND of another REBRAND ,it will NEVER work ,shes dispicable!!🤥🐍🤑🎯😤🐀🥱🐷📱💰⛵💲🤮👹🐁🍼🍼🐀🤥🐍

[@patkristl3705]

I did try psychedelics as an 18 year old and stopped they are highly mentally addictive but it is not real. Poor Harry just never realised that is not the real world.

[@sandrasmith2465]

I would like a book on Wallis.

[@imalison]

Agreed!!!!!

[@grammytl9528]

Mememe could have endeared the public to her by taking that money for a 'global baby shower ' ,bought that much in gifts given to the poor and marginalized. She would have outpaced any philanthropic person on record.

[@cocop5058]

I agree. Besides, she’s not really a philanthropist. Her meager attempt at philanthropy is just a form of facade management.

[@Wanderlust.428]

I’m sitting back, girl! Bring it! 👏🏼👏🏼🎉 Thanks for posting!Enjoy your weekend!💛

[@pammarie360]

I agree with your analysis. I would like to hear about other topics. I won't be going anywhere! Thank you!

[@TheMisterMarilyn]

In my experience, people who are what they say they are DON’T have to TELL anyone!! People can see who you are by what you do and how you do it!!

[@theflyingkaramazovbrothers6]

What a wonderful summary of why you avoided using psychedelics. I just had a conversation with friends about avoiding them and your comments and belief really reminded me of what I heard during that discussion. Your commentary and examination of the text (and what we know from other media sources) really enlivens content that may seem duplicative. You should only do what you want to do, of course, but I would appreciate hearing you review any number of historical biographies. I don't know what that would do for views, but you definitely read closely and seem to very quickly arrive at your thoughts, but those are still carefully considered and deployed. Thank you and I'm glad to have found your channel.

[@thatsfunny2051]

You know Lady C wrote a memoir about her own upbringing? It was wild. It's called "Daughter of Narcissus". Her mother was a "Meghan"

[@tammybreeden8903]

I haven’t read all of Lady C’s books, but I watch her weekly. I love you on this channel, and of course you can do any book you please. I have to respectfully disagree with you about Lady C. She is from my perspective a historian, an informer, but she is also very respectful. She always comes with Harry from a point that he could have been damaged from drug abuse, that he did have a very hard and public upbringing. And many times, like this week someone wrote to ask about members of the royal families health. And she would not answer, because until they tell the world it’s private. I think she is a very interesting royal insider. But we are all allowed to have our own point of view. I love your voices and I think your a great story teller! ❤❤❤

[@DavinaWilson58]

Firstly, baby showers are not usual in the U.K. She could have had her "friends" fly to London to celebrate and buy the gifts there. The publicity would have been far more favourable. Also, a geriatric mother flying pregnant with first baby at 32 weeks...is that advisable?

[@violetgc6049]

It's 100% not advisable! But if she'd had the shower in England she would have had to give all the gifts back, as Royalty are not supposed to accept gifts, ever. They are meant to be impervient to bribery and as such, they do not accept gifts. Meghan wanted the loot, so she flew to NY.

[@allieb4132]

Baby showers weren’t really a thing in the UK, ESPECIALLY for royalty. It’s seen as gift-grabby & tacky in certain circles. So for Meghan, a Duchess, to be basically throwing herself a luxury baby shower-the modern baby shower originated in the US in the 50s to “shower” the new mother with much needed gifts for the baby. Meghan flew to NYC because it wasn’t going to happen in London. It wouldn’t have been as gross if instead of gifts she requested donations/gifts be given to a mother/baby charity. That would be the humanitarian activist thing to do.

[@jennywa3046]

Do we imagine that any of those guests eat party food?!!

[@romarobbins270]

I think Lady C is really a kind person, who’s lead a difficult and fascinating life. She’s also a product of her upper crust British heritage, with the very dry wit and sarcasm that accompanies it. She also doesn’t spare her opinions, and says what she thinks. Just my opinion.

[@cheeredenise]

I so appreciate your insight and getting a more balanced view! Thank you!

[@normafoster1959]

She is however a plagiarist at times, and rarely attributes a turn of phrase to anyone in spite of it being clear. However, she is a truly wonderful Lady.

[@barbraluce5706]

I enjoy her books. She was raised with a narcissist mother so she has good insights into the Markles; her book on that was superb. Lady C is part of an aristo crowd and she gets good scoops

[@BlueInk912]

​@@normafoster1959 can you give an example?

[@LadyCat183]

Upper crust British, please take a look at her background. She was born in Jamaica a British Colony and has very little British blood as stated by herself. She is a name dropper and yes, a socialite, but not accepted by the Royals, who are a little different than the Aristocracy

[@cececox6399]

I think you’re totally wrong about lady c. She’s far better at explaining Meagain the person than ANY channel. Because she truly understands the narcissist. Her mother was one.

[@SusanSaysSomething]

HG Tudor analyzes her through the lens of narcissism.

[@HighlandDancer31]

What a shallow life a lot of rich and famous people lead.

[@cocop5058]

Baby showers aren’t really a British thing.

[@lorikoury120]

I completely agree with you. Because we actually have lives that we’re living, we weren’t aware of Meghan’s diabolical lunacy. Or anything the couple was up to.

[@carolwillingham7605]

The “ hot gos” is the style from Lady C, but in her retrospective moments she reveals herself to be fair and supportive too. Her point of view often mirrors Royal friends’ view, ie the worry over Harry’s next steps as all this tumbles out and the view of how Meghan is perceived. I listened to her H and M book on Audible and found it very well written and informative from an insider’s pov.