Review of Holiday Inn Vacation Club Timeshare Presentation. [HD]

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[@srirachahero4679]

At first i was like “great, here’s another PowerPoint you tube channel” but I’m glad i watched - it’s really good to see younger people NOT fall for this timeshare crap. You do NOT need to pre-pay for vacations. Just save up and go on vacation when you need to or want to.

[@vtapia85]

This was a great video, thank you for sharing your experience.

[@katrinascriblon1749]

Thanks for your review. I am stalling about booking mine. Yes. I already paid the money.

[@YesChinaMarie]

This is great info and thank you for sharing your experience💪🏽💜💯. I must say that I'm also in awe with the $2k for 3 weeks vacation. That's less than $100/day accommodation... you still must "get there" (car, flight or otherwise), plus eat. I completely get it, she may not vacation like you... but that's some tight math🥰

[@bmwdec301]

We can relate to a lot of your experience. Our sales lady was so very similar. She was condescending and upset with us if we took her off script with our questions. My husband kept saying, "explain to me how this is an ownership, what exactly do we "own"?" We understood the value in the points and how we are "buying in" at a rate that won't increase over the years as costs to travel would increase, but what we can't wrap our mind around was the annual maintenance fees. Also, one thing you didn't mention is that there are also booking fees each time you try and use your timeshare. Like you it seems, we are very reasonable and responsible with our money, and by no means is there enough time in a 2-hour presentation to make a decison about such a huge financial commitment. Our presentation and time after, lasted a total of 5 hours. Because if this was in fact something worth investing in, we needed more time to understand it. Our sales lady kept pressing upon how this was not high pressure sales and she was adamant that the "pressure" we felt was NOT coming from HER. She too, left us and we had zero closure with her in the end. The third person we dealt with was super nice and genuine and allowed our anxiousness to subside, but our sales lady was just awful. We are sure she was just pissed that we took so much of her time and was eager to find her next set of suckers haha. It feels reassuring after watching your video that we aren't the only people out there clueless to what exactly we were first getting ourselves into. We did not have any idea that this was a timeshare offer. Our opportunity was presented to us when we were forced to cancel a trip in 2020. We had bookings in several IHG hotels and when we called to cancel, they presented us with this offer. We told the guy (our third person) when he asked what we thought we had signed up and we told him some sort of COVID offer since we had had to cancel. No idea it was a timeshare. Oh and our presentation was in Las Vegas and they offered us a stay at the Sahara instead of the resort directly, and seemed put off when we called months later to make the actual booking that we wouldn't want to stay at the resort. When they had offered it to begin with. That should have been our first clue haha. Sorry for the long msg, just nice to see we had similar experiences and can relate. Enjoy your future travels!

[@MrMathExpert]

I understand. It wasn't easy. A lot of it was sales technique 101 including bad cop/good cop. Now, you know what they look like.

[@MsJDubU]

Thank you so much for this heads up informative video on what to expect when attending these scammy types of presentation!

[@qpham26]

thanks for sharing your experience. I got an offer as well except that mine was Free to stay 3 nights ($249 cashback) with an additional 20,000 IHg points. I am looking forward to seeing how it will be

[@NEuX]

how did it go ?

[@XoTeera]

Does that mean you paid the $249 already or you'll get $249 cashback once you attend the presentation and accept the hotel deal

[@joshuakemp6311]

How did it go?

[@violetlightburst]

It's a 2 hour brainwashing trap, but you made it through and said no.

[@Jfizz66]

Don’t do it! You’ll regret it! Lots of hidden costs they don’t share with you at the presentation besides the initial and annual costs.

[@davidgolden9914]

I'm going there because I enjoy messing with them. When they say something, I give them the awkward silent treatment they try to use on you. When my two hours are up, I look at my watch and tell them their time is up. I get my reward they promised me, and I'm on my way. They can't shake me up.

[@irenez7439]

You know I've been to Orange Lake about 10 times, I have only gone to 1 presentation. I love the resort, but I will not buy one. I hope to go back 2 more times this year. I just tell them right away at the check in that I'm not going to the presentation.

[@MrJeepin88]

I got the offer yesterday and took it $199 because of the deal but I don’t want or need a timeshare and can’t afford it anyway so when I go I’m putting a timer on my phone NO MEANS NO

[@MrMathExpert]

Yep, enjoy the stay. It's worth the hassle.

[@valleygirlhomesaz]

Your complaining about a nice vacation for 199? So you had a bad sales person but you got a nice vacation. It’s not a scam, for those of us who now how to use it correctly & travel, it’s great! Just do your homework, it’s not for everyone but don’t complain you had to give 2 hrs for a nice vacation for 199!

[@katkatpower]

Thank you so much for such an informative video. I got a call a few days ago and was unfortunately trapped into buying the $199 package today for a 4 day 3 night stay. I had no idea of all the bad experiences and reviews that were associated with this. They mentioned it was a requirement to attend a 2-hr "VIP Tour", which I now found out to be an unpleasant sales pitch presentation. My stance with timeshares is exactly like yours -- I hate contracts and paying into something you don't 1000% own, so no thanks. Do you think it's worth redeeming this package for a potentially unhappy trip, or should I spare myself and take this as a lessons learned to not book trips through a random sales call with no option to review the documents before booking? Lol 😕

[@MrMathExpert]

It depends on the location and how much it usually goes for. I only did it because the offer was a steal. Prior to the presentation, I had to mentally prepare myself to say no for 2 hours straight. They used all kinds of sales techniques on me. Remember they only saw me as $, nothing more.

[@tenyatone]

Hey, did you end up booking and attending your $199 trip? If so, how was it?

[@mingchi1855]

I could relate because I stay with IHG. Back when I just got a job I had the exact phone call you described and somehow agreed to it. Then I learned how bad it can be. Knowing I am the type of person who have soft ears, I'd rather not go at all so I kept "pushing back" on the redemption dates and eventually told them to no bother. Now thinking about it, when you accept that deal package, you already accepted "prepay vacation and redeem on any time of year" concept. That means you're already following their model and you're an easy pray for them.

[@XoTeera]

My dad received a phone call by a Holiday Inn Vacation Club employee and i believe he agreed on a $250 deal but yet to book a date does that mean he's contractually obligated to any fees or an annual payments? This whole timeshare is new and confusing to me I just read on forums about how these deals are somewhat of a scam.

[@MrMathExpert]

No, it's not a scam. Depends on where the location is, when, and the going rate for hotels in that area, it's a good deal, but he's required to attend a 2-hour meeting. That's when he needs to keep saying "no" for 2 hours straight. After that, it's over. He fulfilled the obligation without paying for anything. It's up to him.

[@XoTeera]

@@MrMathExpert If he doesn't book the trip is there a fee? Thank you so much for the reply ❤

[@MrMathExpert]

@@XoTeera No charge if he doesn't officially confirm it.

[@XoTeera]

@@MrMathExpert Thank you so much!

[@JesusRecruiter]

I am attending the same on in July. Any advice?

[@MrMathExpert]

Yeah, don't show any weakness, or they will exploit it. Just keep saying "no" for 2 hours straight.

[@carbonleaf-videos]

Thanks for this very informative video! Did they ever ask you to give them your Social Security number?

[@MrMathExpert]

No problem. And no. You shouldn't do that.

[@carbonleaf-videos]

@@MrMathExpert Glad to hear that. I wouldn't give them my SSN anyway.

[@DatGirlAlicia]

Yes

[@Toogoodtobetrue458]

they sell you a dream but you end up with a nightmare. don't like timeshares or vacations clubs. they want couples who also have kids cuz the kids inherit the LIFE LONG debt.

[@MrMathExpert]

Exactly, and they require the wife there so to use her against the husband who will make the decision by playing with her emotions. Typical con strategy.

[@johnnewman5239]

the jamaican lady is cheryl and she's not jamaican her brother is a manager over at westgate definitely american

[@MrMathExpert]

So she lied that she is from Jamaica?

[@gamingbros3455]

when they were checking your age and income, how did they do that? Did they just only ask verbally? Also did they check your drivers ID?

[@MrMathExpert]

They will ask for driver's license which will include age but not SSN. They won't copy it; just glanced at it, that's it. For income, we lied.

[@gamingbros3455]

@@MrMathExpert ok thats what i thought, imma have to get a fake id lol

[@donteexd9691]

@@MrMathExpert did they ask to see your credit card ?

[@MrMathExpert]

@@donteexd9691 No, don't need it.

[@jaypujols1067]

Is the worst investment, you get better deal on booking.

[@richardmcfarland7954]

When my dad bought his. It was a wash. They went to hawaii twice and that alone was the cost of the time share. After that it was paid for and got a dam nice place to stay even last year maintance fee was only $1000. Got a great 2 bed room condo in myrtle beach... You aint gonna get anywhere meat that for $1000

[@richardmcfarland7954]

Holiday inn club vacations.

[@scottchace780]

Just take the free vacation and don't worry about getting scammed. Isn't it for you to scam the scammer?

[@MrMathExpert]

I didn't scam them. They offered me a deal of which I took by paying for it ($199 plus tax) and had to attend a 2-hour presentation. The only attempted-scammer was the company during that presentation and I wasn't buying it.

[@wesleymiles5512]

I had a similar experience

[@Roseycheeks-ms1je]

Keep getting calls. She tells me there is no do not call list. It’s law. Need to fix that. I’m retired top sales person for telemarketing company. Thank you.

[@jaypujols1067]

Is the worst investment. From personal experience

[@MrMathExpert]

Share your experience. What happened? So that the others can learn from you.

[@danielonn2002]

Holiday Inn Expres is a downgrade and not nice and of course not $200 a night.

[@MrMathExpert]

You ARE kidding me. Holiday Day Inn has been scamming people with its timeshare program by tricking them into forking over 50k with 1k to 2k annual fees.

[@danielonn2002]

@@MrMathExpert yes they are scamners

[@MrMathExpert]

@@danielonn2002 Also, check out the rooms in that website link where we stayed at last July and compare the nightly rates for the upcoming summer: greystonelodgetn.com/. You'll see it's easily 200 a night. Remember we booked the room 3 months prior, and the room we got was very nice.

[@seethemiddlefinger2759]

Don't fall for it. Total scam

[@richardmcfarland7954]

First of all ihg amd holiday inn hotels are 2 different things. 2 maintenance fees are no where near $2500 a year. My dad has owned a time share with them and his fees just passed $1000 this past year. 3 your buying a deeded property. You get points to use at over 40 different locations. Not including the rci which has thousands of locations all over the world. If you were this clueless about time share high pressure sales pitches maybe you should of just spent the money and got a regular hotel

[@richardmcfarland7954]

And let me add. Maintenance fees this year were just a bit over $1000. I go to myrtle beach every year. Try and find a 2 bedroom resort fulll kitchen 2 bathrooms dining room living room for 6 nights for $1000. Aint gonna happen

[@MrMathExpert]

@@richardmcfarland7954 I wasn't interested in a timeshare property in the first place. I was given an offer of 5 day, 4 night stay at a nice hotel in Gaitlinsburg, TN, for $199. That was an absolute steal. All it required out of me was to attend a presentation for 2 hours. I kept saying "no" over and over until they finally understood what the word meant after 2 hours of high pressure sales pitches and finally gave me the voucher. There was no reason to treat me rudely at any point during the presentation. The bottom line: they offered, I took it, I did my part but didn't fall for the ultimate bait, and the end.

[@richardmcfarland7954]

You get what you pay for. What did you think was gonna happen. You had ZERO intention to purchase a time share yet you decided to take their deal and bitch about how your treated. Maybe you should pay normal price since you make good money and not waste their time

[@richardmcfarland7954]

You got a room that would normally be well over @1000 for $200. This still amazes me that your gonna sit hear and bitch when you had zero intentions of getting a time share. You are the scam artist. Just cause it's offered doesn't mean you have to take it. When my parents bought their time share they went to Hawaii twice. The money it would of cost to stay those 2 times more than covered what they paid for the time share. Your not gonna find a decent hotel anywhere for 7 days for $1000 or less. Maybe you like to stay at shit holes when you go on vacation that's your choice. I like to stay somewhere nice.

[@richardmcfarland7954]

Nope just setting the record straight

[@jessicadavis-hall9553]

I understand you didn't have a great experience, However it is ABSOLUTELY WRONG to do a video and call her out. She can get fired. If you are unhappy , just talk about the company, don't degrade the salesperson. You wouldn't like that done to you at your job.

[@MrMathExpert]

Wrong, she is a con artist, using every trick in her bag to play the confidence game yet failing to outsmart me, and, more importantly, I am going to call her out for disrespecting me and my girlfriend that day. She had no right to do it. We did our part for two hours and acted civil while absorbing her rude behavior. By the way, I've not stayed at Holiday Inn since then and will never do so in the future.

[@rudyharris4709]

@@MrMathExpert good dnt go...better u stay away dnt mess up other ppl money because you got finessed

[@irenez7439]

@@MrMathExpert I went in January of 2021, we meet many people that owned the timeshare and they love it. You seem very sensitive.

[@MrMathExpert]

@@irenez7439 That has nothing to do with it. After accepting the offer, we were rudely treated by this nasty woman, and she had no right to do that. It wasn't what we had in mind. On the other hand, they offered, and we took it and said "no" too many times. Lots of problems were started by the employees of Holiday Inn, but none of them was initiated by us.

[@Thekiddd2013]

If she sells she ain’t going to get fired