Review of White's Fulton Moc Toe Work Boot - PNW Standards?

[@Brandon-eu8vw]

I can’t count the amount of hours I’ve spent watching your videos, and I never get tired of you explaining the basics of the boots. Love the histories you include in the companies as well. Just got into watching The Crown, and would love to see some reviews of the UK boot makers. Loved the video, anticipating the next.

[@JJ-lu6mg]

I just got a brand new pair of the Fulton Boots and the quality control on these lower priced Whites is definitely not great. I’m on my second pair due to bad stitching and I wasn’t expecting them to be perfect, but they were really bad. My issue on one was they missed a whole row of stitching on the back heal of the boots and the first pair had a few issues. I hate to complain about this, but when you get reviews on KZbin that never bring up these issues because they got them for free or their getting sponsored by Whites. As far as Whites customer service I have no complaints. They definitely will take care of any issues that you have, but I’m hoping they just get better QC over time with this line of theirs. I really appreciate your honest reviews that’s why I always watch your channel… Thx again 👍🏼

[@Nathan-zw7nq]

That is highly unfortunate, I paid for mine and had no issues but it is something I’ve heard about. Luckily, Whites and many of these PNW brands do have excellent customer service.

[@boxdynomite3]

I was looking to get a gift for myself and I was torn between the fulton and perry. Both are similar prices, look great, and are suitable for both casual wear and light work. I ended up with the perry. Good to see a review of the fulton since there are barely any out there.

[@Nathan-zw7nq]

Depends on what you work on. If your working in concrete or ladders, the perry is the best. If you’re working on earth gravel and walking a lot then the Fulton

[@Nathan-zw7nq]

Depends on what you work on. If your working in concrete or ladders, the perry is the best. If you’re working on earth gravel and walking a lot then the Fulton

[@Nathan-zw7nq]

I’ve had these since October of last year and they have held up quite well with regular maintenance and care. I work mostly outside in earth, mud, and brush. It’s unfortunate that people have been having these qc issues with these boots. I lucked out on mine and had no problems. But it’s a good thing White’s has excellent customer service. Because of this information I would say buy with caution and I wouldn’t use it on construction sites or factory floors.The sole on its not really meant for concrete but being outdoors in varied terrain. It makes a good outdoor/farming boot though.

[@fordsmobile1672]

Great video as always sir. I have been working and hiking in my pair and they’re breaking in nicely.

[@christopherdavisson617]

First off, love all your videos and appreciate all the effort you put in. Secondly, its nice to see someone finally do a review on these particular boots. All that being said? I do actually own a pair of Fultons and I actually do wear them at work (I work in construction as I'm a site manager for a roofing company). Im sorry to see that the stitching ossue happened to you. But I must report that on my pair? Well ive had nothing but great reliability/durability and comfort out of these boots. I'm guessing they sent you a pair with a bad stitch and that this isn't a common issue with the Fultons. Again though, all i have is my own experience with them and for me, they've been a spectacular pair of boots for casual use and on the jobsite. To be clear, im a bit of a Nick's and Red Wing fanboy as well. So I'm being completely honest when I say that I would buy another pair of Fultons in a heartbeat.

[@todd3090]

Your reviews never disappoint

[@goonerphilosopher]

I bought a pair of White's MP Shermans in a flint kudu from Division Road last year. When I wore them to work last week, a co-worker said they looked "dirty" 👀 and were giving a "work boot vibe." Both were criticisms😂, but that is why I ❤ White's. Even when refined, they are rugged. And when they are closer to real work boots like the Fulton (and the similar but shorter Chore Boot), they are simply bad ass.

[@christophbecker1639]

Thats a great looking boot. But a work boots needs ISO 20345 certification over here, so it would be casual wear for me only.

[@minnesota-hk1vp]

Thank You for sharing! I really like the look. I think construction of boots is fine your getting a solid boot and should be able to get a couple resoles. I've had some expensive boots that need a quick repair so that doesn't necessarily bother me.

[@franzb69]

same issues with the perry first came out. those things had construction issues as well. whites 'eco' versions of their boots always had quality issues

[@scottdavenport1833]

Great review.

[@davidallen2763]

You are delightful. My favorite! By far.

[@va6gkthaskey311]

Nice looking boot, but i don't care who makes it. For that kind of money it shouldn't be falling apart like that. Especially this soon I just got a pair of AR8 Jim Green custom steel toe. Which are cheaper and seem much better then those. Thanks for the video!!

[@UnknownUser-rb9pd]

Vitale Bramani invented an aggressive lugged sole named Carrarmato in 1937 but it was very much a niche climbing boot sole and not widely available. The company was very small then. Itshide had been around since the Victorian era but only started producing rubber soles after WW1. Itshide invented what is known as the Commando sole for the British commandos in WW2 and these were produced in large quantities. Whether these soles were based on other soles at the time is unknown but Italy being on the wrong side in WW2 would of course not been sharing ideas with the British but I don't think Vibram was manufacturing military soles back then and was more like a specialised cottage industry at the time. The Vibram soles didn't gain popularity until after WW2 and the Vibram Montagna sole unit (which has several variations) most resembles the Commando sole.

[@Bootlosophy]

This is fantastic info and much of what I’ve been gathering from indirect sources. Do you have any direct references I could download?

[@UnknownUser-rb9pd]

@@Bootlosophy I don't have any direct sources other than the history of Vibram and Itshide which are mentioned here and there on the web. A lot more mentions for Vibram of course given their size and the thousands of soles they produce for every industry and market. This time period was the beginning of the development of modern plastics which I think used similar moulding processes. So, speculating, it is possible that improved manufacturing techniques enabled more complicated patterns for the rubber industry as well and these soles evolved from that. Certainly that is the case with the injection moulded processes that were developed in the 1970s and 80s which enabled the production of dual density soles and combined midsoles and outsoles.

[@Bootlosophy]

@@UnknownUser-rb9pd the Carrarmato images are very similar to the WW2 Commando images on Brit Army feet, and makes me wonder if Itshide originally bought rights in the 1930s and then developed it in the 1940s

[@UnknownUser-rb9pd]

@@Bootlosophy Speculating again but in the late 1930s, would an obscure Italian start-up company producing products that were not even widely used in the climbing world come to the attention of a British company that was probably far more interested in selling stuff to the British Empire and ex colonies. I suppose it is possible if one of the senior people was interested in the climbing world and alpinism but there were only a couple of years between Vibram's first product and WW2 starting. Back then (and up until the 1960s) the climbing/hiking consumer market didn't exist with people adapting equipment themselves and I don't think there was any "outdoor trade" as such like nowadays. In fact that is how many of today's companies began with their founders in the 1960s and 70s turning them into businesses (Patagonia, Rab, Mountain Equipment etc). There was a skiing equipment industry before that I suppose. Perhaps an email to itshide (Davies Odell) might come up with something.

[@cjanquart]

My Perry Selects came in last week, got lucky on the Black Friday sale. Break in, especially the counter, is no joke. However, standing around for a few hours at an event was no problem. I have kilties in my Nick's and JK's and don't know why White's don't have them (Nick's to the rescue as they have a selection of non-Nick's color kilties and the tan is close enough to the White's Tobacco Stampede). I'm also considering their Hybrid Wedge in all black and blacking out the white stitching just for fun and seeing if I can get a high polish out of them.

[@curtshelp6170]

Bummer you suffered a broken stitch. I have two pairs of the Perry Mac toe,The original and the hybrid Christy. Both have been trouble free and very comfortable. We can only hope that you were unlucky and the stitch was a fluke.

[@Bootlosophy]

I’m sure it’s a (bad) fluke

[@doublebase6509]

Excellent video. I have these on order in the black. I assumed it was nubuck leather. Be careful conditioning nubuck in distressed brown, it’ll darken them quite a bit. I’ll be doing a review when I get mine. It is disappointing that the two piece Moc split apart so soon! I plan on working these things very very hard, and performing follow up videos as I go. Got to say I’m very concerned about the durability now after seeing the Moc split so soon. We’ll see how it goes.

[@garysprague2009]

I kinda think that it’s a fluke that his stitch split. I wear my Perry’s while standing on 260 degree asphalt and getting them sprayed down with diesel fuel and have had no issues with either pairs of mine

[@Bootlosophy]

@@garysprague2009 The odd defect will happen with even the best brands. That’s life!

[@doublebase6509]

@@garysprague2009that’s what I’m hoping. I think you always take a chance when you buy a true two piece Moc toe, but usually it’s a simply repair even if it doesn’t split a bit. Good to know your Perry’s are holding up! I ordered a pair of those too, the Perry Select 8 inch, forget the color but it was the traditional brown/orangy colored leather. Looking forward to getting both of them...have no idea when they’ll come in. I will hammer both pairs, I can tell you that.

[@garysprague2009]

You will especially love the selects. They are definitely a step above the regular Perry’s mine are the British tan double shot. The leather has a very nice pull up and the included leather laces set them off too

[@cjanquart]

@@doublebase6509 sounds like the Tobacco Stampede, I have a some Perry Selects in 6" and they got a tad darker with Leather Honey. I didn't "ruin" them but they're not the same color, but at least have a modicum of conditioning.

[@davidkean6985]

Hello-I know you have several pairs of Whites. So, I recently fractured my ankle. I have White's Perry 6 in brown distress with the black hybrid sole. But, I am thinking of getting some Fultons. I want the extra height. I have the Perry in brown distress so I was thinking about getting black. Do you have any White's boots made of that same black leather? Would you have a preference between the black and brown. I think I like the brown but I have that leather. So I was thinking of going with the black. What do you think?

[@Bootlosophy]

I don’t have experience of the black

[@garysprague2009]

That is a shame you had those issues. I have Perry and Perry selects and have not had those issues. I actually wear the regular Perry’s to work in asphalt paving roads and they are holding up fine. Also just received a pair of waxed flesh cinnamon mp’s with half lug sole. They are a work of art.

[@robgarza6521]

Hello from San Antonio, TX. Had a question for you Tek. How soft is the honey lug sole? debating on whether to get these or the Thursday Hero in waxed rough out. Is the honey lug squishy, or quite solid?

[@Bootlosophy]

Medium, like Timberland

[@robgarza6521]

Thank you sir. Your channel is great.

[@UnknownUser-rb9pd]

Personally I prefer GYW to stitch down which just seems to complicate things unnecessarily. Any boot with a stitched on sole is unlikely to be as waterproof as a glued boot and the genuine moc toe is just going to make water resistance worse (one piece uppers are much better) so why pay more for something that is unlikely to be a benefit and is going to make a resole more expensive and harder. I feel the same way about leather heel stacks which are fine for dressy boots but offer less shock resistance, are vulnerable to water and complicate re-soles. However, having a separate heel unit is helpful as the heel usually wears out quicker than the rest of the boot.

[@davidmcintyre2578]

What color of kiltie did you go with from Dales to match these boots? I want the same set up you have.

[@Bootlosophy]

I think these turned out to be Seidel double shot

[@davidmcintyre2578]

I didn’t see that one on there website 🤔

[@jorge23483]

Well, that intro was like channeling the inner blue collar almost every man have 😂 There's something that doesn't convince me about this moc toe🤔 to be honest the MP are more appealing to me but yeah, the price of this Moctoe is more competitive, I guess. That split should have been a deal break, and yes, as you said, these are supposed to be work boots from a renowned company so it shouldn't have this problem, but I understand why you decided to keep them, I would have done the same. Thank you for the video PS. I think Dale should start selling watch straps. PS 2nd. Nothing like imagining myself in khaki shirt, Chinos and these moctoe boots running away from a rampaging Dinosaur 🦖... 😂

[@Bootlosophy]

1. Dale’s Leatherworks watch straps, yeah! 2. Sam Neill for the win!

[@vladyslav4]

Why didn't you restich that broken stitch?

[@Bootlosophy]

Listen to the video again, I did

[@vladyslav4]

@@Bootlosophy sorry , I only heard that your cobbler glued it together

[@Bootlosophy]

@@vladyslav4 no worries - at 13:44 I said “glue and stitch”

[@rogerr.8507]

I dont trust moc toes at all, for exactly that failure. Nevermind Whites or cheaper boots.

[@christopherdavisson617]

I've owned Moc Toes from Red Wing and White's. (I actually have a pair of these exact boots) I've never had a problem with reliability or durability from any of them. I'd say this is a 1 off issue where a bad stitch happened to come loose.

[@anthonyclark9159]

Literally millions of people wear moc toes to work and the failure is almost never an issue.

[@christopherdavisson617]

@@anthonyclark9159 yeh Moc Toes have been used in Roofing and Concrete construction for decades. The only thing that ever goes is the sole. And considering that's a Honey Lug Vibram sole? I don't see that being and issue. Like I said, mine are doing great so far.

[@Nathan-zw7nq]

The great thing about Moc toes is that if you have even a little experience in sewing, you can fix it yourself when it happens. You are right, it is prone to happening with the Mic Toe design. But the Moc Toe is easily repaired with some hand sewing. Buy some leather needles and good cobblers thread and get to sewing!

[@r0r5ch4ch69]

The worst intro of all time

[@dark_gravity_edc]

Great video and review. I hate to see you had a blow out. I've had mine for nearly 2 years and they're solid. I wear them for construction work, yard work and riding motorcycle. I think it was a fluke yours blew. Definitely unfortunate.

[@Bootlosophy]

Yeah, I think so too. It happens.