Review: Philips X-tremeVision T10/W5W white 4000K LEDs

[@CraigsDIY]

Amazon links to relevant products (from the description): Philips X-tremeVision W5W LED - US: amzn.to/2nuCRJC | UK: amzn.to/2nKHEHn Osram LEDriving /Sylvania Zevo alternative - US: amzn.to/2arPNee | UK: amzn.to/2cgnWf9

[@albiritu]

Do you prefer Philips or Osram ?

[@jesusalexandergarciamendez4337]

Craig's DIY Car demasiada paja!

[@krollpeter]

I like these 4000 k better. It is not the brightest but it lasts. It is the right compromise in between the cold light 6000k Led and the too yellowish filament bulbs. I installed also my headlights with 4300k.

[@emilz85]

Of these LEDs I tried both old and new PHILIPS bulbs, and OSRAM bulbs, all 4000K. Conclusion: PHILIPS Ultinon 4000K (old ones, no yellow ring): brightness is good, diffusor better than osram, could call it warm white, but slightly on the greenish side, so would not really recommend to install in interior of the car if you want accurate color tone. I have these as front parking lights, as the color tone is quite close to dipped beam halogens, whereas Osrams looked out of place. PHILIPS X-treme Vision 4000K (yellow ring): true warm white, most accurate color tone of all, also better diffusor compared to osram. Best for interior in my opinion. OSRAM warm white 4000K: color tone most blue-ish of all, if that's what you want, go for it. However, if you want neutral warmish white, stick with PHILIPS X-treme vision. I have these as door courtesy lights.

[@AlessandroLicata1993]

hello, nice video. in your opinion which are the best W5W 4000k? in my car I have installed these Philips but some have told me that the Osram Ledriving premium are brighter and more beautiful to look at, what do you think?

[@StanislavTPetkov]

Are these bright enough for daytime running lights?

[@Waybeyond]

Any idea why the new packaging shows 45lm instead of the earlier 50? Both 4000K and 6000K are now showing 45lm on the box and the specs on the website completely avoid providing the luminous flux. Do you have any background info on this, perhaps? :)

[@CraigsDIY]

No idea sorry. I assume the update is more accurate. Both are reasonable figures for the measured power. Flux would not be a useful spec as it depends on the housing/reflector/lens and distance.

[@Waybeyond]

@@CraigsDIY Thanks. That I perfectly understand, yet flux is what matters with 'standards' - e.g. W5W T10 bulb needs to have 50 lm to have the lovely 'E' letter for road approval. It appears they aimed at making a perfect replacement, with the same specs, despite no homologation, to have it ready in case the EU law would eventually change. Now we see that as X-tremeVision they had 50lm (hard to get them now) and current X-tremeUltinon has 45lm on the box. Weird :) With flux, we can see in C5W / C10W, as in your reviews. I have both Osram and Philips Festoon LEDs, Osram has 35 lm, Philips 45 lm according to manufacturers, tried them both and as you said - Osram spreads the light nicely, but it's only good for vampires ;) Philips has 45lm compared to 115lm of my C10W bulb that it replaced, and yet it ensures more light inside, despite not using the lamp's reflector as a non-directional bulb would.

[@DriveWithAndy]

I want these but more white but then their 6000k ones are a bit too blue. Is there any 5000k frosted 501 frosted LEDs?

[@T_t418]

does the dome cover part do anything if it is accidentally come off? will there be any hazardous to use in the interior lamp without the dome that cover the led chip?

[@CraigsDIY]

It's just a diffuser. Take it off if you prefer.

[@T_t418]

@@CraigsDIY thanks, it just come off accidentally during the installation process and the pin that hold that cover is snap in half. the bulb itself sits in the box for more than 2 years, open the box today and that diffuser thing feels wobbles.

[@-EvoII-]

Should this work for my 2019 mazda 3? My car have leds all arround, exept the drl/city lights. It's halogen now. That bulb contains 2 functions, city light and day running light. Now I'm looking for a canbus proof led option to replace them.

[@CraigsDIY]

These aren't really powerful enough to replace an OEM DRL, and obviously they're not a dual mode bulb. What bulb format is Mazda using.

[@-EvoII-]

Craig's DIY Car Mazda is using T20

[@CraigsDIY]

I've also reviewed Philips' amber T10 bulbs: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bonEfIGEaamdhJI

[@AndreiIR000]

@Craig's DIY Car: You could mention that these bulbs are not street legal and if mounted in a car that monitors burned-out bulbs the controller will present a "burned-out" bulb error on the dash.

[@BluTrollPro]

Andrei Rînea The legality depends where you are, in the UK sidelight bulbs are relatively unregulated, so these can be fitted perfectly legally, and are not massively noticeable over a halogen. However in countries like Germany, and much of Scandinavia to my knowledge, LED sidelight bulbs are not TÜV certified.

[@user-fy]

Hi. Have you a picture with comparing LEDs W5W Osram and Philips? Where is the better light?

[@CraigsDIY]

There's little point in a video comparison as they're so similar you won't see the difference. I don't think one is better. The Philips measured a slightly warmer color, and has a stronger diffuser - I suggest you choose based on that.

[@user-fy]

ok, thanks.

[@kodai_fa5]

Question: I originally thought the "defuser" was a protective shipping piece designed to protect the LED chip from shipping and from oily fingers. I nearly removed them thinking that was the case. I watch this video and it seems that I need to keep them on so they can defuse the light better. Is that correct?

[@CraigsDIY]

If you want the light diffused it is. It essentially creates slightly softer light, and projects it sideways better. If you need less diffusion look at the Osram versions (linked to in desc) which is what I have in my car as they are behind separate fresnel lenses.

[@PanameraGTS555]

Can we fit these on dacia duster

[@spartanrider5614]

What sort of power draw did the standard filament bulb produce

[@CraigsDIY]

They're 5 watt bulbs.

[@6ixtynine]

Hi guys. Excellent reviews. I need help in choosing T10 for my parker lights to match factory 4300k HIDs. I need a T10 that spreads out light to the reflective backing as seen in halogen housings. Can’t decide which is best. Osram or this Philips design or is there a better design out there? Will osram and Philips 4000k match factory HIDs well? Thanks in advance.

[@CraigsDIY]

Neither generates a back-firing light, as they are basically just forward firing chips with diffusers. The diffuser however does do a good job of sending the light sideways so your reflector housing will get some use. The Philips has a stronger diffuser as discussed and shown in the video. However the Osram ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJXFcp6qjdh9bq8 ) tested at a slightly cooler temperature, closer to your 4300K desired. So if you care most about color matching I would go with them. All detailed in both videos so they will give you all the info needed. I'm not aware of any better options.

[@6ixtynine]

Craig's DIY Car Thanks for the response and advice. Appreciate it.

[@jahirodavila1340]

Todos los led de Philips son cambus ? , Saludos

[@Techiemotorist]

nicely explained thanx a lot

[@abhisheksreedhar7997]

❤️

[@GeorgeEI7KO]

do they flicker?

[@CraigsDIY]

No.

[@1marcelfilms]

they should make a 2700k LED so it looks stock

[@toyotabrony]

Then look up Diode Dynamics. They carry T10 with 3000k classic/warm white. If that’s what u want to go for.

[@simpleautothings_official3549]

4000k is not pure white its warm white... The box is correct

[@daijoubu4529]

Warm white is 2700-3000k, 4000k is pure/neutral white, 5000k is cool, 6000k is daylight

[@dujalowlife]

what about error bulb on dashboard, canbus?

[@CraigsDIY]

Yes it will set one if the car expects a 5 W bulb and is monitoring it, like all LED retrofits.

[@dujalowlife]

Craig's DIY Car thanks, and can you make a video about replacing a foglight on golf 6

[@Elia_Ali]

@@CraigsDIY so what is the solution for that? How to install a canbus for say reading lights?

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

@@Elia_Ali You have to buy "canbus" LED bulbs, or fit a resistor/adapter. That will also fix the fast flashing problem if you use LEDs in indicators.

[@navdeepstars]

@@BlatentlyFakeName so fixing the error in 5w bulbs will fix the hyper flashing in blinkers or we need fix led blinkers seprately??

[@karzygijose]

3030 chips are supposed to be good

[@daijoubu4529]

The Chinese have cloned that bulb, buck each for 5pcs

[@toyotabrony]

@@daijoubu45293030 SMD led chips are better.

[@stevemoore999]

Craig, can you do a video on how to replace the front cup holder on a Mondeo mk3

[@CraigsDIY]

Do you mean the retractable one in the center console? If so you need to take out the console, then it just unscrews. See here kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqDLfqmEo5qsf68

[@stevemoore999]

Thanks, but was wondering if it can be replaced without having to take centre console out, my drinks don't stand up straight, they learn right over to the left, so much so they fall out

[@CraigsDIY]

No you definitely have to remove the console. It's not that hard. Watch the other video and after I've taken it out you can get a glimpse of the cupholder from behind. I remove the climate control box in that vid but it's the same principle, all those bits and pieces screw into the console from the back.

[@stevemoore999]

Ok thanks for replying

[@Balakullampatti]

It's suitable for Honda hornet bike

[@Kaiser187]

4000k is yellowish. 5000k is pure white.

[@Elia_Ali]

Does it require a canbus?

[@felipezilli1475]

Its a way too expensive, i prefer use premium chinese brands like Maxgtrs, its more brigher, much more cheaper, and still reliable, since have a good heat dissipation, and uses same chips as Philips and Osram, SMD, 3030, etc...

[@toyotabrony]

There’s some brands that are brighter and better than Philips. But longevity, Philips is better along with Osram.

[@Johans60]

Life time should be proven yet, i have had different LED T10 used they all did not last long, much lesser dan the incedesant bulb

[@CraigsDIY]

Mine are still good. The name brands like Philips and Osram should be fine, LEDs should outlast filaments by a long time.

[@DazTheMe]

Had these as sidelights for nearly 4 years, and my job is night driving. they're still perfect.

[@rkstechworld9539]

I need the Philips led bulbs 20 no

[@nashmay1304]

4000k has never been pure white. Never will. So the box was totally correct

[@michaelmcsky]

I used it, you will get canbus errors.

[@bobzeda]

I never got any canbus errors. I have them through-out the car. What kind of car do you have ? Mercedes?

[@bggboss]

off road use only ... be careful

[@toyotabrony]

For what? Their just indicator led bulbs. They are not ultra bright. Brighter than stock yes but no one will ever pull u over, over a tiny led marker light. So ignore that for off-road use only nonsense. We got no issues on that whatsoever. We prefer modernize the look of our vehicles. And they look much better.