Reviewing Dragon Ball's Animation - Does it hold up?

[@AntwoneAntJackson]

Katsumi Aoshima did episodes by herself? That's a lot of drawings !!! Bless these animators

[@forgottenrelics1197]

For most episodes yeah, there occasionally were one's where another animator would help her out like Hideko Okimoto but in most cases she handled all the KA herself!

[@greenknight9000]

Fun Fact: Studio Junio was the studio who animated the Opening and Ending animations for Sonic CD!

[@DmDaPDm]

It’s one thing to know that Uchiyama was behind so many of the derp faces and poor animation in DBZ, but to know he was also a pushy supervisor and would correct great drawings to look worse is sad. If I was a mangaka I would try and say something coz thanks to him there a many golden moments that don’t hold up nowadays.

[@phcookie.t]

Timestamps: Introduction - 00:00 Studio Last House - 02:34 Studio Junio - 09:12 Studio Live - 17:09 Studio Seigasha - 22:31 Shindo Production - 26:45 Katsumi Aoshima - 29:02 Conclusion - 30:45 This video focuses on Dragon Ball. NOT Dragon Ball Z, GT or Super.

[@robin1418]

Hisashi Eguchi is my favorite animator in the entire franchise. Sad he doesn't have the same recognition as some of his colleagues.

[@mechajay3358]

He's more known for his work on the Sonic CD Cutsecene Animations. When he heard that design of Sonic was called "Toei Sonic," he actually corrected the phrase in that since Studio Junio was the ones who design him, he's accurately should be called "Junio Sonic"

[@santiagomoralesgarcia1802]

Fantastic job. I want to say when 23rd tournament was animated, all the studios did a great job, because it is one of the most consistent animated arcs in dragonball serie.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Agreed, I think that just about every studio's best entries were within that arc!

[@KameZX]

I honestly like how your layout changes every video it’s pretty neat

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Glad to see it's noticed haha, I try my best to keep it fresh.

[@RaiJolt2]

@@forgottenrelics1197good work!

[@misirlou23]

Beautiful intro, was not expecting that, you've got a great taste for aesthetically pleasing things

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Thanks, wanted to try out something a little different this time!

[@JeromeProductions]

Yup even the music

[@JesceeC]

"honey, wake up, a new forgotten relics video just dropped"

[@HustlerHorstRuediger]

DB Dissection and new ForgottenRelics Video on the same day? Am I dead? Is this heaven?

[@betablaze]

The legend Ebisawa returns.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

it's been a while but it was due time for his return😤

[@eduardoneves3070]

Such an ambitious video. Congrats. Certainly i appreciate how Aoshima single-handled animated good episodes with certain short-commings. And also underappreciated Mari Tominaga. It was an excelent memory lane

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Thanks man!

[@wormHD]

Studio Junio definitely is my favorite studio for Dragon Ball because like you said animators were able to freely express their style and I think the unique appearance of episode is what dragon is really about when it comes to animation. You can even see this today where toei experiements with cgi in a major dragon ball movie. On a side note I really appreciated this new polish and professionalism you put into your videos and I hope your future videos are just like this.

[@pezoya]

Thanks for this analysis! I dont have any idea of animation but i can identify a good work. When I saw the first fight between Goku and Ten Shin, 30 years ago, in the world tournament final, I was amazed.

[@drewsipherthehedgehog388]

just a masterpiece of a video in depth animation analysis

[@VincentGordon]

Well done work, your formatting was clear and easy to follow. I didn’t know too much about the dragon ball side of pre-production, so I really appreciate you catching me up in a video as good as this

[@forgottenrelics1197]

No problem dude!

[@j.r.1704]

This is definitely your best video yet! I can’t imagine how long it took to sift through all the individual drawings for each studio, and researching the artists themselves, but the work definitely payed off. I really appreciate all the effort that went into this project

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Yep this one was definitely time-consuming haha but I'm happy you enjoyed it :)

[@zackwaffen9210]

honestly dude i love your channel, most underrated dragon ball channel on youtube

[@ade1174]

Thank you for the video. I love the original Dragon Ball, so I'm glad you gave it some love. Naotoshi Shida and Masaki Sato have my favorite cuts.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

No problem, I do too, it was due time I did a video on it!

[@akil5695]

Glad you are back

[@Waqas_Khan02]

Best video of you so far I love how you go into details of every studio who worked in Dragon Ball And also teaching us the definition of animation, timing, key animation etc. I hope you will also do for DBZ GT and Super. Out of all these my personal favourite studio would be Studio Junio Their animation is very iconic whenever I think of DBZ early episodes. And also they replicates some parts of the manga so accurate that it feels like the manga has come to life in anime. I hope we see something like this in Super. When the anime returns.

[@KremBotop]

Learned a lot of stuff in this video, such as a few of the deep cut animators like Tominaga, so you did an amazing job with this one. Speaking of Tominaga and her post-DB work, big kudos for showcasing a scene of best sailor scout Minako at 22:11 :3

[@ayerooown]

This new style of video is so much better goddamn

[@basheerc.7245]

Amazing video!! Love the in-depth analysis; not many ppl in the db community go as in-depth as you, greatly appreciated 👌🏽 And the production was really great, I remember watching your older videos back when, you’ve come a long way, can’t wait to see ur channel grow🫡🔥

[@thelegendoflink9140]

when watching the original Dragon Ball series in the newly remastered version, the animation really holds up! ofc its old school, but its still better in some cases against the newly digitally animated stuff we get now. not talking about DBZ here, that one still needs a re-done remastered version.

[@Gaming_Hub_UK]

This was a great entry and really shows your personal research in the behind the scenes and production. It also helps me as an artist to understand important aspects of drawing a character from different perspectives of different artists in the animation teams behind dragon ball. Other than that videos like this really help people also understand how any position in an animation industry is vital and hard with the pressure from the higher ups on the supervisors. And it's just fun to sit back and enjoy these videos with great background music and learn something different.

[@MazingerDestro]

Stiffmanuki is a legend

[@primordialpredominant6379]

Finallly!! I was craving a new video so bad

[@derock4art608]

I love this video! Great research! It is cool that you found more by Aoshima outside Dragon Ball. She's so underrated and one of my favorites outside Junio's team. She boarded and animated while episodes and her character art and animation is insanely good. 2nd behind Junio's episodes in my opinion. Thank you for your hard work Forgotten!

[@forgottenrelics1197]

No problem man and yeah I hope to look at some more of her work outside of DB. She solo animated a couple of episodes for Urusei Yatsura so I'm excited to get to them when I finally watch that show!

[@Unfazed1888]

Tominaga's art is sooooo freshly made. 21:38 Those look stunning, especially looking at how she rendered Launch's hair.

[@great159]

Sato was the BEST drawer HANDS DOWN!💯

[@sydneyowusu3750]

No debate.

[@Pepega580]

What a great video. I really enjoyed it. Thanks to you i get to know these wonderful animators who made my childhood a blast with db and DBZ.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Glad you did! Thank you.

[@TheHypersonic55]

This is such a good, comprehensive and wonderfully crafted video. Through Anime Ajay and your videos I've learnt a great deal about the studios and animators beyond DB and I'll always be grateful for you taking the time and laying all this info and imagery out in a clear and insightful way. :D

[@AkatsukiClash]

Worth the wait. Great editing. Thank you so much, always. 🙏

[@PenaKULatta]

I like the yellow/blue video layout.

[@justsometokyodollar1842]

the president is back with yet another masterpiece

[@SuperSaiyanMaster2024]

You and Geekdom are my favorite Dragon Ball related KZbinrs.

[@as-zb5ge]

Probably your best vid yet! Really informative and entertaining at the same time. Also love the change for layout for this video

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Ayee great and glad you like the layout!

[@skl00t84]

That intro though 👌 This is constantly trying new things

[@UnspokenAnime]

As soon as DBS comes back your channel will blow up . So plz don’t stop your videos help me so much with learning animation , especially for dragon ball !

[@specialnewb9821]

Well that was comprehensive, informative and interesting. Time flew by while watching. Thanks to watching your channel for a while, when I saw someone commenting on some particular animation in an episode of DBZ, I was able to explain who did it and why it might have looked that way based on their particular style.

[@Roshuwah]

Those scenes from the second studio with the Goku vs piccolo and Tien fights are just so crisp!!

[@Y-two-K]

You always know your stuff and never fail to impress. Thanks!

[@pr0digy141]

Imo the cell saga and buu saga has the best animation. Edit: great video relics and that clean intro though sheesh.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

For sure, Seigasha's entries were at their best, and Studio Cockpit came on at that time as well!

[@OXhuls]

boi oh boi. this is gonna be a treat!

[@JoJo-yw6ew]

Ooo nice seeing a longer video

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Thanks! This one probably took the longest to make haha

[@JoJo-yw6ew]

@@forgottenrelics1197 keep up the good work bro watching these videos help me a lot for nice reviews and inspirations on drawing dragon ball or drawing in general

[@iamtheonetheonlyone2674]

You made it again dude, you made me satisfy on your videos. Lit videos as always dude so informative

[@ritorapid]

keep it up bro! i always share your yt ch whenever i see heated discussions in groups, pages, forums in regard to db animations. as always, I love your content.

[@mechajay3358]

You really stepped up you game in this video, the layout and editing looks nice.

[@MrGoodCompany]

Another fantasic video.

[@AntwoneAntJackson]

SATO is a legend fr fr

[@oofooar2565]

You’re one of the most unique dragon ball KZbinrs I love your content so much ✨

[@AntwoneAntJackson]

When I grow up I want to be like Nakatsuru

[@forgottenrelics1197]

good dream

[@xmobstersal4167]

I enjoyed this a lot as much as I can mean it! ❤️❤️

[@asadkhokhar4766]

Here before this blows up.

[@cjkalandek996]

Gonna get hate for this. Well, animation-wise, it's fine. Art style-wise, it is really jarring how each episode had a different art style because it was a different animation director or studio or both working on that particular episode. I wouldn't mind so much, except some art styles were better than others and the lesser quality style episodes, I felt, became irrelevant to me as the series was taking on a more serious tone as it went on. This is one thing I appreciate more with the more modern Anime and _Dragon Ball Super,_ because the art style(s) were more consistent throughout their run.

[@jyk011609]

💯 I legit dreaded every time an episode from Last House or Live Studios came on 😅

[@Chris-toe-fer]

Favorite video so far

[@rjthegood]

Great stuff!

[@jakesghost5267]

This was amazing please keep up this quality if possible

[@GameMaster0097]

Loved the video!!

[@craigime]

definitely worth the wait... thanks bro

[@BigDaddyCola]

Love this content and breakdown of the animators. Thank you!

[@ultimaweapon6]

So since everyone here seems to know a good bit about animators There's a specific scene I've always wanted to know the animator And I was hoping maybe somebody would know. It's not dragon ball it's the finalFight in attack on Titan season one When the berserk flame titan rushes the female titan. It's a gorgeous piece of animation and I've always wanted to know who did it Figured I might get my answer here

[@forgottenrelics1197]

If you're referring to this scene - www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/16164 It would be Yuuko Sera and Yasuyuki Ebara :)

[@ultimaweapon6]

@@forgottenrelics1197 yes that's it exactly thank you so much. I searched for hours and didn't find My answer

[@forgottenrelics1197]

@@ultimaweapon6 ayee awesome

[@frankg111]

Thanks for this. It’s so great to finally know more about the animation side of this series

[@phcookie.t]

If you were to rank these studios, from your favourite to least favourite, how would you do so?

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Hmm that's hard, I won't give a full ranking but my favorite would have to Junio and my least being Shindo Pro

[@phcookie.t]

@@forgottenrelics1197 Yeah, I respect that.

[@JeromeProductions]

Another great video

[@Iceteague1]

Favorite Studio in DB for me. 1. Junio 2. Seigasha 3. Last House 4. Katsumi Aoshima 5. Studio Live 6. Shino Production I think Last House is personally my favorite just for the animators and their output being good for the most part but Junio does have the best looking episodes by far in the series.

[@monjikhechini9724]

Great video as usual. Amazing analysis very entertaining and informative. Thank you.

[@jakesimpson3373]

Goku vs Krillin will forever remain one of my favorite fights in the entire franchise, and it has a large part to do with the excellent animation

[@fransicogonsalez857]

Great video. I enjoy all your videos!

[@anthonysmith3415]

you're infinitely better than AnimeAjaym you actually put out content

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Idk I much prefer to watch his content than mine haha and he's working for totally not mark now, which is mainly why there's a lack of content.

[@anthonysmith3415]

@@forgottenrelics1197 you're basically videl and Ajay is Mr.Satan, you've probably already surpassed him and haven't realized it yet

[@Waqas_Khan02]

Ajay is fine What I like about Relics is that he go into detail about the animators and their animation skill. Even the person who has zero knowledge about animation would understand what he is talking.

[@dinogt8477]

Relics is way better

[@AkatsukiClash]

Oh, Uchiyama... but I get it... consistency.

[@jonnysith]

I love everything about og dragon ball.

[@007psyren]

Damn man i love the animation from the 80s n 90s. I would actually say it was the golden age of anime still at that time…

[@ultimaweapon6]

30 mins?? Damn this mustve been a tough video

[@forgottenrelics1197]

It was haha, started on it in early april

[@VitorCesar]

great video by the way

[@KarmaHoudiniGaming]

待てたぜ

[@theultimatetrashman887]

18:38 So now we know who made the Omega Forehead Vegeta (Full forehead power)

[@Idk_what_to_name_the_acc]

If we're talking about NORMAL DRAGON BALL FOREVER then my favorite animator is either Nakatsuru or Masahiro Shimunaki

[@cubli697alex]

Hello sir, new subscriber here! Love your videos. Studio Pierrot outsourced quite a bit of Naruto Shippuden episodes as well. Do you ever plan on covering that series sir cause That’d be dope man. Btw your channel deserves more love man tbh, not a lot ppl pay enough attention to this sort of thing.

[@atpstudios8075]

What is that anime called at 4 mins and 15 mark!? Guy in the brown jacket and brown hair fighting looks insane

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Yeah that scene blew me away when I first saw it and it's from street fighter alpha: generations 👍

[@peacegaming9428]

ebisawa did great in original db, his drawing on kid goku is so cute, cuz he looks chubby

[@joshuaowens4095]

Hey I really love your videos and would def enjoy a video on why Katsumi Aoshima is a legend

[@K_The_creator]

1:50 this may have influenced the now infamous flying ring of sonic the hedgehog the one that has the wings that sonic and others go through on the title screen

[@RÅNÇIÐ]

yes

[@paris-1911]

Have to admit, didn’t know Aoshima was female. The community referred to her as a guy for _many_ years lol Good to know, though.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Yeah I only found out last year, then forgot again until making this video haha

[@gespenst1329]

@@forgottenrelics1197 Any source for that information though? Not even Kanzenshuu seems to know. (Plus "Katsumi" wouldn't give that impression. Even Kei17 from JP doesn't think that's the case.)

[@ms.antithesis]

lov the vid qualityy

[@forgottenrelics1197]

ayeee thanks!

[@ms.antithesis]

@@forgottenrelics1197I was confused at why you wherent uploa8dng many proper videos but now I get it man, this is genuinely great editing, must have took you timmeee

[@YunaLuni]

Nice

[@akil5695]

I have a question., why do some people believe that a certain episode being well is because of budget especially an anime like dragon ball why?

[@forgottenrelics1197]

I think it's because in general people tend to think the more money something has behind it, the better the product will be. Then add the fact that your general fan has little knowledge about the animation industry, it's kinda natural they'll latch onto pretty simplistic answers.

[@akil5695]

@@forgottenrelics1197 sad ,also some people see heroes and how polished the art is and they conclude that its well animated and finally thanks for the reply and knowledge and about animation

[@VitorCesar]

do you know the studios who work on one piece? like studio Magic Bus

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Nah not really familiar with OP's production outside of some of the Toei animators that are on it.

[@UnofficialStudios]

I think there was Studio Peacock, Studio Guts, Asahi Productions, and Studio Cosmo from what I know. Asahi is the main photography studio behind One Piece’s compositing in Wano, with Peacock being an outsourcing studio focused on compositing as well (not 100% sure on that tho), and Cosmo and Guts did animation for some episodes, tho you don’t see Cosmo often on the anime. The newest Studio I saw on the anime was Studio Masket.

[@TiburonChico]

Peak vid

[@mika9383]

You are going to do the sequel Dragon Ball Z to this video, right?

[@gywii]

Wow, where do you find all this stuff?

[@blackholemonkey]

what anime is being shown when he talks about hiroyuki imaishi at 4:12?

[@sharkanenoa5928]

i am starting to realize something... you know how steven universe had inconsistent animation from episode to episode. hell within scene to scene in a single EPISODE. i think the creator was trying to pay homage to dragon ball in that sense except its on purpose

[@DmDaPDm]

6:42 - 6:56 is painful to watch. Only god knows how many ‘corrections’ uchiyama ruined.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

that it is haha

[@StrangerHappened]

*I personally hated* the transition of the style to arched triangle eyes the anime did in the 1990s. Especially on female characters.

[@ken-vk3pc]

nicee

[@tvmrepic]

The Original DragonBall is the only DragonBall with circle eyes. To me, circle eyes are more anime.

[@yakisobapancake1234]

Uchiyama is so bad that I ended up loving his style.