Reviewing Fate Route (Visual Novel, Anime, Manga) - Fate Route In-Depth (7000 Subs)

[@SeaTactics]

List of ideas for Fate videos, and suggest more if you have topics or things you want me to check out. Fate/Prototype Garden of Avalon Lancer's original master

[@its_saam9459]

There is a disturbing lack of fate strange fake content, maybe do something on that?

[@SeaTactics]

Fate Strange Fake, I shall look into it.

[@josel3599]

Garden of Avalon plzz

[@someguywithabirdface2583]

Lancers original master

[@shaminabalamo525]

O saber pull caliburn not excaliber

[@curtisobrian8241]

One thing I think a lot of people don't understand about the situation with Shirou's seemingly misogynistic comments is that, to him, she looks like a 15 year old girl. No matter how strong a 15 year old girl might be, no sane and moral person would want to see them fighting to death against anyone else for any reason. Most people wouldn't want to see 15 year old boys doing that (child soldiers are bad), even. Us saying things like "she's strong, she can handle herself" is not taking into account how the characters view the situation. She is strong, Shirou knows she's strong. She still gets nearly killed by lancer and torn apart by Berserker.

[@SeaTactics]

I agree, I think not even regarding her physical age/looks, there is also an element of being human where you don't want to see that happen to a person you like. Let's even say this was in UBW or HF, I would still sympathies with Shirou jumping in front of Berserker. Shirou is just a person who would do that to save someone, and I think that while the original material doesn't convey that very human emotion as good as it could and leaves too much up to the viewer to decide what his reasoning is for (because that's still important, it's not good writing to leave it up to the viewer), we can still appreciate what was trying to be said. I think the way the scene should have been handled was how they handled it in Ufotable's UBW. It is pretty interesting to break that little aspect about Shirou's character down though, once you go beyond just Fate Route.

[@arowmorth]

Yeah, i agree. We are the viewer, so we or many of us know about lore and have a different perspective on somet things, but "Fate" Shirou at first dosnt and its takes time for him to understand and accept too (since Shirou denies many things in his head quite long time and uses out right strange excuses, esp his Fate version, sicne he still develops his mindset), plus Artoria is really stack at 15-16 years physically. Also just to be fair, Nasu could write it better, so its one of many reasons why VN needs Remake.

[@tacticalwizard6358]

Yeah...adding to that Shirou's own obsession that can't stand anyone else coming in harm's way for his sake, and there you have it. And the VN isn't even trying to justify it. They are just giving reasons for his behavior.

[@silveryo7678]

Shirou wasn't actually a sexist homie, Shirou kept saying the things about "saber not fighting because she's a girl" because he was using it as an excuse

[@Neonvarun]

This And His Reckless Actions Were The Only Things That Made Me Mad. I Hate When Anime MC Say Women Can't Fight Becz There Girl. Makes Me Puke 😂

[@kiwisorbet]

He once said it's for the better that (the captain of thr archery club) was almost aggressed because it would teach her some feminity.

[@mohamedelhediissa289]

The author himself didn't support your theory

[@technoblode4604]

@@kiwisorbet It was a translation error, im pretty sure.

[@whateverwhatever4476]

@@kiwisorbet that’s a mistranslation

[@LORDOFDRAGONS555]

Finally a review of the original fate saber route THANK YOU

[@SeaTactics]

I really enjoyed making this video. I've always been a fan of the Fate Route despite its flaws and I hope one day Aniplex and Sony will give it another chance. Which I think they will, I don't see why not.

[@danck941]

I want a Fate Route remake too! I'm not sure why they wouldn't do this. Isn't Saber the most popular character from Fate? Why would they not think people would want this. I know everyone said that DeenStayNight anime is not worth watching, but I'm going to anyway as I'm to much of a Saber not to. She's my favorite character from Fate and one of my wifus.

[@TheFantomsLair]

Actually, the fanbase of the Fate route started a petition to ask ufotable to have a new adaptation made now that the other routes were completed. You can find it by searching for fate route remake. Even if it won't do much, it looks good if we get a large number on it, and maybe we get an update if it's possible at all or not. KZbin sadly deletes my comment with the link. It's on ~800 signatures atm.

[@alphawolf7417]

To me it's still the best route to start the series on. And that's why I'm sad so many people ignore it.

[@JoshuaDMarti]

Actually, as how it has been proved just recently, the most famous servant right now is Gilgamesh. And as much as you don't like it TM still treats he Deen adaption as the proper Fate route anime even after all these years, they clearly don't have any need to do one now.

[@danck941]

@@JoshuaDMarti Thanks for the information.

[@lvxix9686]

Because Everyone Appreciated what Studio Deen doing with Fate Stay Night, that's why no one will dare to make a Remake except if Studio Deen itself want to do it

[@maximusprime6768]

One thing I'll say about the visual novel is I LOVE how animated the fight scenes were. Without using actual animation per say, it would instead show still images zoomed in at parts, screen shakes etc to give the idea of an animated scene. I have never seen any other visual novel do this so well, even modern ones fall short to this!

[@lilbaz5412]

Funny thing about the mana transfer thing is that it happened in "tsukihime" too, it's a thing that happens surprisingly often in the nasuverse

[@TDOMMX]

Without going into spoilers: a lot of your wish list regarding the final battle with Kotomine has already happened (or, from your vantage point, will happen) in Heaven's Feel. Kirei is an incredible character, both as an ally and an enemy, and the latter half of HF really dial up how badass he can be. Even if he is a complete sociopath, his motivations are somewhat commendable And his final fight? You'll appreciate it when the time comes.

[@spider1k460]

This video deserves so much more attention man, love the effort you put in.

[@xolotltolox7626]

1:53 "with its contemporaries of the time" Spoken like a true Fate character

[@GAarcher]

*Just because he is incorrect, doesn't mean he is right*

[@oo-xb6gv]

There's no reason to nerf Shirou by removing his magical circuits, it would be really cool to see Shirou in this version to be more like a knight rather than a magus. plus due to more of Saber's influence maybe he would use a single sword in fights. Overall it would be awesome to see Shirou being on par or more powerful in terms of power and skill to other routes.

[@anonnimoose7987]

Yeah. Shirou just wants to save all of the marbles in front of him. Rin: That's all? Archer: Yes, his dream is stupid.

[@Nicox27]

That was a very cool review video about the Fate route in detph, despite being the most straightforward and "basic" story of the VN, is still very memorable and not something that should be forgotten. Shirou and Saber's relationship is my definitively favourite with Sakura second and Rin third, they work so well together is only natural to be fit for each other and I think the romance in UBW was lacking when compared to HF and Fate (you could argue UBW is Archer route more than Rin route). I hope one day it gets a remake from the anime because Saber's full story is only there and you only get a little resume of it in UBW since she goes to the sidelines there and Zero with Fate works so much together for the reasons you mentioned (Rin and Kirei, Saber's past and objectives, Kiritsugu and Shirou and Illya, etc), and you forgot to mention that the OST of the anime is one of the bost soundtracks even, much better than UBW and Zero IMO

[@kirill4524]

This video is so overlooked, you've done a great job!

[@abdullahnurhussein6297]

Tnx man, i needed that recap before starting ubw. Good video too.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Fate route remake lets goooooo

[@MrInuhanyou123]

@@r.k845 ive accepted that adaptions will be different from visual novels. On its own i thought it was fine. Seeing these things in this quality is good enough..i think people have taken what we are getting out of these modern fate adaptions for granted

[@arowmorth]

@@MrInuhanyou123 True, its a healthy way of thinking (less nerves got burned) ww I will be fine with FSN Fate anime remake or FSN VN remake in the end, even tho i would prefer full greatness of Nasu writing and many of his aesthetics.

[@AmiboW]

Yea I liked rin and shirou but I feel like the show didn’t really go in depth as much as could, still amazing fights and story tho

[@alolangloom]

But you have to play the Fate route first. Unlimited Bladeworks and Heaven's Feel are locked until Fate is finished. In turn like Heaven's Feel, that route is locked until Unlimited Bladeworks is finished.

[@beatriloligirl]

Every route is a foundation for the next, and it saddens me that the first has yet to receive a proper adaption, some even skipping any form of it entirely. People need to know that Shirou and Saber have the best romance smh

[@RisingSunReviews]

I'm glad Saber-Illya is finally getting recognized as the best fate-waifu.

[@SeaTactics]

iCry

[@sorrymabbad]

I swear, even if his life depended on it, Nasu will never be able to write a normal H scene lol

[@josel3599]

Definetely need a Remake Hopefully one day also have you read the epilogue of Fate called Last Episode

[@TheFantomsLair]

Actually, the fanbase of the Fate route started a petition to ask ufotable to have a new adaptation made now that the other routes were completed. You can find it by searching for fate route remake. Even if it won't do much, it looks good if we get a large number on it, and maybe we get an update if it's possible at all or not. KZbin sadly deletes my comment with the link. It's on ~800 signatures atm.

[@chammndagold441]

shirou when get out of the mud curse and by the bower of avalon he run so fast that kirei couldn't react to him

[@Azrael_Terminus]

Great video overall. I just feel like you have a problem with sexual content to the point of not validating writing that revolves around it. For instance, when Shirou sees Saber naked when she is taking a bath, he is embarassed and the trope is subverted because Saber shows herself to Shirou to make him stop looking at her as a girl and see her as a warrior, it showcases how fundamentally different their perception of each other is and shows how Saber has deep issues in regards to her own identity. Just because it is fanservice doesn't mean its an excuse. Even regarding the infamous "mana supply" scene, I don't think that is jarring considering that sexual rituals are common practice in occulticism and I think that is more valid as an inspiration for the scene than simply fanservice, because there are various sex scenes that occur more naturally and in different scenarios.

[@kevtlee08]

The fate series was what got me into VN. I never would had considered trying it if it wasn’t for the fate route anime. I will always have a soft spot for the fate route just because it was what got me into the series as a whole. It’s not my favorite but still a great route.

[@halcyonflo0r952]

The first sex scene was just kinda contrived, but sex as a while is a huge part of some real-life rituals and such in Pagan beliefs, among other cultures. So there is a connection between sex and magic

[@hashimalz]

I just sobbed when i saw Bedivere You will know why when you watch FGO camelot Note: there is many ways in mana transfer

[@SeaTactics]

Can't wait for more Fate!

[@THENikNak]

This is a really good video. Very impressed and congrats on so many subs. Man for suggestions on other fate videos, I can’t really think of any I specifically would like to see. I mean if you ever truly run out of ideas you could always force yourself through the middle 2 seasons of Kalied and loose all faith in humanity. Like I said though better to exhaust all available options first.

[@SeaTactics]

Fun fact: there is a video I want to do about Fate... and it requires I watch more Kaleid. Yep... yep...

[@THENikNak]

SeaTactics You have my condolences

[@SeaTactics]

I've seen the first season twice.. which... it pains me to have to watch that second season. But if it's for the content, I can do it.

[@THENikNak]

SeaTactics Well one good thing about the second season. It makes the first seem more bearable in retrospect.

[@unraveler3380]

Deserves a like bro. Nice vid

[@masterxII7]

Just got into fate. Started with Zero, then watched UBW and then finished Heaven's Gate. Started watching the original anime cause I was interested in what I may have missed from the Saber route. But didn't like it as much as the UFO animes and I had a bunch of questions. However, this video literally answered all my questions and was quite interesting overall. Thank you so much. I wonder what fate thing to watch next.

[@emiyavalentine5969]

"Heaven's gate" bro watched a chinese version or something 💀

[@fkez0510]

Heaven's Gate? Tf?

[@masterxII7]

No it was Heaven's Feel my mistake. Not sure how I mixed up the name.

[@tsurugi5]

heaven's gate was a death cult you alright bro?

[@BYAKKQ]

Thanks for the video man, it made my day.

[@chammndagold441]

no changes in the rout its perfect as its best rout

[@darthkillhoon]

I know I'm a bit late, but I want a UBW six hour video

[@masonmead27]

Why are all youtube reviews done for the mirror moon fan patch of the 2004 eroge instead of the much more widely sold 2007 Realta Nua ps2 game? The overwhelming majority of the japanese audience read that one, and it has been the canonical vers for 17 years now. Also, 2004 lacked voice acting etc.

[@chammndagold441]

you escaped my favorite moment shirou confession for saber and claiming her his

[@djlowd3259]

You should make videos for the UBW and Heavens Feel route

[@MrDontKnow4sure]

Type-moon:🤑💸💲 Atlus: poor

[@kosmicgovernor-general706]

I'll be back once the remake is announced, koudai.

[@silveryo7678]

if a rewrite was made, I'd at least keep the second eroge scene

[@mohamedelhediissa289]

NO it's literally useless Nasu put it and other H scenes just because all LN of the time had it and that's it

[@masonmead27]

@@r.k845 agreed

[@lukaschen3009]

⁠@@mohamedelhediissa289Consider how the Lost Butterfly movie kept some H scenes with Sakura, I’d argue that much like this scene they’re just a pair of couple doing things couples do. The mana transfer is forced, but this next scene where they embrace each other is not so simple as “keep it popular”

[@zenprime1556]

My introduction to this franchise was the Deen adaptation so if I’m honest, I like it, it’s not perfect but what is

[@hashimalz]

Garden of Avalon video plz lol I would like to put a video that explains shirou’s personality because he is really hated and misunderstood by anime viewers Also full review on FGO babylonia plz

[@SeaTactics]

That video for Shirou is an AMAZING idea. I should pay you for that. But yes, I'm over halfway through Avalon alone, but I do want to make a video on it soon. And that Babylonia review is coming SOON (tm)

[@hashimalz]

SeaTactics wow thanks i would watch it once them they uploaded as i always do lol

[@zeroanonymity9736]

God I love Kotomine Kirei, what a chad. I can't hate him. he man did literally everything he possibly could to be a good man and be satisfied with that goodness. Yet his nature, his very soul was evil incarnite. It's the only thing that gave him any satisfaction, any joy. It's the one fictional excuse for evil that turns all of his bastardry into something memorably fun to experience hahaha

[@irithylloldman6526]

No matter what you could say about DEEN's adaptation, it still has and forever will have the best music in all nasuverse

[@umbrellaunderdog]

What would be smart is to dedicate each episode to giving a personal backstory and character development to each individual character while still focusing on mainly the ones that the route is dealing with in a remake. Instead of you know filler eps =x

[@Geegabyte23]

I read the sex scenes...Why yes I am insane

[@akai3974]

Don’t worry same

[@someguywithabirdface2583]

5:57 "friend"

[@adam-dn3hi]

"he thinks shes a delicate girl" thats not why he wants her not to fight we are told why shirou acts like this very shortly and it has nothing to do with saber being a girl(he even comments in his mind that saber being a girl was just a stupid excuse he made up)

[@chammndagold441]

you escaped the part when archer telling shirou the most useful advise in the rout instead you talke about ilyia ?

[@thekingdomofvincenzo2222]

Actually the manga is finished check the scans

[@yurineri2227]

IT'S HERE BOISSSSS

[@SeaTactics]

haha, thank you. This is my biggest project ever, and it took months to finish. Sadly, not long to edit really, maybe a week of daily work, but I couldn't edit it much since my computer couldn't handle this video.

[@yurineri2227]

@@SeaTactics it was worth the wait

[@TDOMMX]

No, SM Queen Sakura is Deen-anime only.

[@Azusashusband]

12:40 is even worse when you realize Illya was going to rape Shirou Edit: One thing about Fate Route and Heaven Feel Route that's inconsistent is that either Shirou shouldn't have beat Berserker in Heaven's Feel or Archer should have been able to beat Berserker in Fate because Nine Lives Blade Works takes well 9 lives and Archer takes 6 on his own presumably without it. And Caliburn should only take 1 life as its a A rank NP

[@alejandrogarcia-du8gy]

The thing with berserker is that in HF berserker lost God Hand because of the shadow so shirou killing berserker make sense And Archer could not kill him because he had god hand, so he could only kill him 6 times. (Also Rin kill him one time so shirou and Saber take out the rest with calibur a sword that while is weaker then Excalibur when is ussed by Artoria (and only by her) is as powerful almost as Excalibur so it makes sense that shirou with the help of artoria could kill berserker. The only thing that i can say that i doesn't make a lot of sense is that in HF is steated that Berserker is blind after being corrupted but he stops and sees illya... See the problem. That and that is never explaind in the Novel why Sakura becomes into the shadow/Dark Sakura in HF something that is only explained in Fate materials, but i'm not sure if it was in materials 2 or 3 but they explain it there

[@Azusashusband]

@@alejandrogarcia-du8gy he lost his lives to Saber so he actually only had one left anyway and Sakura becoming the Shadow was always Zouken's plan as Angra has been around since the 3rd Grail War which Zouken was alive for but by this point lost the original point of his wish

[@voltaireentertainment]

Why do you say she was going to rape him?

[@Azusashusband]

@@voltaireentertainment thats how bad endings work

[@voltaireentertainment]

@@Azusashusband Alright I'm sorry but im confused which bad end is it? I thought she just turned him into a doll?

[@willchalloner6643]

15:08 *got killed 6 times*

[@chammndagold441]

avalon been foreshadow the whole rout also ren mentioned that the avalon missing and its bower any more foreshadowing will spoil the plot

[@GuyShōtō]

Well if a certain UFOtable adapted it, maybe the cover girl for the franchise would get her day in the sun! JUST DO IT!!

[@IAm-yg6ml]

Yooo man i qas dying for a tldr of the vn. I tried it but I really cant stand vns, so i thank you very much

[@corvus9829]

22:14 I agree, but too much people in the fandom cant see that.

[@EuphoricPlaceHolder]

Need fate route but saber is alive and everything is happily ever after

[@inazuma11_boy_45]

This was 3 years ago😢

[@GhostEmblem]

I have not heard of garden of avalon I'm interested in a video on it.

[@muhammadaffry2123]

Fate route deserved more love

[@7deadlypins]

Omg.....i can't believe i watched all of that...I dont think anyone could do a better job than you did for why there shouldn't be a remake of the fate route. I dont want to say anything more mean that that. later gator

[@Astroprogs]

Garden of Avalon video plz. Fate/Prototype doesn't sound bad either, though. I really enjoyed this video. I hope you consider doing a similar one for UBW as well. Cheers.

[@SeaTactics]

haha, oh my, doing this for UBW may kill me since there is so much to say about the anime versions of UBW and Heaven's Feel. I may, no promises but this video took 3 months to make, almost always working on this video in some form or fashion. So I'm not sure if I can do a UBW one right now, but we'll see what the future holds.

[@Astroprogs]

@@SeaTactics No worries, take your time, good content takes time and all of your Fate content has been quality and undeniably great so far, so I can wait :)

[@SeaTactics]

That puts my mind at ease a little, very self conscious person in most things I do. I was dreading this going up, but when everyone liked it I was like, "oh... well... usually people nit pick my stuff" or something. But this time everyone so far has liked it or have been rather fair in their criticisms.

[@alexanderthemagnifcent2573]

Yes 6 hour video

[@renkashyav3514]

I was wondering how tf is shirou emiya here.

[@FaterMoon]

Unpopular opinion: I don't want Fate route to get adapted into a ufotable quality anime... first. Give me my f**king Hollow Ataraxia adaptation goddamnit. I want animated Caren. And when I'm gonna get that... then Fate route would be cool.

[@MrThecrazyzombie]

This

[@SeaTactics]

I'm okay with this, I'm getting into Hollow Ataraxia as soon as I watch that final Heaven's Feel film.

[@someguywithabirdface2583]

I wanted to sakuras diary being animated. Also rider and lancer story as ova .

[@arowmorth]

I woulnt say its that unpopular (at least for Type-Moon fans). I actually would prefer it first too. But im fine ether way.

[@oo-xb6gv]

bruh there's no reason to nerf Shirou by removing his magical circuits, it would be really cool to see Shirou in this version to be more like a knight rather than a magus. plus due to more of Saber's influence maybe he would use a single sword in fights. Overall it would be awesome to see Shirou being on par or more powerful in terms of power and skill to other routes.

[@chammndagold441]

saber didn't become servent like the other she is living servent

[@chammndagold441]

he cant replicate any weapon he wants he replicate weapons that has a clear image he saw caliburn in his dream also you said the defeat berserker using x calibur were you high during making this video

[@chammndagold441]

i dont see any thing wrong in shirou saying girls are precious creatures that need to be protcted

[@Fearkajmoni]

I liked the fate route alot, then again when my friend told me to get into fate I played the visual novel. The anime looked terrible lol

[@beatriloligirl]

based

[@keanemagpayo3573]

saber best girl.

[@vickie1844]

This might be a dum question and you might not even see this comment. Where did you brought the English version Fate Stay night Manga?

[@Synthpopper]

I hate Fate route because I'm jealous of Shirou

[@BlazingRaptor]

Ohhhhhh the fate route manga is an interesting case. It actually goes a step further into ubw for no reason, only for Rin to grab archer by the collar and blueball everyone. Then in the last 10-20 chapters' the artist gives up and makes shirou look like a bodybuilder, which is just the funniest shit ever. All in all, it's pretty bad. Also don't read the fate zero manga.

[@FaterMoon]

That's a long video.

[@SeaTactics]

Yep, and it took way too long to finish.

[@Arjun_2180]

I mean it is clearly an eroge so cutting on the nsfw scenes would be a bit odd

[@masonmead27]

They already did in 2007 for the ps2, which is the version the overwhelming majority of the Japanese audience read, it is also the version coming to English this year. The 2004 eroge has never been given voice acting nor is it getting sold anymore