Revisiting Paladins - IS IT STILL AWFUL?!

"Overwatch Copied Paladins" ► • "Overwatch Copied Pala...
It's been six months since my original video talking about Paladins, and it just released into Open Beta! So what a perfect time to revisit it to see if it's improved.
This video is kind of structured like a Paladins review, now that I think about it...
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Enter a fantasy world of ancient technology in Paladins, a team-based shooter with strategy elements and deep character customization. Through a unique collectible card system, players can amplify and augment a character’s core set of abilities to play exactly how they want to play.
- Fantastic Champions
Paladins is set in a vibrant fantasy world and features a diverse cast of Champions ranging from sharpshooting humans to mech-riding goblins, mystical elves, jetpack-clad dragons, and bomb golems. Each Champion brings a unique set of abilities to the battlefield and new Champions are regularly added to Paladins, keeping the game exciting.
- Free-to-Play
Paladins is completely Free-to-Play. Anything that affects gameplay can be unlocked simply by playing, with cosmetic items available for purchase.
- Card Mastery
Players collect unique cards for each Champion and build decks that empower their personal play styles. Gamers start with a basic deck of cards and unlock additional cards as they play, opening the door to creative new decks that radically change how Champions play. Players may further tweak their decks in-game with Burn Cards, making themselves stronger or counteracting opponents’ strategies.
- Level Up
No matter how players choose to play Paladins, they will gain experience points as they play. As they level up their account, master each Champion, and complete daily quests/achievements players will receive Radiant Chests and Gold which can be used to unlock additional cards, costumes, and weapon skins. The more players play, the more unique their Champions will become.
- Accessibility
Paladins is played from a first-person perspective. The controls are simple to grasp for newcomers and shooter veterans alike which makes for an easy pick-up-and-play experience, on either controller or keyboard and mouse.
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[@roe2479]

I'll be honest i still think you're kinda biased. When overwatch has different classes you say they're unique but when paladins does you say oh theres a dragon, oh there's a tree and oh theres an anime character when you could do the same for overwatch. Oh theres a gorilla, oh theres a cowboy oh theres a ninja. Nice though entertaining to here your thoughts though please remember this is a review not personal opinions as this video could directly affect whether people play paladins

[@Athielmon]

They are all humans, that's the fact, instead of, I dont know, league of legends design strategy, 'here's a dragon, here's a robot, here's a sexy girl, another sexy girl, and another and another', this game has something to do with that, when you find Widowmaker in overwatch as the sexy bad ass bitch (that is her personality) in this game, seems that every girl is the 'sexy girl'

[@Scaevola9449]

_Every character in Overwatch is just a soulless panderbot for as wide an audience as possible._

[@roe2479]

There a lot of humans however there are also alot of robots and a gorilla. I don't mind however this just shows his biased opinion towards paladins and overwatch as one of his "negative points" (which aren't really negative) he used against paladins but not against overwatch

[@roe2479]

Not to mention the visuals were completely biased saying you don't like them and how people don't feel like they belong there,aswell as saying the bad animations bleed into the game which you get to the point when you really wonder if this matters in a fast paced fps or does it just sound like a good thing for a critique to say? The projectiles are supposed to have a delay so it is more of a skill based game meaning variety in character needing certain characters to be closer range. Your also biased against Hi-Rez saying they only continue because it makes them money, well yeah obviously it's the same with any company and blizzard too. I overall think that making incredibly minor points about the game that makes little difference as well as a largely biased opinion makes the review seem heavily unfair. Opinion is fine but adding opinion as fact and part of the fact side of the review makes this video incredibly unreliable.

[@Scaevola9449]

Athielmon _You mean the smear campaign orchestrated by butthurt former employees?_ _Because Glass Door is full of those._ _People go there to try and make their employer look bad after getting fired._ _New characters being released in a stronger than normal state to encourage people buying them is a standard practice in League of Legends as well for the same reason, and same goes for most games where new things have to be bought._ _Even in CS:GO, the R8 was completely borked on release so people would buy the Revolver cases._

[@Slade951]

I think team fortress came first. there truth hurts

[@olllievier]

Sorry, but Team Fortress is no longer relevant. After the new update, it has fallen.

[@lacientertaintment3325]

Nope

[@cedrich.4736]

+Twisty 60000 players today, it is relevant

[@blazenaut5963]

*john cenas ead popps up* ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT

[@diggityd4n16]

tf2 is like 8 years old.

[@coldeed]

You lie then you say ultis can't be countered. You just learned to do it in overwatch.

[@coldeed]

***** You can even listen to the cue in the characters skill info from the main menu.

[@xFactions7]

Same goes for League of Legends, they also have these global sounds for ult, like Nocturne or Sion.

[@crazy338866]

Skye is the only champion in the game that has an objectively broken ult because it is almost impossible to counter (Fernando's ult and walls being the only counters). At least hi rez tried to fix it in the latest patch

[@Lelmao33]

DragonNinja386 Skye ult has too much range, and if you tried to escape skye would just kill you almost instantly

[@coldeed]

Sirapob Yodmahalabkul False, buck, maikoa, drogoz, bk, evie, cassie, androx, grover, ying and pip can all escape it, fernando can tank/block it, others can avoid the line of site.

[@brazalvernaz4033]

The "groot" character is an Easter egg and is a sub character in hi Rez's game smite

[@Bloodwolf1995]

Grover's model was even exactly the same as in Smite

[@brazalvernaz4033]

Yup

[@xFactions7]

Same for Fernando and Fernando Ares ^^

[@ZelkovaHack]

well more like a god's assistent (in smite, and old man is riding him and said old man is the god of the forest), but yes it quite a a neat easter egg

[@SixtyNineGods]

The character is Sylvanus.

[@ibimon]

never played this game, but I think your story-line conclusion is Overwatch biased.

[@earrapeexe4457]

Yeah, it sounded like he was comparing the game to OVERWATCH and not just the fact it's a hero based shooter

[@silverfangmoonhunter]

A game should be compared to its competition.

[@earrapeexe4457]

Not if its supposed to be different

[@silverfangmoonhunter]

+Earrape exe Two team based hero shooters in which teams of equal numbers of members are attempting to capture points and move payloads. They're literally the same genre of game.

[@whut9245]

you can say that about clash of clans and the million rip offs and all fps war games (cod,MOH,BF, home front...

[@ErdamonTheOwlSniper]

"Sexy anime... Guy?" Viktor confirmed to be the most kawaii Japanese Princess in the world.

[@never4git887]

Erdamon The Owl Sniper XD

[@liamaspinall6906]

After playing it for an hour, I had a lot of fun with it, and I continue to play it, however, I do feel balancing and more characters need to be added,

[@dharcsu]

and high-rez will never change! they dont listen at all.

[@liamaspinall6906]

Durk Derk well there is a first time for everything, either way I am not really fussed about it

[@chasearooni2119]

and they've said in future Patchs more champions, maps and game modes and polishing are gonna be added

[@hendiejason]

from level 1 to 5 you must be feeling very pro than other players because theyre actually bots :v

[@artaz2171]

well they just added Ma damba

[@lwanajames1212]

This guy is extremely over-dramatic. This game beats out any other hero shooter atm, in terms of gameplay. The characters have more depth/synergy than OW. And you can really spec your hero to suit your style. For instance, he clearly uses barracks "mark" card; that marks a target to do extra dmg with your weapon. Meanwhile, I use "turret health increase/health regen" so I can simply keep my turrets alive, and they do all the work. The only problem is this game has an identity crisis

[@Circurose]

Basically pay to win. Unlock this card now to make your hero variable blah blah blah.

[@MrAntimationStudios]

Not pay to win, the cards are cheap in in-game currency enough that paying real money for them is just stupid. Also the cards work more like the weapons in TF2, they make a certain playstyle more viable, while not affecting the hero's overall balance.

[@ThiagoJaqueta]

Totally not P2W, I have 15 hours in this game, and already unlocked all the characters in this game without spending a dime.

[@MoxieHavok]

Basically the rate of getting gold was like by the time I felt like I got a good grip on one character and wanted to try another... I'd have enough for 1 and a half new champions... I wish other games unlocked stuff this fast.. like "LOCK" us into some champions so that we are slightly limited while learning, but by the time we learn we'll have everything we'll need.

[@CooperQuick]

the only thing accurate he said in the whole video was the lack of a damage maker... i find myself saying that at times like they should really let you know XD everything else was bias overwatch/blizzard fanboying

[@matt5898]

It has potential as it is f2p and may attract more tf2 players, and gamers in general who like the game style but dont want to pay for overwatch.

[@matt5898]

if they ask for $ the game will die before it goes anywhere. in game purchases would be in their best interest to compete with other games in this genre.

[@JoProThe]

+Big Thick most ingame purchases are mostly for skins, champs and cards, which can be easily obtained with gold so the game isn't heavily monetized right now

[@Beast644Xyz]

"i dont think there is depth or a high skill " There is alot of depth in Paladins, but if you just keep on playing casual, of course you're never gonna see it. Depth and high skill happen in competetive, while casual is just pick a hero you want to play n have fun.

[@wheresmyfridgeat837]

"quitted"

[@Proftheskidkid]

All of Hi-Rez's games are free, They focus on in game purchases which they're bloody good at when it comes to skins

[@RahemtheDream13]

Your comparing a free to play game with a full price game, duh one's going to be more polish then the other. Overwatch probably had 10xs the people and funds for there game then Paladins. Its really unfair to compare these two games.

[@joestar4704]

I don't think it is seeing as their both class based shooters.

[@DWith13Es]

i personally agree but i do kinda have a biased for paladins :P. But i will say that the point about the forced synergy is definantly there.

[@hamartia6795]

and paladins is in beta xD its like comparing a half done game to a fully polished one

[@NOSfusion]

You're telling me that they will not have microtransactions of any sort once the game fully launches? $40 and decent prices for loot crates, or pay so much freakin money to have a just to have slight edge over another player? Games are never free, even Minesweeper isn't free.

[@RahemtheDream13]

NOSfusion I never said there would not be microtransactions and even if so that still not a good reason to compare the to. There two way different business models plus You don't have to buy anything if you don't want to.

[@tpayne2807]

I am level 27 in overwatrch and 10 in palidins so I have experience in both games and I prefer palidins

[@Andybiggestfan]

(x) doubt

[@johanneshavmo96]

i am the same

[@revimfadli4666]

Why?

[@gjrforever]

you can obtain level 27 with like 5 hours of play, so no you're not experienced in overwatch

[@tpayne2807]

well I am the rankpast gold in competitive and what level are you cause it took me way more then 5 houres

[@DB-yc1gp]

From playing 200 hours on Overwatch and having playing Paladins for 100 hours, I can officially say its the same game BUT there is something in there that shows its differences. In Overwatch, you can have a full team of one class and win the game. But in Paladins, you must need support or a certain class if you want your team to push, even in casual. Overwatch, has a bigger map design, and has many ways for players to use their abilities and their plan to work. Same in Paladins, but you would find yourself have more Clash's with players and experiencing more people trying to flank you. Both maps in both games are layed out to be played with a plan, not just run and shoot. To conclude, Overwatch plays more like a open team based shooter given players lots of advantages and plays. Meanwhile, Paladins feels like League of Legends mixed with Team Fortress. Overall, they are really good games.

[@MarioManPVP]

Hero stacking rarely works if your opponents counter, and in comp only one person can play one character so you're forced to create a good team that doesnt have like 3 of the same character. Besides that, good points. I havent tried paladins, i heard it was just ok. But its a good option if money isnt a strong spot.

[@kickerbs]

the competitive mechanic only came to exist after blizzard hired the head of paladins competitive team, so that is essentially something they copied from paladins

[@Tufhhuyy]

Unless the entire team is all damage and a flank or front line.

[@DaddyJoof]

Jusey1 Overwatch was made with 6v6 competitive in mind though

[@ultraguyyt758]

thatboi dank I think the moba inspiration for paladins would be smite rather than league.

[@iamhereyouarehere]

I will be honest. I am an overwatch newbie who loves it very well but i am downloading this game right now to test it because sadly my little brother doesn't have overwatch and i want to play with him with some overwatch type game.

[@CallMePuddlez]

not gonna lie that's sweet as fuck.

[@JSaxy905]

Get TF2 it's way better.

[@yarbitmot]

TF2 is fucking dying right killed by valve

[@thebgod8182]

TF2 numbers are going back high but its REALLY HARD and you really should play Paladin's its way easier

[@yarbitmot]

Rose The B It's not really that hard, all you have to do is go BlackBox+conch and the gg

[@RKGoliath]

Grover is based on Smite' Sylvanus and tree combo, just using the tree only and not based on a Groot feel, though it still has that feel a little. The characters only seem unbalanced if someone knows how to use them and that is the same with ALL characters, they all have great combos and abilities that can make you really strong. The card system is impactful, as is your in-game purchases, it really does depend on how well you play as in if I play Grohk on the front lines the enemy has a hard time winning. Ruckus though, he IS OP if the enemy doesn't focus you down and just you know, runs in and gets mowed down to give you like 65 eliminations in the match. Overall for being still in beta, the game is great, not an Overwatch ripoff, plus a lot of games these days are similar in a lot of aspects. I love the game, though the Aussie server has had ping issues jumping between 50 - 400 ping over different matches. Well worth the play! Better than overwatch (which is bland and dull for gameplay and characters) unlike Paladins.

[@Prushinthespirit]

I think Ruchus was stronger when he had his mini gun spinning. Now he can't sneak from behind and commence a massacre shooting at full speed. He needs to wait for an ult. Yeah, he is still good at zoning but Hi-Rez is making him more of a tank and less of a damage dealer.

[@RKGoliath]

His miniguns still do a lot of dmg though and can massacre with them easily, I did it 3 games in a row before switching champs due to how quick and easy the games were.

[@fecalwater3799]

i played overwatch during the free open beta, it was really fun at first but got repetitive and frustrating really quickly

[@Nargaku]

Grover isn't BASED off Sylvanus and his tree companion, he IS the tree companion. Well this is just based on assumption. Both of their names are Grover. It's entirely possible that they are two separate Grovers.

[@keitarotenshi7119]

let's be honest. Everyone can get raped by a decent skye

[@Binyamin.Tsadik]

The gameplay in Paladins is better than in Overwatch. I own both, but spend more time in Paladins. This guy is just nitpicking and poking at the tiny flaws. But I do think the first video had good points about Erez and his treatment of his company.

[@sailor3047]

yea i tried ow at my friends house and the weekend trial for xb1, i loved it but paladins came out and i enjoyed it much more. spent my money on something else instead.

[@sailor3047]

Hobo joe what

[@Binyamin.Tsadik]

mellow There was Donald Trumpet that made a comment. His comment was removed (not by me) by someone who reported it as spam. I would restore it but he uses some derogatory words. His point would come across better if he didn't call people names.

[@sailor3047]

Binyamin Tsadik lmao I was so confused, restore it anyway tho it sounds pretty funny

[@Binyamin.Tsadik]

+mellow Uhh.. Just tried. KZbin gave me a message: "Error undoing flag as inappropriate"

[@MARIOWII1233]

5:25 im just gonna say this Grover is from Smite.

[@steveknight]

well Smite and paladins are both from the same company (Hirez Studios)

[@MARIOWII1233]

I know i was saying it under the context that it isnt trying to ripp off Groot.

[@coldeed]

Its a treant from myth

[@carlmichael3277]

Sylvanus

[@steveknight]

Carl Vince Michael Carrascal sylvanus is the little guy and grover is the tree

[@mver191]

I have fun with this game. Besides it runs very well on my 6 year old PC (50 frames a sec on high) where overwatch is more like a slideshow.

[@lanerenner9410]

I straight up can't play OW on my 7 year old computer. I tried to get the open beta, but my graphics weren't good enough apparently.

[@jan050375]

i had to play OW in 720p to get over 30 fps on low

[@3dgarz]

Buy a new PC then you third worlders.

[@lanerenner9410]

herp derp What? Really? That had never occured to me. At all. /s

[@solarerection5149]

Nigga it runs well on the mac

[@beschbekifft]

lmao suck off Overwatch already

[@shockwavemonster3470]

he bought aggression... he has lost all validity.

[@a-manster4131]

ShockWaveMonster I know right one seconded you think he's a pro at reviews the next he can't be bothered to get reload speed

[@anudhirrahduin375]

Atleast he didn't pick deft hands

[@Proftheskidkid]

How the does this guy have 44k credits when he's straight up level 10? you must've earned like 6k a match in closed beta lmao

[@ingeniousclown]

+Profatoe The initial closed beta invite gave me all the current champions and a ton of gold. I didn't even notice at the time until my friends said they had almost nothing.

[@Proftheskidkid]

I guess you're just really lucky then, great video btw

[@taliesine.8343]

i also have 80000 :D

[@OfficialSuperDazza]

Grover isn't based off of Groot, he's based off a character from SMITE, their own game...

[@ingeniousclown]

I'm aware he's not actually based on Groot, it was just a joke made to get my point across.

[@jpvansplunder]

+ingeniousclown Gaming you make the game more dark if you place a scentence like that in your video

[@Eirandir]

he IS tho... even in smite grover dances like groot in the end screen... they're fully aware of this and more than likely will exploit this with a guardians of the galaxy-like skin for silvanus in the future...

[@mbyer9024]

He was released before guardians

[@1soar818]

they like taking ideas from other places but it's smart :D

[@yarry6952]

I feel like i'm the only person in the world who actually liked Battleborn...

[@shakirashipslied9721]

nah I hope I could play it

[@taliesine.8343]

which game?

[@bakublader1999]

i would totally play battleborn again if it didn't take 30 minutes to find a match.

[@CooperQuick]

you mean the game Paladins actually ripped off? XD

[@ΜαριαΓκοτζαμαρλη]

love it

[@Marhathor]

I've played for about an hour now and what I think I noticed was that ultimates are more noticable to the user than the victim. Which is awesome. :D

[@christiandenmark]

Yeah high noon, graviton surge, justice reigns from whatever the fuck, are all shitty ults. Even tho you could potentially kill every single member of the enemy team with them they are all far less scary than drogoz's "i will one shot ur tank" ult

[@Azumongo]

I'm glad if I can even kill a single guy with a Pharah ult but back when I played Paladins every Skye poison bomb ult got me 3+ kills. Ults in Paladins don't look "stronger" but they seem a lot less "avoidable".

[@CallMePuddlez]

you combine those ults you goose

[@okomusch]

@Azumongo this just isnt true.. the only ultimate which currently is OP is skyes time bomb and there is lots of complaints about it already. other than that there are no op OFFENSIVE ults. and in this video he just picked out those which can 1 shot ppl and didnt even meantion that u can counter any of those ult really easily. drogoz ult is so freaking slow u can just shot him dead while in his ult and he stands still for 2 sec to cast it on top of that. same with bomb king. and btw 50% of the ults are either utility or defensive ults.

[@zan9922]

it's probably just me, but when ever i hear skye's voice line for her ult, i make a 180 degrees turn and nope the hell outa there

[@capybaracuda2284]

Haha, yeah me too. I spam the shit out of F , whether its on cooldown or not, in what ever direction away from the capture point or payload. I think they just have to Nerf the range of its effect.

[@ian9372]

overall a very good review, but does seem a bit biased towards overwatch

[@Marcoboyle00]

Totally.

[@Pepenjoyer]

Ian Peters exactly, this dude is saying like overwatch doesn't have some op characters...

[@ArisingHeroBeAHero]

i agree.

[@Teflora]

what I disagree with is that the loadouts are not impactful. you can do really cheesy things and encourage different playstyles. for example with Viktor you can throw a grenade and reduce the cooldown when you hit 2 enemies. so if you hit 4 enemies you can get it back instantly and throw again! great for taking the point! you just need to focus certain strengths with your loadout hard and adjust your playstyle and role with it.

[@EliP789]

I own overwatch but i still see this as a good competitor that's why im downloading it now to try it.

[@anudhirrahduin375]

And what's your conclusion?

[@GalaxyDoesMC]

Complaining about op abilities in paladins? Sky's bomb = Diva's bomb Bomb King's ult is almost identical to Junkrat's And Drogos' ult is nothing compared to some ults in overwatch Your very biased and far too critical. Alot of your complaints can be directed right back at overwatch.

[@TehNightcoreAngel]

People are just mad as they paid money for overwatch, and now there is f2p game that is similar. Its normal for human mind to dislike things that people get for free and you had to pay for. Psychologically unintelligent people say paladins isn't good game and is copy. But the truth speaks by itself. We wise people with IQ 140+ know paladins is better game.

[@ingeniousclown]

Congratulations! You just won the award for the most completely narcissistic comment on my whole channel!

[@lalalandd123]

Listen, that's fine and everything, but you're wrong

[@parkerraines921]

Obvious troll is, well whaddaya know, obvious.

[@Konin300]

Played Paladins when OW was out because you only had to like em on Twitter to get a key. It sucked. I hate the card system, i hate the horse bs, i hate the "mist of doom that kills you" shit. Then i played Overwatch and finally bought it. And it's just better? I'm not mad because i "paid money for overwatch and now there is f2p" , i'm mad that hi-rez puts such a piece of shit out on the market to somewhat get into the genre.

[@cthulhusangel3275]

Okay, you really bought OW? Wow, uh okay then. You know, I have been playing games ever since I was 7 years old. Paladins and OW are two completely different games gameplay wise. Comparing a Professionally made game that has a lot of people working on it to an open beta made by a company that can't rely on selling games to get money for support is just stupid. Paladins has so much potentail and so does High Rez. I am a 16 year old Begginer game dev that loves beta testing, and generally experiencing games. I have played literally hundreds of games. Paladins has the potentail to become overwatch 2. It's not that smart to not hop onto it's potentail for a professional gamer like me. I would rather not pay 60 dollars wich I did for somthing better that is free. Honestly, I love both games, but am supporting Paladins and High Rez due to thier potentail. Blizzard entertainment will mostlikely give up on overwatch because they can make a new hype train when it's proffits run low just like dota 2. High Rez would not do that making them better than valve in a few ways. They are low on staff and money so you have to give them props for that. I can't wait for the full release and the US Paladins Open which would be awesome...

[@MegapiemanPHD]

Have you played Dirty Bomb much? Whatcha think about it?

[@Katastrophe9009]

I have about 10 hours in the game right now. I've been having fun with it, but honestly, I don't think I'd play this if I had Overwatch, which I don't. Basically, this is a very good F2P Overwatch clone, but that's not necessarily a bad thing in my opinion. I'll still keep playing for the time being, but if I ever get myself a copy of Overwatch, I doubt I'd come back to this game.

[@mangojume5466]

Dude its not a clone...

[@Skydive20991]

Btw the game is fun and don't have mad high nonsense prize as overwatch so for me is perfect. No game wars obv, i didn't wanna to be rude

[@Skydive20991]

***** exactly: if you have fun, play it. Atm everyone thinking about what others people could think about his decisions: in life, in hobby and even in simple things like games

[@Katastrophe9009]

Mango Jume Rickey Let's be real, it is. There are differences, but everything from the presentation to the music to the gameplay is very much Overwatch-esque. Even if this technically came out first, they have very obviously lifted design elements and ideas from Overwatch. But that's ok. It makes up for it in other ways of being original. The ability to buy upgrades mid match is a good example. It allows you to adapt or better specialize your character to what the enemy team is doing. When my brother who had never seen the game before saw me playing it, he instantly thought it was Overwatch, I even let him watch for a while to see if he'd realize it's not. Took him about 3 minutes to be like "wait....." It's obvious they're at least going for the exact same market as Overwatch.

[@mangojume5466]

KatastropheTRΛP But who gives a damn? Just play the game you like more and stop trying to prove everything...

[@helpme.8483]

As someone who plays Paladins a lot, I agreed with almost everything you said in this video. I personally thought it was a great video! Also, do you do voice-acting? It seems like you'd be good at it.

[@ingeniousclown]

Thanks, and yeah I am currently pursuing voice acting. Gotta get that "acting" part down first, though!

[@helpme.8483]

Nice! Was asking because it seemed like it would have been such a missed opportunity if you weren't.

[@glowyslime2609]

I play Paladins a lot to and agree as well especially without being able to tell my health level very well. I have found myself dead many a day because I couldn't tell my health very well.

[@semoponume4988]

Paladins came out first than overwatch right?

[@qayxeerllthenine-th3668]

then* ... and yes.. but still some scrub call paladins is a copy of overwatch rather than the inverse of it

[@Lycku]

Overwatch was announced first. Paladins still hasn't had its final release. Look at characters like that turtle that has the hook. Its basically a copy paste of roadhog. Torb = Barik. Pharah = dragon dude. You're suckin on some mighty fine Hi-Rez dong if you think it isn't blatantly taken from there.

[@semoponume4988]

yah so how did the paladin became a copy of overwatch if the paladins came first and also the other people only know overwatch because overwatch became famous and paladins is not.

[@Lycku]

Semoponume Did you read my first sentence? Overwatch was announced first. Their characters and skills were announced long before paladins became a thing. Paladins has gone through so many changes during its development that the developers didn't even know what they wanted to make. Soon they just settled for straight out copying characters from Overwatch's roster.

[@semoponume4988]

oh so overwatch was the first to be announced oh that's ok now i know the right thing thanks ☺famlit

[@Marcoboyle00]

Your innate bias is sadly coloring your judgement here. I dont blame you, we all have biases, but there were so many points you made that literally made no sense - simply because your chose not to understand them, or accept them, and it is because of your bias against the game. Your points on Character design, Ultimate, and Ability synergy went all the way between just having bias clouding your judgement, to you being wrong entirely. Which is a real shame.

[@tomii9840]

HAHA! I thought I was the only one who thought Pip was a knockoff of Rachet lol.

[@ChungiteApostle]

inb4 pip gets a tiny robot Friend.

[@FitzChivalryFarseer2]

Little brother was showing me the game... he and his buddy don't call anything by its name. He called pip Rachet and I knew exactly who he was referring to on his screen

[@cassidy8307]

I was thinking of him as a bootleg rocket raccoon, to go along with grover.

[@FitzChivalryFarseer2]

McCree You misspelled groot

[@FznAbsol]

Pip is a really good character

[@kuhn4163]

5:26 That character is actually based on a god in their other game smite. This god is named sylvanus and he rides a big living tree named Grover. The character in paladins is just Grover alone wielding an axe, which admittedly is pretty random, but isn't based on Groot.

[@ibi7928]

Kuhn XD

[@sjda2000]

is it really possible to clone a clone? cause we all know overwatch is tf2 in disguise

[@olllievier]

Overwatch is TF2 with bright colored clothing on to attract the kids with shiny colors so they become biased

[@FimbongBass]

its tf2 but better, tf2 only has like what.. 5 classes? lmfao oberwatch has 22, ya fuck tf2

[@sjda2000]

Reiju have you ever even played tf2 it has 9 classes around 154 different weapons to choose for there is far more variety and basically anything you can do in overwatch you can do in tf2 plus tf2 is the original with better players and there wont be christmas noobs playing tf2 whereas there will on overwatch its clear that tf2 is the superior game

[@aliexisalvarez5260]

22 classes doesn't change the fact overwatch still follows through the footsteps of tf2.

[@zachfoster5653]

I use to like tf2 until they overhauled it but I also gotta sqy there's more content in overwatch diffrent abilitys turn back time or get crits for a sec. But I most definetly like tf2s characters and loadoits a lot

[@carlosllige8922]

IMO, the only thing missing from Paladins is a quick story line to give the characters meaning and a little life. But other than that, it's a great f2p game to be honest. Sure the graphics and hit marks aren't as realistic as Overwatch's but we have to consider that it's still in beta mode. And through out my playing, I've reported a few minor bugs within the game through ther feedback section on the homescreen of the game and after 2 updates, everything I reported was fixed. In my understanding, the reason the projectile weapons have a ''weird delay'' is because the damage given by it are much higher than the scan weapons giving it a fair reason to put a much slower hit rate to it. Just imagine having an Evie bursting out projectiles as fast as Viktor or Kinessa's weapon. The so-called overpowered ultimates can easily be dodged as well, simply hiding behind cover or runing away from it quickly gives you less to none damage from the ultimate casted. The thing is, people are judging because it is kind of a rip-off of OW in a way, but hey! a lot of babies cried a lot too when Heroes of Newerth came out back when DotA was the only moba game out there, same game modes yes, but every game has their own varieties and copy cats. Haters gonna hate. And once again, take into consideration that the game is still in Open Beta version and the Dev team are doing their best to respond with their gamers' ideas and comments. Oh and if it comes into your mind, yes I can afford overwatch.

[@jacobkreifels7690]

The game is filled with hackers atm, ruins the game completely.

[@mr.nyanheres3592]

Jacob Kreifels never seen a hacker

[@JOKE-vg8hk]

"44k gold" "Is this game still trash?" "re-visit"

[@sevzy1891]

I subbed! This is some great content! What microphone do use?

[@ingeniousclown]

Unscripted content & Let's Plays: Shure SM7B into a Cloudlifter into a Scarlett 2i2 Scripted content: Rode NT1 into an Audient iD22

[@sevzy1891]

sorry im not experienced in this sort of field, sort of expected a response like a blue snowball plugged into my pc. lmao

[@ingeniousclown]

Sounds like you have a lot of research and learning to do, my friend :)

[@sevzy1891]

:)

[@gorkaaustin5306]

Night Kiplin ok, idc.

[@AngeloAbela]

I bought Overwatch on release and did not like it. I tried to get into it because some of my friends were playing it and I had paid good money for it but just abandoned it after a few hours played. I decided to try Paladins and I am enjoying it greatly. Already have more hours played and intend on playing more of it for the foreseeable future. I can pin the reasons why I like this over Blizzard's game on a few reasons: 1) I hated the fact that you can change champions mid game in Overwatch. That game is all about team composition and constantly changing it to adapt to the enemy team's comp and strategy. This led to a situation where I was constantly questioning if my bad plays were related to me playing badly or me choosing an inadequate champion. I felt I had to learn the game in depth before I could start having fun. Paladins is more like a MOBA in that you have to pick a team composition at the start. To counter for unfavorable matchups there is the card system in place. 2) I like having my character my characters progress mid game. In Overwatch the heroes are static. Paladins allows you to upgrade certain aspects of the character both using the aforementioned card system at the start of a match but also during the match by upgrading certain aspects of the character using money accrued during the match. The choices are not super exciting and not character changing such as they were in Battleborn. However they give you interesting choices to make during the match vis a vis your character. Maybe Bomb King's bombs are causing me grief so I opt for a reduction of splash damage, or they have a character which is going into stealth so I increase my stealth detection. 3) The controls seem to be simpler. I find it ridiculously easy to learn using a new champion in Paladins since all the keys are the same. In Overwatch some keys are used for some characters while others are not. I tried going back to Overwatch recently and kept being frustrated by the controls changing between characters. I can understand why people like Overwatch despite me hating it. But I feel that some of these criticisms amd comparisons are unfair especially considering that Overwatch has gone Gold and has seen a few post release patches while Paladins is still in open Beta. The only thing I can say is - Paladins is free to play. You can just try it for yourself. Just don't go into it expecting it to be just like Overwatch.

[@bpanch7841]

i feel like it is in Beta so most issues will be fixed by launch.

[@joedatius]

that's just a adorable thing to say

[@bpanch7841]

not really

[@joedatius]

You must be one of those people who believe devs when they use words like beta. when in reality you are playing the final release early, devs like to say beta so they can make people think problems are going to be fixed.

[@bpanch7841]

joedatius ok, but I really don't see how it was adorable.

[@Pvpuiwill]

Paladins has patch updates once a week, they also read community comments and suggestions for next weeks patch. Paladins is clearly in development and the dev team are still working on it.

[@lwanajames1212]

Are you joking? Overwatch has a wide variety of characters, too. Maybe you'd be best suited for call of duty since you don't enjoy the variety of heroes. Personally, I thoroughly enjoy the different toons. On one hand you say that you had fun. Then, you say that you don't like the characters and map. Your entire video is a joke bro, hopefully your channel doesn't last too much longer. Never seen a gameplay video that was so biased. I love overwatch. But Paladins has MORE DEPTH and customization. The game is very very well balanced. You shouldn't make videos without putting some time into the game first. You admit you have fun, but choose not to continue playing for essentially no reason.

[@HellzSaint28]

Amazing, your videos are so well structured and you are great at voicing your own opinion professionally. I'm dumbfounded on how small your subscription base is, you are incredible!

[@ingeniousclown]

[@Skydive20991]

That's rare on youtube, you hve a follower now bro

[@MixandmingleStuff]

When the sarcasm too good or not even sarcasming

[@mmm4093]

about what you have said regarding ultimates , Skye = D.va , The dragon guy = Genji , Bomb king = Junkrat

[@Marcoboyle00]

Yeah its like he just refused to beleive it can be avoided when there are plenty ways to know and avoid it. EVERY single character has a movement ability on F. The Ults all come up around the same time. There is even a timer on the tab score screen for your teams ult's so you should have an idea. Then theres a clear and obvious audio queue. I think the reviewer is just stubbornly trying to act like the game is still close to as bad as he remembers, but without saying it so he doesnt get hate.

[@TheDowner911]

Wrong Dragon guy is Pharah

[@thebgod8182]

to be honest if Dragoz is salty and hes coming for you if you aint Evie you aint living that shit

[@valhalla_1129]

The dragon guy's ultimate is complete bullshit. You get like, what, 8 seconds or 10 seconds to fly around at one of the highest speeds in the game? And once you hit someone they just die. Sure you could be unlucky to hit someone who was about to die anyways, but you can just as well fly around towards the spawn and immediately kill someone rushing into battle. That's just unfair. With Genji you can kill him much more easily, he needs more time to kill you and he's not as fast as Dragoz or whatever his name is. Sure you can get more kills if you're lucky/skilled enough, but it's much more situational and that's the case for most ults in Overwatch. The ones in Battleborn are usually just a free kill, it seems, and that's no fun.

[@ademsky4326]

Junkrat = Demoman = Bomb king. Who the hell is the dragon guy? Genji was taken from Global Agenda anyway so :/ And 2 explosions? It's almost like you think Blizzard made explosions...

[@engindzhanhalmi769]

Free overwatch! The game is cool and i like it!

[@Johomaman]

you mean free hero shooter (no hate)

[@engindzhanhalmi769]

Yeaah my bad, the game is very cool for that price (free 😂)

[@Johomaman]

Engindzhan Halmi yea :)

[@dies3156]

Well paladins was announced before Overwatch sooo...

[@kai-ei3lf]

FifaWorld Balkan no, no it wasn't. Overwatch was announced and ready to play a month before Paladins was announced, and Titan (Original name of Overwatch) was announced long before that.

[@_Avrai]

for some people the only thing that matters is that it runs on potatoes

[@TheBioshocksnake]

I played Overwatch competitivly a lot. It was one of the most frustrating experiences ever, since I felt forced into playing boring Tanks and healers, when there was 14 Non-Tank/Healers I wanted to play instead, but was instead punished for playing. Needing to have 2 Tanks and 2 Healers AT LEAST in a team was such a downer for me. And in pro games, same heroes Over and Over again. No sign of change anytime soon, if ever. But Paladins was everything I wanted Overwatch to be. 1 Healer and 1 Tank is the standard. Every hero gets a chance to shine, and 2/3rds of the team don't lie in the F-Tier. I have never been flamed for picking a character. They all feel complex, easy to play but hard to master. To me, Overwatch feels like Super Smash Bros Brawl. It has good graphics, story and polish, but the balance is garbage and it feels slow, a bit random and all too simple. Paladins on the contrary, feels more like Project M. It is made with High Level play in mind, unlike Overwatch, which feels like its made with Low Level Play in mind. There is no Meta knight alone at Super S tier. All heroes are viable. So Paladins to me, even though I started of with Overwatch and spent like 500 hour on it, is the superior game. By a lot.

[@Queen-rl2tm]

Just a note, Overwatch and Paladins were both released on the same year and a few months apart, it is seriously just a huge coincidence because there is no way a gaming company could copy everything in a few months. Another example the Overwatch character Mei was released later then Paladins champion Eve.

[@HadouGun]

League of Palawatch

[@Will-iw2lk]

Strange you say it's low time to kill, the time to kill is a lot longer than Overwatch, also the ultimates in Overwatch are all stupid and charge stupidly fast, and there just a ton of cheap ways to kill your opponents in Overwatch such as Mei, basically any ult in the game that are constantly up because they charge in a minute or so, Hanzo headshots, random Zen orbs, RAndom mei icicles, the stupid smallness of Overwatch maps that just force everyone into one clusterfk choke, reinheardt being a mandatory pick because his shield is completely broken by design (unlike fernando's). Paladins to me feels like a hero shooter made by people who actually understand the genre or just FPS games in general, the larger maps and the 5 a side means that you aren't constantly getting shot by people you never even had a chance to see, you can quite easily 1v3 in Paladins if you are skilled enough due to longer times to kill and better kit design, something that more or less just isn't possible in Overwatch because the heroes fall over in 2 to 3 hits from most heroes guns. I peaked at rank 63 on Overwatch and never really returned to it for season 2 due to the fact the games skill ceiling was so low and it basically felt like call of duty with an objective, I didn't feel any satisfaction from winning because it just felt cheap, every game just seems to play out the exact same way pointless trading back and forth until one team does something like drop a Zarya ult and one shot an entire team, or drop a rein ult and one shot an entire team or Mercy gets a 3+ man res. Paladins for me is the better designed game, better balanced game, higher skill floor and ceiling, the only downfall of paladins is polish it's a shame these budgets are in the hands of absolutely clueless developers.

[@angeldark700]

woow look phara is a dragon here!! i play this game in alpha, closed beta open beta etc etc. and still is boring like hell.

[@sophieanderson1910]

Then y do u still play it?

[@VTRDC27]

I'm not defending Paladins by any means... but a lot of these same balance and "motivation" complaints seem to be exactly the same in overwatch

[@MartoLun]

To me, Paladins just feels... lazy. There's nothing unique about it, with nearly all mechanics, big or small, being a copy from something else. And while I understand thats not always a bad thing, in this case, it is. The characters don't have unique, well thought out silhouettes, unlike games like Overwatch or Team Fortress. The color palette has no personality, the maps have no story. The characters do not interact with each other. Whenever I play, I feel solo, like I'm not required to work with my team. The music is bland, uninspired, with no real dramatic effect or oomph. Overwatch takes a lot of its ideas for abilities from MOBAS (Tracer and Dota 2's Weaver comes to mind) but Paladin feels the need to immitate Overwatch instead of the plethora of arena shooters/brawlers/MOBAs, or creating its own concepts for abilities. The whole experience is polished, but without thought or heart put into it. Also... fuck hi rez.

[@chasearooni2119]

its seem to be getting better as time goes on hell OW's beta didn't have interactions so im hoping for some in the future mostly from Bomb King

[@yarrwannabe5225]

nice message u got down there , u want to make a better game than Paladins ? u are fucking comparing a full price game to a free one , u dumb mate ?

[@rice1936]

MartoLun Just wait paladins Is still in beta lore and shit will come later

[@mojistar4009]

Paladins's ultimates are way too powerful...bruh Mccree have a Ult that can one shot everybody if enemy was displayed on the screen,"skye has a wide range bomb that one shots if enemy is close enough"..D.va basically has the Same thing.Genji has a Ultimate that one shot enemies with his sword...Hanzo has a Ultimate that Shot Twin Dragons across the map killing everyone that make touch contact with it. i am not gonna mention Pharah as can be easily can when she uses her Ultimate.and you say that Paladins's Ultimates are much more stronger they are basically the same thing as Overwatch.i get it if any Overwatch fans are angry at this comment but i would support Paladins more because it has more hate.to all Overwatch fans,this is just a Opinion from me dont get that mad.

[@jameshicks7440]

The game looks a lot like overwatch. Especially the heads up display, the weapons, the kill feed, the everything really

[@Sina-dv1eg]

Overwatch was announced in 2014, and Paladins was announced in 2015.

[@Athielmon]

Nope, when they announced it back in 2014 a video showing all heroes skills was made too, also the gameplay. The game was well known by the end of 2014.

[@sailor3047]

yea ow came first, it scared the shit out of the paladins devs tho when it did (even tho it was more of a moba-fps back then).

[@ripanthony271]

Just say you don't like and don't go on a rant

[@SalvadorNero1]

This was a fair review and I appreciate it, even though I am a fan of Paladins. Its not a perfect game and it has a long way to go. I'm glad you gave it a second chance. The only complaint I have is your opinion on the ultimates and their comparison to Overwatch. In Overwatch over half the cast has ultimate abilities that auto aim 1 shot kill your opponent. or one button press to kill the entire enemy team. In Paladins, every single ability can be evaded and is a skill shot, with a clearly defined sound queue. You covered your self a bit by saying that is might be because you haven't played enough of it to recognize the counter play, but I felt that there was a bit of lack of self awareness from the competitions point of view, seeing as a majority of the ults in Overwatch do not have to be aimed in the least bit. Still, appreciate the fair and honest review. Gave you a thumbs up. Good job.

[@lavaowl4196]

There is a story to paladins. each character had a reason for going and winning glory. For example, pip came because he was running from the iron hand, which he stole his gear from. he wanted to find a spot to hide and decided if he won the championship he could be safe

[@tomii9840]

Hello! Excellent video you made. I think you had some excellent points and I just want to share my thoughts on my experience with the game and what needs to be changed! I won't necessarily be adding anything new to say, just things that I have thought when playing the beta. I have played 4 hours of Paladins today and here is what I feel needs to be changed, 1. Nerf a lot of characters abilities and/or ultimate's 2. Some abilities such as the snipers (I forget her name) teleporter could use some sort of animation to show that I'm being teleported 3. Horses need to have their speed reduced a little bit because they move REAL fast 4. Maps could be a little bit bigger and have more obstacles or alternatives paths for traversing 5. The cost of unlocking new characters seems a little bit too high (5000 gold, really?!?) 6. The general "feel" of almost all the characters weapons could have a little more"impact" to them to be more satisfying to use ex (Projectile weapons such as the bow could use a drawback animation as well as a damage buff to make it feel more satisfying to use) 7.Some classes such as Soldier 76...Err, I mean Viktor are a little too easy to play All in all this game sure felt like it was in Beta and it runs really well on my computer (because it is not so graphically demanding) I just hope that some of these changes are implemented in the future to imrpove the game. It definitely has the potential to be one of the best F2P games on the market, but will DIE out fast if there are no content updates/bug fixes to keep players interested. I can't stress enough how much animations and "impact" need to be added to the game to make it "feel" great. 7/10 thus far. I'm going to be looking forward to the final product

[@RealParadoxed]

I think you're being a bit butt hurt mate, you are making a lot of stuff up and you keep mentioning how Overwatch does it better. But Overwatch has different characters and different levels of play. Overwatch has ults which feel unbalanced, and characters for that matter.

[@NeroTheHero]

As much as I love this game I will admit, Paladins does feel like a mixed bag. It tries to do a lot of different things, not all of them well. It's very possible that they are just trying to do too many things and are loosing focus. I've seen videos of older builds, and I'm sad that I didn't get the chance to try earlier versions. All in all I think it still has tons of potential, and I hope HiRez really listens to to the fans of the game moving forward This was a great video. A very well produced in depth look at it's current state. I fully respect your opinions!

[@makiaveli1997]

Honestly my only gripe with Paladins is the terrifyingly similar character designs and some abilities but that's about it, over all it is basically a F2P Overwatch but still seems fun and and at least seems likes its improving, I also don't blame them for the visuals or animations considering Blizzard has much more budget and people working on it than HiRez. In the end I'll probably try it out and maybe get some fun out of it even though in the end I'll probably stick to Overwatch.

[@mariofan1ish]

This is a very fair and well-made review. however, I do believe you should revisit it one final time when it comes out of Beta and into full release, preferably once most of the bugs and balance issues have been removed (Heck they already nerfed Skye's time bomb to oblivion and I believe Drogoz's Dragon Punch. It still OHKOes, but Drogoz can't fly while using it anymore i think.) It might be worth the time.

[@wiraa.wibisana7777]

Paladins: Why are we capturing payload and pushing it to the enemy base? Overwatch: Why the fuck are we pushing a goddamn car? we're fking world saviour!

[@princemagbanua]

I agree on the part where you don't know where you're getting hit because of the indicator where you are being hit is too small and sometimes look like the "red effect" when you are being hit/damaged. Thought i was the only one noticing it.

[@Bloodfencer1990]

I am sure someone mentioned it already, but the "Groot" character was actually a placeholder they put in the alpha. He's from one of their previous games. Then they decided to keep him.

[@chasearooni2119]

then im curious what he is supposed to be then

[@WTFAnyNameWorks]

For all the people saying that Paladins is a clone of Overwatch, i have two words for you 'Dota' and 'LoL' , the game taking inspirations from another game doesn't mean they're a copy of it, and it doesn't mean they'll evolve and go onto the same path, so they took inspiration from Overwatch and Teamfortress, that doesn't mean that they're the same game or they'll end up being the same game... Take a chill pill, and enjoy the game... it's free after all ;)

[@ajparker7575]

Bruh, they already had Grover in Smite long before this came had Grover doing Paladins as his solo night job aside from being Sylvanus's Giant Hodor-Round (Hover-round) in Smite during the day. But yea, GotG came out only a few months before Sylvanus's release... totally not a coincidence. Hel, Grover even does the same dance that Groot did at the end of the movie as his victory dance if you win a game as Sylvanus.

[@rururururururrurururururur6038]

For anyone who says overwatch came out first paladins had its first trailer 8 years ago started development in 2005 people played it 6 years ago and it had a name change from global agenda to paladins and style change from realistic to cartoon like also overwatch invented NOTHING hirez was doing shooters with skills before blizzard did also hook,revolver,sniper rifle etc. isnt original so stop arguing about people riping off a rip off

[@rururururururrurururururur6038]

global agenda + team fortress 2 = overwatch

[@mkv97mkv]

Overwatch copied paladins due to the fact that paladins was announced way before overwatch was realesed

I can see that you are comparing paladins too much with overwatch, it was way too evident when you said "unnecessary synergy of powers". You see, paladins is not a copy paste from overwatch, is a game itself, you are complaining about it because overwatch don't have that kind of thing, those synergies you talking about, makes a really different playstyle depending of who you want to kill, for instance: drogoz may want to deal more damage to a single player, usually a tank, so he shoot his fire spit which gives him 30% more damage, but he otherwise, can shoot the fire spit to deal damage around it, that usually is for flanks who have low hp. "i would rather use my abilities at the right time", well, if you want strategy instead of skill, then neither paladins or overwatch is for you, but you are so used to overwatch that you undestand everything so makes you think is simplistic, once you understand everything in paladins, is also simplistic, it's just slightly more complex than overwatch, because you have builds, synergies, loadouts and in-match buff items. So at the end, if hi-rez remove those thing you complaining about, and introduce the thing you want, it would be a exactly copy/paste from overwatch.

[@pathfinderfella7354]

Im thinking paladins is gonna be good later in the future, Hi Rez is credited with games such as smite and we all know how some what good that was, now they are making a first person shooter? I personally think hi rez is gonna turn this game into a nice fun game to play if you want to play for fun or you are looking for something new like how I was with Smite. To be honest I think this game will be good but like you said, Hi Rez takes betas as alphas.

[@Fournier46]

They have some good design touches for building a positive community. Simple facts like how the kills you assist on still count as kills for you, creating an emphasis on dealing damage and no butthurt about killstealing, is a splendid design choice.

[@ShadyWizardTV]

I enjoyed your review, but I find some of it feels overly critical. For instance the character designs being all over the place and the game not knowing what it wants to be. I felt that the eclectic style lends extremely well to a hero shooter and has been used in over-watch (ninjas look awesome while gorillas, and road hogs make you giggle.) Also the forced synergy doesn't feel forced at all. The maximum rotation damage is not usually the best strategy, but when you are clearly have your opponent out maneuvered it can help close that time to kill gap. The art style part of this video left me scratching my head as I don't remotely agree or even see your point of view. There are others, but I think you get me. Still solid analyses.

[@DayvMagnimagic]

I was a participant in the closed beta. Since they launched open beta I got increasingly frustrated at the bugs I noticed. The different lanes wouldn't load, it would just be the same one, instead of the 3 rotating lanes from CB. Hit detection on some champions was downright broken, where I saw the guy shoot past me on replay and hitting me ( a lag shot ) when I fired 6 shots point blank without dealing damage. The matchmaking is almost infuriating. Promoting Zerg Rush mentality over tactics. I lost a match once by the enemy composed of 1 front line 2 flanks and 2 damage champs just rushing the point. And because the lanes never rotated, that strategy was enough for them to win. Multiple times I was kicked out of the lobby due to the match being closed (this was fixed though). The game is pretty much not yet ready for open beta. It is more in its CB stage of development. I think they should have stuck with CB until it is more balanced and polished. Just my own opinion, in the end I had more fun when it was CB

[@foreverzeus9932]

Champions Need To Change It doesn't matter if this gets posted or not i'm one voice in an ocean, but whoever reads this I hope you understand, paladins is super fun and amazing already, but its reputation is tarnished by all the over-watch clone bs and that'll never go away as it is. This game can go a long way if half the current champions like Fernando, Makoa, the sniper one, and maybe a few others were just a catalyst for the idea of the game. It feels like Hi Rez studios had trouble making champions that would appeal to the audience they were after with the right abilities, and I don't care who copied who- but Hi-rez...you have an entire arsenal of champions already...Why not just bring the gods from smite over into this amazing concept and have unique abilities with the same paladin feel? You could have an arachne that can pull enemies with a web instead of a turtle with a hook. You could have a Janus with portals to add dimension to the maps and move his teammates faster, or a bakasura that can climb walls with his giant claws and leap down bursting into a melee frenzy etc etc. Not only would your entire problem of negative reputation disappear but you would already have a strong back bone of smite and the lore of gods that's already there. Not to mention every smite player would try it out and since the optimization is so divine and the game is already a blast to play most of them would stay and your community would be even stronger. I really don't get it, why follow another game when you could bring the gods to the battlefield? As it is, the characters have no lore, feel like a cheap attempt at seducing a player base that loves hero shooters like overwatch (I mean for example Makoas chain ability? you could have him breathe really hard to suck 2 players in that temporary stuns them but gives them a temporary wind speed boost by 30% boost or something and boom you've eliminated any sign of copy and paste. However it makes sense if the angle is for publicity as the poor mans overwatch however the games bad reputation will be the death of it and you would make more money by nurturing the game and its community rather than making a quick buck if that is the angle. Idk sucks you guys came out second but this is the reality of what a lot of people are saying.) this game can go so far if you cut out the similarities. I've never played overwatch and I'm glad this game is free to play, but even someone like me who's never played overwatch gets a sour taste and at least a bit of a naughtiness feeling when I play paladins after a bit of research. And no not the good kind of naughty. Heck, all my friends wont even try paladins because its known for being the overwatch clone and they hear so much bad things about it. You can do better, you're an amazing studio and this can be an amazing game. (posted in paladins forums, please share if you agree anywhere and everywhere)

[@wanh33da69]

about the ultimate abilities, you're wrong, in overwatch, a lot of offensive ultimates can wipe out a whole team with only one ultimate, but the only ultimates in paladins that can kill more than 3 players at once are like 1, 2 or 3 ults that are able to do that (skye's and bk's if the enemies are low on health), but in overwatch, a lot of them can wipe out a whole team, so OW ones are more powerful in general, but why are you even comparing the two?

[@FRed-mt6xk]

I equally like them. Its kinda unfair that some people think that when overwatch takes inspiration from archetypes and tf2, its ok, but when paladins takes inspiration from archetypes and overwatch, its not ok.

[@stara_garda_3]

I played Overwatch a lot of times on my friend's PC, and I play Paladins almost everyday on my own PC. However, I get bored of Overwatch pretty quick, while with Paladins I really can't stop. It's always "just one more round"

[@iluvatarchem]

Having played both Paladins and Overwatch I will say that Paladins is ok but OW is clearly better. Spending any money on Paladins is simply a huge mistake but if you absolutely need your 30$ then it's an entertaining game. If on the other hand you have a bit of money to spend you should absolutely get OW. There's simply no comparison between the two games in all aspects.

[@somedude96]

HTC definitely disagrees. esports.htc.com/articles/overwatch-vs-paladins

[@rey9397]

"Skye has a wide range bomb that does insane damage." Overwatch has D.va. "Bomb King rolls around and blows himself up." Overwatch has pretty much the same thing but instead of junkrat blowing himself up he uses a riptire

[@fancorzzz]

Yeah I can say the same thing about Overwatch: Why are Overwatch members killing each others? Why do Zenyatta go on a escort of EMP bomb to wipe out Omnics when he's one? Where's the progression of the story anyway?

[@k-dogg711]

Personally, I just find Paladins boring. I cringe everytime my friends want to play it, and I can't seem to stand it for more than 15 mins.

[@k-dogg711]

Jomar0915 I play a variety of games and not just overwatch. I just personally find the game boring since the first time I played it. I never said it was bad, but that I didn't enjoy it.

[@bytheside3331]

the maps are symmetrical because otherwise a certain team would have an advantage

[@MrShukaku1991]

He's complaining about Skye's ult being overpowered when it is the near exact same thing as D.va's but has to be placed manually, where D.va can throw hers with her thrusters.

[@proudguardofwhiterun5770]

I play both Overwatch and Paladins. It offers me some down time away from Overwatch, which is much needed every now and then since I am basically addicted to it, and don't want it to get super boring.

[@waffleimeanwulfi2884]

Well you could say the same thing about overwatch and its maps? Why are you even fighting?

[@whut9245]

everyone who's saying they copied overwatch's heroes there's only so many character abilities you can think up without making them unbalanced so that's my point

[@seimn86]

Similar heroes from Overwatch in Paladins in this video: Hanzo, Reinhardt, Roadhog (same hooks lol), Mei (especially the healing-in-iceberg-ability), Widowmaker. McCree, Soldier, Torbjörn, Pharah (exactly the same)... even the "fisiting" is there lol.

[@sailor3047]

mei was announced after evie, and evie plays nothing like her.

[@uchihas1995]

And Guess what those are generic heroes hook guy shield guy sniper guy bow guy rocket guy torrent guy , Jesus... This kids... Go and play more games

[@Muffie]

The rhino character is exactly like road hog. Shame.

[@detectiveq994]

pulling a character with a hook isnt the most original idea ever

[@Muffie]

+DovahkiinPony 2.6 😂😂😂 nice one.

[@CodyCombat]

Are you blind? That's a tortoise...

[@fancypantsy2741]

It's more like Rammus with a shotgun and hook.

[@Unknown-vr2gu]

yeh man, totally roadhog just because he got a hook ok

[@joedatius]

the biggest negative for me is how I personally don't like any of the character designs and I think that is rather important for a hero shooter.

[@pldsign]

holy shit; the ice block; the roadhog chain;the mcreaper; the big shield (reinhart); the archer; the turret boy;the grenade guy who have pretty much the same skills as junkrat. No matter what came first; Overwatch or Paladins, i'm a smite and overwatch addict so I will probably LOVE this GAME ! Can't wait to have it on console

[@chasearooni2119]

HOLY SHIT WE GOT ONE WHO GETS IT!

[@sporkralfio9350]

The nice thing about Paladins is that with unranked matchmaking, you can pubstomp. That is the sole reason I prefer it over Overwatch.

[@Ru7N420]

as far as characters ultimate ability, they all can be dodged. you can kill drogoz as he's charging toward you, skyes time bomb gives you a couple seconds to run, same with the airstrike. etc.

[@TheMacksgamer]

Grover is the only character that is probably not rushed out, although being blunt about it, he is from smite for those smite players that want to try it. But hi rez has a 3rd game, 1 pretty good hit, 1 Realy good hit, and this yet to be known.

[@jerseyjackrabbit2829]

knowing blizzard they probably wont take the "they copied us first" lightly, blizzard admitted they learn and play based on tf2, paladins said the same but claim overwatch copied what they learned and took from them, even though if you played the closed beta you know overwatch came first. at most they probably port a entire character and make him a million times better.

[@IANDURBECK]

I play both Overwatch and paladins, and to be honest I agree with a lot of what you have said. I actually enjoyed paladins but it is quite sad to see how the colors of the world, and the maps just feel so out of place and dull. The characters, thanks to that, also feel a bit... Off... I wish it was more livid and better. I wish the devs would see this video, read these comments and once they remove the tag "Beta" from the game... That they also remove the dullness along with it. It is an amazing game. I wish to see it grow

[@danielwhitaker2459]

I agree with you in 99% you said but the ow ultis are way more op. Soldier: Headshot everyone Reaper: Shoot shit amount of bullets at every side Tracer: same as Skye Mei: fucking freeze everyone and then one shot Mercy: Revive everyone your pointing at Junkrat: throw a wheel bomb which does shit amount of damage Etc... VS Victor: throw missiles (that don't one shot) in a small area Androxus: Turn your gun into a powerful one but mostly for 1v1 Skye: same as tracer Evie: slow enemies down in a small area Ghrok: Turn into a flying monk and heal Bombking: Turn into a bomb that does shit amount of damage (but it's different from junk rats cuz you turn into a bomb and you don't throw it) I think ow's are more op