268: Mike Israetel - Is the anabolic rebound after a cut real?

[@mrdisco8616]

I hope RP soon comes out with an Hypertrophy Training app soon that systemizes Mike's whole approach with the phases and the autoregulated modifiers. I know there are the physique templates but there is still quite a bit to be gained with a higher-tech solution IMO and I would love to see it.

[@ReviveStronger]

Oooooof that would be sweet but that's a hell of a lot of work! Thanks for watching! - Coach Jess

[@mrbartuss1]

What is missing in the templates?

[@RubenFRS]

I'm expecting it to happen, rp diet app began as templates and turned into an app. RPs progression models are literally a straight algorithm, they'd be super easy (in a theoretical sense) to put into app form. Plus they have experience in this as they helped with juggernauts training app back in the day, so fingers crossed 🤞🤞🤞

[@mrdisco8616]

@@RubenFRS That’s pretty much my thought process, every one of Mike’s video pretty much turns the answer to a question into an algorithm. If you put all of those together in app format the user can just input the specifics and preferences that are not dictated by Mike’s method and the app could make a very precise plan. The templates only implement some parts of that approach like some myopic volume autoregulation (an app could integrate your volume needs on a per exercise basis and over years)z

[@tomwaitsfornoone1182]

This aged well.

[@vasilzhiliev6057]

0:30 Don't we all Steve, don't we all

[@ReviveStronger]

Thanks for watching :) - Coach Jess

[@PaytonDowns]

I would love to know Broderick Chavez's plans for Mike during the 15 week prep. I guess that's personal info though.

[@ReviveStronger]

Yeah, I don't see them sharing that, you can always try to ask Mike on a pod or comment, but my hopes aren't up^^ - Coach Jess

[@patrickbarney7054]

yes SIR

[@ReviveStronger]

Hope you enjoyed it, thanks for watching, Patrick :) - Coach Jess

[@ryan__james]

fire

[@ReviveStronger]

Fancy seeing you here :p - Coach Jess

[@happym5717]

Mike gave a great ethical argument of the sliding scale of sentience. As a vegan I thought it was very well thought out, and vegan gains missed some quite clear thoughts. Great as always with Mike on the podcast

[@Hedgeflexlfz]

I’m still eating my meat

[@franciscohestnes]

@@Hedgeflexlfz I’m back to eating meat lol. Not because of that video. Training and dieting on a budget being lactose intolerant (no isolate for me) is very hard as a vegan/vegetarian. I am eating chicken for now.

[@Hedgeflexlfz]

@@franciscohestnes Same. I eat chicken tuna and egg whites

[@franciscohestnes]

@@Hedgeflexlfz yess! I forgot to say I was pescatarian before. Basically like you said. It’s just that I eat the whole egg or throw out a yolk if it doesn’t fit the macros for the meal.

[@ReviveStronger]

Thanks for sharing this, and thanks for watching! - Coach Jess

[@mrbouncelol]

Wrt the section at around 45:00... I think it's a bit rich to one one hand make money off a youtube fitness channel (ie by appealing to insecure 18-25 yo males) then turn around and joke that the universe should punish them for being so stupid If people weren't so stupid then youtube fitness would collapse overnight and it's not clear if that would be a net gain for society

[@mmm-bi1my]

Q for next episode w any of Mike/Eric/Menno etc etc...Well known natural champion UK bodybuilder AJ Morris added 20+lbs of stage weight in 4-5 years of training (with shows in between) and he was already an advanced-intermediate/advanced trainer....Despite being just 1 individual, is this enough of a result to question the long-held belief of advanced naturals only being able to gain

[@mmm-bi1my]

@Chris I’m aware of all of this bud :)

[@danmaxwell71]

Who said he is advanced-intermediate?

[@mmm-bi1my]

@@danmaxwell71 What do you mean who? It's my comment that I'm judging from his physique and his strength. Is there an official lifter-status spokesperson?

[@ReviveStronger]

Feel free to post the question on the last Improvement season episode as it's there that they're picked, or on our membersite or Facebook group :) Thanks for watching! - Coach Jess

[@nicolasklug2311]

I see Mike, I watch and thumbs up the video !

[@ReviveStronger]

Hope you enjoyed it ;) Thanks for the support! - Coach Jess

[@ibratotti200]

It was a pleasure hearing the answer to my question from mike, thanks for sharing it guys 👏🏻 Note : its funny hearing my name “ibrahim” being pronounced by foreigners haha

[@ReviveStronger]

You're very welcome, thanks for watching :) - Coach Jess

[@femoris8502]

When I warm up on the adductor and abductor machine with some sets of 15-20 my squats feel much better and stronger especially in the hips

[@femoris8502]

@Chris I recently narrowed it a bit but I tend to be on the wider side that makes sense

[@ReviveStronger]

That checks out, that will probably ruin it for me xD Thanks for watching! - Coach Jess

[@RubenFRS]

I just want Jess to reply to my comment

[@ReviveStronger]

I just comment to tease you. Hehehe - Pascal

[@Tom_North]

Just curious, Do all of you at Revive Stronger use the RP method or are there some of you who prefer methods that other people use, such as Eric Helms with RPE instead of RIR?

[@ReviveStronger]

Sorry Peter, I'd need you to elaborate. What makes you think we use the "RP method"? Also, what exactly is the RP method and Eric Helms method?

[@Tom_North]

@@ReviveStronger - Sorry, that was poorly worded by me! I just mean do you guys prefer the use of RIR vs RPE (I say “Eric’s method” because I hear him use RPE a lot, more than RIR). For me, I’ve used RPE in the past and have seen good progress but It was only until I started using the RIR approach and Mike’s use of pump, disruption, soreness etc to monitor progress, fatigue, when to appropriately add volume etc, that I started seeing better gains and understood the process a little more. I feel I’ve heard Steve, and seen other team members of RS mention the use of RIR in their training rather than RPE. So I was just curious if you guys have used RPE in the past but prefer RIR? I hope that makes sense!? 😁

[@ReviveStronger]

@@Tom_North I see! In itself RIR and RPE are the same. I even think that Eric is using RIR as well if I remember correctly. It's just a number that is a reflection of your estimation of how many reps you have left. That's basically it. Nothing more to it :)

[@andrijajanfranjcec6888]

Great video as always, but I have one concern. I read that fast twitch muscle fibers (which are the largest and grow the most) recover slower than slow twitch fibers and if you rest for to little time , you'll run mostly on slow twitch fibers on your next set. That kinda contradicts with Menno's statement, from another podcast, that if you're time limited it's better to shorten the rest periods and do more volume and Mike's statement that hitting less reps on each next set doesn't matter if target muscle is still the limiting factor and you do 5+ reps. Do I need to rest a bit longer then if I want fast twitch fibers to be ready to fire up maximally or at least very close to maximally? I've literally watched over 10 videos , (including podcasts) in last few days, trying to find the answer and the only thing I found is so much contradicting info.

[@DC-wo2yb]

We can only speculate

[@Magic_beans_]

If we’re talking competitive bodybuilders, I’d agree basically nobody’s trying for a B. GenPop though, a solid B is pretty damn good. Most folks would be thrilled to hear they can get 12-15% bodyfat (low 20s for the ladies) and 75% of their genetic muscular potential on 4 hours a week of training and a pretty good but not immaculate diet.

[@ReviveStronger]

For sure! Thanks for watching! - Coach Jess

[@kaganas_edits7551]

In the first question, did mike mean after a maintenance phase or a maintenance week of lets say deload and then back to mass?

[@ReviveStronger]

Maintenance phase I'm assuming :) - Coach Jess

[@ranggasaktibudiputra1547]

That pose on thumbnail looks menacing af ngl

[@ReviveStronger]

It sure does!! Thanks for watching! - Coach Jess

[@gamerchristina1079]

LOVE!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!! 💪💪❤️❤️‼️

[@ReviveStronger]

Thank you!! - Coach Jess

[@zelenisok]

With regards to veganism, 99% of people have like a dozen micronutrients which they dont take in recommended amounts, probably nowhere near that, imo sounds nonsensical to assume that vegans are likely to have deficiencies but non-vegans are not. Meat (except organ meat) tends to be very very low in virtually all vitamins and minerals; eating legumes and nuts and seeds instead of meat will give a person incomparably more micronutrients. Everyone should take vitamin D and calcium supplements probably, iodine for sure, that is why iodized salt exists. Vegans specifically need to take b12 supplements, and thats it (btw b12 vitamin is a bacterial product, and is added as a supplement to animal feed, which is why meat milk and eggs have it).

[@zelenisok]

Neither of those is actually true tho. Firstly, conventional food is as nutritious as organic food, all studies and analyses show that. Secondly, red meat is not nutritious, look up the nutrient profiles, most vitamins and minerals arent even listed bc they are in trace amounts, and those that are listed are between 5% and 15% of daily recommended value per 100g, meaning theyre a bad source.

[@Gengh13]

Vegans should also include retinol, EPA/DHA, zinc, creatine, K2 to at least offset some of their diet deficiencies besides the ones you already mentioned. I definitely don't agree with calcium supplementation for omnivores, the RDA is pretty high without a good reason.

[@zelenisok]

Also another point which i didnt mention, ive heard people (science based fitness people) say plant protein is not good as animal protein bc it has low levels of leucine. I mean, if a person takes for protein wheat and oats only, sure, but soy actually has more leucine than almost all meat (the exceptions are dried seal and whale meat).

[@zelenisok]

@ghengisnico thats not true, eg you enumerated creatine, which isnt even an essential nutrient, neither is retinol, body can make retinol from carotene, of which eg sweet potato, carrot, pumpkin, and spinach are great sources of.

[@Gengh13]

@@zelenisok look up DIAAS, plant protein is objectively inferior to animal sources, can you compensate for it by eating from several sources to get a complete aminoacid profile and eating more? Maybe, but it is not optimal. And as the other commenter said 100g of muscle meat has a lot of micronutrients, but to hit my micros I eat liver almost every day.