Reviving Grandpa's Forgotten Tractors - Will They Start After 5 Years?

Reviving Grandpa's Forgotten Tractors - Will They Start After 5 Years? | Vintage Ford Tractor Start

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@Lackieestatesfarm 3 ай бұрын

I’ve got a 135 massey Ferguson diesel and a 4600 ford diesel. One point I want to point out about your trans/hydraulic fluid. On my 4600 they do take the same fluids, but, are actually 2 different reservoirs. There is a seal between them. To check the hyd fluid, which comes from the rear diff, you have to unscrew a plug down beside the diff lock pedal, and pour fluid in the plug behind the seat until it runs out of the hole

@savvysprocket 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the tip. I noticed that I had made a mistake while assuming they were the same reservoir after reading a bit more from a service manual. It is on my list to check correctly once I get time to work on that tractor again.

@Coffeeology 7 ай бұрын

great hib getting that back up and running!

@savvysprocket 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@aesthetic3616 7 ай бұрын

I had a 1974 ford 2000 gasser, mostly mowed and yarded some trees but it sure did the trick for me.

@savvysprocket 7 ай бұрын

They are perfect machines for that. My grandfather has used this 3000 on his property but it also kept him a few clients over the years that he did finish mowing for and even some brush hogging with.

@Ham68229 7 ай бұрын

From your description on the wiring issue, honestly, replace the distributor cap, points and condenser. As for the starter, replace the bendix drive, those are easily done. Many will tell you to replace the points and condenser and go with electronic ignition, with today's "quality", wasting money on doing so. I had a Ford 881 SoS, had a similar issue, get warmed up and ran solid for an hr or 2 then just quit. Had to do some digging and the cap was cracked internally. Couldn't see the crack until it was hot. Fords were always a solid tractor. If these 2 tractors have been sitting for a while like you said, just go ahead and service them now, fresh fluids goes a long ways, specially when diagnosing issues. The hydraulics, there can be many issues to cause them to not work. Stuck valves, rust, so many things. You'll want to get a high pressure gauge and some hoses with couplers, you'll be spending some time fooling around with the valves, check valves first. If you're lucky, it's just a check valve that needs work, if not, you'll be digging into the pump. Glad to see them running again at least.

@savvysprocket 7 ай бұрын

An interior crack in the cap? Very interesting! I'm not sure if my grandfather had tried a different cap on this tractor since he was having the issue. I'll have to ask him. Fingers crossed the hydraulics issues doesn't turn into messing with the pump. Thanks for the comments. Cheers.

@Ham68229 7 ай бұрын

@@savvysprocket Distributor caps can be funny when they crack. If you do have to work on the pump, honestly, they're easier than you think.

@lucgagnon5241 7 ай бұрын

Those Ford tractors were legendary reliable. Especially the 3000 unit. Like most of the tractors in that range of power (35hp to 45hp). We are talking about 50 years old tractors here. I own a 1967 Selectamatic David Brown 880. All restored. It was built like a tank for a 43hp tractor. But I won't get thru another restoration again. Not because it doesn't worth it. Mostly because even if those are simple mechanic machines, it's hard to find people to fix them.

@savvysprocket 7 ай бұрын

That is so true. Today's modern machines require a different set of skills and tools to work on. It is too bad that many of these older machines will continue to be forgotten. I hope I can do my fair share of keeping some of the old originals up and running over my years wrenching.

@double-h-farms 6 ай бұрын

Those ford tractors are like the older 8ns, workmaster series, when they run they run great with very little problems but when they get a problem it's usually a nightmare to figure out

@savvysprocket 6 ай бұрын

Fingers crossed these continue to stay running! @double-h-farms do you run any older Fords yourself?

@jankotze1959 7 ай бұрын

That was two nice start ups, we had two 3000's and two 5000's many years ago, never had problems

@savvysprocket 7 ай бұрын

They certainly are well-built tractors. Overall the process went smoother than I was expecting but I'm not going to complain about that. What years were your units?

@jankotze1959 7 ай бұрын

All of the four was in 70's, 71 till 76 @@savvysprocket

@rudycarlson8245 7 ай бұрын

@@savvysprocket is the 3000 a diesel?

@savvysprocket 7 ай бұрын

@rudycarlson8245 no it is not it has a 3-cylinder gas engine in it

@russellyoung1181 7 ай бұрын

Look like the 4610 has a CAV/Lucas injector pump, which is common to many Fords, Masseys and even JDs of the era. I've been around two now which develop leaks over time in the o-rings around the throttle and/or cutoff shafts that stick vertically out of the top (rectangular dome) of the pump. Mine went a few years leaking when it ran, and then started leaking while it sat- just like what you described. If you have access to the pump, the o-rings can be changed right on the machine without removing the pump and without messing with timing, etc. It took me with a little help from my 12 year-old about 20 minutes to do the whole repair once we cleaned up the greasy dirt around the area. Parts were $9 on amazon- o-rings, washers under the stud nuts and a new gasket for the dome. Not a drip since! Look for CAV Lucas O-ring videos on youtube. There are a bunch showing what's needed. You and your grandpa (and the garage floor) will be happy! Thanks for the great vid, and glad you can support our grandfather in this way. I'm sure he likes knowing someone's looking out for this stuff, even if he can't use them himself anymore. Good luck!

@savvysprocket 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for this tip! The injector leak is on the list to get fixed up on this unit after the hydraulics get sorted. It is great to hear that it could be a inexpensive and simple job. Funny you mention the floor. This poor floor has seen so much over the years, we have always kept multiple buckets of speedy dry to help catch the next leak. Thank you for watching!

@jerryware5749 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for posting about the leaks on the CAV. I have an '85 3910 dripping at the rear of the CAV and did not know how far I was going to have to get into it.

@northdakotaham1752 7 ай бұрын

I have several Fords, 2N, 2600, 3400 and 4400. The last three with 3 cylinder gas engines. All have been very reliable over thousands of hours of use. Despite being old they always run. I have converted two of them over to electronic ignition which has definitely improved the reliability and removed the maintenance of ignition points/condenser. The cost was about $80 per tractor. That 3000 appears to have the more reliable Zenith carburetor which I have found to be better than the Holley unit you sometimes see. Note; I always shut the fuel off on gas tractors when I am finished using them.

@savvysprocket 7 ай бұрын

What electronic ignition system did you use for the conversions? That is something I have been thinking would be a good next upgrade.

@northdakotaham1752 7 ай бұрын

@@savvysprocket price has gone up since the last one I installed.

@russwabuda1556 7 ай бұрын

boy those things. wow is it hard to work on that distributor in the place where they put it. i like those tractors but electrically they are hard to work on. best wishes

@savvysprocket 7 ай бұрын

The angle to get into the insides of the distributor really is horrible! It required a collection of different screwdrivers to get things tight again. Thanks for watching.

@chriswhitehead83 7 ай бұрын

Does that 3000 have power steering? I have a 3000 and the power steering cylinder is in a weird place that binds with the steering arm. Everywhere I look the cylinder should be in another place. Just wondering where other years have it.

@savvysprocket 7 ай бұрын

This 3000 has the same power steering cylinder setup that you are describing. Unless when you say binds do you mean it actually contacts your steering arm or is it just aligned with it?

@JTChainsawshop 4 ай бұрын

I have a 1988 4610 diesel

@savvysprocket 4 ай бұрын

They are a great older unit. What do you use yours for mainly?

@JTChainsawshop 4 ай бұрын

@@savvysprocket I have a 7209 ford loader and a bush hog And blade and some plows

@rtundlt1 7 ай бұрын

The 3000 runs then quits and after it cools down it runs again? Sounds like a classic ignition coil going bad. First place I'd start

@savvysprocket 7 ай бұрын

That is the same idea I had at first however the primary and secondary coil tested out at the correct resistance. Maybe warming the coil up and checking it again would give more information. I'll have to give that a try. For now however it is running well enough to use for final fall cleanup.