Buying vintage chisels online: a complete guide.

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Rex Krueger

Rex Krueger

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@nethercone
@nethercone 4 жыл бұрын
I think of you as the Alton Brown of woodworking. Your videos feel like an episode of Good Eats. I’m loving this channel. Gives you a direction to go. Instead of just flailing around buying this, that and the other tool that you probably won’t ever need. Thank you.
@windmillacres679
@windmillacres679 Жыл бұрын
LOL! My wife overheard this video. She said "Who's that? He sounds like Alton Brown." No bigger compliment around my house!
@pulsehead
@pulsehead 4 жыл бұрын
@16:25; I love me them Talenti containers! Best part is they are much cheaper than similar jars in the hardware store, and they even come with a FREE PINT OF GELATO IN THEM!
@rontocknell5400
@rontocknell5400 4 жыл бұрын
I love the terminology of wood turning tools & equipment... such as 'jam chuck'. Sounds delicious, doesn't it? “Another jam chuck, vicar? They're home made”. The round nose scraper got my grandson wondering... particularly as I have a rather round nose. He thought I'd scraped it into that shape. My flat bottom scraper positively traumatised the poor little bugger. The bowl gouge is normally pretty self-explanatory... a gouge for hollowing out bowls. I managed to get one surprisingly cheap even for Ebay, which I'm sure was down to the way it was described. I don't know if it was autocorrect or just sloppy spelling but I was the only bidder for the “used half-inch bowel gouge”. It seems that the bowel gouge market has bottomed out. The “used” probably didn't help much either. Still, one man's used bowel gouge is another man's bargain.
@edwardmccouch738
@edwardmccouch738 4 жыл бұрын
IMO you should do a video on how to scavenge old furniture for building a decent scrap pile in the shop. What to look for, what to avoid, and the best ways to turn it into useful scrap for your next project. You could include stuff like hardware vs softwood, which furniture items are more likely to be of no use and which parts are always useful. Ever since that video where you said you skinned a leather chair like a buffalo for leather for strops I've been wondering what old furniture is worth turning into waiting scrap... and maybe a followup video on how to create a scrap pile that won't get thrown out by your SO!
@TheLexiconDevils
@TheLexiconDevils 4 жыл бұрын
David Oakes so don’t fucking do it
@edwardmccouch738
@edwardmccouch738 4 жыл бұрын
100 year old tables aren't common in my neck of the woods. My question is purely in the interest of getting decent wood for free. There are plenty of times where I see furniture on the side of the road with busted legs or similar states of disrepair and people are just throwing them away b/c they don't want the furniture anymore. Rex talks about (in scattered videos) using discarded furniture in different projects. I am curious to see if there is a method to his madness. (When I said "in the shop", I meant 'my workshop' not 'store'.)
@charlesward8196
@charlesward8196 Жыл бұрын
Love this video, I hope it inspires other to take up the challenge.
@maf5454
@maf5454 Жыл бұрын
I love to restore vintage tools to their original glory too. I think those old ladies are far better steel than those made now and each and everyone has a story behind them. Better yet most of them can be had for a song because folks a just trying to get rid of them! Be well and safe peace to you and yours.
@mic3a26
@mic3a26 4 жыл бұрын
Your visual teaching style is unparalleled. Interesting, accessible & thorough...with a bit of you thrown in. So glad we have you in OUR community spending oodles of time producing woodworking-related material!
@HiFiTown
@HiFiTown 4 жыл бұрын
Rex, the best video yet! Please do more videos like this. Your knowledge is invaluable!
@jonathantillian6528
@jonathantillian6528 4 жыл бұрын
Tonight 200,000 people are flooding ebay with chisel searches.
@jmquez
@jmquez 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got 100’s to list! Fun night listing 👍👍
@Loweboy
@Loweboy 4 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing. Haha
@gopro2804
@gopro2804 4 жыл бұрын
But not mortise chisels....Rex is after a few of those himself so the advice is “don’t buy!” 🤪🤪
@systemtrader1
@systemtrader1 4 жыл бұрын
Now we have to wait a few months.....
@artstudios6622
@artstudios6622 4 жыл бұрын
That damm sellers effect😅😂
@RobMacKendrick
@RobMacKendrick 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this extremely practical video, Rex! I'm an eBay warrior myself; nothing beats the rush of an awesome auction - showing up in the right place at the right time and walking off with a bargain. I always feel sorry for the seller... but hey, LOOK WHAT I SCORED!!
@TankToChest
@TankToChest 4 жыл бұрын
YES!!! More! Do like hammers, mallets, clamps, go through all your tools we really enjoy learning this stuff and you really saved me time!!!
@tayriggles
@tayriggles 4 жыл бұрын
ME TOO- Tank to Chest - I AGREE WITH HIM DO HAMMERS AND ALL YOUR TOOLS!!!
@cazadordetesoros5357
@cazadordetesoros5357 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a stanley 750 socket chisel 1 1/4 for $1.50 and a Bailey no 4 for $3 at a garage sale, I was very happy! I always watch your videos!
@donbass6657
@donbass6657 2 ай бұрын
I recently bought several Narex Richter chisels and have to say they are the most comfortable handles I’ve ever held! And I’m comparing them to 750’s, Japanese, Bergs, and dozens of other antique chisels I’ve acquired over the years!
@brendanlangord1687
@brendanlangord1687 4 жыл бұрын
I have only recently started tool restorations as a hobby (unemployed because of the pandemic) and started out just making up how to go about restoring things. The first thing I restored back in March, was and old rusted Boston pencil sharpener that was in my basement. I made a lot of mistakes and it didn't turn out that great, but it was fun. Since then, I have gotten a littler bit better, and watching this video helped me realize that, because I restored a couple chisel. I was making it up as a went along, but went through the same steps you did (although I did use your video to figure out how to sharpen it), and they are part of my inventory of tools that I use regularly. Keep up the good work, and keep sharing your knowledge. Thanks.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@gnarthdarkanen7464
@gnarthdarkanen7464 3 жыл бұрын
Just curious... rotating cutter assemblies or rotating "razor blades" inside that pencil sharpener??? I've restored both... Discovered on a lot of the old "razor blade" (cheap) versions, an "injector razor" type blade was almost exactly the same thing... The rotating cutters (look sort of like the spiral cutter assemblies from a power planer) can be a B**** to sharpen... SO I'm sort of wondering what you attempted??? Again... just curious... ;o)
@RandomRockHero
@RandomRockHero 4 жыл бұрын
You got this video just right. Crucial points for me were showing how to detect quality chisels, which damages are fixable/acceptable and the actual restoration. Price expectations are a nice bonus. Wrapping all this in a video with excellent flow makes it even better. You're doing great! I'm off to shop chisels, mate.
@ok-hd4so
@ok-hd4so 4 жыл бұрын
This is the BEST woodworking channel. I love the get to the point and thorough style. Cheers mate!
@Gotmovezlikejagga
@Gotmovezlikejagga 4 жыл бұрын
Firstly, Rex thank you for being a voice of reason in what can be a very expensive hobby. As the love of hobby wood working grew for me I quickly became discouraged that to build simple furniture, a few 400 dollar planes and saws made it impractical. Then I watched a few you tube channels, yours in particular, and learned how to restore planes, saws etc. This process of restoration increased my understanding of the tool and improved my wood working. Please keep up the great work of making wood working affordable and possible for people without unlimited money to spend on tools. Thank you
@altheteacher
@altheteacher 4 жыл бұрын
And this is the video series I was waiting for, excellent information to help me buy the tools I really need. My wife is going to hate it!!
@slomkaadas9603
@slomkaadas9603 4 жыл бұрын
YES - more tips, more videos, every tools! Thank you Rex. Cheers 🍻
@scottrowlings5345
@scottrowlings5345 4 жыл бұрын
Cue vintage socket chisel prices tripling overnight! Great video
@lectorserelith
@lectorserelith 4 жыл бұрын
Every time Rex makes a new video, the amount of used tools for sale on the market plummets.
@NonFerricIrony
@NonFerricIrony 4 жыл бұрын
Dammit Rex! I haven't finished collecting all the socket chisels I wanted...you are going to cause a Paul Sellers price spike on these. Seriously, great topic, well covered. Back to Ebay to check on my bids.
@Kikilang60
@Kikilang60 4 жыл бұрын
Prices spikes are real, and the fallowing scarcity afterwards. There was a point in time, where brace and bits common as dirt. This one place had a brace and bit nail on the wall outside, as decoration. I went back, and they had yank it down, and sold it.
@theeddorian
@theeddorian 4 жыл бұрын
Not just Paul Sellers. Christopher Schwartz had dark effects on my favorite Bailey type 11. I like them because they are easier to adjust than other Bailey types, and they were dead cheap until Mr. Schwartz called them out as a bargain.
@michaelrogers4157
@michaelrogers4157 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kikilang60 yeah, used to find braces for $5 and the bits for $1 to $2 a piece or 10 for $5 at every yard sale, flea market and pawn shop around me. Now? I haven't seen either in a pawn shop in years and when you do come across either at a flea or yard sale these days they're 5X that amount or more.
@מעייןהמלבלבתחייםםםם
@מעייןהמלבלבתחייםםםם 4 жыл бұрын
I have just restored a 6mm chisel that was belong to my grandfather ( he was a carpenter), i had it for years and i have not used it for chiseling. after reading a Paul sellers vlog i have decided to revive the chisel and without any experience i restored it: i had to make a new handle so i carved it with my Mora carving knife and a chisel, i have cleaned it from the rust and i gave it a new sharp edge ( can cut hair). I want to thank you because it's not that i am learning from you a lot, because of your videos im using more hand tools and I'm enjoying woodworking much more!! I have build your English jointer bench and it is the most important tool that i have ( more than my table saw) at my arsenal
@TheKidStoop
@TheKidStoop 4 жыл бұрын
Old bucks and pextos are PHENOMENAL. I see them all the time for around a buck or two a chisel.
@MrMartinSchou
@MrMartinSchou 4 жыл бұрын
Just don't get sucked into buying 5 bucks for a tenner ;)
@daviddeitrick27
@daviddeitrick27 4 жыл бұрын
Saws Specifically panel type saws, and sharpening equipment (AKA Saw Set). Your previously described Saw vice is great.
@jerryjohnsonii4181
@jerryjohnsonii4181 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the knowledge, Rex !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jtreg
@jtreg 4 жыл бұрын
Yes please more buying advice thanks Rex!
@professor62
@professor62 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, Rex! Please do the exact same kind of video on buying hand planes online.
@lazarjovic9948
@lazarjovic9948 4 жыл бұрын
Excited to see this, I've started looking for a specific tool on ebay yesterday, so the timing is impeccable!
@alangreen3425
@alangreen3425 4 жыл бұрын
Gee thanks buddy! Now the opening bids on old vintage chisels have quadrupled! LOL Enjoyed the video...always learn something.
@namAehT
@namAehT 4 жыл бұрын
I recently bought (and restored) a set of James Swan augers that were still in their original box. They were in surprisingly good condition and I got the whole set for $40 at an antique store. The box even had Stanley hinges on it with the SW heart logo.
@majorhox
@majorhox 4 жыл бұрын
The black patina on the older chisels is a type of rust that causes the bluing effect and actually helps protect the steel.
@jimf1964
@jimf1964 4 жыл бұрын
I've collected a few antique firearms, and your description of the metal is right on. There is a difference in the look of the steel, and it's this specific type of grey, or dark grey, to blackish. Nothing better. Thanks for the tips!
@darkone1685
@darkone1685 4 жыл бұрын
Darker the higher the carbon !
@watermain48
@watermain48 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for driving the price of good used chisels through the roof Rex. LOL. Great video, as always.
@johnhemby8631
@johnhemby8631 4 жыл бұрын
This is great perspective. Was just chisels shopping for new ones but might have a go at vintage now. I definitely like my old plane more than the new ones. Also satisfying to give an old tool new life
@tylersmith9868
@tylersmith9868 4 жыл бұрын
Was recently gifted a full set of E A Berg shark brand chisels, was delighted to research and find out how highly regarded they are.
@GCaF
@GCaF 4 жыл бұрын
My father used to have only firmer chisels. In his days, the carpenters in our area used those only for splitting and removing big pieces of wood. In some cases... even for splitting logs, but that was rare. Mostly when there was a lot of stock removal to be made, instead of taking small shavings, a firmer chisel would be placed in a the most effective spot (while reading the grain to make sure the split won't mess the work piece up) and hit with a big hammer. It was actually quite time saving... albeit a bit risky. I love this series Rex! Please do more tools! Hand planes of course... but even glue and saws and mallets and hammers and so on :)
@Mikey__R
@Mikey__R 4 жыл бұрын
My Grandad was a carpenter and builder. By the time he was passing on his trade to his grand kids, his firmer chisels had been sharpened to the length of butt chisels. I actually thought that was how long chisels were supposed to be, and wondered why the chisels at school were so long! I don't remember him ever using anything other than these firmer chisels. Indeed, he never used the word "firmer," he just called them chisels. I didn't hear the word till I read it on the internet.
@GCaF
@GCaF 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mikey__R Same here... I just now realized from Rex while watching the video that they were the "firmer" ones :)
@charleswilson8915
@charleswilson8915 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again Rex, for a very informative video. I have been working up to buying a few chisels, but wasn't sure which ones to get. I watched your video where you talked about which ones you use, it led me to watch this video. Now I'm ready to commit myself to some purchases. Thanks! 😊
@tayriggles
@tayriggles 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, please do more of these. I'm learning so MUCH!!!
@bickybickford
@bickybickford 4 жыл бұрын
Very well done I have been restoring and selling vintage hand tools for years
@18roselover
@18roselover 4 жыл бұрын
Rex. I found testing knives, chisels, plane blades were most effective when done on a soft piece of pine. If the cut line is clean and the pine has a slight sheen . Your edge is sharp
@shawnbottom4769
@shawnbottom4769 4 жыл бұрын
Good timing as I’m searching for chisels the last week or so. As with most items on eBay though it takes a lot of patience. The usual “cast of characters” there often drive the prices way up.
@edrudolph1
@edrudolph1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rex, always learn a lot from you.
@kylekinsey2624
@kylekinsey2624 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I live in an area where old tools like this just aren't available locally. And even flea markets are rare.
@oliverwhite820
@oliverwhite820 4 жыл бұрын
It's like the internet was listening! I've been thinking to buy a couple of new chisels for a week or so now, mostly looking at a range of new products, then I thought - I wonder if Rex has any advice on this? Well, yes. Yes you do. In case all the vintage chisels across Europe and the US have been snatch up already, I'll defo look into the Narex brand.
@6h471
@6h471 Жыл бұрын
I have most of a set of old Greenlee socket chisels that belonged to my grandfather, probably bought in the 1930's. The blades are quite long, I'm guessing about 9 inches including the socket. They aren't pretty anymore due to a lot of use, and have sort of tiny handles, but they take and hold a good edge. I retired them and now use a set of the cheapest Narex ones, which are very good IMO.
@gavinhouliston
@gavinhouliston 4 жыл бұрын
Hand planes - just general tips for buying different brands, # of plane, type, condition etc - for Stanley, Record and so on, what's a good price, what's a bad price, what should you look for when choosing a plane to buy to restore and use, what to avoid, what potential problems could one come across and so on. Love your content Rex, keep it up man. All the best!!
@yooper5638
@yooper5638 4 жыл бұрын
Cool. I recently picked up a never-used six piece set of vintage Japanese Nomi chisels for $60 on ebay. Plus shipping. From Japan. So, more like $80 total. That's still only $13 per chisel, and they're awesome.
@briansmith8632
@briansmith8632 4 жыл бұрын
Your tips (and observations) on how to search Ebay were extremely helpful - I've been shopping for tools there for years, but when I tried your parameters, the prices dropped dramatically. Well done!
@crichtonbruce4329
@crichtonbruce4329 4 жыл бұрын
Valuable info, well presented (as usual). Don't ignore butt chisels. My favorite chisel is a 1" wide vintage "J. Howarth Cast Steel" make that I go to for so many things as it feels like a natural extension of my hand. It takes and holds a wonderful edge. I love it for fine paring.
@codyp1056
@codyp1056 4 жыл бұрын
You don't need mortise chisels to chop a mortise. Bevel edge chisels work just fine, as long as you don't try to pry with them.
@jean-paulbaudet2951
@jean-paulbaudet2951 4 жыл бұрын
Cody P agreed I can’t remember ever needing one except making a my bench only time warred mortis
@drpoppyseed
@drpoppyseed 2 жыл бұрын
The patina is a sign of high carbon content, frequently with low chromium, which was THE way to make good steel prior to y2k. Also, of note: powered grinding is fine for reshaping, but even if the steel never gets noticeably hot, the very pinnacle of the edge can heat up and cool down much faster than the thicker area, and the very edge therefore tempers (ie gets softer), reducing the hardness and limiting the life of the edge. As said, fine for reshaping, but you will likely notice that if you hand sharpen the chisel, after 2 or 3 sharpens you'll move past the tempered steel and the edges will begin to last longer. Love the videos, they've taught me more than just about anything else on this site about woodworking.
@jerrystark3587
@jerrystark3587 4 жыл бұрын
An interesting and informative video. Good advice, as always. Thank you!
@sethwalker6284
@sethwalker6284 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Kruger! Back in February I snagged a great deal in an antique store on a 1 1/2 inch socket chisel. It was in immaculate condition, having the original handle and absolutely no mushrooming on the socket. I got it for under $6 (I don't recall the exact amount), and upon cleaning it up a little I found that same dark patina on the blade and the shiny socket. I threw a decent edge on it and spun a new handle, and that bad boy works amazingly for my heavy-duty shaping/paring. The main point of this comment is to ask you about the brand. It has "Trustworthy" stamped in flowing cursive letters on the top of the blade, that being the only markings anywhere on it. Do you know anything about that company? I realize this information I seek has nothing to do with its performance, but it's always fun to know the history behind your tools. Thank you for your time spent making this video!
@greasy148
@greasy148 4 жыл бұрын
S.J. Addis is a great old name from the mid 1800s for carving gouges and the like, a family friend gave me a whole box of em a few years back and they are the best steel out of any of my tools. I have put a lot of miles on one of the gouges and have only sharpened it three times since acquiring it. a quick hit on the strop and its razor sharp.
@jaredqualls1452
@jaredqualls1452 4 жыл бұрын
Love this. Thanks Rex!
@maf5454
@maf5454 Жыл бұрын
@RexKrueger Thank you my brother! I like your philosophy and practical manner regarding vintage chisels and tools. I work in a vintage tool store and love restoring these grand old ladies to their original glory. Believe me, when a tool comes in the door you would not believe the condition some are in. I have restored numerous Witherby, Stanley and Buck tools. Many of them as I like to say have had a "tough life". For the most part if not all have seen a course grinding wheel in their past, ouch! Sure for the real beat up ones the only remedy to their problem(s) is a grinding wheel. I have designed and built numerous fixtures and jigs to let me control remaking bevels and cleaning up sockets and tangs. I personally like to use a large flat bed belt sander to reform the bevels. I find the flatness of the bed is better, for me at least, than a wheel. And, I can adjust the jigs to make the bevel "factory" again. I personally don't like the curve the wheel puts on the bevel, but that's me! For me personally, I like using a large, 12x12, piece of float glass or thick smooth floor tile for sharpening and honing. Numerous grades of silicon carbide wet/dry paper, a leather strop board a custom jig and the edges are restored, my customers say better than factory. I like using wet/dry because I dislike maintaining stones and I have a ready source for the papers, the store takes in huge quantities. The handles are another story. Many come in without one, or they are split. Fortunately I have a large selection on hand and usually can find a replacement. If not I make one from hardwood and install it on the tool. Keep up your great work and spreading the word of vintage tools. Remember, craftsmen and women used these tools to create thing we still use to this day. Be well and safe peace to you and yours.
@charleskyler1928
@charleskyler1928 4 жыл бұрын
I can fix that Wetherby... I’ve been doing some forge work, and have had success on several with bugled sockets. Remember, the socket is usually not hardened.
@Cadwaladr
@Cadwaladr 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was thinking it might be fixable in the forge, though if you don't upset it back into shape, you could end up with a big cold shut all the way around.
@joshpirogovsky
@joshpirogovsky 4 жыл бұрын
I’m SO glad this released! I’m planning on making a modern end table and want to chisel a mortise for a supporting piece. My chisels are cheap and dull, however. I only have three sizes as well. Thank you SO much!
@tessarnold7597
@tessarnold7597 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely would love to see a video about hand planes, in the same vein as the chisel vid above. Great stuff.
@danmontie6367
@danmontie6367 4 жыл бұрын
+1 for this!
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 4 жыл бұрын
+2 including a few specialty planes like tongue & groove and circular palnes.
@kevinxxx1387
@kevinxxx1387 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an excellent and informative video. I'm at the watching video stage of just getting started in woodworking, so this is just what I need.
@kennysoutherland9801
@kennysoutherland9801 4 жыл бұрын
For rust removal, I find a wire cup in a drill press works better. (If you have a drill press.) It is more open as the wires are not so close to the motor, and your don't have to worry about the wires flying off and hitting you in the face. Also, they are a little less expensive.
@jamesanthony5874
@jamesanthony5874 4 жыл бұрын
14:52 So bets on when the Krueger Effect is going to kick in and the price on these brands skyrockets? ;-)
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
I doubt it!
@digadigado
@digadigado 4 жыл бұрын
@@RexKrueger for the next week at least
@MtnBike60532
@MtnBike60532 4 жыл бұрын
@@RexKrueger Don't underestimate yourself! 43 minutes after this video previewed, it has 235 likes. All you need to do is generate 2 additional bidders on a chisel and the price should increase significantly (unless none are willing to pay even $1 more.)
@jmquez
@jmquez 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly there is billions of this, specially Union, pexto etc, I’ve got 100+ that I need to list, but as all eBay sellers, I’m too lazy to list lol
@theeddorian
@theeddorian 4 жыл бұрын
@@RexKrueger You shouldn't. Your site is a really good site for all of us amateurs, part timers, DIYers getting serious, and first timers.
@jbtallullah7009
@jbtallullah7009 4 жыл бұрын
The Worth chisel looks like my Pexto chisels. Pexto chisels are amazing. Love the video.
@jbtallullah7009
@jbtallullah7009 4 жыл бұрын
Crap everyone if going to buy up all the Pextos. Damn you Rex. I mean Pextos are horrible.
@michalziska9558
@michalziska9558 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Rex :) I used Narex chisels at school, and a many many yers after, they are great, It doesn't cost much money, they are very sharp and easy to sharpen them, BUT! construction on tang is a very bad solution. the handle does not last long, and after a relatively short time the handle crack near the bolster, and it is very difficult to repair or make new handle is so difficult to. But, for a beginners or really hobby use it's a great tool.
@oystercovecraftsman9219
@oystercovecraftsman9219 4 жыл бұрын
I don't use socket chisels, and the chisels I make are all tang/ferrule construction. But the super glue idea is a good one. I will definitely steal that if I ever aquire socket chisels
@kentonward97
@kentonward97 2 жыл бұрын
Corner chisels ( timber framing ) are for building timber houses , and log
@tonyminehan2323
@tonyminehan2323 4 жыл бұрын
When I looked for my first hand plane of the bay, to replace the Stanley that I had (which grew legs) I was looking at around £25 and up but thanks to Rex, I found that the newer Stanley's were not so great and it was a case of knowing which number 4 and what year, which I didn't have a clue about. So I bought a no name Bailey pattern, brand new, delivered for £8-49 it required a lot of work, but in the end I got a plane that, we're it not for Gravity, the shavings would have floated. Again, this setup was possible only because I followed carefully Rex's advice on how to set up a hand plane.
@theeddorian
@theeddorian 4 жыл бұрын
In Great Britain you might want to watch for Record planes. Some relatively recently made pieces are very good. I have a No. 5 with a Union style cap iron - threaded screw rather than a thumb lever. Really nice and here in the US, cheap.
@tonyminehan2323
@tonyminehan2323 4 жыл бұрын
theeddorian I'll keep a look out for them 👍 I recently bought a Silverline number 4 new, very good, very little work and a Faithfull number 4 and 5, new. Both were excellent. You can get Silverlines and Faithfulls very cheap on the bay, used of course. They don't have the "collector" tag which for me is fine as I'm learning woodwork having come from an engineering background.
@eggsngritstn
@eggsngritstn 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, the engineer joins the chat. I suspect the different patina on older chisels indicates slightly different metallurgy and heat treatment. I will guess the older chisels were forged from carbon steel and were probably tempered for a lengthier period of time at a lower temperature. This would have been more economical in a time where achieving greater annealing temperatures would have been more expensive. The black patina will be exposed martensite and some magnetite. The newer chisels will probably have additional alloy materials, perhaps magnesium or molybdenum, and would probably be tempered more quickly at greater temperatures. Your experience with the newer chisels would be explained by the different crystal structure of the metal and how that reacts when the oxidation process occurs. Magnetite will not increase in volume much from the raw iron, and is in fact preferentially selected as the oxidation layer when 'bluing' steel for that reason. On the other hand, with other metals in the mix the oxidation chemistry is not as easy to predict, and it may result in localized pockets of expansion due to corrosion. Again, I'm making an educated guess here.
@bentontool
@bentontool 6 ай бұрын
Chisels marked "Worth" were made by Peck, Stow & Wilcox for Bigelow & Dowse, a Boston hardware co, and are high quality.
@clovishound5756
@clovishound5756 4 жыл бұрын
I have had some success at pawn shops. They don't often have socket chisels, but I have found a few. They are usually buried in a plastic box of assorted hand tools, and you can frequently get them for a buck or two, although they usually are without handles. I enjoy making handles on the lathe, so that isn't an issue for me. It's good to look around the tool section at a pawn shop. You just never know what you will run across.
@markscott2615
@markscott2615 4 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you do a video on router planes, particularly the larger version. Do some more collaborations with James Wright
@maplobats
@maplobats 4 жыл бұрын
As a Canadian, I had to chuckle a bit when you said, "cold weather is coming" considering it was -25° in mid-October already.
@Smirky-gn1in
@Smirky-gn1in 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the Midwest or southern Canada
@markkoons7488
@markkoons7488 4 жыл бұрын
Tuning used tools makes them your own in a sense that only a long relationship with a new tool can accomplish. Two thirds of my hand tools are old and beloved rehabs. Those rare new purchases like bronze-bodied Lie-Nielsen planes with cherry handles are also "rehabilitated" in the sense of stripping the the lacquer (a protectant to preserve the "new" during retailing) from both wood and metal, and burnishing with a few drops of oil on 4/0 steel wool to allow the maroon of the cherry and warmth of aged bronze to develop. Like restored bargains they become more beautiful, feel better in the hand, and age with grace.
@rhys5567
@rhys5567 3 жыл бұрын
Aust still had a lot of old firmer and mortise chisels. I see them more than bevels. But thats in rural Australia.
@mariushegli
@mariushegli 4 жыл бұрын
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
@aurtisanminer2827
@aurtisanminer2827 4 жыл бұрын
I have an old Worth chisel. It has a rounded top side instead of flat and tapered. It was missing the handle and had been beaten by a metal hammer, but it wasnt too bad. I ground off the mushroomed portion pretty easily.
@theeddorian
@theeddorian 4 жыл бұрын
There are other old brands that are excellent quality if you can find them. I have two old Marples and Son chisels. One these my dad was given by my grandfather, who either was given, bought or stole it from someone else. My dad gave it to me. It is now well over 100 years old and is my favorite 3/4 inch chisel. The design is atypical for old Marples. The common forms are tanged. But this is socketed like the common modern forms. I found a half-inch mate on ebay for a decent price. It required essentially no restoration, except some work on the bevel that had somehow been heated until brittle. That required a little grinder work. As regards tools for restoration, a discussion of restoring braces and sharpening bits might be really interesting for many.
@454Casull
@454Casull 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, just wanted to say that the audio on your video is really enjoyable to listen to. Some videos have compression way up and it just gives me a headache.
@Jake88310
@Jake88310 4 жыл бұрын
Rex, enjoyed this video very much and would more like this.
@robertlunsford1350
@robertlunsford1350 4 жыл бұрын
I got a bucket of TH Whiterby chisels at a auction in a bucket full of rope. I paid 12 dollars for the bucket. I was a 5 gallon bucket half full of chisels. I love my CBN wheels for sharpening. They are on the expensive side but they pull heat away form the tool, they are super balanced and they are dead flat.
@BobbyKarnavas
@BobbyKarnavas 4 жыл бұрын
Rex, I would love if you made a video outlining the types of chisels and their uses. I am fairly new to hand tool woodworking and I want to get a small set of chisels that are versatile enough for simple projects, but honestly, I don't really know what I need. Thanks!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
I totally did that on this video. I promise.
@BobbyKarnavas
@BobbyKarnavas 4 жыл бұрын
@@RexKrueger Yeah, I'm a dummy. Thanks for the reply though!
@daveturnbull7221
@daveturnbull7221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a another great and informative video Rex.
@thomashverring9484
@thomashverring9484 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, Rex! This video is a masterpiece! So much excellent information! You blew my mind! On another note ... when in Europe it doesn't seem like socket chisels is really a thing (to the extent it is in the States). When I look at eBay, I don't find that many vintage (or otherwise) socket chisels. It will be very expensive to have them sent from overseas. I'll continue looking :)
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
If the European furniture makers are using tang-chisels, just get some old ones and don't look back!
@thomashverring9484
@thomashverring9484 4 жыл бұрын
@@RexKrueger Thanks so much for your reply. However, yesterday I found a German type of socket chisel, so they are out there! I want ALL OF THEM! ALL THE TOOLS! Sorry, got carried away :) I need to dig deeper, I think :)
@David-hm9ic
@David-hm9ic 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I got some chisels before you released this video. This is a good tutorial on brand names. Before I started woodworking I had a set of sub-$10 Harbor Freight chisels and started looking for better ones. One of the few things I recognized was Sheffield steel and ended up buying Marples (before Irwin bought the name) chisels because of the steel. I have not been disappointed with them but they cost a lot more than the prices you discussed. Some of my really good Ebay finds were Craftsman planes. The old ones were made by Millers Falls and Stanley but they don't command the prices of the name brand planes.
@amberluecke6644
@amberluecke6644 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been able to find several bit braces and hand planes at estate sales and consignment auctions. Waiting for the next ones to pick up some chisels and hand saws.
@CleaveMountaineering
@CleaveMountaineering 4 жыл бұрын
Good overview. I have a 1.25" TH Witherby, 6" long socket chisel, it came mushroomed on the socket. I was able to rescue the socket with careful filing and hammering, and made a handle for it. I just gave it a good workout on a timber frame chicken coop.
@douglashopkins8070
@douglashopkins8070 4 жыл бұрын
Nice overview. I am pleased to observe that most of my chisel collection are the exact socket chisels you recommend. My grandfather had good taste. I've had to make a few handles... without a lathe. Not very difficult though. My next chisel purchase is going to be a slick, mainly because I find them cool. I know I will rarely use it, still want one.
@jasonzvokel6317
@jasonzvokel6317 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and topic! Thanks Rex
@larrybriggi9898
@larrybriggi9898 4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video Rex. Picked up some good tips. Just finished restoring some old chisels and turning handles for them. Not sure if tang is easier to fit than socket though. Thank you.
@LoosiuFlying
@LoosiuFlying 4 жыл бұрын
Now the price of vintage chisels will go sky high - Rex video effect :). I do keep waiting for the t-shirt with the quote about not having some chisels and scrap wood. Cheers!
@jeremy89thom
@jeremy89thom 4 жыл бұрын
Really love your recommendations on tools. They're always at a fair and sometimes under price. Most other channels recommend $94 chisel and $174-$234 planers (they may last a lifetime, but it feels like a lifetime to get 😅)
@egglyph
@egglyph 4 жыл бұрын
It's a double edged sword, really. I wish I'd listened to those channels when I was just starting, because for my first year or two I was doing metalwork mostly. I'd be better off buying one tool premium class tool, rather going through tons of metal scraps I still paid for with my money and my time. And maybe I'd be a better woodworker today having started with great tools.
@jons2447
@jons2447 Жыл бұрын
@@egglyph Doubtful, because the man makes the tools, not the other way round.
@egbluesuede1220
@egbluesuede1220 3 жыл бұрын
super helpful video and relevant to current events. I learned a few lessons the hard way and appreciate your buying advice. Would love a similar one for back saws, or even a similar series on other standard hand tools. The cork sniffers do blur the lines and I love finding what I call "users" which are equally good tools that I plan to use the hell out of.
@mightress
@mightress 4 жыл бұрын
My best auction score so far: a box full of old wooden planes. Most of them just for decoration bit it had two stanley no4 planes in it. Winning price: 15 bucks.
@kherrick1
@kherrick1 11 ай бұрын
Craftsman chisels were/are plated, when cleaned up or polished you will reveal a copper "Strike" plate beneath the nickel or chrome plating.
@michaeltodd3042
@michaeltodd3042 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I started off with those mass produced Kobalt No 4 and block plane from Lowes and a set of Dewalt carpenter chisels. It definitely put me back about an hour or two to get the planes set up and several hours to get the chisels ready to go. It would be nice to see something with these types of tools in mind.
@timort2260
@timort2260 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly all types of tools would be also in this format. I buy almost all my tools used. Most of which is done locally but I've paid more because I needed a bigger hand plane paid $50 for a fore plane. Wasn't likely too see another one at the market for a while. So yeah any tools are good in my book. Kinda been thinking of chisels. So yeah might be checking out ebay a little later. Great info and video.
@adrianabshire
@adrianabshire 4 жыл бұрын
I got a whole set of Narex chisels and like them but need to get some heavier mortising chisels - thanks for the advice and I learned a lot (as always)! Could use an online plane buyers guide and maybe a handsaw buyers guide for both Japanese and Western style saws...
@NhyraVirakah2
@NhyraVirakah2 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips man! Been loving your videos so far. Been watching lots of yours while I sit on my ultra-low roman-inspired bench I made out of scraps. Keeping me entertained while I break a many sweats!
@TheRedhawke
@TheRedhawke 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a well made socket chisel. I continue to pick them up when I see them at garage sales or flea markets.
@allanhorne6067
@allanhorne6067 2 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that 'corner chisels' were for cutting the mortices in wheel hubs where the joints were square but could be tapered and 'dished' i.e. leaning in two planes as for a compound mortice.
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