The Development History of Early Hawker Aircraft - From the Duiker to the Harrier

[@RexsHangar]

F.A.Q Section Q: Do you take aircraft requests? A: I have a list of aircraft I plan to cover, but feel free to add to it with suggestions:) Q: Why do you use imperial measurements for some videos, and metric for others? A: I do this based on country of manufacture. Imperial measurements for Britain and the U.S, metric for the rest of the world, but I include text in my videos that convert it for both. Q: Will you include video footage in your videos, or just photos? A: Video footage is very expensive to licence, if I can find footage in the public domain I will try to use it, but a lot of it is hoarded by licencing studies (British Pathe, Periscope films etc). In the future I may be able to afford clips :) Q: Why do you sometimes feature images/screenshots from flight simulators? A: Sometimes there are not a lot of photos available for certain aircraft, so I substitute this with digital images that are as accurate as possible. Feel free to leave you questions below - I may not be able to answer all of them, but I will keep my eyes open :)

[@napalmholocaust9093]

I put a question in the regular comments. Technically it will appear "below", not sure if you meant in the pinned comment or not.

[@youdontneedtoknow6621]

This video was fantastic mate! My favourite company for aircraft is supermarine because I’m from Eastleigh. Do you think you could put them on a list for a video like this? Please/thanks

[@brendonbewersdorf986]

I love this long video format im excited to see more of them!! Also would you be willing to cover postwar use of the me262? I didn't know this but apparently avia built some in addition to their bf109 variants

[@bnox8058]

Thanks you for the 40 min of quality video I would love a vid about the me 262!

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

..... If you can get someone to create simulations of Subject Aircraft in Flight action, that would really add excitement and dimension. Not to be rushed into of course, the Animation could really add Life to the Historic Photos - which by all means are also necessary!

[@perrydowd9285]

This is a brilliant idea. We get a lot of vids concentrating on a single plane. This complements that perfectly. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@strikerorwell9232]

Not a "single plane". Hawker Tempest/Hurricane/Fury/Heart etc m etc.

[@tomarmstrong1281]

Sitting at home, recovering from a sore throat and cold I saw 'Rex's Hangar' and remembering an earlier posting, I pressed the play button. Thank you Mr Rex for an absolute first class presentation. You are to be complemented on your research and totally absorbing video.. The designers, builders, pilots of these wonderful old machines will all be long gone by now. It is to your credit that they come across as real life vibrant individuals with drive and ambition. I was able to stop feeling sorry for myself with the thought of their fortitude and drive to achieve milestone in our nation's aviation history.

[@dennismason3740]

Bloody fantastic. These early Hawkers have, up to now, received very little love in YT. Every model comes closer and closer to you-know-what. Thank you.

[@Hiznogood]

Oh, a 40 minutes long video? We’re truly blessed! Thanks Rex!

[@lesliereissner4711]

This was a very interesting video that clearly took considerable research and the effort is appreciated. I love the names of British warplanes: Duiker, Hornbill, Hedgehog, Partridge--compared to the fearsome names given to Royal Navy ships, the airplane manufacuters were not striking terror into anyone. Hawker was to make good, however, with the Fury, Hurricane, Typhoon, Tempest, etc, although the Hoopoe and Tomtit are still to come! And the scale of that Horsley is surprising--it is so well-proportioned that the people pictured with it look like photoshopped midgets.

[@jontisdall6248]

Really enjoyed the longer format. Brilliantly researched and very well presented. Thank you.

[@Farweasel]

Interesting coverage of Hawker its true. Jeezuss there were a *lot* of interuptions for spam 'though.

[@kellybreen5526]

This was a great video. I knew from a Chaz Bower book purchased 40 years ago that the Horsley was big but so well proportioned that it looked smaller than it was. 27 minutes in I was reminded of that fact, then you mentioned it a minute later. I think you are on to something here. 1920-1934 aircraft had extremely short service lives. Now once selected, a design will serve 40 years or more. That is like a Sopwith Camel being front line till the mid 60s. Mind boggling really.

[@jjohnsonTX]

Excellent. You move right along, covering essential details, strengths & weaknesses, disposition, then move on. Keep it up. You're doing fine.

[@Sacto1654]

The best thing about Hawker: the arrival of one Sydney Camm, a plane designer that should be ranked up there with Jack Northrop and Clarance “Kelly” Johnson.

[@timgosling6189]

Ah, the joy of someone on KZbin having done actual research! Nice to see the first appearance of the 'Camm Tail' on the Heron (not to be confused with the 'Kamm tail' seen on sports cars). That distinctive leading edge remained evident through Fury, Hart, Hind, Hurricane, Fury (again), Hunter and even Kestrel and Harrier (again).

[@GARDENER42]

Excellent presentation. Looking forward to the future ones in a similar vein.

[@Dr_Jebus]

Love this new format. Really interesting learning about the teething problems of these famous companies

[@BrassLock]

I enjoyed your comprehensive description of the aircraft against the backdrop of the Air Ministry Specifications. The sequence of different models clearly illustrates the design struggles that Hawkers faced during those years with superb photographs.

[@stevegrace2134]

I lived in Chessington Surrey for a few years and always used to walk past a small Church and graveyard on my way to the local shops. I always wondered about a large headstone dedicated to Mr Hawker there. Now I know who he was. Thankyou so much.

[@fenman1954]

A well researched and thoughtful video on a impressive list of prototypes.

[@Farweasel]

One glaring deficit: Omited to mention *Sopwith was 'fitted up' completely unjustifiably for wholly political reasons with the unfounded claim for Excess War Profits* which collapsed the company. It was as unjustified as it was filthy and underhanded ~ as was later widely recognised after the damage was done. Adding to the irony ~ Had it not been for Sopwith the balance of the War could well have been tipped in the Kaiser's favour. Politicians - Then and now eh?

[@m.i.andersen8167]

I do not think your thorough, serious and very interesting videos can get too long :) Thank you!

[@deltavee2]

Full marks all around, Rex! This format strings together a number of aircraft that would otherwise just be names of models produced by the manufacturer. Your usual thorough research and the plethora of period photos make the entire longer format a real pleasure to watch, with much pausing and eyeing of various designs on the part of this viewer. I am truly looking forward to the others of this ilk. You are building a go-to library for future generations of aircraft enthusiasts and you have every right to be proud of your work. Thank you from E. Ontario.

[@flemmingaaberg4457]

I just can't conceive how much time, effort and research you put into these videos - totally in awe. Love all your videos and this one dealing with a sweep across a manufacturer was a great idea too.

[@rob5944]

Thanks for your help in the war Sopwith, here's a massive bill.

[@Aengus42]

Ooh! A 40 min Rex video! Right! Where's some nibbles, i think a large drink might be in order, polish my computer glasses... 😎🥃🥜 Thanks Rex! I really enjoy your videos so this is a perfect midnight treat 😃☮️ Edit: You could see the distinctive Hawker nose develop plane by plane. That was never 40 minutes! Your announcement that "this concludes..." was a surprise. It felt like we were, maybe, 20 minutes in at that point. The photographic research was excellent! You must've spent many late nights digging out the pictures for this. Thanks Greg. And you're right! If there wasn't s person in shot for scale that bomber looked like a small biplane fighter. But it was huge! Government: You must carry 4 times the payload. Hawker: Ta-daaa! It's 4 times bigger! Sorted. Fancy s pint lads?

[@jakeb6703]

Wonderful, entering the realm of channels that produce short documentaries that I drop everything to watch, Greg, drach, Ed Nash ect

[@mkendallpk4321]

A truly great job of covering of Hawker from its beginnings into the 1930s. Can not wait for the next vid to drop!

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

I found it even more interesting and fascinating that Hawker, by forced Government meddling, was in essence... The Iconic Sopwith Aircraft company!! And nearly by accident, created a legendry Design Team.

[@Pete-tq6in]

One aspect of the Horsley's history that I think deserved a mention was its brief career as a long range record setter, it once even held the world record for the longest flight without refuelling, set on May 20th, 1927, when one flew from RAF Cranwell to the Persian Gulf where it ditched. It held that record for less than a day as Charles Lindbergh managed to land in Paris a few hours later, after flying non-stop from New York.

[@peterwright4647]

I’ve always loved the Hawker Hart, Hind and Demons. Thanks for the interesting and informative video.

[@TheWhoamaters]

Hawker is easily my favourite manufacturer

[@SKILLED521]

Casting vote for future long videos. Fewer loose ends and your pacing keeps information moving along nicely. Also, as a reference tool, keeps the need for repetition down. As always, I appreciate this channel. Keep 'Em Flying, Ace!

[@IAMGUAMCPA]

Your commentaries are the best and I am a total aviation history buff. Keep up the awesome work.

[@ronjon7942]

I was wondering how you were going to fit the 'Harrier' into this. :). Btw, I really enjoy this longer format, nice work. Rex, your channel is a treasure trove of information during these early periods of development. As an American, I've always found it difficult to wrap my head around the seemingly infinite variety of European technologies of these periods, so I appreciate landing on your channel. I've a new-found interest into the aircraft of this time frame and you're a tremendous resource to me to just get into it and start learning. Thank you.

[@danweyant707]

One thing that still astonishes me is that these designs of the mid-20s, advanced as they are- are only 20 after Kittyhawk.

[@danweyant707]

I keep checking the photos to see when adjustable props appear.

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

@eggmanwi there's the An-2 with its constant speed propeller.

[@martijn9568]

@eggmanwi I know that the Soviet I-15 and Curtiss P-6 Hawk had ground adjustable propellers. I believe the FIAT CR.42 Falco had a variable pitch propeller.

[@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X]

Perhaps the aircraft manufacturer with the best aircraft names. I love you to do more of these videos, they are a great way to understand a manufacturer's design philosophies.

[@jamesbugbee6812]

The Martlesham people displayed humour on occasion - my favorite was in reference 2 N a/c rich in flaws, including difficulty of pilot access: Something like 'it would have been better if access were impossible'

[@GREGLUCAS-u4f]

I thoroughly enjoyed this historic trip with you The tea was also good, no matter it was your historical video that made the whole story enjoyable.Keep up the great work Thanks,Greg in Canada.

[@thestormofwar]

Thank you for this. Hawker planes always had a certain elegance about 'em for their time.

[@flyingpictures1100]

Just loved it, amazing aircraft . Excellent narration and footage thank you.

[@iancarr8682]

Impressive episode on Hawkers, thanks Rex, and very informative. Can see a lot of research has gone into this.

[@randomnickify]

Great episode, I'll gladly watch history of all aircraft producers, keep up the good work 👍

[@stephenrickstrew7237]

Thanks for this full length dive into one of the great aircraft makers of all time …. I Hope you get a Hanger of your own to house all the research books and studio gear necessary to keep on growing your excellent channel…! Cheers ..!

[@facelikedog]

This is outstanding research. Well done Sir.

[@Zorglub1966]

8:06 "the exposed valve gear particularly vulnerable to icing up" I didn't know this phenomenon (in general, not for this very plane), I thought an engine generated enough heat to avoid it

[@Katy_Jones]

But remember it's sticking out into the airflow, windchill even at low windspeeds can be a right bugger.

[@Zorglub1966]

@@Katy_Jones Thank you, but i'm afraid i don't have the knowledge to understand your answer 🙂

[@stevenborham1584]

My two cents here... The Bernoulli effect of the fuel and air rushing through the intake valve would rapidly remove heat from the valve (and surrounding environment), valve stem, and most likely the valve gear. The air flowing past these exposed (remember they are exposed not covered on the Jupiter engine) valve components could very well form ice in them which interferes with the movement, and probably increases corrosion of the surfaces forming ice. If you look at the cylinder head fin design of late WWII era radials you will see almost no cooling fins on the intake valve side. This feature is mostly an indirect result of the exhaust valves running very hot, however this could also be an attempt to keep the cylinder head at a nominal temperature between the icy cold intake ports and the glowing hot exhaust valve stems needing to dump heat rapidly. Sorry if this reply is a little over-done 🧐

[@Zorglub1966]

@@stevenborham1584 thank you.

[@nickhimaras9331]

Unflinchingly British and brilliantly presented!

[@SOSUS86]

This format was very good considering the subject matter. I would like to see more of this type.

[@jon-paulfilkins7820]

As a Long term Resident of Kingston Upon Thames, nice to see the local company getting some online coverage. The Old/original Factory was in my youth, a technical/engineering department of the local university. Most of the site is now gone, a quasi gated community! Yet the office end remains (Flats). There is also a testing building that is now home to many NGO's including those involved in IT training and supplying refurbed computers. Vickers had an aircraft factory down the road at Weybridge do not surprised at the the Vickers parts bin raiding!

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

Whenever I hear of the Vickers machinegun I get images of the militant wing of the Church of England.

[@toboldlygosmodelworks1973]

ah those where the days, reading the hawker's book of heroic failures- at Dunsfold (home of the Harrier & Hawk) ;)

[@dubyacwh7978]

Thank you very much I really did enjoy the longer format not to mention the history of Hawker is quite intriguing

[@RichardGoth]

Really fantastic work... Love the effort and detail you have put into this!

[@alexeisavrasov888]

Love the channel; the longer form is great. Thanks

[@Tordogor]

The BESTest YT channel dealing with Interwar aircraft. I hope you will deal sometimes with also Interwar French, and Spanish Civil War planes.

[@garycook2355]

The longer format only adds to it's flavor. As usual you have produced a very fine product.

[@alm5992]

I never knew there was another plane called the "Harrier" before the VTOL jet. Very interesting!

[@stephenremington8448]

De Havilland had at least two pairs, two different Comets and two different Tiger Moths. The other Tiger Moth was a monoplane racer.

[@martijn9568]

Wait till you hear about the original Corsair, Globemaster or Hawk.

[@jimskelton8197]

Great video mate, well researched and a fantastic concept. Well done.

[@gilesknight]

I've walked by the Cygnet many times at Cosford without giving too much thought to it. Such a pretty little plain.

[@Zorglub1966]

40 minutes!!!! How enjoyable!!!👍👍👍👍

[@hadial-saadoon2114]

I always wondered how Sidney Camm was introduced to Hawker. A visionary of aviation advancement. I look forward to your next installment.

[@dyerwulf5459]

I wasn't sure how I was going to do with the long format. It was great, please keep doing them. Also please keeping making the shorts as well.

[@lornespry]

Rex: Great stuff ... thanks! I hope that someday you will cover that iconic Hawker family: Hart, Demon, Nimrod, Audax, Fury - radial and RR Kestrel variants. I am looking forward to viewing your other tantalizing presentations.

[@neves5083]

Finally long videos

[@nomadpi1]

Thank you. Informative and pertinent data well presented. Your format is journalistically historic and interesting. Your Rex's Hangar series is a service to the public.

[@vladdrakul7851]

You got a new subscriber! Great stuff! I love the development story here. It is more than just about one companies' history but about the fascinating (to me anyway) development of mid war planes. WW I is also fascinating as well, Bleriot, Focker, Sopwith etc while I am a little burned out on the all too discussed WW II stuff and modern planes just do not interest me very much at all, despite my past with them. Ex RAF Flight Sgt! *Could you please finish your WW I airplane series that ended with early 1917,* I can hardly wait! Thank you.

[@jjmcrosbie]

What an interesting Video! So much new material. No mention of Fred Sigrist at the beginning however. FS went on to manufacture a few, very light sport planes.

[@FutureBoyWonder]

Infinitely prefer long form videos though i understand it can be a lot more difficult so i do appreciate your work

[@paulmchugh8695]

Thanks u can see the fury arriving at the end looking forward to next one !

[@nickmoloney9820]

Absolutely brilliant video really great to see the evolution of design through the lens of a single manufacturer, I really enjoyed watching this and thanks a million for a brilliant production.

[@gswombat]

Nice longitudinal study. How about picking a year and doing comparisons of A/C design in that year?

[@perrydowd9285]

That's an excellent idea. It will give the viewer a sense of the moment. 👍👍👍👍

[@gswombat]

@@perrydowd9285 Just what we do in history

[@jollyjohnthepirate3168]

Outstanding content. Thank you for your excellent research.

[@richardsawyer5428]

This format is really good and you started off with my favourite aircraft company.

[@michaeldy3157]

Soo cool .this is what the history channel used to do.

[@rinkadink66]

it must have been so exciting to be involved with aeroplane development during the 20's & 30's.. cheers for the video 🍻

[@stevetournay6103]

Impressed with the Horsley's size. It looks smaller, until the photo appears with the man standing under the nose. That prop must have been gigantic...

[@rc-fannl7364]

A bit long perhaps, but giving a brilliant insight in how Hawker was doing before they came up with their famous WW2 designs, so I enjoyed watching this

[@washingtonradio]

Liked the format and emphasis on more obscure aircraft and prototypes.

[@jayg1438]

Love industry videos and tech development and application videos

[@OldinMariner]

thanks for the great rundown on the Hawker line of aircraft, I did notice something interesting to me, that most of these aircraft have clockwise rotating props. with the Cygnet showing one clockwise and one counter-clockwise. Most aircraft I have noticed have counter-clockwise rotation in US manufacturing.

[@AaronStuartHall]

This is exactly the content I want.

[@jonsouth1545]

Probably my favorite video of yours really looking forward the the sequel.

[@pjweds]

Excellent video, I thought I knew a bit about Hawkers aircraft, it appears I know nothing at all.. Keep up the good work..

[@tnuag01]

I second the Supermarine suggestion, also how about Saunders Roe, Vickers, Boulton & Paul,, and possibly the great airships. Then there was de Havilland and DHC. The Hawker video was excellent, and the Putnam 3-views are very useful.

[@davidrobinson4553]

A great format, more like this please Rex 👍👍

[@bigblue6917]

Well I have to say that was very informative and shows what it was like at a time when things were changing so much. I am looking forward to future videos.

[@strayling1]

Love the new format. You're becoming the Drachinifel of the skies.

[@buonafortuna8928]

You got me - I thought we were going to near present. Very interesting.

[@chrisbailey4254]

Easy to see outlines of the Hurricane in the earlier offerings.

[@string-bag]

Superb video, many thanks.

[@erikhesjedal3569]

Nice one Rex! Next we need one on the Brabazon committee

[@markignatiev7194]

Great format, I'm looking forward to the next installment!

[@stashyjon]

Great stuff. Looking forward to possible Bristol and Gloucester episode

[@birlyballop4704]

Putnam's books are excellent - Shorts seen in your "studio" shot. Well done for assembling these pics of obscure aero. Ta.

[@wingmanjim6]

Another superb presentation - thank you !

[@paulmillard1130]

I love history especially like this. De Havilland Aircraft soon please.

[@Alpha_blossom]

I can’t wait for more of these

[@TheIhredpower]

Splendid presentation!

[@vthegoose]

Can’t wait for the next installment of listening to Rex talk about Hawker aircraft for 40 minutes! :D

[@LeonAust]

Hawker was Aussie! ..............holy shit I didn't know that and evolved from Sopwith. Well done Rex as I am finding an interest in pre WW2 British aircraft industry and the embryos of WW2 aircraft.

[@johnevans7261]

First-class history, well done.

[@arno-luyendijk4798]

What I consider most striking is the shape of the early Harrier: despite it having a radial engine, the streamling of Hawkers designs has developed so well that it apparently took some minor modifications to make the Fury out of it. Never seen such a streamlined radial engined fighter before, interesting.

[@barryfowler954]

Another great video 👍, Loved the history, and you clearly did your research, (as a very, very distant relative of Harry 😁.). Just an FYI, theres a flying Hawker Cignet Registered G-EBJI at the Shuttleworth Collection based at Old Warden Airfield near Biggleswade, England.

[@MyBlueZed]

This is a superb channel. Congratulations to you for your meticulous research and enjoyable presentation style. ❤️

[@RobertJackman]

Horsley Towers was owned by Tom Sopwith. It is now a wedding venue and a hotel. I once visited Horsley and there was a model of the Hawker Horsley in a case.

[@adamhughes2694]

Great video. Loved all the info on the short lived planes and people involved!