Rey Mysterio - When Juventud Guerrera & Psicosis Went to WWE

[@TitleMatchWrestling]

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[@texazsouth]

Psicosis/Mysterio ecw matches were insanely good

[@lacydoe]

that 4 way tag with Psicosis, la parka vs ray and Juventud

[@magnusgold4010]

Real old school, legendary luchadores, and yeah La Parka outfit was so L.W.O for life

[@aaronlegresley9495]

@@lacydoe wcw

[@Dakatari]

Rey and Juvi put on some spectacular matches in WCW

[@thelonewolf7287]

So much respect for this guy. Done a lot for all the companies he has worked for and getting back into shape. Mad respect for him

[@palletbitch]

TheLone Wolf yep and being 5' nothing 100 and nothing and doing shit that most people can't do

[@toosweet6046]

@ Sean B Rudy Rudy Rudy !!!

[@kevinfightsbears]

Sad that juvi was only there for 6 months, and psychosis was gone by mid summer, super crazy was the only one that lasted the longest with the company

[@joeski1073]

Mr.kevin not home Supercrazy was so dope! The fans loved him too. They chanted numbers in Spanish when he hit opponents in the corner

[@josecano9210]

Joseph Ski super crazy was extremely over, Juvi deserved to get fired bc of his attitude and in Mexico a few years later they eventually beat the shit out of him for his attitude and Psicosis got caught up in personal problems outside of WWE

[@joeski1073]

@@josecano9210 I always wondered what happened to Psychosis

[@josecano9210]

Joseph Ski he’s still around he’s still over in Mexico as Nicho el Millonario but he still wrestles in the states as Psicosis

[@superdemonboy]

Was it really 6 months?? It felt like he was in for 3 weeks, tops...

[@LukeMSmith-ou8gh]

You could tell that Psicosis definitely lost a few steps in terms of ring performance by the time he got to WWE. Juvi still had it though, and could've had a fairly decent run in WWE if he wasn't such a pain in the ass to work with backstage.

[@n.l.vnightowl7608]

Psicosis has had real bad injuries to bother his knees do to extreme matches he has had but he still tried his best

[@SYMShutYoMouth]

They were given a racist gimmick. No shit they’d be difficult to work with.

[@TheRealIconG]

@@SYMShutYoMouth Well from what I know Psicosis and Super Crazy werr fine, it was Juvi. He apparently got his ass beat cuz of how much of a dick he was

[@ChiTownXpress]

If I recall Juvi had backstage heat even in his days in WCW.

[@TheRealIconG]

@@ChiTownXpress Yeah if I remember correctly it's cuz he used to think he was bigger than he actually was. Thought he was a mega star when he's never been that

[@Squeakypickles619]

No mention of supercrazy? He was 1000%

[@josecano9210]

He was friends with Juvi and Psicosis they were in Mexico, Japan, ECW and WCW together. Super Crazy wasn’t apart of that clique he was Mexico then ECW

[@walterclark3198]

Rey Mysterio jr in ecw was really good and that was the first time i saw him wrestle.

[@ElFamosoArt]

Saw psicosis last night in a small venue and he could barely run, kinda sucked how times flies

[@TheChibiGingi]

Might get some heat for saying this, but here are the factors in why Rey Jr. succeeded in the WWE but Juvi and Psicosis didn't. 1) Oscar Gutierrez is an approachable person who makes a point to respect everyone in the locker room and in the ring, and openly didn't get involved in backstage politics. Backstage, Juvi was a bit of a prick and pricks tend to rub people the wrong way. Not sure about Psicosis' backstage antics but he seemed pretty passive, which can really hurt you if you don't have the kind of support that Rey had established. 2) Having gained the respect from the likes of Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Scott Steiner (yes, you read that correctly), all who went to the WWE, they were consistent in suggesting to the McMahons to get Rey over, even before they bought WCW. Having so many people requesting/suggesting one person to come over says a LOT, even though Vince thought little of his size. 3) Once there, there were several WWE wrestlers who were already lining up to wrestle with him, Kurt Angle being one of the first in line. The Rock even admitted to watching WCW, just for Rey Mysterio jr and the cruiserweight division. Not sure if Juvi and Psicosis got that kind of reception, but they really should've. 4) By the time they signed up Juvi and Psicosis, Rey was moving on towards the heavyweight scene and thus, the opportunity to utilize them into the CW division had sailed without them. I love Rey. He's my absolute favorite, and will always be. But the problem lied in the fact that, from the moment he arrived in the WWE, he was already wrestling outside of the Cruiserweight division and put into tag team events. I don't even think he did his official CW run until, what, after his first time coming back from an injury? You bring a guy in who, along with Juvi, Psicosis, Malenko, Guerrero, revolutionized an entire division... and then don't UTILIZE him in that division, then I'm going to consider that a failure on the WWE's part, not so much on Rey, Juvi, and Psicosis. THe WWE had a rockin' division, but they never truly utilized it, even when Rey was on the scene, and sadly, Juvi and Psicosis really suffered for it.

[@mikejackson2549]

ChibiGingi I could not agree more!!! I think that it would have been best for Juvi and Psicosis to enter the WWE around the same time that Rey did.

[@tehfawkinman]

ChibiGingi That's a pretty good analysis.

[@josuesainz227]

I met him, he is an overall nice man; I've seen him going out of his way to pose in pics with kids in the ring.

[@PChamileon97]

now why would you get heat for speaking the facts?

[@youngcity4241]

Rey was just better point blank period

[@jeyrascall2062]

I didnt even realise how racist the gimmick was till I got older. I'm in Toronto so i wasnt putting that together I was just happy these guys were in the WWE.

[@mycreationz1652]

Rey the company boy he know why they didn’t get pushed don’t play stupid

[@Mirko-wm7bo]

Why?

[@Imhim336.]

Well Rey told them don’t do the Mexicools gimmick but they didn’t listen to him they let WWE use them up for racial comedy then once they dried them out they let them go

[@jacobsmith4821]

Wwf screwed them over as well as super crazy

[@omarperez9358]

0:41 I'd say yeah maybe because they both lost their Masks,But yeah and I'd say it's both,about Juventud guerrera because Juvi was both He lost his mask,but yeah he still got it He just had a bad attitude,and Psicosis I'd say because I heard that Psicosis had a knee injury probably,but Psicosis he still got it

[@ioio8687]

Juvie was using too much drugs and was a punk and Psicosis just didnt had the mic skills. Mysterio is a very rare talent that was able to do both Mexican and US style wrestling. Notice how much talent WWE had brought from Mexico and have been unable to replicate Mysterio or Eddie.

[@84slaughter]

I Don't Remember Rey Jr. Ever Cutting A Great Promo, What Are You Talking About?

[@ioio8687]

@@84slaughter Im talking about him heading pay per views still in 2021. He is one of WWE most beloved characters so the more flaws you point out, the more you make my point.

[@trenellsmith9057]

I personally met Juvi a few months back after his AEW stint. Juvi is way more humble now, and he did elaborate on his past. He also did mention the bilingual factor. Rey Misterio Jr grew up in San Diego California went to Tijuana and other parts of Mexico for training so he was very marketable on the US, Mexico and Beyond. Plus the popularity of Rey Misterio Sr was a bonus when he was up and coming. The family rivials The Guerras, Fuerza and at that time Hijo De Fuerza Guerra, had big time shows and rivalries in Mexico, Japan ect. It was when Hijo wanted to do more shows outside of Mexico to promote the family name, his own father blackballed him, he all of a sudden stopped being booked, that would make a person have a chip on their shoulder with other luchadors and people a like. So when ECW wanted to bring a counter at to Rey Misterio Jr, they went for Hijo De Fuerza Guerra. But being the fall out, he started going by "Youth Warrior" aka Juventude Guerra as a play on the name Fuerza Guerra "Strength Warrior" ECW and WCW knew how to market Rey Misterio Jr and Juventude, The forbidden door was open for a long time in those programs. ECW and WCW model was all out for everybody. Now when you get to something like WWE, which quite frankly never really catered toward the lightweight, cruiserweight wrestlers. They only tried to go after big names and then try to incorporate them in their larger size. That's why even Ultimo Dragon, Justin Thunder Liger, Octagon Cito, ect never really made an impact like now Rey Mysterio. Who because of having worked in the forbidden door for a long time got more exposure because WWE only wanted to utilize him and not anybody else. Which was good for him, but bad for other luchadors that tried to come to WWE, even till this day. Rey is the only one left. So giving this, do you really kinda blame Juvi for kinda being a prick kinda, not saying it's right. But imagine kind of being told that you're not better than Rey Mysterio when in fact you're in terms of the art of being a luchador on an equal playing field with him.

[@San-li9ml]

@@trenellsmith9057 Ouch, educational though never knew this stuff, thanks for the facts bro.

[@trenellsmith9057]

@@San-li9ml Anytime, Juvi is one of my favorite luchadors of all time. And I feel like the industry has pushed him to the side in favor of others. Juvi practically was that guy in WCW, heck he use to always get opening matches on Thunder and had PPV matches. He's a huge draw, as AEW even saw during his appearance. But even they said no in favor of wanting a "Rey Mysterio"

[@davisjohnson7691]

Juvis career is a huge “what if”. He had it, he just got way too big for his britches way too fast

[@TuleeMaster]

Wonder if he wears the mask in his off time.

[@BossChronicles]

They misused them wwe is stereotypical and racist They had them come out in fucking lawnmowers ridiculous

[@juicestyle16]

WWE wasted both of them. Juventud guerrera was great when it came to promo's. He could have become a world champion in wwe.

[@Bsfnelz20]

Tyrann Pettaway sike lol

[@OscarRodriguez-jx6fl]

I agree, too bad WWE is not interested in main eventing you if your 5'5" & only 165 lbs lmfao

[@LonelyKoopa]

But remember how they treated mystrerio when he won that title

[@josecano9210]

Yes but he was a pain in the ass backstage

[@jonathanturbide2232]

LMAOOOOO what!? World champ!? When Juventud was signed they had guys like Taker, Batista, Edge, Orton, Cena, Eddie, Angle, Jericho, Booker, and on and on and on....and out of all these guys, Juvi should have been the World champ? The same Juvi who stole all his promo shtick from the Rock? The same Juvi who acted like an entitled prima donna and rubbed people the wrong way? The same Juvi who was well past his prime and not the same guy he was in 1998? The same Juvi who didn't have 1/10 of Rey's charisma? That Juvi? That's among the most ridiculous comments ever written on KZbin, no offense but wow that's bad. Seems like every mark is expecting a bunch of likes when they say " this or that guy should have been given a push or a championship " or " this or that guy is underrated " so I get what you're trying to do but man, you really went overboard there. Absolute nonsense.

[@viktor-rp7xl]

Mexicools have some of the better matches in wwe

[@toosweet6046]

This guy shouldn’t have that mask he sold out at WCW

[@zartan215]

Rey is lying! He knows exactly what happened with Juvi and Psicosis!

[@kevins4222]

Meth? Lol

[@Mirko-wm7bo]

What happened

[@cruzzreyes3744]

Why did juventud leave

[@simplethings749]

He didn’t. He got fired after he botched a 450 splash onto Paul Landon’s face.

[@TheNewFNShow]

I don't think it helped them to be stuck with that stupid ass lawn mowers gimmick.

[@AwelAceR]

They were awesome as a tag team

[@slobodanvukasin1658]

justice for targeted individuals

[@luistownmassacre]

Juvi had a bad attitude. Psicosis almost ran over some pregnant woman if i remember correctly.

[@carlosspears5793]

State your source ass whole

[@martinalfaro1317]

Lmao

[@blacquesjacques7239]

ECW was a circus . Not something you can see every week and not get sick of it .

[@travisw3131]

so that goes the attitude era too? because that's where wwe got that from.

[@dvc6416]

Blacques Jacques u a jabroni

[@superdemonboy]

You shitting us? We couldn't get enough of it!

[@christiancharles309]

ECW was better than current wwe

[@christiancharles309]

wwe raw and smackdown suck!