“You’re not deliberately cold, you’re inherently cold.” I remember when everyone hated him for that, but he was 100% right from the very beginning.
@alexandran60093 жыл бұрын
Exactly. She has shown no remorse towards the victims it's all me me me poor me. Even if she had nothing to do with anything (which I don't believe) her actions makae her look like a cold and non compassionate person.
@katiekuchen96943 жыл бұрын
100% ! I loved him for that comment! He had her sussed from the jump
@admusik993 жыл бұрын
That part!! 🤭👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@TarasTarot3 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@hard-truthsbetter-than-swe65433 жыл бұрын
i had the wisdom to know he was spot on then with it.
@jamilah19383 жыл бұрын
I can appreciate the way PK articulates his doubts in the validity of Erikas stories.
@melissavilane74993 жыл бұрын
No no no, not the brain. Do the f***ing ankle. I love that line. PK is hilarious
@MsAlexM8883 жыл бұрын
I hollered!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@PecanBaby...3 жыл бұрын
PK is right about Erika being a cold woman from the very start and now she is even involving her son who's a cop, not acting like a protective mother there. I'm just surprised how seriously some of these ladies are pretending to believe the bs Erika keeps telling them. I mean let's face it there is a few of the cast members including PK with shady pasts going on themselves. What Erika and Tom have done though tops them all in my humble opinion with their ridiculous made up lies, both of them are acting like cold-hearted, entitled, greedy and totally shameless and I hope that justice is served to them both because they only care about themselves not their victims it's been going on for years not just after this so called accident Erika keeps trying to convince everybody about.
@karensuepohlmeier20353 жыл бұрын
OMG, I was screaming with laughter!! Rolmfao!
@1963zinnia3 жыл бұрын
@@PecanBaby... I don't understand what he want to express. Can you clarify or explain please.
@PecanBaby...3 жыл бұрын
@@1963zinnia I don't understand this question please clarify.
@LilyGentile3 жыл бұрын
PK read Erika like damn book. As annoying as Dorit is, I thoroughly enjoy PK
@tropicaoptica3 жыл бұрын
I don't get why people hate on Dorit? I like her and PK... they are a great couple.
@CarlyGayJepsen3 жыл бұрын
@@tropicaoptica actually a lot of fans started liking in the beginning of the season when she called out kyle for her bs and stood up for herself but then she went back to clownery and let erika’s shit slide and tried to make Garcelle a villain and that backfired real bad
@headkandywhore2 жыл бұрын
Scammer recognizes scammer 🙂
@Yiyang11302 жыл бұрын
@@tropicaoptica Dorit speaks with a fake British accent and doesn’t have a storyline and is redundant to the show
@EL-fd4fk Жыл бұрын
@@Yiyang1130 Dorit has been with PK for many years, and then you unconsciously start speaking the same way and pick up the accent. I know that from myself when I moved from one end of the country to the other where they spoke with a different accent. I like Dorit she has more class and style than Kyle, Erika and fish mouth. 🇩🇰 🇩🇰 🇩🇰 🇩🇰 🇩🇰 🇩🇰
@RobRomeo733 жыл бұрын
PK’s bluntness and sense of humor is so british it kills me 😂
@melaninrogue40193 жыл бұрын
No fr 😂😂😂
@amberkelly31873 жыл бұрын
I know. I feel bad for these people that imagine Brits are liked Hugh Grant characters.
@stardustring3 жыл бұрын
The british are hilarious.
@hollyberry47493 жыл бұрын
I’m Scottish and brought up to be blunt. 😁
@Ozzyjo3 жыл бұрын
@@shawk2832 I am
@kittycattt933 жыл бұрын
When has Erika ACTUALLY said she is sorry for the victims???
@1sTEfFaniE13 жыл бұрын
Only once when she was called out by Garcelle
@CreativeFoodSavingHacks3 жыл бұрын
She hasn't until prompted by Garcelle.. Only then she chimed in and said "yes its sad for the victims" but the words weren't hers
@ashleyrosa60293 жыл бұрын
That’s because she isn’t sorry about the victims. She’s upset the house of cards fell, she’s upset this huge wealthy life she had is gone, she’s upset that the gravy train stoped. She gives a vibe of “I didn’t steal the money so it’s not my fault I spent it and I’m not sorry that I did”. In her mind, the only victim that matters here is her.
@pinky-ud1rt3 жыл бұрын
She has'nt lool shes just selfish like her husband
@motherofthreeb63373 жыл бұрын
@@1sTEfFaniE1 ...and not really.....
@kittycattt933 жыл бұрын
Kyle should be called out for her messy behaviour this season, she has agreed with every point Sutton, Garcelle and now PK has made but won't say Sh*t to Erika's face and in fact THREW Sutton under the bus at Kathy's dinner 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@memorydocumentation59423 жыл бұрын
she wasn’t honest about her meeting with dorit and the husbands so why didn’t you tell Erika??
@ashleyacklin28473 жыл бұрын
Kyle is being 2 faced
@briw54483 жыл бұрын
typical Kyle...when they were at dinner and her husband said something about Erika it looks like she kicks him under the table. She did that uncomfortable look she does when she doesn't want herself or those around her to be "implicated" but she looked like she was happily letting PK and Dorit speak about Erika. But when think about it...Kyle has truly learned how to make "it" (whatever it is) work for her. She portrays herself more the victim than really. And this "be honest" talk...a joke!
@BLXYDE3 жыл бұрын
thats the way kyles been since season 1
@pamelalee91893 жыл бұрын
Pot stirrer
@charleszegzdryn19633 жыл бұрын
😅The guys are being honest about what they're seeing and hearing, while their wives are defending and ignoring blatant lies and bull...
@marjorielutomia98653 жыл бұрын
They are bringing up Ericka's topic pretending to believe her.they just want the husband's to say it 🤣
@krystingrant62923 жыл бұрын
Yup
@donnawanna36803 жыл бұрын
@@marjorielutomia9865 💯
@user-wr7rr3fx7v3 жыл бұрын
I from the Netherlands and here we dont watch housewives. But what did erika do to to her ex tom? Why they divorce? Why is erika so mean? What happend? Can you tell me please?
@donnawanna36803 жыл бұрын
@@user-wr7rr3fx7v she divorced her husband who stole millions of dollars from victims. She spent the money like it was water $40,000 a month on hair and makeup ...while he husbands victims go without... She doesn't acknowledge the victims. Now her husband is in a home and she's complaining that his family is not taking care of him.. she's his wife she should take care of him. The money ran out and so did erika
@funinthekitchen8443 жыл бұрын
"She should call her husband, she doesn't see him that often.." 🤣😅 PK saw right through Erika from the beginning with the panty-gate
@maryc5302 жыл бұрын
What did he see?
@Lex-rc1gr3 жыл бұрын
PK is the most intelligent husband on the show, very articulate
@R1Neey1232 жыл бұрын
Reason why Erika still hates him to this day and wants their divorce
@islabee94 Жыл бұрын
100% agree. He's quick as a whip. Loved him and LVPs banter
@Anoppinion Жыл бұрын
A joy to Watch!
@tootsx8675 Жыл бұрын
PK is just as sneaky as Erika and her husband is.
@Daina-k7e16 күн бұрын
He’s a creep!
@sxyngel3 жыл бұрын
"Not the brain, do the fkn ankle"..funniest quote the entire season. laughed so hard i cried.
@MsLiberty1012 жыл бұрын
I know right ? He's not an effing soccer player he's a lawyer !!! Hilarious!!! Finally some logic & comic relief cuz ya won't get it from these scaredy cat housewives!
@The_edible_flower3 жыл бұрын
Petition to make PK an official housewive 🙌🏾🙌🏾
@teresaanderson49773 жыл бұрын
I would like that also. Go PK
@minx25283 жыл бұрын
Let's start a Petition and send it Bravo!! 😆🤣😂
@dee71063 жыл бұрын
He’s right
@lingra95413 жыл бұрын
HE HAS NO FEAR OF THAT BULLY.....ERICA
@bkny67672 жыл бұрын
Right? PK is awesome. More and more awesome in hindsight
@noirlily34133 жыл бұрын
Kyle is SO two-faced! Fully engaged in listening to people bad-mouth who's supposed to be her friend
@memorydocumentation59423 жыл бұрын
she needs to be honest about this meeting that she had with dorit and the husbands
@mayanelson57652 жыл бұрын
She literally laughed every time someone said something rude about lvp
@katlndry Жыл бұрын
Y’all act like Kyle is the only one who does that lmao they all do it.
@lazaromurad3223 жыл бұрын
I would love to go and have a drink with PK and Mauricio they seem really fun!
@katiekuchen96943 жыл бұрын
A drink 🥃 or a 🍃
@lazaromurad3223 жыл бұрын
@@katiekuchen9694 both!!! I like him even more because of it! lol
@teresaanderson49773 жыл бұрын
Me too
@FranklySpeaking.3 жыл бұрын
*I wanna smoke some fine buds with him! LOVE THAT MAN!*
@laurabaker94683 жыл бұрын
I love the way P.K talks and the way he thinks.
@Reality_TV_Queen3 жыл бұрын
PK makes a great house husband! 🖤
@alexgogo94653 жыл бұрын
"No no no no, Not the brain, do the fucking ankle" ahahahahahahahhahahahahahysterical !!!!
@stardustring3 жыл бұрын
Hilarious
@Teaally19133 жыл бұрын
This is actually funny… great humor. This man was a thief. Erica says she is BROKE… yet her glam is still traveling with her like she is a hot movie star. What a joke.
@astridholland6675 Жыл бұрын
You mean she can afford to leave her new TINY house!?
@ciciad20103 жыл бұрын
PK needs a diamond 😩😂
@kittyvale6713 жыл бұрын
British humour is everything 😭😭😭😭😭PK !!
@stardustring3 жыл бұрын
OMG yes!
@angelique97863 жыл бұрын
“Call Tom. Hey Tom it’s been 6 months” 💀
@tammiesorrells9433 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love everything that PK said about Erika! Spot on! She only cares about herself!!!!
@Babyvalkyie3 жыл бұрын
PK was and IS NOT here for the shenanigans in any capacity 😭✋🏾 his wife is a little much but not unlikable. I could do Dorit for a good...15 minutes then im recusing myself 🤣
@JaylaJellyBean973 жыл бұрын
This is the one. I love me some PK. Dorit is meh at best. I don’t particularly care for her after the way she tried Garcelle.
@Babyvalkyie3 жыл бұрын
@@JaylaJellyBean97 Yeah I agree I didn't like that either
@juls410563 жыл бұрын
PK is out here preaching! Only thing i disagree with is that she's controlled. Shes not being controlled. Shes playing and has played a larger role in all of this. Too much of her story is falling apart. When u have police departments calling you out it's a problem for me plus her online behavior has been disgusting. I used to like her but this season has shown a whole new side. I cannot stand the fact that the other ladies allow her to intimidate them. All it will take is her to try that shit on the right person. Her day is coming.
@minx25283 жыл бұрын
Agree!! PK, just can't come out say what he really thinks about Erika.. PK, knows that Erika is a greedy lying old tart and a grifter but Erika will be back next season and Dorit would have to endure Erika's wrath for another season, if he went too far..
@ginabindari51842 жыл бұрын
Totally, Aandy MUST have Aunty Dodo and Beth on RHOBH and they will take E.J. to the jail cell! HAHAH! Karma!
@juls410562 жыл бұрын
@@ginabindari5184 lolol right!
@juls410562 жыл бұрын
@@minx2528 yup. I was honestly hoping dorit would be out but idk.
@peachesmcgee47952 жыл бұрын
I like how he confronts her and doesn't let her do her usual bullying thing that she does with the other housewives.
@blacklatin9043 жыл бұрын
PK is always on point. Love his energy.
@christopherliverman83333 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how everyone loves PK now but his first season he took a lot of flack for telling Erika the truth. Let’s stop getting mad at men for defending their wives. If wanna play with the boys, be ready. It’s a lot of that bull on bravo shows where women don’t want men in their business but then wanna fight with them and expect them not to say anything.
@amberkelly31873 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand the view that man can’t say what they think to women but woman can say what they like to men, or have their husband take care of that. People are people. Women can say nasty things as easily as men and really it’s just an opinion and everyone has one.
@katiekuchen96943 жыл бұрын
Agreed, he handled himself well when he confronted Erika the first time. He wasn’t belligerent or shouting in her face. He stood up for himself and his wife he shouldn’t have got so much flack
@minx25283 жыл бұрын
I always agreed with PK in regards to Erika.. I could never understand why Erika had so many fans..
@Feed-My-Mind-Not-My-Ego3 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear someone say “don’t call me honey” I think back to Teresa and Danielle. “It’s bitch better.”
@j.c77193 жыл бұрын
Possibly the best scene in HW history, Teresa and Jacqueline chasing Danielle through the North Jersey 😂😂
@SuperPariss3 жыл бұрын
well I didn't wanna call you honey, bitch. Is that better? Is bitch better?
@jisoochrist3 жыл бұрын
@@j.c7719 Danielle: SHE'S BEHIND YOOOOU **cuts to Teresa walking like the Terminator with the wind blowing**
@katiekuchen96943 жыл бұрын
Hahaha me tooo!! I even used that line before 😂
@verystylishordinarypeople3 жыл бұрын
@@j.c7719 Which season of RHONJ? please
@malehlohonolo84633 жыл бұрын
"You're not deliberately cold, you're inherently cold" no truer words🔥🔥
@thisuntil30013 жыл бұрын
PK needs a diamond! Pk, Garcelle, Kathy, and Sutton have carried this season! Shoutout to Mauricio too! lol
@georginaohara423 жыл бұрын
PK “he’s suddenly copped a deaf ‘un” …….. Quote of the season 😂
@TheMommaDiary3 жыл бұрын
And a news report just came out that Tom said Erica knew about it all. Just as I expected!
@katiekuchen96943 жыл бұрын
It’s on video!! He looks right at the camera and smirks
@les_51843 жыл бұрын
Wasn't a huge fan of Dorit or PK early on but I've really grown to like them. Dorit seems to be a pretty genuine, kind-hearted person and she has changed a lot over the past few seasons.
@sunnyquan95403 жыл бұрын
Are we watching the same show she’s literally been gaslighting garcelle all season her attitude smells like ass this season petition to replace dorit with PK😂😂😂
@les_51843 жыл бұрын
@@sunnyquan9540 Too be honest, I'm really not that invested in the show (especially this season) I've seen clips and caught up on a few things but not enough to know whose gaslighting who.. I'm just speaking on how I feel about her since she first came on the show! PK has turned out to be a pretty cool dude though, I couldn't stand him at first.
@les_51843 жыл бұрын
@@sunnyquan9540 I kinda feel like the show went downhill quick as soon as LVP and Camille left... I was pretty invested in the earlier seasons, now I just watch clips on here and maybe catch it on tv from time to time! 😁
@kawaiiplastic58083 жыл бұрын
i love dorit too i didn't like them at first either
@les_51843 жыл бұрын
@@kawaiiplastic5808 They were so unlikable at first!
@JuanLopez-uh7kt3 жыл бұрын
I love how men just cut the BS and speak the obvious truth, meanwhile the ladies are like “I think Erika istelling the truth....there’s just bits and pieces that don’t make sense” 🤪 Meanwhile Helen Keller herself sees that she’s lying! 🤦♂️
@nowwhat333 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅 The last part was hilarious. Thanks!
@duchesscinabonashley85373 жыл бұрын
Bravo hire PK immediately.. Rinna talks truth as she lies continuously. PK is spot on every time!!!
@jessicapazo77183 жыл бұрын
Pk deserves a diamond 💎 and wtf with Mauricio? Does he really expect us to believe that kyle hadn't already told him about all of this? He was acting like this was the first time hearing about this. He's not a bad guy but kyle has him wrapped, around her finger, he does whatever she ask and let's face, kyle is awful. A shit stirring mean girl.
@katiekuchen96943 жыл бұрын
I think they have to do a bit of that for the show. They’ve both said before she runs home tells him everything as they’re very close. Because it’s reality and this has to be captured he had to do the fake “huh what?”. Also he was stoned 🤣
@stardustring3 жыл бұрын
She's always stirring the pot.
@yoambria37473 жыл бұрын
He can solve mysteries lol He put it together fast! 😂
@DunkNat3 жыл бұрын
PK's very smart!
@mariannepiiksi53173 жыл бұрын
I agree.. and a self made man👍👍
@darlenesmith92293 жыл бұрын
Fix his foot instead of his brain....she don't want no one checking on that senile old thief...Erika is not nice to the victoms
@DPeacockFilms3 жыл бұрын
“How ya doin’ Tom? It’s been six months.” 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@carjelgannoseimaj34493 жыл бұрын
Brass neck one thing the British are good at telling it how it is 😂
@simonebye87893 жыл бұрын
As a brit myself I will agree with you on that lol
@blackbeauty38463 жыл бұрын
@@simonebye8789 absolutely, we keep it real 👏👏👏👏
@morganrinna75693 жыл бұрын
Amen to that, us Brits, do not care
@katiekuchen96943 жыл бұрын
100%
@melissahamilton61823 жыл бұрын
I love PK,I didn't see anyone reaching out to them when they have money problems.an in order to have a testimony you must go through the test 🙌 love it PK
@pamelanichols31223 жыл бұрын
Ahahaha , P.K got jokes ! Omg , too funny ! Erica is probably saying its War ! Not a threat , but a promise ! lmao
@ashalily53 жыл бұрын
That dinner scene lol! Dorit was really laughing at Mauricio laughing lol
@kimwilkinson7043 жыл бұрын
I love PK he is so English 🤣😂🤣
@april88383 жыл бұрын
PK should be holding a 💎 he is so funny 🤣
@foul-mouthfarrah11583 жыл бұрын
American husbands stay out of it. The English husbands stick up for their wives to the other wives.
@stardustring3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@foul-mouthfarrah11583 жыл бұрын
@@stardustring I find that very interesting. I like it. I'm American and just something I observed.
@Karynita613 жыл бұрын
Do the f%&@ing ankle! Lol
@bergercookie3 жыл бұрын
I can’t help but love how British PK is! He really has some iconic one liners . Reads for days
@yvettetorres78293 жыл бұрын
I lol with PKs telling the story. I mean it's so out there, it's funny.
@EdensSecret13 жыл бұрын
Who says "no" when the doctors want to operate on her 80 year old husband. I suspect someone who does' not want the husband to recover
@teyonceful3 жыл бұрын
Not the brain , do the effn ankle 🤣🤣🤣 ohh Pk just made my day .. So hilarious 💯🤣🤣👌🏻🏆🥇
@traceywilding39163 жыл бұрын
Love it.. true Brit.. no bullshit says it how it is!
@b4glady3 жыл бұрын
I watch this twice! I want to see PK more next season!
@kathleenscheidt73393 жыл бұрын
PK was on fire
@bunnybutcher3 жыл бұрын
Someone said a scammer recognizes a scammer 😂
@Benyikoko3 жыл бұрын
I love how PK is straight to the point. Factual.
@sarahcahoot54443 жыл бұрын
PK needs his on show because he is hilarious.
@moomoobosshogg9733 жыл бұрын
I love him he says it like it is he calls her out he speaks the truth right to her face yessssssssssss
@FranklySpeaking.3 жыл бұрын
*one of IF NOT THE funniest scenes in history... PK Dorit Mauricio & Kyle at dinner. HE'S NOT A SOCCER PLAYER HE'S A LAWYER! OMG I have rewatched that segment 1000 times & literally cannot stop pee-my-pants laughing during it!!! The kicker is that you can tell Mauricio smoked some weed, cuz he was stoned af! Love him. LOVE THAT SCENE! 10's ACROSS THE BOARD! 'NO NO NO...NOT THE BRAIN.. DO THE FUCKING ANKLE!'* 😅
@carolflann29273 жыл бұрын
Did you see Erika's eye's when PK said "You're not Deliberately cold but you are Inherently cold." They opened up like I'm going to get you!
@carolflann29273 жыл бұрын
He called her right out.
@daisypetal24873 жыл бұрын
There's no way Erika didn't know. She knew what her husband was doing. She was squandering blood money.
@cbatbh54023 жыл бұрын
PK and Denise's dude were the best at swatting the nonsense aside
@diannashuster55943 жыл бұрын
PK is great! 🤣
@devinmacrae41833 жыл бұрын
Just noticed EJ has changed her voice. Listen to her voice in the segment clips from a few years ago with PK compared to now. She's so weird. Mauricio is as wishy-washy as his wife.
@TheBreechie3 жыл бұрын
This is an AHHHHHMAZING cut of the footage!!! I’m howling with laughter 😅😂🤣
@Veronica4u2day3 жыл бұрын
I love the way PK acts lol :)
@SP-cd3wo3 жыл бұрын
I just have to say Fraudikas pink hairdo was atrocious.. and preach it PK!
@sashaircha64753 жыл бұрын
PK and Sutton are holding this show.
@zammymynakersnackstbmoth2 жыл бұрын
PK doesn't miss with these reads. Give him a giant rhinestone and make him a housewife! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@keeganthorpe2 жыл бұрын
“You’re not deliberately cold, you’re inherently cold.” Nobody reads like a Brit.
@princepessa162 жыл бұрын
Yes! I would have loved to see PK at the dinner parties the ladies wee at wheelchair Erika was saying all her BS lies. PK And Sutton would have made a great tag team! Sutton deserved to have more support at those dinners than she got.
@princeofdatny3 жыл бұрын
PK called out Erika from the BEGINNING and we all dragged him but he was right. He is owed an apology
@lamoskgr3 жыл бұрын
I'm loving PK this season 🤣🤣🤣
@sherillerodney50253 жыл бұрын
I like when PK says "cocked a deaf 'un. Right ol' cockney geyser. 😂😂😂😂
@fiona45flower223 жыл бұрын
I have time for PK. He talks a lot of sense
@LovePrettyNailsLady-Jay802 жыл бұрын
Tom had to have paid these doctors to diagnose him with Alzheimer's. Edit: I mean how bloody convenient he lost his mind or coincidence?
They can say whatever shit about pk but we can't ignore the fact that he is material husband. The way he depend his wife, the way he adore dorit...bless them
@corrieleigh8083 жыл бұрын
I didn’t care for PK in their first season but I think he’s really insightful and well versed
@geraldineduffy713411 ай бұрын
PK hit the nail right on the head
@Cocoa-yw6pv Жыл бұрын
Like him or not, PK always got Erika together 💀💀💀
@lizcaddy63163 жыл бұрын
Could watch these all day please make more
@ginamaxey99673 жыл бұрын
Erika couldn't lie straight in a bed!!
@raphaelspector36823 жыл бұрын
Funny how the tides have turned.
@thewalk89793 жыл бұрын
The white Peter Thomas
@williamfowlkes58253 жыл бұрын
PK is talking real talk, don’t be afraid of Erika if the tables were turned she would be talking also believe me
@stardustring3 жыл бұрын
Of course she would.
@lilylight8523 жыл бұрын
Dorit was adorable with the laughing 😆
@somethingtosay11192 жыл бұрын
I would match a weird show of PK, Simon Crowell, Naomi C, Heidi k, Dr. Myself and Dr. Terry D or Mr. fancy pants. Omg I had no idea Pk was this funny. No Dr. Not the brain the ankle 🤣🤣
@princepessa162 жыл бұрын
Yes! And I would add Kenya Moore, Phaedra Parks, Bethenny Frankle, Kelly Dodd, and Caroline Stanbury to that list too. All those ladies tell it like it is too!
@G110x63 жыл бұрын
Pk is the smartest one on this show along with sutton
@kateg60293 жыл бұрын
Give those 2 a diamond shelf their wives! I laughed so hard watching this
@Bethania20223 жыл бұрын
Erika is sad cause they were caught, not because of the victims, no sympathy from me!
@Lizzie-ve7kt2 жыл бұрын
PK’s a real one. He’s intelligent, loyal and hella perceptive. I’ve loved him from the beginning and hated how he received so much hate because he finally stood up to Erika the cold hearted bitch.
@fersangar142 жыл бұрын
“He’s not a soccer player, he’s a lawyaaaa.”
@NourKLI Жыл бұрын
I wish Dorit would listen to pk about the Erika and Tom issue and stop backing her up and be a follower.
@pattilightmayo3 жыл бұрын
PK has earned Dorito’s paycheck this season.
@mekasa67213 жыл бұрын
PK deserves his own diamond LOL
@Teaally19133 жыл бұрын
Erica is mad because the money train is out. She saw this coming so she tried to bail out real quick. She knew. She too needs to pay!