Rhyme and Reason (Part 1 of 3)

[@taratupa73]

Thanks for the memories! Back in the pre-cable mid-70s, when I worked nights, I had nothing to watch, all day, but Soaps and Game Shows, and this is one of my all-time favorites! I never missed it!

[@jeffdoogie6375]

I remember watching this with Nipsey Russell as one of the panelists. I remember him on other shows like To Tell The Truth, Match Game, Pyramid and was occasionally on Chain Reaction with Bill Cullen. And a decade later He was the emcee on Your Numbers Up.

[@dakotareeves3939]

This is a pilot episode of "Rhyme & Reason" (an American short-lived game show in the mid 70s) and it originally aired in July '75; this is part one. The two contestants competing on this pilot episode are Patrick & Yensin. 🇺🇲 🇺🇲

[@jamesmoss3424]

One day all episodes of Rhyme and Reason will be found. 😀👍

[@Kinoakim]

Wow this show is right up Nipsey's alley. :)

[@blind_t2]

Kimalysong he could easily ace this show.

[@erebus343]

The guy at the beginning writing "spill" is my grandpa! He was the guy who created the original idea of the show.

[@kellter70]

love the bass riff in the opening song

[@walaseca]

Thanks for posting. I've been trying to remember the name of this show. My memory was limited to one specific rhyme. It began with, "If Jussi Björling, tell him that I'm Bizet," and Jaye P. Morgan completed it with, "But I'm Carmen over, if that's okay."

[@gameshowfreak2007]

that was part of the reason the show was created to showcase Nipsey's poetry.

[@RJSchex]

A year later. By the way, Family Feud was the show that replaced Rhyme & Reason on ABC.

[@joebradio]

I seem to remember a much different theme when the show actually aired .. My memory was that this was designed to tap into the popularity of Match Game and also build around the poet of TV Nipsey Russell. I find it interesting that Dawson was on the panel, considering that we a popular regular on MG. Also, did anyone notice the clue music at 2;44was also use on The Jokers Wild.

[@tjm3774]

Bob hosted another celeb-based game show in 1979 called "All Star Secrets", which ran on NBC from January 8 to August 10 of that year. There are a couple of clips of that show here on KZbin.

[@nickellodeon55]

As I recall, Bob Eubanks once referred to the well-built Conny Van Dyke as "Connie Van Dress". Amusing....

[@johe64]

With the colorful language they used (for the day), this show must have been on AFTER midnight!

[@Netstryke]

3:21>> To quote Bill Rafferty "It's a proper answer. it's a wrong answer but it's a proper answer."

[@erebus343]

Patric is my grandfather! His real name is Paul and was close friends with the host. He aided in the creation of the rules of this game.

[@sha11235]

+erebus343 Too bad the pilot didn't sell.

[@tyrese3745]

It did. It ran for one year on ABC from July 7, 1975 to July 9, 1976. However, the show was placed at the 2:30pm/1:30pm Central time slot for the remainder of 1975 (July 7th through December 26th, the day after Christmas), in which "The Doctors", an NBC medical soap opera, easily beat R&R in the ratings. When the show moved an hour back three days later (displacing "Let's Make a Deal" 1:30pm timeslot), it was faced with competition w/ NBC's "Days of Our Lives" and CBS"s now-cancelled "As the World Turns", both of them which already expanded their soaps to one hour. R&R just couldn't compete.

[@robertf.galgano4615]

Bob Eubanks calls him "Paul" at 6:07

[@StukInBuf]

You and I must be the same age; I was 5 when this aired. And for RJSchex... I lived in Minnesota when it aired, which would've put the time at 1:30PM in the Midwest.

[@Azwells100]

I only watched this snow days

[@JeopardyandWheelFan]

A big connection that Rhyme and Reason has with Match Game AND Family Feud. Rhyme and Reason was created to duplicate the success of Match Game which Richard Dawson was a panelist on, Dawson was a panelist on this episode of Rhyme and Reason, and the show would be replaced by Family Feud which Dawson hosted.

[@sha11235]

I was thinking backside too. I would've chosen that rhyme as a contestant.

[@AlbieGray]

Nuts! Very very nuts! :)

[@RJSchex]

@johe64 Actually, it aired at 2:30 PM ET, replacing "The Big Showdown". On December 29, following the cancellation of "Showoffs", R&R was moved to 1:30, to make room for "The Neighbors".

[@kevinleefamily]

This is the only game show that I was on. Have any of the episodes been archived? BTW....I led most of the way, but lost on the last round.

[@Jack21Spades]

There's a small chance that I may have watched your episode. I'm only 48, but I watched almost every game show between '73 and 2010!

[@tapeduk]

I watched this because Jaye P Morgan was on it

[@briansheil9763]

Richard Dawson looked so young in this. I wonder, when did he make his "Match Game" debut?

[@2005dave]

The day the show premiered in 1973. Dawson was on every episode of Match Game and also concurrently hosted Masquerade Party, a syndicated weekly show for Monty Hall. He did both Match Game and Family Feud for two years until he quit Match Game in 1978, just after the set redesign and introduction of the Star Wheel.

[@MarkStevens-fh3wb]

Two catwoman performers on the same stage, this episode would go down well with the Batman crowd. ;)

[@RJSchex]

About six months and a week. Rhyme & Reason premiered on July 7, 1975; replacing "The Big Showdown". By the way, The Big Showdown was the show that replaced "Newlywed Game", on December 23, 1974.

[@ricknibert6417]

"Money Maze" debuted at 4PM with "$10,000 Pyramid" taking over "Newlywed"'s slot. "Big Showdown" actually replaced a human-interest series titled "The Girl In My Life"

[@DomenicDee]

That Jaye P.Morgan was WILD! lol

[@masonldn8647]

Sorry there was a person called Jp Morgan ?

[@kidfrombrooklyn66]

I wish someone had the last episode - the only game show where the set was destroyed during the closing credits. LOL

[@paulaugustine9971]

Would like to see the theme song posted from the ABC run of the show

[@frankd1965]

R.I.P. Nypsy Russell & Jack Cassidy. BTW Jack has two sons David & Shawn and was married to Shirley Jones.

[@lisaadamson7680]

Jack has four son's, David with first wife and three son's with Shirley Jones

[@StukInBuf]

I would say to him, "Is that the way, Mr. Cassidy, to pay thanks to those who provide you with so much of your daily sustenance?"

[@carltondean3005]

"Scarlett," said Rhett, "I've but one thing to say, Every Day is a 'WHAT A DAY!' "

[@frankd1965]

circa 1975 at The Kuilima Hotel & Resort .Now called The Turtle Bay Hilton Resort

[@bigweezey]

Here is the slogan: Home of the Eubanks

[@frankd1965]

It was called "The Diamond Head" game.

[@hockeybagged]

Is this the pilot episode? I'm wondering if that's why J.P.'s answer wasn't bleeped.

[@frankd1965]

Richard was Sgt. Newkirk on the 1960's comedy "Hogan's Heros".

[@gameshowfreak2007]

oh lighten up!

[@paulchristman2456]

How'd ya get an unedited audio? I wasn't aware originally aired videotapes were available in "in the raw" on any source or format; obviously they are. Fun post! Thanks!

[@BRBTheFireball]

3:18... Jaye P. meant small birds. Yeah, that's the ticket!

[@metalmonkey6262]

this is amazing! how did you find this, and can you post anymore? I'd particularly love to see the ones with Rue McClanahan on the panel. Please!

[@StukInBuf]

Introducing each puzzle sounded like the old THE JOKERS' WILD intro part.

[@Jack21Spades]

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[@Jack21Spades]

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[@danbarker4857]

@William Vollmer, the star wheel on MG didn't debut until 1978.

[@JohnK086]

How ironic of Jaye P. to give her Lady Godiva response. It was a premonition of something she did, in reverse, during a "Gong Show" within 2 years time.

[@2up3rm4n1]

When this show was cancelled, the celebrities demolished the set. I was totally puzzled as to what I was seeing.

[@dagdogg]

Yep

[@bpot22]

yes

[@colBoh]

A weak format, but you gotta love the early 70's get-up!

[@Stratman78]

Does anybody have the final episode (July 9, 1976)? Where Charlie Brill, Pat Harrington, Mitzi McCall and J.P. Morgan destroyed the Rhyme & Reason set by breaking seats, smashed light panels, tore down the 'Rhyme & Reason' signage, and ripped apart the carpeting. As Bob Eubanks said goodbye, the four trashed Eubanks' podium.

[@frankd1965]

I see. thanks for the tidbit. He was married to Shirley Jones.

[@andrewschroy6368]

I think Diamond Head Game aired before this... even though both shows first premiered in 1975.

[@zekepig]

Just before this one

[@76carmel]

@devares2006 Yep, and they forgot the bleeper button. Then again, nobody knew that word had to be censored!

[@fododude]

Well that first poem didn't quite work.

[@zekepig]

The celebrity panel "cleaned up" the set at the close of the finale. Probably because "Family Feud" had a more elaborate floor plan.

[@nefty73]

Richard Dawson was always a playa...

[@gameshowfreak2007]

not sure, but I think this was the only celeb.-based show Bob did

[@torchkit]

@devares2006 Wow. And it wasn't bleeped.

[@Wheeloffortunefan999]

never mind. (i should've known that bob told the celebs that both players had the same word.)

[@Wheeloffortunefan999]

what the? they both had the word sell. how did patrick score.

[@tpir1972]

Is this Bob Eubanks first game show excluding Newlywed Game?

[@cwolvie]

Jack said to Jill when they came down the hill... "I may have all the water, but you got YOUR fill!" "Necking" is something couples do in a car... Usually in a driveway 'cause the hill is too far! When Lady Godiva went for a ride... Men looked at her, then their wives and, as one, they all sighed! "Scarlett," said Rhett, "I've but one thing to say: If General Grant comes, kindly lead him astray!" The Avon Lady is ringing your bell... But you're a male and live alone so tell her "Go to hell!"

[@frankd1965]

Jack was excellent at playing villans. He appeared on Columbo 4 times.

[@PREGO1966]

because "pilots for game shows" never make it to air

[@PatrioticPirate]

@devares2006 I don't believe it, either, but she did! They didn't bleep it out, either?!

[@RJSchex]

Way too much yellow on the set. And those score displays are extremely difficult to read.

[@colBoh]

Yep, for flashing.

[@Rlotpir1972]

@bbbbbbbbbbbbb100 I believe CBS's "Now You See It" was the first.

[@b223647]

Dawson on Eubanks "Match Game clone"?! Was he mad about the "Star Wheel" att his time?

[@quizmaster85]

I think the Star Wheel was established in 1978, a good three years after this pilot was taped.

[@ajk]

@@quizmaster85 It was. Match Game/he was at their peak together back in 75, the show was the most popular in daytime TV at this time.

[@furrykef]

Surely not. Heck, I don't think you can say it *now*.

[@marcomacias3960]

why is the word today not counted it had the word day

[@taralen1101]

I know right. Why do game shows have to be so anal like that.

[@QBCNetwork]

Rhyme & Reason was in a really bad mood, because ABC replaced it with Family Feud!

[@ricknibert6417]

If Eubanks would have gotten his phrases right, we might have seen this show at night. (Actual phrase used on series).

[@tcidolfan]

you talk about too HOT for TV!!! LOL LOL

[@RJSchex]

1:17-camera visible on set.

[@bluebear1985]

Looks like a "Match Game" ripoff. I can see why it only lasted a few months.