Rhythm vs Button Shooting Season 2: Make % on whites on NBA 2K25

[@nba2ktutes]

Please leave any recommendation for a topic!

[@mrrandiom]

-Mini Marksman test and remaining shooting badges -Test layups/dunks coverage similar to how you do with shooting

[@Riichr]

Please test this on high risk next

[@Bxtoypuro]

Difficulty shooting vs high risk / medium risk or any risk-reward shooting

[@officialulti]

Challenger vs Deadeye

[@eyeamyouniverse]

@@nba2ktutes can you test if the green window shrinks with faster shot speed? If it doesn’t, does that, in turn, mean that the percentage of the green window in relation to the total time of the shot get hire. Meaning like, there is less miss window on faster shot speeds

[@notiwavess]

Bro I can’t be the only one shooting worse after the new patch. These past few days shooting has been so inconsistent

[@managed9348]

I just stopped playing for a while i got discouraged

[@dboyfresh9010]

Nah bro same here make me wanna stop playing for awhile fr. Cuz I'm not making another build 🤦

[@7South1Park3]

I was shooting horrible with rhythm shooting this season compared to pre patch so I switched back to button and im back to somewhat normal

[@nolajets6382]

Fuck this game

[@ItsRilez]

It’s weird I’m shooting about 52%

[@brandonknight2223]

They patched rhythm shooting again, Button shooting producing way easier greens now, at first you couldn't green with that button, now the rhythm all fucked up smh

[@notiwavess]

Exactly bruh… I knew i wasn’t trippin

[@Danny-758]

That's facts ... Cause I was rythm shooting before patch... After patch, I was missing with rhythm shooting and hitting more with the button

[@aoa3163]

@@brandonknight2223 now it’s the same ol playstyle, encouraged by people with curry builds and no defense. Greening shouldn’t be easier w the button than rhythm shooting 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@ItsRilez]

Since I started rhythm shooting again I’ve been hitting 60%+ of my 3pt shots. Even hit a few middy step back and post fades I’ve been testing out

[@MIYayYo]

What I discovered with rhythm shooting after patch. High-Risk: Slightly Late, Excellent Tempo Excellent Release, Slightly Fast Excellent Release, Slightly Slow Very Late, Excellent Tempo Normal-Risk: Slightly Late, Slightly Slow Early, Slightly Slow Excellent Release, Slightly Fast Slightly Early, Fast Very Early, Very Fast Late, Slightly Fast Early, Late If you use Normal-Risk, it’s so much harder to make greens with rhythm shooting but whites drop in way more consistently. High-Risk is better for the button user because now the green window is higher on button.

[@RepyonDonGaming]

Heavily considering not buying a 2k until December every year after all this testing comes out because these first 2 motnhs have been horrible. Worst launch of a 2K

[@waff6ix]

SMART MAN💯🤔

[@Jtbg80]

It’s a pretty bad game ngl

[@managed9348]

@@RepyonDonGaming if they takeout the green window moving and the RG the game would be pretty enjoyable

[@franklinagodi9875]

I really enjoy the game. Stealing is just OP and currently Bronny is the only rookie that isn’t wearing 2K generics still. You should buy it earlier so you can hit cap breakers. You get a REP bonus for choosing the winning affiliation. I went from Rookie 5 at 5% to Starter 1 at 40% because Rise just won the last season.

[@HollywoodGaming19]

if you want its $40 right now till the 12th im glad i waited so some of the bogs was fixed somewhat.

[@eyeamyouniverse]

Ryhtym shooting is the best and worst thing 2k added to the game

[@theyreruiningusa]

Its the best. Player inconsistency is the issue. Also, people had to get used to the change in right stick from the season 2 patch.

[@Domeo_Divine]

Real player %, normal, and low risk shooting are the worst things

[@aoa3163]

Rhythm shooting was perfect before the patch. 2k “fixed” rhythm shooting to be more responsive, now it is glitchy, broken, inconsistent, and unreliable. I cannot believe 2k failed this hard with the last patch. I have 5 myplayers and all of them feel the same except my pg. the game is now bland boring and catered to the non-skilled typical spamming playstyles. Why even rhythm shoot when the game rewards you - and it is easier to shoot with the button now???Smdh!

[@Clutchbeezy]

@@aoa3163unreliable asf I couldn’t miss szn 1 . Now it’s weird load ups and very fast, very early for odd reasons. I just went back to using button shooting lol

[@RepyonDonGaming]

Could not agree more bro

[@OnlyOne1Demon]

Lmao I wanna see Mike Wang go live on stream jump in random rec and score 30 off mostly jumpers atleast one time in 4-5 games, if he does I’ll believe everybody just a$$ at the game lol ain’t no way he signed off on this and said oh yeah they’ll be fine smh that dude is insane dawg, non hoopers shouldn’t be creating basketball games

[@Spoofaged]

In the purple lobby I see people dropping 30 a lot. Hell yesterday i played a game where 3 of us had 30, and I had 12 with 18 assists. The very next game none of us could hit anything.... Even rim running was bricks. And the weirdest shit i seen was op team bricked, and our center jumped for the rebound with an op guard in the paint who didn't jump, but the ball bounced off the centers hands straight into the basket for the op team... How the fuck a purple center can't snag an easy rebound that results in him scoring for the op team lmao .. game is fucked

[@managed9348]

@@OnlyOne1Demon every year they be having the opportunity to make an enjoyable game then they do something like this🤦🏽‍♂️

[@mikeb3706]

They messed up rhythm shooting smh its was just fine

[@Jg-gb3gp]

I never stopped rythym shooting for stand still shots and I find it way easier to time still especially on my stretch with 83 3 ball

[@Jg-gb3gp]

But with paddles 😂

[@tonys273]

Yea I just wanna see regular….button vs rhythm which is better to use overall and has the overall better make percentage on all shooting profiles and if the green window still moves al lot

[@johnhancock5274]

If you’re asking which one is easier to shoot on it’s rhythm shooting. Everything else is personal preference but from a purely numbers perspective rhythm shooting is technically easier to green with. He said it in the video the green window for rhythm shooting is significantly bigger than button shooting.

[@bigcarpetflour3572]

@@johnhancock5274they patched it

[@benyb5914]

@@johnhancock5274yes but si ce season 2 launch everyone is complaining about how Rhythm is less consistent so that’s the point we would know

[@johnhancock5274]

@@benyb5914 less consistent maybe but the green window for rhythm shooting was 70% bigger compared to button shooting in season 1. Even if they patched it and the green window is only 40% bigger that’s still a significant difference and means rhythm shooting is still technically better. I believe any inconsistencies people are running into is probably more due to the fact 2k likes to silently patch certain popular jump shots from time to time than any significant changes to rhythm shooting in my opinion.

[@clytcommander1057]

​​@@johnhancock5274so rhythm shooting on high risk is the way to go still? All my builds have between and 78 and 91 thre?e

[@CarlosSanchez-gj6ux]

rhythm shooting should only be allowed if you use high-risk. i’m tired of seeing people make em when one or both parts of the jumper are misstimed

[@nasmoke3087]

Can you test rhythm shooting make % on high vs normal vs low and compare that to button shooting on all 3 as well. I have a theory that rhythm shooting on normal might be better than high

[@itsdjack]

i agree wit u bro… my homie who can’t shoot at all is literally shooting lights out after we switched him to rhythm shooting/ normal

[@nasmoke3087]

@ i shoot high risk but almost all rhythm shots. I have a feeling if i switch to normal, some of these slightly slows or fasts will start to go in

[@kieranmitchell5088]

I agree tbh. Played a guy last night who shoots 22% from 3, but he went 3/5 against me, 1 was slightly early with excellent tempo, the other 2 were double whites

[@bobbybob8678]

my court is not relevant because on HOF difficulty and high risk reward I make whites one after another. however, in the park or REC is a different story

[@xCombative]

🧢 high risk don’t let whites go in. Greens only

[@arronm5896]

I haven played in over a week. Ive noticed now with the rhythm shooting sometimes im only getting the 1 input never had that problem before

[@zachpaulos1066]

Please do a regular test rhythm vs button just showing which is easier to green on high risk. In season 1 the chart 2k labs showed was a MASSIVE boost for rhythm. Curious to see it now

[@clc32790]

Overall, for all shot types (fades, post fades, go-to shots), rhythm shooting is far superior when you get the animation timing down. Button shooting was definitely improved, and rhythm shooting felt different on the season 2 patch. But I changed my jumper completely and fully believe in rhythm shooting being way better. It just takes ALOT of getting used to but once you do, you damn near cant miss. If you are feeling more consistent this season try to find a faster upper release jumper.

[@PAYROLLNEQ]

Can you do a video on what has changed with rhythm shooting the last week or so? I’m getting slightly fast tempo on every shot since season 2 I don’t understand what I’m doing wrong

[@7_Romo]

Thought it was just me they changed something with it

[@stalwartzero7001]

This a really hard one to take to heart because you’re shooting white release on button but green release with white speed with rhythm. Can’t really accurately compare the two without white release but green tempo then make an average of the two rhythm. Either way I’ve shot 5k games of aim shooting in 21 which had massive white boost and can tell you with 700 games of rhythm (half being fades) that whites never go in. It’s a HIGH RISK HIGH REWARD boost system so you’re either on or it’s a flop. If anything I’d say maybe players with lower shot % are given a boost. Maybe try High risk vs Low vs Actual etc. We need a lot more data in this experiment to really have a decent perspective this time

[@2letterstc]

I started using RS last night & I like it waaaay more than the button. Button might be the most inconsistent it’s ever been for me this year

[@hakeem2824]

It’s the exact opposite for me rn

[@joshellisjr8548]

@@hakeem2824facts same. Cause they patched RS. Ima have to go back to the button now to see if I can consistently green again smh.

[@managed9348]

I can’t play nomore than 3 games a day…it just isn’t fun at all

[@cb4gusto744]

😂 I feel you bro

[@jnormproductions]

I wish they would actually match you against somebody with the same shooting setting, It drives me crazy when I get excellent timing with a slightly fast tempo or vice versa and somebody just goin crazy on me with the whites😢

[@PlumGod]

I rythym shoot until I’m too faded. Then I button, then I go on my pure inside XD

[@jordansmobiledetailing5097]

After this new update my old shot which was butter is trash. I hate that they keep messing with a game constantly.

[@francismartino6890]

2k is addicting and I think I have a problem and need help. I put 2k over my Work, family, and own health. I will ignore my family in order to finish a game. I think about what I’m going to do with my cap breakers more than I think about what I’m going to do with my kids. I haven’t hung out with my wife in weeks. HELP

[@bickleyjonas6145]

Good one

[@P.Smithmusic]

What does your wife look like I can keep her company while you play 2k

[@kingooobaba1634]

haahha nah das real fosho

[@DAngelor86]

Go to the psychologist

[@nba2ktutes]

I'm not sure if you are serious about the comment but if you are, I suggest seeking professional help. Prioritizing video games over your kids is kind of alarming to me. Hope everything gets better

[@ptq14]

can you please check the rebounding aspect like boxout assist and difference of rating and badges

[@shinigamirenegade]

From my experience i did both methods and i definitely made more on rhythm shooting . Glad tutes did the test and ran the numbers

[@BBallDigest]

Whats the best Layup Timing profile?

[@noahlange7365]

Hey tutes, been a big fan since 2k20. Ever thought about making content / 2nd channel for build videos / gameplay implementing the data you test?

[@jakeliebling6752]

High or normal risk for rhythm shooting?

[@mjrkidsvids7899]

I wish they buff dunk/layups and pull ups

[@ThinkingCap_]

please do sweet spost for challenger badge - us 2 guards are dying to know if we need 85 or 92 perim D

[@LucasBentim]

I dont notice difference on contest (i have a 92 perimeter D), but i do notice a big difference when i guard the ball (on ball menace on gold). I recommend at least 91 perimeter D for the badge

[@Joe-x3p9i]

Go 99 take out the guessing

[@ThinkingCap_]

@@LucasBentim Yeah challenger specifically is super important - it used to be that bronze was ASS and silver was barely okay.. But since the patch a lot has changed and silver might be the perfect spot now, it'ss o difficult to say

[@ThinkingCap_]

@@vjlive2604 Yeah some are saying this, others are sayin gold challenger is absolutely needed

[@Silverado-pq6xe]

@@Joe-x3p9iLMAOOO

[@applejuicethug]

i know u tested strength alr but can u see if it has a impact on contact dunks?

[@theyreruiningusa]

Strength helps you not get forced into layup animations. You'd be able to finish at the basket, including getting dunk animations, easier. Big difference felt from 73 strength to 85 strength

[@TitoINKed]

I'd like to see this as well. I have a 97 dunk slasher (after cap breakers) with 91 strength and I'm always getting thrown out of animations even by guards.

[@ookie218]

​@@theyreruiningusa I have 84 strength and get way too many layup animations. 85 the sweet spot?

[@tc6ix-]

@@TitoINKedbro they fucked up dunking bro if they have glove tiny guards can take you out dunk animations💔💔💔💔💔 I understand once ina while but every time is cra

[@Davevictory1]

When playing MyTeam should I be using high risk shooting? I do but I feel like I only make shots that are green and if I’m a little off that’s the difference between winning and losing. I have to be on fire every game. Then my opponent comes down and hits whites. The only reason I don’t switch is I feel like I make more greens on high risk. I only use rhythm shooting with certain players.

[@JUSTEREACTS]

Did paint defense get buffed ? Over the last few weeks I’ve been killing it on inside paint d

[@Justins169]

Bro i got a base for you to try.. demar derozon and relases i use is demar derozon and Carmelo Anthony 50/50 blend and 4/4 speed

[@jwfaro1957]

Is challenger video coming out soon? I am trying to decide whether to go silver or gold haha

[@vincentfandf]

So if I understand correctly from this video is it advisable to pull with the button that is easier to make green?

[@SomeReplyGuy]

I think the buffed button shooting and nerfed stick shooting.

[@fki1996]

Since I rhythm shoot everything & shoot around 60/65% from 3 should I use normal or high risk??

[@fabiooliveira6862]

Can you checked if motion styles give advantage on rebounds?

[@4realonxboxyt461]

I wanna know if strength affects your dunking ability

[@chriscamilo2632]

Where you doing it on normal risk or low risk?

[@calvin9495]

All these people saying they’re shooting worse w rhythm shooting is interesting bc I’m shooting better and I take every shot with rhythm

[@slat4L]

Same but it feels a bit inconsistent

[@kierremoore3465]

Or can you test strong handles or the lay up testing ? I feel like the timing profiles on there are weird and the badges too

[@theyreruiningusa]

Please test timing stabilty on the effect of rhythm shooting. Definitely seems that tempo has less fluctuation in speed with high timing stability

[@SBGMember]

What is the difference between whites and greens?

[@Percxnjon]

High risk or normal risk for this ?

[@LG1510]

rhythm is the best its feels more natural to me with a 76 3 ball you just need the right base

[@shevjdewcewcd7934]

what base u use?

[@LG1510]

@@shevjdewcewcd7934 i got a 6'10 sf i use johnathan isaac base with beluba and thaddeus young release

[@Jus2Smooth4You]

So they did buff button shooting or the green window for certain settings was increased?

[@MrRealTalk]

*Is the button shooting the same as right stick shootin just holding it down (not rhythm shooting wen pushing up at the end)*

[@tylers.3277]

Forgive if this has been answered, but was these tests done on “normal risk” ?

[@BBallLore]

Rhythm shooting on medium risk is really the way to go. I’m shooting 50ish percent from 3

[@LG1510]

@@BBallLore naw facts im shootin 50 with a 76 three

[@makaveli_tha_don3338]

I still don’t know how to rhythm shoot… and did they change the standing dunk meter? i don’t get one at all this year

[@itsclarke3900]

WE NEED YOU TO TEST FLOATER RATINGS.... PLEASE PAIR HIGH CLOSE SHOT WITH LAYUP TOO SEE IF THERE IS A DIFFERENCE..... ARE WE BRICKING FLOATERS BC OF LOWER CLOSE SHOT.... I have nasty 6'2 PG with a 92 close shot and 80 layup... wondering if Trae Floater will go crazy again with the close shot

[@hackfree5098]

Could you maybe a video on dunk attempts vs layup attempts (with attributes) I have a point guard build w 93 lay and 89 dunk but I feel it prioritizes my layups because of my rating but in a lot of moments I’d rather trigger a dunk! I think that test will answer for a lot of players having this problem

[@NickSwishh]

Can you test if 85 midrange boosts green window make percentage for 3’s?

[@BraxtonMiller101]

Tutes can we get a 3 point attribute retest? Knowing if a 84 or 86 three gives extra value would help a lot of us

[@BraxtonMiller101]

This is infuriating, white vs green makes doesn’t mean anything. It’s just the way 2K decides to show you RNG. Tutes, what I think would be more helpful is a retest on the 3 point attribute rating. Especially from 78-89

[@managed9348]

I am so tired of the green window moving on me it’s discouraging

[@gs5354]

You should do your tests in the practice facility. Do you know the mycourt / park is closer 3pt and facility and rec are NBA 3pt? Since it doesn’t look like you have the shot distance up.

[@nba2ktutes]

It doesn't matter much. As mentioned on the video just focus on the gaps. The only takeaway i need you to get from this is which shooting mechanic will give you more whites. At the end of the day, you can never be so accurate on comparing these 2 anyways. Everyone have different badges, skill, zones, latency, etc. We can only have rough estimations.

[@g-8643]

Test a high middy/low 3 with HOF or legend set shot specialist vs 92-94 3 pt with gold set shot

[@mattmackay12]

Does meter have an impact? I swear I was shooting .10% with button then turned my meter off, instantly better. Maybe I'm just seeing the release better but feel like there's a boost.

[@elmarfazlagic3221]

Meter off always had a boost, this year is not different. Turning it off gives you bigger green window.

[@number9404]

Can you go lighting lunch vs agility ?

[@kierremoore3465]

Tutes my guy can you test difficulty based shooting on the timing profile ? I got a teammate that switched to it and he seems to hit a lot more shot than he did on normal

[@mikeesteves8427]

i do wonder how much the difference from wide open to open would affect the results

[@luckydawg7176]

Kronos zen fixed my shooting problems

[@mustangnotsamsung5352]

Test if flashy passes give you a boost on shooting

[@ZachNovak]

I tried medium risk from high and with rhythm it felt exactly the same to me. I'm probably going back to high just for my own sanity.

[@user-gs8so6ik9w]

Why? If you brick on medium risk you have a chance to still make the shoot. If you brick on high risk the balls never goes in.. theres NO POINT to use high risk

[@Ookayy004]

It makes sense cause in rhythm u r still greening 1 out of 2

[@Percxnjon]

Is this on high risk reward ?

[@yaopps4416]

Can we please test the effectiveness of True badges that you get from attributes vs Plus One Badges that arent backed by attributes

[@ogg7490]

I like rhythm shooting, I have a 85 3 and shoot 60% with it since season 2 started. I run PG too

[@eligreg99]

I’m done going back n forth. I can’t get my timing right because they keep patching the game. Just chill out and let people learn how to shoot Jesus

[@roebeatz]

2k tutes cooking

[@RepyonDonGaming]

Please test Rythm Shooting vs Button Shooting Make Percentage! On normal Risk. Also if you haven’t please test the make percentage boost on hot zones vs lethal zones if you can.

[@Spoofaged]

I'm hitting about 45% on high risk with the problem being one game I'll shoot 8-9, next game I'll be 1-5 like it's on repeat and see people make white all the time so i tried the normal risk and literally didn't hit a single shot for 2 games straight. Turned out back to high risk and went 9-9, and 9-11 the next 2 games. Rng is some bullshit

[@birdmas]

Day 3000 of asking 2k to make a good game again

[@malik2728]

Been rhythm shooting since the start and after that patch where they “ fixed shooting” it made rhythm shooting so inconsistent and garbage it’s crazy to me. Why add it and basically push people to learn it to make it trash.

[@Marcocappp]

Do rhythm shooting vs button shooting on high risk

[@traceslucas84]

Please test rhythm shooter after the patch

[@rocks4396]

I have 96 three and shoot 60% from three with the button. Tried using rhythm shooting for 10 games and I shot around 45%

[@brandonfeliciano4615]

That’s because it’s an adjustment bro, you perfect it and you’ll shoot way better with the stick then button.

[@JJ-by6rd]

@@brandonfeliciano4615i shot way better with rhythm before the update then i couldn’t shoot as good with it, i gave it a chance and tried to adjust but now i’m on button shooting better than rhythm even before the update

[@brandonfeliciano4615]

@@JJ-by6rd I was the same at first, was good with rhythm before patch and then patched drop and I was missing everything but after a couple days I’m back to shooting normal again. I tried normal risk with rhythm and was hitting was 50/50 but once I was greening consistently on normal risk I switched back to high risk and now I’m lights out bro.

[@brandonfeliciano4615]

@@JJ-by6rd my last 28 games I shooting 78% from 3! And I average bout 3-6 3s a game in 3v3

[@JJ-by6rd]

@@brandonfeliciano4615 i believe it bro! i think i’ll try it again on my new tall build but buttons been doing me good on my little guard so i’m sticking with it

[@YoungVampireLifestyle]

Non hoopers creating our basketball games

[@ryanarendt5743]

Tutes were these tests done on normal risk or high risk ??

[@Your_Average_Gamer_Fabo]

Obviously normal because you don't make whites on high risk

[@mikeesteves8427]

normal risk you cant make whites on high

[@bwizzle376]

I can’t be the only one when using rhythm shooting it doesn’t register that I pulled that stick down. In game it act as in I was shooting with button even tho I pulled the stick down and up

[@jahnj2523]

Happens all the time. They ruined it and honestly don't even feel like playing anymore

[@Benz-0]

Can you test set shot specialist

[@gee5ny]

make a video effectiveness of a 5’9 with mini marksman and 6’2 mini marksman against different heights 6’4-6’7 locks

[@charlespendley6360]

I keep getting slightly fast now with rhythm shooting

[@perfectpraxiss3559]

This is about to piss people off BC they didn’t understand it

[@mikeesteves8427]

normal risk + rythm shooting seems to be the move i guess

[@Jtbg80]

I’m ready to just delete the game and move on. The defense is horrible and the shooting too. When you get the same feedback for shot timing no matter what adjustment you made there’s an issue. Its like they forcing you to miss to make the game more competitive

[@taeplayzz6299]

Badge test?

[@dahra]

wow you're the goat!! thank you

[@wycatchespips145]

People been timing there shots no where close to right with rhythm shooting and I’ve noticed they’ve been going in too often

[@inoxus1988]

I thinks it's clear it is time to use rythym shooting

[@OliverC-zu9oy]

only in high risk shooting can I feel that I'm actual playing

[@BG336hp]

I make more shots from the bottom then right stick

[@Topolinho]

Wingspan effect on steals and contest please

[@MasterCorvid]

I make whites on high-risk with rythm shooting.

[@lukasschmitt5894]

Stop the cap. Maybe 1 in a million

[@MasterCorvid]

@lukasschmitt5894 multiple times. Many games. Not often. But more than one in a million.

[@ismarm7873]

Why they with rhythm shooting can choose a level of reward? That's crazy with that much boost on shooting they gonna take normal and make like 5 in row white shoots.... damn this game is really going crazy, as a huge fun and player this is crazy.. I'm gonna adapt to everything and every gameplay of 2ks, but this shit is cheese damn...

[@jeppeholgerkielrasmussen4706]

Pls test dimer

[@1GodExist]

Hey , First ! But seriously tho why is nba2k25 such a bad game .... oh maybe it isnt a game ... but a business product... makes sense

[@KeepingItJoah]

please do rise up!