Rich Eisen on Bryce Young’s Chances to Bounce Back from His Panthers Benching | The Rich Eisen Show

[@treysonmcgrady4750]

Baker is a class act, that was an amazing and genuine response

[@patrickzdanek2681]

Yeah, for sure. He sees Young's struggles in his past experience. I watched Young play for Bama and he just doesn't look like himself out there but as Baker said... "Sometimes you need to have the right pieces around you". I hope he does bounce back.

[@ravenkahne8484]

The Browns wanted "a mature person in the room" So happy for Baker.

[@kangZ_94]

Baker has matured so much it’s crazy. Story of the year!

[@proto-geek248]

Went from boy to man quickly.

[@akiraSRT]

Baker should win Comeback player of the year ngl his story man after going to Tampa Bay and actually working under Dave Canales scheme last year and still ballin this year man

[@zaneplatt3533]

Ehhh, yes and no. He did well with the two good orgs and struggled more with the bad orgs. Someone is more likely to do good work at a good workplace, it ain't complicated

[@trevorD1156]

It's week 2, and they barely play preseason. Maybe the story of September, the least important month of the season.

[@frankez99]

Bryce will be fine, either as a backup, or in life general. He’s a quality human, just not built for being a full time NFL QB.

[@Drewswaggy]

Well said dude…

[@trevorD1156]

Maybe if he had been a 3rd round pic and sat behind someone while he bulked up for a few seasons he could have been decent. But, His chances with no 1 expectations, a coach that wanted CJ, bad owner, and below average roster were non existent.

[@chasejordan7163]

You know him?😮

[@razkable]

He threw 11 tds last year and had 4 less ints than mahomes who had 27 tds.....we need to stop acting like he can't play at all

[@jermainejpshepherd2778]

​@@razkable he can't. His height hinders him too much for Bryce to get the job done. That's not mentioning his meh arm & athleticism.

[@kylem6370]

You can’t blame “not having the right guys” for missing bubbles screens and hitch routes… roster doesn’t effect your QB’s ability to throw a football

[@jasonfenner360]

Agreed!

[@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429]

You can see who's watched Panthers games vs who hasn't based on the comments.. Bryce has panic scrambled himself into half his sacks, missing easy throws.. so bad

[@dayonebullzkennel]

Big Facts !!!

[@trevorD1156]

I will always believe the media hyped up Bryce, downplayed his height(Google says 5'10"lmao)and baited tepper into drafting him 1st.

[@davidh884]

Get sacked 5 times and try to throw a football accurately 🤡

[@TheLoneGamr]

So many of these “experts” making it real obvious they never watch a single Panthers game.

[@dayonebullzkennel]

Big Facts !!!!

[@razkable]

He can be a backup...thats fine

[@adamant5550]

Exactly!

[@adamant5550]

@@razkable That's all he'll ever be

[@IanSane]

Baker Mayfield on the Browns was nowhere near as bad as Young has been. He actually wasn't really that bad at all. He played well the year they ended their playoff drought and it was generally thought to be odd that they sent him packing for a guy who hadn't played in two years. So Mayfield finding another team made sense. At the worst he would have been considered an acceptable choice for a backup with lots of potential. Young looks like he forgot how to play. If he was drafted outside the first round with this level of play he would be cut and no one would pick him up. His draft position is 100% of his appeal at this point.

[@GreenDragonPainting]

Tepper is cursed for the way he handled Cam Newton. I live in Carolina and the hate for Tepper is real.

[@UncleBobbo]

I agree with the way he treated cam, but more importantly was how he treated Rivera and then Wilks.

[@Schnauzerpatrol]

The hate is deep and very real

[@trevorD1156]

The hate is everywhere for him. With Snyder gone and Jerry Jones a side show that hasn't made the SB since the panther 1st season. He is now alone as the league's least popular owner.

[@ryanurban1]

Wow, Baker's comments were perfect.

[@whiskeredtuna]

@ryanurban1, that don’t mean they’ll come true.

[@ryanurban1]

@@whiskeredtuna Obviously.

[@anthonyizquierdo5467]

All this falls on deaf ears when Andy Dalton goes out and runs an actual offense and the panthers are semi-competitive with the exact same supporting cast. Dalton did the same thing in Seattle last year.

[@akiraSRT]

Yeah to be to be fair Bryce did have flashes. Especially his absolute battle vs Jordan Love last year and it wasn’t even his fault whoever was calling plays at that period should be long gone for the atrocious time management.

[@anthonyizquierdo5467]

@@akiraSRT the Green Bay game was the only flash. It was the only time he threw for over 250 yards in a game and the offense scored a season high 30. But he followed that up the next two weeks with 2 horrible performances and the offense got shut out back to back weeks to end the year. In daltons one start last season he threw for more yards than Bryce did all year with the same receivers. And the panthers trailed in every single game so even with more garbage time than most he still only had 1 decent game in 18. That’s simply not enough.

[@golkeganac4339]

Or Dalton is terrible, the panthers are a joke, and Canales gets exposed as a fraud.

[@akiraSRT]

@@anthonyizquierdo5467 look at whats surrounding him. Baker has Godwin and Mike Evans. Sam Darnold got Jefferson and Addison, Bryce has a damn near 40 year old AT & Diontae Johnsons a dog but doesn’t help if he’s getting covered by the other teams CB1

[@akiraSRT]

@@anthonyizquierdo5467 Xavier Legette is a ROOKIE mind you.

[@taylorbasri2032]

Mayfield has a decade of experience... I am glad he is doing well, but he wasn't terrible in Cleveland.

[@jebadaiah1228]

Baker is built differently though... Young is not good, I dont get why this is a surprise to anyone..

[@awebb274]

We also saw Baker's potential early on in Cleveland. He always had a great arm

[@proto-geek248]

Baker's a fireplug.

[@trevorD1156]

Baker is Kirk cousins, decent regular season stats but will never make a Superbowl. There was a reason most of Cleveland was happy to be rid of him.

[@trevortheclever2738]

Same. Rich is so “shocked.” I’m questioning whether or not Rich has even seen him play. He’s straight up trash. As a Panthers fan, I’m completely ready to move on from Bust Young.

[@adamant5550]

@@trevortheclever2738 He probably only watched him when he was at Alabama. I have a hard time believing Rich has ever watched a Panthers game in the last 5-6 years.

[@icnn3]

Oddly the QB that showed a ton a growth in two games with Carolina and ended up with 3rd highest preseason passing grade in the league was the 6’5 rookie Jack Plummer from Louisville.

[@IM_Arcades]

Sam Darnold seem to find his groove after being with the Niners for a year, behind Kyle Shanahan and Brock.

[@jermainejpshepherd2778]

Darnold was decent in Carolina with an 8-9 record as our starter. But as usual, we gave up on him too fast.

[@Shlikas]

"When Keenan Allen gets healthy" 😂

[@elliotb1795]

The difference is that Baker and Darnold weren't that bad, not even close actually. I feel for the kid but the other guys, even Geno Smith, showed a lot more than he did. That's why those other quarterbacks got second chances. I don't think this kid will get another starting position with another team. He'll have a much harder time try to climb back up as a 2nd string quarterback.

[@jeanfourcade]

At his age and already 40mil guaranteed, he'd be better off pursuing his favorite field (psychology). He's bad at pro football, too small, but smart enough to be successful at much more fulfilling careers than throwing balls and dodging murderous freaks.

[@2elgnismi]

It’s all good we just need to tweak a thing or two, Like maybe new ownership, an entire new scouting department , a new general manager, maybe 20 good players, a new stadium. Cheaper beer prices. Like I said just a few minor tweaks.

[@jermainejpshepherd2778]

Bryce got 5 receiving targets averaging 2.5 or better in yards of separation currently. That oline is top 5 in pass blocking as we speak as well. But when you're physically limited, it doesn't matter. He's not an NFL QB period.

[@RexKwon]

To be fair, the 1990 Cowboys roster had Irvin, Emmit, Novacek, Johnston, Newton, Stepnoski, and Tuinei to support Aikman. They didn't even have Larry Allen or Alvin Harper on offense yet.

[@Gemni65]

Disney conference doesn’t produce quarterbacks like the big10

[@CONxNOR]

Feels like the sports media is trying so hard at convincing themselves they weren’t wrong about Bryce, and instead it was the Panthers that ruined him. Not every first round qb succeeds, every draft has its bust. Why is it so hard to believe that a 5’9 ~180lb qb that looks like they belong on a JV team is not gonna work out. The deck is stacked against him, and smaller qb that have succeed like Brees, Kyler, and Wilson or exceptions to the rule.

[@eddiehardin33]

It’s obvious you didn’t watch the 2 games

[@musicluva314]

A lot of people who have terrible takes like these don’t watch Panthers games. They’re in for a rude awakening come Sunday.

[@whiskeredtuna]

@musicluva314, I agree 100%. Most of them don’t even realize the improvement the o-line has made this year.

[@trevortheclever2738]

100%. I’m a Panthers fan and cannot BELIEVE guys like Rich acting all surprised. I’m totally convinced they haven’t seen him play. Bryce is objectively bad in and of himself.

[@SuperCliffReviews]

He's really really small

[@mustymartian8684]

That's what she said, ha, ha, ha. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@adamant5550]

And has no arm strength or athletic ability

[@NightTrain950]

This season Bryce has had an offensive line with top 5 pass protection, open receivers, and he can't trust himself to make a read or throw a screen pass. He was unplayable through these first two weeks with no sign of improvement (only regression from last year). His play deserved being benched for. Its not worth losing a locker room to continue to have uncompetitive games with a QB that is not the long term answer for your team.

[@adamant5550]

Shhhhhh, that doesn't fit the narrative that Rich and the mainstream sports media are selling

[@bbb4228]

Baker made the playoffs in his previous spot

[@aaronpatton4884]

Canales convinced Tepper to set a new precedent, to treat this year as Bryce's rookie season, sit him down, let him learn and develop, and then Bryce will be back.

[@jeremygarbisch5287]

maybe the broncos will send them 2 first round picks for Bryce Young

[@adamant5550]

Lmfao the amount of excuses being made by the mainstream sports media on behalf of Bryce Young are absolutely insane at this point. Do these people not even watch the games?

[@Stratted843]

He looks like he’s on his way to play Pokémon

[@sheltonguy539]

All these people saying Bryce was so smalls and a bust. Then they feel bad and shocked when he’s benched lol

[@whiskeredtuna]

@sheltonguy539, yep, they keep changing the narrative.

[@rmlsi4650]

This is all proof that most QBs are not ready to start right away and the NFL needs to go back to giving these kids a year or two at least to learn.

[@nancypine9952]

I'm grateful that the Patriots decided to sit Drake Maye. A lot of fans griped, but then they saw the O-line and realized that needed to be fixed first. And while he has talent, there are some areas he is still working on. I'll take the losses this year, and hope that next year he can start and do well. There's a long, long list of quarterbacks who sat for a year and said it made all the difference to them.

[@Italiag1]

Jests fan who’s talking about how bad the Panthers are a joke. Do you want us to keep playing him like Zach Wilson ? Other people’s jobs are on the line playing Bryce. If it’s. It working then you have to make big boy decisions no matter where you are drafted.

[@darnell16player]

I am not sure on this benching being the best thing for him considering his confidence is probably shot to dust. He had no offensive line to protect him like even against the chargers on that blitz when he ran out that was a good thing. His receivers can’t separate worth a damn and the running game there don’t exist it’s literally 10 v 11 every snap

[@BMADRAY85]

Bryce is not an NFL caliber QB

[@hankl1118]

It would only be a shock if he'd been benched by the HC that drafted him. New HC's job is to win games asap, and he doesn't have the pressure of owning that draft pick...

[@aaronpatton4884]

Imagine workingin a toxic work environment. Imagine sticking that out for over a year and receiving the most scrutinizing criticism by everyone in the world, and then have something to say about Bryce Young and what he is going through.

[@bmcilwai]

I think it’s insane that all summer you all talk about the upgraded weapons and now that he is struggling….you blame the supporting cast…I can’t wait until the media eats their words

[@sbl9467]

I dont blame the coach for benching him. At the end of the day Bryce's abilities and skills will determine if the coach gets fired or not. They're not gonna fire Bryce. So for the sake of my job I'd bench him too. He aint gonna get me fired!

[@AceDRenegade]

I am 5’10. When I heard this guy measured at 5’10, I immediately refused to believe he was the favorite to go #1. He looks lost out there and scared. 6’4 - 6’6 professionals in pads rushing you is a lot different than college

[@UncleBobbo]

They messed him up from the get-go. He never should have started his first season. He never had to compete for his roster spot. It set the tone in his career to not put in any effort .

[@DeathFaN88]

Can't bounce back from what was never ever there. He doesn't have the tangibles and won't ever have them.

[@Cigarmusic81]

Man can Sunday hurry up and get here so Dalton can show all you “experts” that Young just needs to sit and he isn’t ready.

[@thinkfree652]

Carr didn't have the weapons with the Raiders and still broke all the passing records. Dumb Mark Davis fired him and now Carr is called the Carr Bomber with the Saints.

[@razkable]

He seems mentally checked out as a panther

[@DaneOrschlovsky]

If Bryce Young was built like Josh Allen, sure, I would be all about his bounce back. But he's built like a frailer Tua. There's no conceivable pathway to Bryce living up to his draft stock. Baker makes some solid points. Anything is possible.

[@Urbohat]

If the team is that devoid of talent Then DON’T give up so many high draft picks to get a QB unless it’s a Peyton or Dan Marino. Trade down, accumulate picks and build up your roster in two solid drafts THEN go get A QB

[@cjn6564]

He’s cooked

[@kieronmckay4276]

Comparing records of current young QBs to historical QBs is a pointless exercise. The game is different, the pressure and money is different, the microscope and media is different, and the patience fans and owners have is different. The best thing in the world for Bryce would probably be to get out of Carolina no matter what form that takes, and if it takes getting benched and not getting another opportunity…hey he won the lottery once, he’ll be fine. He looks miserable on this team emotionally, just totally hates life right now. Get him off the field, get him on a new team and some distance from this owner, and you probably still have a capable player.

[@whatudontunderstandis-gk9hk]

C'mon Rich. Reich wanted Stroud. Tepper wanted Young. The End

[@hmore4395]

Bryce Young looks lost. Like the moment is too big for him to handle.

[@daleschmitz5832]

You can’t fix nebbish.

[@mattcarberry368]

Panthers fan here: i watched Chris Weinke, i watched Jimmy Clausen.... this has been worse Bryce is short, thin, soft arm, not fast, horrible footwork, no vision, bad reads, and had a top 5 pass blocking o-line this season and WRs who Andy Dalton made look good last szn in his one start, yet somehow Bryce couldn't even throw a bubble screen properly and that's because of the players around him? honestly the ONLY thing that confused me about this whole situation was anybody ever thinking this guy was built for this.... dude is built like Eddy Piniero and can't even hit quick outs with proper velocity🙄let's be real, there is *NO* "situation" in which this skill set works in the NFL, nevermind as a supposed franchise QB lol what a joke this been from the start Yeah the Panthers obviously suck (thanks Tepper) but Bryce drags them down so much further i get the whole "change of scenery, new opportunity, get off a bad team and fresh start" thing but that's not what this is..... shouldn't need THAT much help to even look like you belong on the field, and he clearly looks out of place and outmatched in every imaginable way in this league the only thing that's the Panthers fault here is giving up all that talent and draft capital for a Happy Meal QB that simply ain't built for it

[@tonysoprano1884]

Trevor Siemian is a better quarterback than Bryce Young. Hell even Zach Wilson has better stats than Bryce Young.

[@seanoconnell2073]

Please stop comparing young Troy Aikman to young Bryce Young. Physically, they are not the same species.

[@electriclott]

His confidence is shot. Can he get it back?? Dont know. Even if he does, does he have the physical skills to play in the NFL? Seems unlikely. Either way, he is going to ok.

[@mukbangjeezus126]

Eisen, How dare you say what you say on Bryce Young! Although he is a rookie, he needs more attention to vets like Jordan Love. I seen jordan love get thrown out there at Year 2 and it wasn't looking so pretty. But then after a couple of years he flourished end of season! Give him to a good team, they NFL threw him as fresh meat to a den of lions!

[@jeanfourcade]

Comparing Broncos Baker Mayfield and Panthers Bryce Young is asinine. Baker took the Broncos to the playoffs !

[@bmcilwai]

Why does everyone feel that he has to leave the Panthers. We are attempting to fix the culture we are doing a hard reset

[@haydenlinfoot]

Bryce's chances are basically 0. He's bad and small.

[@erikpoje976]

Maybe. Maybe not. But if Mahomes or Allen were in Carolina rn they would be mediocre at best. Peyton Manning also threw 28 picks his rookie year.

[@lottji]

People said the exact same thing about Mayfield when he got traded. You can never be absolutely certain about these things.

[@troywiggins7383]

Your expansive football experience led you to this conclusion??

[@Shane4462]

Bryce was shell shocked coming outta the first season it was no surprise he came out the way he did our organization is a dumpster fire and Bryce deserves better.

[@edkiely2712]

​@@lottji Baker wasn't even close to this bad! Some guys simply just can't make the transition to the NFL- period! We always are looking for "reasons as to why" but, sometimes it's just not possible for certain players. Paxton Lynch is another one that just couldn't transition!

[@pnuttio]

If he wasnt small and a nice guy they wouldn't be doing all this complaining that he got benched..

[@jayteexiong]

Im all giving him a second chance but he is not accurate and his decision making is terrible, which general manager thought is was good at.

[@bigdogboos1]

0 chance of "bouncing back". he's too short AND small to be a QB in the NFL. some guys are great at college and suck in the NFL (Tebow, Manziel, etc). It's obvious af for anyone that doesn't have emotions tied to it.

[@sethmyers26]

It's not stunning. Did I think it would happen this fast? No. But it's not stunning at all.

[@SomajDaGoat]

Y’all keep talking about all these QBs being draft in bad situations that went on to play better elsewhere. But what you fail to mention is they showed flashes in those bad situations. Bryce has been terrible since the beginning and has shown no improvement.

[@yammt3148]

Get him out of Carolina. See how much he improves. Carolina ruins players. That simple.

[@jkaise42]

Dude you cannot expect a young players to come into the league and be able to be above terrible coaching and one of the worst rosters ever assembled. He needs time

[@adamant5550]

He literally has one of the best offensive lines statistically so far this season. Ranked No. 2 in QB time to throw.

[@paullmight42]

Give Darnold time and he will start seeing ghosts again, teams just need tape......When will Rich stop harping on this? He clearly needed to be benched but when he gets benched it's a travesty?

[@patrickzdanek2681]

Baker said it the best. You need to have the right pieces around you. Young is also on one of the worst teams ethe NFL. Hopefully he can find himself and be that kid he was at Bama.

[@kevinhurley6233]

The statement “He has no help he has no protection” That’s a flat lie. He’s got not 1 but 2 1000 yard WRs a first round wr in XL a decent run game a top 3 pass blocking oline through two games. He’s the problem

[@natesofla8891]

Peyton Manning had a horrible start. He ended up being decent... haha

[@eddiehardin33]

I don’t know why Rich feels the need to defend Young - obviously didn’t watch him play - he lost the fans and obvious he lost the locker room - coaches had no choice to bench him he is really that bad ! Leaf bad as bad as Rosen and Russell ! That bad or worse!!!

[@Schnauzerpatrol]

Tepper is going dig this team into the ground all the way to China. He knew how tall and slender Bryce is. This is his fault. I am done as a Panthers fan. 29 years is a long time. There have been good teams occasionally but Tepper has put the nail in the coffin

[@rickydavis2749]

Bryce Young is to fragile and small for the NFL. Systems sometimes do equate to misinformed assessments of talent. Just saying.

[@lynnglidewell7367]

First of all Young plays for a lousy team. I mean they stink. They're a national embarrassment. If you have them on your schedule you're assured of a win unless you're the New York Giants. If your in the same division with them you're assured of two wins. Did they really expect Young to fix all their problems? Andy Dalton must be out of his mind. He's gonna get hurt.

[@thomasm9139]

He has limited physical skills just to be a below average NFL QB, much less a good one. That will not change.

[@steveosborn7224]

Nice of Baker to say….. But Baker has a canon arm and he’s a dawg. Bryce isn’t a dog and has an average arm and average speed.

[@raven-19x]

Bryce Young has been complete trash with no tangibles.

[@MordecaiandMonroe]

So the number 1 overall pick qb needs all these things to succeed. I think it should be the opposite, you should succeed despite not having all the pieces around you

[@Palefox27]

LOL. He's a toddler. Don't draft a QB up 6 ft. they don't work out often.

[@evandh1989]

Omg get over it. There’s nothing “stunning” about this. The guy has played like trash, has shown no improvement whatsoever, and is getting benched accordingly.

[@whiskeredtuna]

Do these people even know what they’re talking about? Carolina’s offensive line is ranked 2nd in pass blocking and 5th overall right now.

[@mr.intamin1081]

He’s awful at football and is NOT an NFL qb… it’s simple

[@shivpatel8032]

This is just more of the Bryce coddling that I am hearing vs. just achknowledging that he is shitty and misses simple throws

[@CalixtoErico]

Rich is a good man to a fault. BY has played awfully.

[@colemilz]

I feel so bad for Bryce because he didn't deserve to fall to the worst possible option with a talentless team around him. You can blame Bryce all you want but he would not be looking like this if he was in Houston

[@TBrady2289G8O]

Yes he would actually. CJ Stroud did more with less last year and had the best rookie season of all time. Bryce had an awful yards per attempt last year and 4.4 air yards per attempt this year. He doesn’t even try to throw down field it’s literally only bad check downs.

[@colemilz]

@@TBrady2289G8O CJ Stroud had less????Bryces best weapon on offense last year was Adam Theilen. The reason why the yards per attempt was so low because he had no weapons that could create after the catch. I'm not saying Bryce would be doing what CJ Stroud is at all. But he would not be so bad he would be benched week 2 if he was in that situation

[@40EastTrill]

​@@colemilzYou did see where he said 4.4 AIR yards right?

[@colemilz]

@@40EastTrill yes I did. They had 2 running backs as their top 5 catchers last year. When nobody gets open down the field you check the ball down. When you have no time in the pocket you check the ball down. That explains 4.4 air yards

[@colemilz]

@@40EastTrill does Bryce has some blame for that? Absolutely but when you trade DJ Moore and draft capital you are draining assets from a QB that needs a system to succeed. Absolutely brainless from the Panthers

[@TheKurtz404]

unfortunately if youre a black qb youre going to need to be able to win with your legs as well.

[@nunya44288]

first!

[@jebadaiah1228]

2 mins late, bah