Rich Eisen on Mac Jones’ Fall from 1st-Round Pick to Holding a Clipboard Behind Trevor Lawrence

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Rich Eisen comments on the New England Patriots trading former 1st-round draft pick Mac Jones to the Jacksonville Jaguars for just a 6th round draft pick in return.
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@cwag07
@cwag07 6 ай бұрын
Doing the Griddy in the ProBowl is gonna be the highlight of Mac Jones career lol
@Jack958
@Jack958 6 ай бұрын
I mean, I fail to see how that’s necessarily that bad of a thing
@coldwinter5428
@coldwinter5428 6 ай бұрын
@@Jack958it’s not great. He only made it to the pro bowl as like the 7th alternate from the AFC. And the probowl itself is a joke as the game itself has now been completely disbanded by the NFL.
@nikmaciejewski3857
@nikmaciejewski3857 6 ай бұрын
@@coldwinter5428 how many pro bowls you been to big dawg?
@coldwinter5428
@coldwinter5428 6 ай бұрын
@nikmaciejewski3857 The way alternates work nowadays, it could be any day now. The top quarterbacks think the probowl is a joke, so they won't attend.
@melmel7582
@melmel7582 6 ай бұрын
@@coldwinter5428lol ppl keep forgetting he put up good number as a rookie in a stacked Afc Burrow and Allen was the only qbs who played better that didnt play in the pro bowl and mac jones was throwing the ball to shitters all season and they offense was rankes like 7 in the lg with him ppl love to discredit players
@anonymohipp9097
@anonymohipp9097 6 ай бұрын
If Josh McD had stayed in NE, both Mac and Bill might still be there. Bad outcome for all three.
@sinocte
@sinocte 6 ай бұрын
At this point, you have to think that McDaniels will never figure out how to get out of his own way. It's almost impressive how he apparently learned NOTHING from his time in Denver, and did the exact same dumb things with the Raiders.
@clarkkent1521
@clarkkent1521 6 ай бұрын
Like Belichick, McDaniels was only successful when he had Tom.
@michaelcoletta4547
@michaelcoletta4547 6 ай бұрын
​@@sinocte No argument there... but I'll give him credit for making Mac look better than he really was. He's really not a bad offensive coordinator. He will get another job, just never as a head coach.
@michaelcoletta4547
@michaelcoletta4547 6 ай бұрын
​@@clarkkent1521 Not true... he was the worst head coach ever, but had some level of success as an offensive coordinator even with Matt Cassel and Mac Jones (who looked better as a rookie in McDaniels' system than he even came close to looking ever again).
@clarkkent1521
@clarkkent1521 6 ай бұрын
@@michaelcoletta4547 Not really a flex to say McDaniels coached Mac better than Patricia and Judge. The 2008 Matt Cassel season, 11-5 sounds goods if you only look at those numbers, but they missed the playoffs meaning at least 6 teams performed better than them in the conference. They also had the 28th hardest schedule which is a big reason why they were able to get 11 wins. Compare that to 2007 with the 8th hardest schedule and 2009 with the 4th hardest schedule. If Cassel started any other year he doesn't even win 8 games.
@TheAireaidLord
@TheAireaidLord 6 ай бұрын
It's sad how the Patriots failed him. Belichick is to blame for surrounding him with garbage talent and constantly changing his OC. But it's also on Mac. His attitude sucked as things went downhill. I understand how shitty it was, but the constant outbursts and bitching started wearing on me. He also showed no improvements or awareness. He was mentally in his own head all of last year which led to all those picks. He had 1 game all year that was a stellar performance and besides that looked pitiful. Going into last year I was his biggest supporter, but now I'm just happy that the rug and everything else has been ripped up. New coach new QB. I'm ready for what's next
@ohyababyohyea
@ohyababyohyea 6 ай бұрын
Dude plays dirty instead of playing hard. He never had it in him to be a starting QB in the NFL.
@Zoggosh
@Zoggosh 6 ай бұрын
@@ohyababyohyea idk he's started more games than the youtube comment section has so he's been doing something right
@d8l835
@d8l835 6 ай бұрын
​@@Zoggosh that isnt an accomplishment
@bjennings02
@bjennings02 6 ай бұрын
Had a decent rookie year tho
@PlyrMava.
@PlyrMava. 6 ай бұрын
Mac is total garbage. Good riddance
@TedTucholski
@TedTucholski 6 ай бұрын
And the NE offense had NO O-line and NO wide receivers.
@davidlrogers
@davidlrogers 6 ай бұрын
yeah it's sort of frustrating that now all the sudden they're going to finally address those and put a better team around whoever they draft. as a Pats fan, i hope Mac is able to figure it out and show NE that they fucked up. love Bill and i think he tried to piece it back together last year but it was too late; he was trying to build a defense that could carry the offense, and just run the ball, similar formula to the first Pats dynasty, but it was just too little too late. we knew the issues going into the season and he didn't address them. there are other issues, too, losing coaches, scouts, executives etc., and ownership that was increasingly undermining his authority (going behind his back to work with Mayo), but the buck stops with Bill.
@Tsepete
@Tsepete 6 ай бұрын
What does that have to do with that horrific throw in Germany? Or those terrible throws vs the Cowboys, Saints, Raiders and much more. Go back and watch and you will see clean pockets by NFL standards. Terrible throws that cost the team. Interceptions in over 80% of the games when taking a sack or throwing the ball away could have won some of those games. Miss us with that regurgitated no weapons argument. It doesn't excuse the bad decisions.
@clarkkent1521
@clarkkent1521 6 ай бұрын
​​@@TsepeteLet's say you are a regular person working for a company. Not only do they not care about you, they hire two managers that have idea what they are doing and you have to do what they say. They also hire employees to work along side you that you depend on, but they are making your job more difficult. You can't quit and find another job because you are contractually obligated to work there. You are probably going to stop caring and start making a lot of basic mistakes. A lot of people hate their job and stop caring with a lot less than what Mac had to go through. And don't forget the most egotistical COO you've ever seen.
@Tsepete
@Tsepete 6 ай бұрын
@@clarkkent1521 To say Patricia had no idea what he was doing is crazy considering he started his coaching career on offense. He coached offense at both college and professional levels. Just like McDaniels started on defense. The media programmed you to think coaches cannot comprehend the other side of the ball. Even as DC and HC he still had to understand how offense works for him to game plan in addition to his past experience. And offense looked way better when he was calling plays vs when the "real" OC came along. As for Mac, even if all your points were accurate he is still to blame. I have a better analogy. Imagine a pilot who gets rattled and starts to make mistakes because of issues caused by poor maintenance and management. Even if its not his fault, would you want him flying any plane youre on? The point is Mac Jones is not mentally tough enough to be a starting NFL QB. Many successful QBs still made the right decision on game day even though their situations were crappy. No excuses.
@clarkkent1521
@clarkkent1521 6 ай бұрын
@@Tsepete If it's not the pilot's fault, it's not the pilot's fault. The only reason people would be hesitant to hire that pilot is because he is now associated with something negative, even though it wasn't his fault at all. Someone who is falsely accused of rape will always have that association of rape with him, even though he didn't do it. The mishandling by others can forever ruin a person's life that didn't do anything wrong. The school to prison pipeline. If you treat a person like a criminal, they may grow up to be a criminal. And Patricia's highest offensive rank was assistant o-line coach for one year. Not really a stellar offensive resume.
@brianmacadam4793
@brianmacadam4793 6 ай бұрын
Bradshaw has stated how he needed a more supportive coach than what he got. Bradshaw worked out, will Jones recover ?
@TheAcgtrs
@TheAcgtrs 6 ай бұрын
The worst thing that happened to Mac, was Josh McDaniel taking the job in Vegas. The loss of continuity which followed, completely destroyed his potential. 4 coordinators in 3 seasons, that would destroy most any young player.
@aheroictaxidriver3180
@aheroictaxidriver3180 6 ай бұрын
Dude played football his entire life; he was young when he was 8.
@DrumBum561
@DrumBum561 6 ай бұрын
What a historically bad QB class: Zach Wilson (sucked, trying to get traded) Trey Lance (got hurt, replace by Purdy, traded) Mac Jones (sucked, traded) Justin Field (sucked, will get traded/replaced by Caleb Williams) Kyle Trask (barely played, backup) Kellen Mond (barely played, backup) Davis Mills (sucked, backup) Ian Book (barely played, clipboard holder). Only Lawrence has had any sort of success
@JMichael-xc7uu
@JMichael-xc7uu 6 ай бұрын
Good point and im not even sure about Trevor Lawerance being more than average-
@DrumBum561
@DrumBum561 6 ай бұрын
his rookie season was a wash because of Meyer. Second season he did well. But last year I was thoroughly unimpressed.@@JMichael-xc7uu
@jeanfourcade
@jeanfourcade 6 ай бұрын
Terrifying, when laid out like that 👍
@t.k.1319
@t.k.1319 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@johnchedsey1306
@johnchedsey1306 6 ай бұрын
Lance, Jones and Fields *might* still have a chance to develop into decent starters. No guarantees, of course, but I don't think we can close the book on them after 3 years. Especially with Jones and Fields being bad situations. Wilson, on the other hand, just looks like a 7th rounder who accidentally got selected overall. (That might ultimately apply to Lance, too)
@lioneaglegriffin
@lioneaglegriffin 6 ай бұрын
Rich really knows how to weave a narrative. He's a modern day bard. It's Art. And football is lucky to have him.
@jerischopp6998
@jerischopp6998 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely Correct
@gwynnblade9160
@gwynnblade9160 6 ай бұрын
Very sad indeed how he was failed by the organization, and it happens to so many players. The lazy take is to say he sucks, but the nuance is he looked great his first year with a solid offensive staff, and was set up to fail his second year with the joke of an offensive staff assembled by the team.
@azanocegrog748
@azanocegrog748 6 ай бұрын
I feel bad for Mac. I feel like he’s one of those guys who wouldve been really good in the right situation
@ThespianAJB
@ThespianAJB 6 ай бұрын
Rich is as solid a news hound, and with his posse bringing up the end... Rich Eisen is getting to be my favorite non-stop news setter for sports.
@noelv1976
@noelv1976 6 ай бұрын
It couldn’t have happened to a better guy like Jones. Talking all that trash in his rookie season, kicking players on the crotch, over confident 😂
@JasonBrown-z5y
@JasonBrown-z5y 4 ай бұрын
Amen
@lagodifuoco313
@lagodifuoco313 6 ай бұрын
Rich Eisen is by far the best sports media man out there!!!❤
@leonh.kalayjian6556
@leonh.kalayjian6556 6 ай бұрын
Rich is amazing at how he commands the story, how he doesn’t stumble and portrays events beat for beat, with emotion and humor.
@JuanTorres-hv5ig
@JuanTorres-hv5ig 6 ай бұрын
M.Jones & T. Lawrence were 2020 Heisman Trophy finalists along with K. Trask who held a clipboard for the G.O.A.T.
@mistanderson
@mistanderson 6 ай бұрын
Mannnnnnnn Mac Jones had Cam Newton players his first year. Those players were free agents came for Cam. Mac Jones in Alabama had talent around him.
@DKO2023
@DKO2023 6 ай бұрын
Remember pats fans comparing him with TB12
@obi2fred
@obi2fred 6 ай бұрын
I love the praise for Christian Kirk. Had him on a fantasy team when he was in Arizona and damn I am a fan lol, totally in his corner on him being a sneaky good receiver
@elizabethgodfrey1033
@elizabethgodfrey1033 6 ай бұрын
IMO, Mac Jones could’ve help push Cam Newton out too quick. Bill B said Cam was the Starter up until the day b4 they brutally cut him on last cut day after he was re-signed. Cam wasn’t as bad as the Boston Media depicted him, & not all of his total work was never reported to ESPN. The ESPN representatives didn’t help Cam like they did Mac . Cam won 7-8, 66% completion, 3200 total yds, & had 21 total tds. Cam also broke records, as a Patriot & tied a Rushing td record of 12 held by Plunkett. He is 1st QB to have a Receiving td, won the 2020, Boston Media Award for his untiring dedication, 1st Black QB1 to be the Starter for an entire year, etc. Boston Media was mad Brady left, so they took a lot of their anger out on Cam. Cam inherited a team from Bray with: 8 opt outs, only 1 top receiver, no TEnds, 4 top players got hurt, Covid outbreak, etc. Cam signed mid July, 2020. He had no Preseason or Training Camp. He had only 5 wks to get ready for season opening in September. Cam did well considering the disaster he got and the 1st to follow Brady. Bill gave Cam mostly a Practice Squad to replace injured players. Cam got resigned in March, 2021. The team got 170 Million upgrade in Weapons. Kraft said Cam never got a fair chance. He would get them in yr 2. Kraft changed his mind, & switched all of them to Mac. The competition was the biggest HOAX
@elizabethgodfrey1033
@elizabethgodfrey1033 6 ай бұрын
..! Mac Jones got 3Xs more chances to play in practice & in the Preseason. Cam held to it that Mac Jones never did beat him. It was never even. Cam said he saw the trend of how it was set for Mac . Boston Media wrote up Mac beat Cam. It’s recorded in top records, but it’s false, & a hoax.. As a fan, I’m proud of how Cam handle it all. He didn’t throw nobody under the bus, Patriots nor Mac Jones. I hope he continues to do it, too. 💕❤️💕🙏☮️
@Alph12
@Alph12 6 ай бұрын
He was to immature and lost the locker room, doing that little dance I mean dude really, and the dirty moves! I think this will help him grow in so many ways and now hopefully he will get another chance
@kelvinsekwati4016
@kelvinsekwati4016 6 ай бұрын
Kudos to this show for pushing positivity. I had been watching the nfl for 3 or 4 years when this draft happened. But even i knew that was a horrendous choice to put the opposite side of coaches for your 2nd year qb
@lacoleccionperfecto
@lacoleccionperfecto 6 ай бұрын
Tom Brady didn’t need no damn sprinkles.
@CharlieHepp
@CharlieHepp 6 ай бұрын
It's sad how the Patriots failed him. Belichick is to blame for surrounding him with garbage talent and constantly changing his OC. But it's also on Mac. His attitude sucked as things went downhill. I understand how shitty it was, but the constant outbursts and bitching started wearing on me. He also showed no improvements or awareness. He was mentally in his own head all of last year which led to all those picks. He had 1 game all year that was a stellar performance and besides that looked pitiful. Going into last year I was his biggest supporter, but now I'm just happy that the rug and everything else has been ripped up. New coach new QB. I'm ready for what's next It's nice in a way, where he gets to reset his headspace back in his hometown of Jacksonville - reminds him where it all got started, maybe it rejuvenates his spirit honestly. A year back at home could do his soul wonders The ice cream lines made me cackle Shout out Shaker Heights! Rich still acting like the Jets signing Rodgers meant that Wilson would never have to start as if Rodgers is a 40-year-old lunatic LMFAO If Josh McD had stayed in NE, both Mac and Bill might still be there. your bad outcome for all three. Mac just needs a coach who understands the offense, Billy wasn’t that guy What a historically bad QB class: Zach Wilson (sucked, trying to get replaced by Caleb Williams traded) and Davis Mills (sucked, backup) Trey Lance (got hurt, replaced by, and traded) Kyle Trask (barely played, backup) Mac Jones (sucked, traded) replace Justin Field (sucked, will get traded/replaced by Purdy,) Kellen Mond (barely played, backup) Ian Book (barely played, clipboard holder). Only Lawrence has had any sort of success The Pats finished the 2021 season losing 3 of 4. They started the season losing 3 of 4. The teams they beat leading up to the playoff blowout loss were losers all year. My question is. Was Mac as good as the record suggests? No. Teams figured him out. It's not a surprise BB tried to trade him because he saw Mac's ceiling at the same time other teams figured him out. Where is the criticism for Belichick ruining this guy's career? Belichick genuinely set this guy up to fail by his 2nd year. Man Mac Johns was so overhyped and still is Mac was fined for dirty plays and no one liked him. Stop making excuses for him. He brought a lot on himself. Bill destroyed this kid. Mac was a very good QB with the right coaching but Bill's ego was too much. I am glad no team wants him I have no sympathy for Jones this is what he gets for being cocky and arrogant Trevor Lawrence's first season definitely counts. He played every single game and they were bad. We never said don't count any of the Lions / Browns/ Cardinals/ '70s Bucs because they were absolutely terrible. Nah, he played that entire season just like every other QB who had a bad/great season. He played, the Jags played, and they were awful... It was an absolutely terrible season but it counted lol. To not count it would be ridiculous and completely unfair to all of the other bad teams that played that season. His first season counts. stop it lol. Trevor needs to watch his back because for all the talk about him being this generational talent...he hasn't done anything Can y’all stop Matt Jones isn’t that good of a quarterback to start in the NFL Hey y’all not removing seasons from Mac Jones and Zach Wilson bad situations. Why are y’all completely removing a rookie season where he played like crap? No, you count that junk just the same What does it mean? Is he taking Trevor’s spot? 11701-60 San Jose Blvd, Jacksonville, FL 32223 Good ice cream there hello somebody there make a call.....
@derkohler2380
@derkohler2380 6 ай бұрын
fingers crossed for poor little mac! 🤗
@scottle6
@scottle6 6 ай бұрын
The scariest thing is how similar jones and Lawrence’s career stats are….not in a good way
@clarkkent1521
@clarkkent1521 6 ай бұрын
Kirk Cousins has equal to or better passing stats than Josh Allen.
@albertpierce9891
@albertpierce9891 6 ай бұрын
Yeah now go look at just their stats from the last 2 years, and one is clearly better than the other.
@baydawg
@baydawg 6 ай бұрын
@@albertpierce9891both profoundly disappointing and incredibly average.
@danielcahill5997
@danielcahill5997 3 ай бұрын
Not one mention of the atrocious offensive line and average at best skills? Last year he played mostly with a revolving door of guys drafted in the 6th round or later… what nfl team does that? No others…
@DrOranj
@DrOranj 6 ай бұрын
I still can't hear Nick Folk's name without wanting to yell "PUT YOUR HEAD DOWN!!"
@darnell16player
@darnell16player 6 ай бұрын
Mac Jones needs people who not only understand offense but get his confidence back up. Plus his receivers got to have separation and had a terrible offensive line and no help, even in the backfield there was no threat
@TheGoatAntichrist
@TheGoatAntichrist 6 ай бұрын
The ice cream bit made me LOL😂
@deliliankramo7520
@deliliankramo7520 6 ай бұрын
Chris Brockman again being a casual "if you throw the stats up with no names Max Jones and Trevor stats look identical" bruh haven’t you learned already ? You were saying the same thing with Russ and Pat, and Lamar with Pat and then worse of all that Purdy was better than Pat solely based on stats. Again typical analyst just reading stats and not watch the games.
@johnjay7822
@johnjay7822 6 ай бұрын
I hear ya. We all want Willy Wonka as a coach. Maybe Doug can sing him a song too. "Come with me, and you'll see, an offensive scheme of pure imagination..."
@stevengraham3138
@stevengraham3138 6 ай бұрын
How does a team get worse and worse they ruined Mac wow
@alexshirley6096
@alexshirley6096 6 ай бұрын
Arrogance and Entitlement always comes back to bite you at some point Mac jones is learning that the hard way
@elscruffomcscruffy8371
@elscruffomcscruffy8371 6 ай бұрын
As will Caleb Williams
@deucefoAM206
@deucefoAM206 6 ай бұрын
Wait a second, if Mac just needs someone to put their arm around him, how tf did he play for Nick Saban?!
@sadpatsfan01
@sadpatsfan01 6 ай бұрын
He had sark
@dieudonnerdemoncul
@dieudonnerdemoncul 6 ай бұрын
attitude problem he better get use to being a back up...that's what he is
@hugonnava
@hugonnava 6 ай бұрын
Kenny picket fell quicker, I imagine he's not gonna start ahead of hurts. When mac was drafted, they said he might be the best qb, and it was a perfect marriage between him and belichik.
@Lancer78x
@Lancer78x 6 ай бұрын
ah man Kenny Picket analogy did not age well lol...
@albertpierce9891
@albertpierce9891 6 ай бұрын
Im tried of this Mac and Lawrence's stats are similar narrative. The last two years, Lawrence is head and shoulders above Mac. All Mac has is a season 3 years ago that he's never gotten close to since.
@eanc4644
@eanc4644 6 ай бұрын
Man, Rich Eison is a legend.
@TomGarcia-g8w
@TomGarcia-g8w 6 ай бұрын
If mac gets cut then 49ers?
@jimwerther
@jimwerther 6 ай бұрын
Matt Patricia lol
@jamesr2547
@jamesr2547 6 ай бұрын
His play declined after the "wind" game against Buffalo when Mac only passed the ball 3 or 4 times.That was 2/3s of the way through his rookie season. He is a good player but his character was not developed to the point where he could succeed in the league. In a year or two he could become excellent if he matures. Or he could sulk and disappear into oblivion.
@WhyxMustxIxCry
@WhyxMustxIxCry 6 ай бұрын
The title of this video is out of pocket lol
@ax7160
@ax7160 6 ай бұрын
What a devious title for this video lmaooo
@jaywilliams8608
@jaywilliams8608 6 ай бұрын
Rich Not hearing much about Michigan Basketball… how come?? 🤡🤡🤡
@gregoryschmidt1922
@gregoryschmidt1922 6 ай бұрын
Welcome to QB purgatory.
@clayjr86
@clayjr86 6 ай бұрын
Cam Newton 😒🙄😮‍💨 "The guy, after the guy."
@stavyjoe
@stavyjoe 6 ай бұрын
Environment matters
@stevengraham3138
@stevengraham3138 6 ай бұрын
Well Mac got 15 million and counting fall from grace should send up with 20-25 million or more when done may bad for a fall from grace lol
@Mike-f8r8z
@Mike-f8r8z 6 ай бұрын
funny how the greatest coach of all time gets no grief for picking mac.haha😂 but rich and bill have the same talent agency, so rich cant talk bad about bill 😂😂
@raystravels9830
@raystravels9830 6 ай бұрын
Proof that Bill Belichick has been overrated all along...... Brady made all the difference, He made lesser talent look great, inspired and motivated everybody. Once Brady was gone, Bill got exposed, always wanted all the credit to himself, with no merit . There's a reason why he's out of a job and nobody calling.
@AJFar-tm7dn
@AJFar-tm7dn 6 ай бұрын
Yup, good post. Bill's arrogance and hubris. He was laid bare for the NFL fans to see. I'm a 50 some year Patriot fan from New England.
@PoloJuan103
@PoloJuan103 6 ай бұрын
NFL backup QB? easily the best job in pro sports! Get paid for 10 years with no expectations 😂
@Nun-b1m
@Nun-b1m 6 ай бұрын
That was beautiful at the end haha
@hawkgofins
@hawkgofins 6 ай бұрын
And he has a small heart, he never return Tua greedings since they are in the NFL
@hatuletoh
@hatuletoh 6 ай бұрын
"The Jests did everything in their power to ensure Zach Wilson didn't start a game for them in 2023"? What the hell are you talking about? The signed Aaron Rodgers, who went down on the first drive of the first game, and then the Jets did nothing. Well, I suppose eventually they benched Wilson for some dude whose name I can't even remember, but that was just the usual Jets braintrust's (and I use the term very loosely) half-assed reaction to the completely correct accusations of that they--the "braintrust"--hadn't given any thought to what they were going to do if their 40 year old qb wasn't able to play every snap of the 2023 season. That was just a very tardy reaction, however. They did nothing at all proactive to keep Wilson from having to start, like, say, signing an unemployed former Jets qb named Joe Flacco, or working out a trade in the half of a season's time they had to do so before the deadline. In other words, the Jets didn't do the two most important and effective things they should have done if their goal was to keep Wilson from having to start after Rodgers got hurt. Not that it really matters--Zach Wilson is not and never will be good enough to play qb1 in the nfl, but it's patently false to say "the Jets did all they could."
@mikethomas3069
@mikethomas3069 6 ай бұрын
Coaching might have sucked .. he's still threw the ball off his back foot and no anticipation..
@nickt8148
@nickt8148 6 ай бұрын
Rich still acting like the Jets signing Rodgers meant that Wilson would never have to start as if Rodgers it's a 40 year old lunatic lmfao
@Sirpepperoneee1stofhisname
@Sirpepperoneee1stofhisname 6 ай бұрын
You can put all the frosting on a turd but it still gonna taste like a turd. Millionaire qb needs a hug? We all need a hug at times, but at work???? C'mon. More likely that qb class isn't that good. You're not guaranteed to be a superstar qb just cuz you were drafted in the 1st. Plus he was the 5th qb taken cuz the pats, I mean the owner, were desperate to stay relevant.
@Rattlehead415
@Rattlehead415 6 ай бұрын
Trevor Lawrence first season definitely counts. He played every single game and they were bad. We never said don't count any of the Lions/Browns/Cardinals/70s Bucs because they were absolutely terrible. Nah, he played that entire season just like every other QB who had a bad/great season. He played, the Jags played, and they were awful... It was an absolutely terrible season but it counted lol. To not count it would be ridiculous and completely unfair to all of the other bad teams that played that season. His first season counts. stop it lol.
@that_tall_guy_
@that_tall_guy_ 6 ай бұрын
Let's be real. The pats ruined his career
@aheroictaxidriver3180
@aheroictaxidriver3180 6 ай бұрын
Corky Jones.
@ryanstevenson1364
@ryanstevenson1364 6 ай бұрын
He started lookin like sht by late November his rookie year
@TheMrplayitsafe
@TheMrplayitsafe 6 ай бұрын
He never really had the arm, the speed, or the ability to comprehensively understand the offense. McDaniels made it easy for him but it never had longevity that way. Plus, he's a bit of a brat tbh. Bad for the locker room.
@SodiumWage
@SodiumWage 6 ай бұрын
The Patriots let Mac Jones down, not the other way around.
@robertrobert8325
@robertrobert8325 6 ай бұрын
Rich he landed where he should of coach peterson will clean his clock out and rewind it the kid can play ball when he's right 😏😉🤞
@Fumbles9001
@Fumbles9001 6 ай бұрын
Y’all are talking about him like he’s a 12 year old boy who needs coddling and hugs and not a 25 year old man who needs to grow up…
@topgunpr
@topgunpr 6 ай бұрын
11701-60 San Jose Blvd, Jacksonville, FL 32223 good ice cream there.....
@edwardjjanzen23
@edwardjjanzen23 6 ай бұрын
i have to lay the blame on belichick for ruining this first round pick. no one else. reason? the same reason why belichick thought brady was no more than a system quarterback. belichick was the star in his own eyes. he could do the same with any quarterback, or so he thought. how has that worked out for you, bill? mac jones behind trevor lawrence is a good move for the jags and for jones. jones needs time to put back the pieces belichick discarded. my instincts suggest that jones will yet become the quarterback that saban saw in him. he will rise from the ashes. if trevor gets hurt, if jones gets enough time; mr lawrence may be the jags drew bledsoe. not saying that jones will rise to brady's status, but this is the nfl, and when quarterbacks are given a chance, the starter often eventually finds himself working elsewhere.
@paulmd7747
@paulmd7747 6 ай бұрын
Patricia shouldn't be a coach in the NFL. Bill Bellichick is a glorified DC that can't win without the GOAT at QB. Any other HC putting a defensive coach in charge of the offense and with the total failure in the draft would be run out of town with pitchforks.
@BrEmail
@BrEmail 6 ай бұрын
.... and torches
@patrickbarry6273
@patrickbarry6273 6 ай бұрын
Not into soorts like i used to be, but appreciate REs reasonable volume and lack of desire to tear down - unlike most modern sports mouth-runners.
@philiptan5814
@philiptan5814 6 ай бұрын
thank god. Mac jones sucked so bad. Mcdaniels did his best to keep the training wheels on. Once they were off man he sucked. he shouldve never been drafted in the first round
@michaelyoung9628
@michaelyoung9628 6 ай бұрын
Can y’all stop Matt jones isn’t that good of an quarterback to start in the NFL
@kaptainkush4351
@kaptainkush4351 6 ай бұрын
I am just glad he is out of NE!
@dominicpecze1194
@dominicpecze1194 6 ай бұрын
This has gotta be one of the best sports talk show tbh 👏
@northwestkidmarc
@northwestkidmarc 6 ай бұрын
Fr 🎉
@thewalkingjed4893
@thewalkingjed4893 6 ай бұрын
Get a room!
@dominicpecze1194
@dominicpecze1194 6 ай бұрын
@@northwestkidmarc lol fair
@lagodifuoco313
@lagodifuoco313 6 ай бұрын
💯
@Fantasyremix
@Fantasyremix 6 ай бұрын
Rich is goated
@christianknight7120
@christianknight7120 6 ай бұрын
Belichick said him up to fail after McDaniels left. One of the most dumbfounding decisions ever to give him two OCs neither of which had prior experience to calling an offense was just downright stupid
@adrian33161
@adrian33161 6 ай бұрын
The ice cream lines made me cackle
@SnappingTurtle444
@SnappingTurtle444 6 ай бұрын
😌 In all seriousness, Mack will be competing for that job b/c Pederson is on the hot seat, and may flourish in that West Coast system - camp will tell it all ... Another scenario could be if Lawrence gets injured and Mack gets provides a spark. 🍿👀🏈
@deathpigguitars
@deathpigguitars 6 ай бұрын
😂 "and . . . . do you like vanilla?" 🤣👍🏼 Wonderful, Mr Eisen, LOL gets way overused but you really did make me, so loudly it made me laugh again!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😆
@madnessontheisland
@madnessontheisland 6 ай бұрын
Mac just needs some time to learn from sane, competent people for a change much like Trevor did after the Urban Experiment. The two have a lot in common, and Peterson is the right guy to manage it.
@TeezyHadaBaby
@TeezyHadaBaby 6 ай бұрын
Too much stock in Alabama QB who played with a Hiesman WR
@TheyCallMeSwo
@TheyCallMeSwo 6 ай бұрын
Rich is so awesome! He is not just a “best dad”; he’s good people. And he’s right, especially in today’s world.
@issakakish3904
@issakakish3904 6 ай бұрын
Bill destroy this kid. Mac was a very good QB with the right coaching but Bill's ego was too much. I am glad no team wants him
@t.k.1319
@t.k.1319 6 ай бұрын
What exactly was “very good” about him the one season he wasn’t horrible?
@evanfortunato2382
@evanfortunato2382 6 ай бұрын
The endzone interception against the colts would have ended the career of any quarterback over 30 years old
@AgentGold-AI
@AgentGold-AI 6 ай бұрын
00:00 🏈 NFL stories and legendary moments 00:42 ⚡ Jones' memorable entry in the 2021 NFL Draft 01:13 🌟 M Jones' early success and struggles 02:05 🍁 Memories from the Patriots vs Chargers game 02:47 🎉 M Jones makes it to the playoffs and Pro Bowl 03:23 📉 The downturn in M Jones' performance 04:13 🔄 M Jones' trade and its implications 05:09 🏠 M Jones heads to Jacksonville 05:54 🔍 Comparing Trevor Lawrence and M Jones' stats 06:43 🚀 Peterson's confidence in reviving M Jones 08:49 🍫 The "Urban Meyer experiment" critique 09:38 🏆 Trevor Lawrence's playoff resilience 10:14 🏈 Injuries impacting players during the Jacksonville Bills game 10:51 🤝 The strong relationship between Trevor Lawrence and Christian Kirk 11:25 🔍 Criticism of Christian Kirk's move from Arizona to Jacksonville 11:40 💬 Debate over Trevor Lawrence's performance 11:51 🚀 Mack Jones's potential influence on Trevor Lawrence 12:44 🍦 Doug Peterson's unique ice cream Saturdays for Jacksonville players 13:01 🤗 Doug Peterson's supportive coaching style for Mack Jones Key Moments by Agent Gold AI
@eddievangundy4510
@eddievangundy4510 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, saved a listen.
@RichardPatrick84
@RichardPatrick84 6 ай бұрын
Not only is this an awesome sports program, but it also has a solid community. Most comment sections are bickering, trolling messes. This one is more positive and you can actually chat sports. Keep your sticks on the ice folks.
@plutobaby9996
@plutobaby9996 6 ай бұрын
They set him up to fail, fresh off Brady’s legendary career in NE, big shoes to fill and he had arguably reached his ceiling very quickly
@GuanesWorld
@GuanesWorld 6 ай бұрын
Bill screwed mac over big time. And mac didnt help at all.
@jonwick1gm574
@jonwick1gm574 6 ай бұрын
Where is the criticism for Belichick ruining this guy's career? Belichick genuinely set this guy up to fail by his 2nd year.
@coreydias9635
@coreydias9635 6 ай бұрын
Mac=bust. Stop exaggerating his rookie year. He can’t play
@nexigram
@nexigram 6 ай бұрын
You can talk about the Pats and Bill destroying this kid all you want, but it’s Mac Jones’s decision making that doomed him. He chose to throw those unbelievably bad interceptions. He chose to kick a grown man in the balls when a play didn’t go his way. He chose to bitch and moan and show his teammates and coaches up on the field. Almost every first round QB taken in the history of the league has coaching turmoil around him; you’re not picking that high because you got a stable nurturing environment on your team. Mac Jones just needs to grow up if he wants to make it in this league.
@auston781
@auston781 6 ай бұрын
Man Mac johns was so overhyped and still is
@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo
@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo 6 ай бұрын
How is he overhyped though? Just about everyone says/ knows he aint it lol
@auston781
@auston781 6 ай бұрын
@@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo easy he should never been a pro bowler I think 3 vets said no to it, so his only pro bowl was a participant award. And I’ve never seen a qb heathy the whole game and throw 3 passes. People are still talking about him,
@ILuvRum
@ILuvRum 6 ай бұрын
Belichick intentionally sabotaged Jones after Jones disrespected him over Belichick hiring his failed coaching buddies Judge and Patricia and then tasked the former special teams coordinator and defensive coordinator with running the offense. Belichick is a very vindictive person. He gave up a Superbowl to placate his ego when he retaliated against Malcom Butler, and the divorce with Brady was due to Belichicks vanity and ego as well. It is very easy to see this.
@treborheminway3814
@treborheminway3814 6 ай бұрын
Mac needs a few years to grow up and hopefully become a leader of men. He did ok the first year, but he also had a lot of help facing some weak competition that gave false hope. Hence the drumming the bills have the team that year in the playoffs.
@luism8130
@luism8130 6 ай бұрын
He was never good, the media overrated him..
@karenhardie1132
@karenhardie1132 6 ай бұрын
Mac was fined for dirty plays and no one liked him. Stop making excuses for him. He brought a lot on himself.
@coldwinter5428
@coldwinter5428 6 ай бұрын
Mac Jones making a pro bowl his rookie year is so overplayed. It wasn’t an achievement worth noting. He only made the pro bowl because several better quarterbacks said to themselves, “I’m not going to that joke of a game”. Lots of bad to meh quarterbacks have made it to a pro bowl for the same reason. Unless you were one of the top 3 quarterbacks voted to the pro bowl it shouldn’t be brought up.
@MeiA-h9r
@MeiA-h9r 6 ай бұрын
The way Bill’s time ended at New England and after watching Dynasty and the way he talked to to even HoF players in team meetings Bill ain’t never gonna be a head coach in the NFL again There’s no way the players of today are playing for a guy like that, they’re just not built or thick skinned enough like that.
@joeperkins-macdonald2184
@joeperkins-macdonald2184 6 ай бұрын
As a patriots fan I am so excited to see what we get with that 6th round pick. I would have given up mac for the 6th round pick we'll have in 2027. Guys an f'n loser
@johnadams5489
@johnadams5489 6 ай бұрын
I watched some of the NE games when Jones started his first season, he played well. I think that Bill B is a difficult coach to play for. He was not nice to Brady and Tom Left NE shortly after their last meeting with Bill B and the owner. BB is NOT a nice man.
@skevincampbell
@skevincampbell 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, he looked OK, on all those behind the line of scrimmage throws. The ones that went past the line of scrimmage, went less the 5 yards. He only went to the Pro Bowl, because several picked in front of him didn’t want to go.
@alexandercoleman7899
@alexandercoleman7899 6 ай бұрын
Mac was a bit overrated
@undisputedtruth4954
@undisputedtruth4954 6 ай бұрын
He was a 1st round pick because he played for Alabama, not because he was worthy of being a 1st round qb1. Dude is a bum.
@miamivice1149
@miamivice1149 6 ай бұрын
The fall... Bellychick. If one is not Tom Brady, he cannot overcome that level of antiquity and totalitarianism
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