Richard Feldman - Exploring elm-spa-example

[@nelsonc5339]

“Definitely don’t spoon chicken...”

[@LourensRolograaf]

I like the soup-salad-chicken theorem

[@striker865]

You know, anytime I expose Msg in any kind of library code, I wind up regretting it. And it's also a really big newbie trap... I wonder if Evan is considering making that a new package rule, like, packages allow Debug.todo, it'd make sense to now allow security breach's from Msg as well.

[@dieSpinnt]

That was a good joke about the dependencies, comparing it to somewhat with a process footprint of kilobytes and then bragging over the 10% reduction he did. Ignoring the Browser, the Elm compiler and the whole JavaScript mess this ecosystem is based on as dependency, is a form of art, too.

[@a0um]

I wish he advised to just use bare hands for the chicken. :(

[@mskiptr]

Well, imho the only case when getting new dependencies for everything would be acceptable, would be if we had formal verification of all that code. I mean if we wanted get an external sorting implementation it would need a type like (Ord a, Sorted ys) => [a] - > (ys::[a]) and would need to be typechecked for totality.

[@mskiptr]

Also, there is a great example in the presentation - if the library operates on strings then it won't do any IO. Using types we can limit the vulnerabilities and potentially even eliminate them.

[@AdamSchelenbergCom]

Medium - Conduit ? What is the pun? I don't understand.

[@poparasan]

(Wikipedia) A conduit, in esoterism, and spiritual discourse, is a specific object, person, location, or process (such as engaging in a séance or entering a trance) which allows a person to connect or communicate with a spiritual realm, metaphysical energy, or spiritual entity, or vice versa. Medium is another name for that kind of person.

[@AdamSchelenbergCom]

@@poparasan Thanks for clarifying.

[@mskiptr]

I'm pretty sure it's more about these definitions: Medium - The materials or empty space through which signals, waves or forces pass. Conduit - A means by which something is transmitted. (en.wiktionary.org)

[@DrJohnPollard]

I thought we were going to see a real app.

[@mskiptr]

I thought it will be about an app used by some health resort xD