Proline Pro MT 4x4 "First Launch!!!" durability test and setup talk...

First part of a another super FUN group bash, focusing on the new Proline Pro MT 4x4. Sorry for complaining, but build quality issues really frustrated me last night and I wanted to give people a heads up. Big shout out to Jeff and Gary from KillerOffRoadHobbyz for making the drive down. Gary had no issues with his Proline MT, but his solder came loose and ended his run. Definitely digging this little ripper, just need to adjust to its sensitivities and maybe tone down the brake some. Much more footage to share soon. There were some big to HUGE airs going down.

[@painintherc7771]

Dam that's one crazy basher bro ive never seen anything fly through the air quite like that little beast! Man it's fast! Hats off to you brother for going out big off the bat like that it was an awesome introduction of the mt4x4 for sure..........and we all know you gotta go out and break parts to start with on any RC! 👌👍👊 bummer about the quality issues, gotta admit i didn't see that coming from proline!! Hope they sort you out bro, at least it's all on file here for them to see and im sure they're watching! 👌👍🤘🤙✌👊

[@richduperbash2966]

Pain in the RC thanks so much brother!!! This little rig is serious FUN no doubt. I figured out what happened to the pillow ball Delrin cups thanks to TheChainsaw10👍👍. The pillow ball nut rubs on the spinning inner wheel hex if it isn't completely seated into the hub and superheats it until the Delrin cup melts!!! Proline is aware of the issue now I'm told. Going to try TA RC8T hex extenders soon. At least I know I broke the truck this time with a bad jump...Lol. Still impressed with it so far. 🙋🙋😱😲😲😲😵😎💪💪👊👊

[@dynamodayak]

Dude...you're an RC Air God!

[@richduperbash2966]

dynamodayak ngieng thanks so much brother, had a great time out there with the guys no doubt!!!🙋🙋😲😲😲😵😨😎💪👊👊

[@juantabby4787]

Holy moly that’s huge👍👍👍 you and Kevin Talbot always make me smile With these videos

[@richduperbash2966]

Don’t fling your dookie at me thanks so much brother, really appreciate hearing that!!! Happy bashing my friend!!!🙋🙋😲😲😲😵😱😨😎💪👊👊

[@Fiaudiodude]

Really enjoy watching you push your RCs to the limit. Great bash video Rich

[@richduperbash2966]

MassiveCloudz thanks so much brother, I much enjoy seeing what these little Beasts are capable of!!! Regret doing that ill timed jump at the end, but safety first...Lol. I'm impressed with this little rig so far. Happy bashing as always!!!🙋🙋😵😵😵😲😱😨😎💪👊👊

[@MRBRUSHLESS]

Awesome video very nice bashing trucks a Beast great job thumbs up 👍👍👍

[@richduperbash2966]

MRBRUSHLESS thanks so much brother!!! Appreciate it as always my friend.😀🙋🙋😵😵😵😲😎💪👊👊

[@noeysfastrc3291]

That was awesome bashing you were on it the whole time. You are a basher for sure. Great control of the truck when in line of sight. I’m impressed with your channel I sub brother.

[@richduperbash2966]

Noeys FastRc thanks so much brother!!! Sorry I missed your message. This little rig is BADASS. Fixed it and took it out again for a solid hard run at a big BMX track bash and am blown away at the speed, handling, and durability. Yes, it has some kinks to work out no doubt, but can honestly say this is the funnest, most capable 1/10th I've ever driven. Hoping to post vid soon my friend. Happy bashing, really appreciate the kind words bro!!!🙋🙋😲😲😲😵😨😎💪👊👊

[@trentmarlowe7655]

And it had every right to be scared man. Awesome air as always mate. At least it knows what it's in for know. Looked like a blast.

[@richduperbash2966]

Trent Marlowe LMAO!!! Thanks so much brother, it was an absolute blast. Bummer that Tdogg had to work 😥. We caught some sick airs with the other rigs. Looking forward to seeing Gary's vids and loading more footage myself soon.👍👍😀😨😵😵😲😎💪👊👊

[@seanhatch4425]

What's up Rich hope you feel better bro. Thanks for the video.

[@richduperbash2966]

Sean Hatch thanks so much brother, really appreciate that. I'm still trying to catch up on sleep, but definitely feeling better. 👍👍🍻😵😵😵😱😲😎💪👊👊

[@kizzelgarrett8251]

Both of my favorite RC brother together doing the dam thang awesome 👊💯

[@richduperbash2966]

Kizzel Garrett thanks SO much brother!!! Had a KILLER time out there with Jeff and Gary. Still missed Tdogg😥. He's not missing the next one...Lol!!!😵😵😵😱😲😲😎💪👊👊

[@coreykurtz1404]

Sweet bash, now I see why Gary didn't have the losi raffle tonight, he was having a blast with you! Lol I'm not sold on the proline truck but it definitely flies right!

[@richduperbash2966]

corey kurtz thanks brother, it was great to see Gary again, been awhile since our last bash. We spent a decent chunk of time doing repairs...Lol.. but it was KILLER fun!!! Yeah it's a cool frigging 1/10th, but 1/8 still reigns supreme. Very tricky little basher, I'm impressed with it so far. It's definitely fun to drive. Much more footage to load. The Teknos were out in full force and the Kraton with 1730kv 4092/Monster X was badass in the dirt!!! Happy bashing brother.🙋🙋😱😲😲😵😎💪👊👊

[@12R1rcbashr]

Awesome bash brother that sux your dealing with these little problem man she seems to be though💪hope she stays together I'm lookin forward to gettin one that yellow truck is bad ass😲 bro very nice hope you feel better my friend til next time happy bud🖒🖒🙈🙉🙊👊✌

[@richduperbash2966]

12R1 thanks so much brother!!! Still feeling a bit tattered/run down. She's a tough little truck no doubt. Should have her further dialed in very soon. Happy bashing brother!!!🙋🙋😵😵😵😲😨😎💪👊👊

[@SteelCityRC]

Nice truck!! Seems pretty light. That spot is bashers paradise!!! Awesome!!

[@richduperbash2966]

Gorley's RC Garage thanks brother!!! Definitely a lightweight, but cool little BEAST. Pretty challenging to bash overpowered, but definitely FUN... Lol!!! 🙋🙋😱😵😵😵😲😎💪👊👊

[@amistry2092]

Great bash dude!! Looks like a solid truck!! I wish I had one!!

[@richduperbash2966]

Amistry20 thanks so much brother, very kind of you. Yeah I'm impressed so far with this little bugger. Just need to work out some kinks. Happy Bashing my friend. 🙋🙋😨😵😵😵😲😎💪👊👊

[@kizzelgarrett8251]

Nice video RC brother's

[@killeroffroadhobbyz]

So sick and so so SOOOO much fun, twas and epic day for sure

[@richduperbash2966]

KillerOffRoadHobbyz thanks so much for coming down again brother!!! You were frigging KILLING it out there. I'm really impressed with that Cheetah😱. Amazing handling and speed for a budget RC. Looking forward to seeing the footage soon my friend. Had an absolute BLAST once again!!! Tdogg isn't missing the next one 😥🙋🙋😨😨😨😵😲😎💪💪💪💪👊👊

[@kevink.8048]

Awesome! Thanks a million for the trouble shooting info with truck

[@richduperbash2966]

Kevin K. Thanks brother, you're very welcome my friend!!! This is a totally fun platform IMHO, just need to work out the kinks. 👍👍😵😵😵😲😨😎💪👊👊

[@PaulOff-RoadDownunder]

Thanks for the video !!! I've been wondering how the little monster behaved....well I must say it fairly launched into orbit like I suspected ! Good on you Rich for shouting out to Jeff to watch out....and taking reflex action to avoid an accident 👍This Proline still has some hiccups to recover from to prove itself and redeem some respect....imo. Thanks again for sharing your experiences, as it really does help others ! Now fix him up and get him back to work. 😉

[@richduperbash2966]

RC OFF-ROAD DOWNUNDER thanks so much Paul. I'm so glad Jeff didn't get hit. That was risky timing on my part. I should've waited until I had a clearer view of things. Didn't plan on going off course with the jump, but sh.t happens.😨 This Proline is definitely a fun basher no doubt, just very light and a bit touchy, especially mid air...Lol. Parts already ordered. Hoping to get through a pack next time.🙋🙋🍻😵😵😲😎💪💪👊👊

[@lordhostile]

"Damn Rich, that thing it nutty, well done sir!

[@richduperbash2966]

HostileRC thanks brother...Lol!!! That's a pretty darn good description of this rig on 4s😨😱😵😵😵😲😎💪👊👊

[@FarmPrepper1]

Off the chain!!

[@RCPropaganda]

pumped to hear there is an other hobby store not to far away. Going to go check them out sunday.

[@richduperbash2966]

Growyourmind86 Fast Track Hobbies has great people no doubt. Tell Dwight and Tony I said what's up!!! Happy bashing brother. 🙋🙋😲😲😲😨😵😎💪👊👊

[@HYEonDEATHROW]

Great driving! Your subs are creeping up 👀👍🏻

[@richduperbash2966]

HYEonDEATHROW thanks brother, much appreciated. I need more time with this little ripper. It's very light and touchy in the air. Going to try to turn my brake down a tad.🙋🙋😱😲😲😵😎💪👊👊

[@jdpasl]

Hahaha. Awesome bashing vid. Insane long jumps. Wow. 😎👍🏆

[@richduperbash2966]

jdpasl thanks brother, I shouldn't have flailed so early...Lol. I wanted to get through a pack with this little BEAST. More video to follow no doubt.👍👍😱😵😵😵😲😎💪👊👊

[@ReadySetRC]

Great run Rich. That kit was taking a beating. Really upset about the quality issues I see you having on this kit. May need to reach out to them and let them know. I know you'll get it out hitting those jumps very soon! 💪👊👊👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@richduperbash2966]

Ready Set RC thanks so much my friend!!! This rig is pretty darn cool despite a few QC build issues and frustrations. I'll probably reach out to Proline, but have been informed they're aware of the key problems. It's a great design IMHO, and impressively tough. Planning on making some alterations to improve handling. Small, overpowered RCs are very challenging to bash and that's right up my alley...Lol!!! Very touchy in the air with my electronics anyhow. Going to back off the brake setting for sure.🙋🙋😵😵😵😱😲😎💪👊👊

[@anthonyarnold906]

Man that was awesome I wish I could be there with all you guys. If you think about the list of rigs there it gets me fired up lol. You beat on the proline pretty hard. Seems the driveline handles 4s alright so far.

[@richduperbash2966]

Anthony Arnold thanks so much brother!!! We had 10 rigs total, and only 1 didn't get ran due to diff issues. This Proline handles 4s no problem. Still getting it fine tuned. Planning on adding hex extenders in a couple days when the busted suspension parts arrive. Definitely flailed off that last jump...Lol. Happy bashing brother!!!🙋🙋😵😵😵😲😨😎💪👊👍

[@Valdemar-Perez-III]

3:56 that is one bad ass car

[@GreatLakesRC]

That little proline rips pretty good 👍 Shame about the build issues. A buddy of mine experienced the same thing and he had bought 3 kits, all had build quality issues ☹️ It look like you guys had alot of fun, thanks for sharing 😀👍👍

[@richduperbash2966]

Aaron Weycker thanks brother, she is a little RIPPER on 4s. Hopefully Proline will crack down on build QC. Wondering if you're talking about Steve G??? Spoke with him on the Tekno forum. Yeah, we had a BLAST. More footage to soon.👍👍😵😵😵😲😨😎💪👊👊

[@GreatLakesRC]

Rich Duperbash Lol, yes I was talking about Steven G aka Texas Tek Custom RC's 👍👍

[@txstekcustomrcs9005]

Yeah its sad for a truck that this much would have so many build issues. I was not happy having to deal with the same issues on all (3) trucks I bought. Hopefully Pro-Line sees all of this and does something to change their build process.

[@richduperbash2966]

TX's Tek Custom Rcs I couldn't agree more brother and really appreciate your help and feedback. The sad part is the design of this rig seems KILLER overall. Just goes to show how critical proper assembly is with the interdependence of all it's parts. I'm sure Proline will correct things in the quality control area. It would definitely make good business sense anyhow.🍻😦😦😎💪👊👊

[@txstekcustomrcs9005]

Yes I agree, the truck is designed fantastically.. I think they just rushed on the first batch to get them out in time or on schedule.. Pro-Line should had just delayed it if that's the case. I agree, I'm sure they will tighten their assembly process up and make sure these kits come out better assembled. I feel bad for the ones that don't know really how to work on these trucks and or follow social media to see what were are dealing with.. That's the ones that will have some serious issues and put the negative feedback out there... So hopefully this isn't happening on the second batch. I will be posting my trucks soon on the page.. Just been working a lot. Great video again bro, can't wit to see your next run with this truck!

[@TheChainsaw10]

Hey DuperDude. My ProMt 4x4 also melted a cup in exactly the same way on my first run. I’ve got pics on rc tech forums. Here’s what happens. The metal pillow ball retainer set screw MUST be at least flush when set into the hub...really should be recessed a tad. If it sticks out at all the spinning wheel contacts the set screw and unscrews it while running. Then the wheel causes friction against the metal set screw ....the heat contucts to the white plastic cup and melts it like a marshmallow. The problem is if you set the retainer screw recessed the suspension binds...need wider hubs so the wheel doesn’t contact the set screw really. Or, you can take a little material off the outside of the set screw so it sets in deeper. I talked to Proline and they’re aware of the design flaw. Hopefully they come up with a fix. They’re sending me new parts. I currently have a Traxxas Summit pillow ball retainer in place...works great...just had to shorten it a bit

[@richduperbash2966]

TheChainsaw10 thanks so much for this brother!!! I couldn't figure out how it melted, but I also couldn't believe I could've missed that big white Delrin booger pushing out...Lol. All makes perfect sense now. Really appreciate your detailed description of the problem. Glad to hear Proline is owning up to it. I'll probably use Traxxas replacement as you did for now. Big props to you my friend. Thanks for your help with this!!!🍻🙋🙋😲😲😲😵😱😎💪👊👊

[@TheChainsaw10]

Rich Duperbash ...I don’t think Proline guys actually knew why it was happening either...they knew it was happening though. I explained my thoughts to him and he agreed I was right. The Summit/REVO retainers are a one piece thing. Plastic, but I’ve never had one fail. You just have to shorten it a bit. Same diameter and threads as the Proline retainers.

[@richduperbash2966]

TheChainsaw10 thanks again brother!!! Was just at the LHS, I should've picked some up. Will definitely mod them to work if need be. I'm thinking it was only a problem on one side cuz the pillow ball nut was backed out a tad on that side??? Really appreciate your input bud!!!😎💪💪👊👊

[@richduperbash2966]

TheChainsaw10 are you aware of a hex extender that will fit this little guy??? It would push the rim outward, solve the friction issue and make this guy way more stable at speed and when cornering.🤔🤔

[@TheChainsaw10]

Rich Duperbash yes, the Team Associated rc8t hubs will work. You just have to drill slightly larger holes in the Proline axles. The rc8t pins are slightly thicker. The pins will be held in with the rc8t circular spring clip that comes with the hubs(you won’t be using a threaded pin thingamajig that comes with the truck). I’m going to mount some on tonight. Join up at rc tech forums if you want to see pics. By the way...I’m also bending suspension mounts too..it is fun though

[@MrNiteriders1]

Awesome Rich. The Pro line is a beast. Sick jumps. It def can take a beating. Pretty soon you are gonna need camera every where. They are def gonna break after so much. I know mine have. Lol. Keep up the greats vids buddy👍👍👊👊👊

[@richduperbash2966]

Kenny mph Melanko thanks so much Kenny. It's a little RIPPER no doubt!!! Just got a bit wild and darted mother Earth again...Lol. Definitely can't blame the truck for that breakage. Looking forward to getting this little guy honed in soon.👍👍🍻😵😵😵😲😎💪👊👊

[@MrNiteriders1]

Rich Duperbash your welcome. Can’t wait to see more buddy👍👍👍

[@richduperbash2966]

Kenny mph Melanko no doubt man, this is a really fun platform.👍👍😨

[@ramashuri333]

Very convincing video👍 u would chosen it more than the mt410? In durability its same as the tekno?

[@txstekcustomrcs9005]

Awesome Video! wish we had courses like that around where I live.. in BFE lol. Great video and thanks for the heads up on the issues you had as well. Seems like we had a lot of the same issues but you having the other with the pivot ball. I will keep an eye out for that... Look forward see more videos. "Steven G"

[@richduperbash2966]

TX's Tek Custom Rcs thanks so much Steven, missed your message bro. Really appreciated your input on the Tekno forum bud. I'm totally digging this little RIPPER. Just had it out again 2 days ago and had an AWESOME fun bash. I'm very impressed at this point, she took a pretty serious beat down 😱. That same right front pillow ball retainer came loose again and started acting as a brake on the wheel hex. Caught it before the Delrin cup melted again. Hoping to load vid soon, but it gave me a way better feel for the speed, handling, and capability of this little BEAST. Turning the brake down to 25% and adding some toe out made a HUGE difference.🙋🙋😵😵😵😲😨😎💪👊👊

[@txstekcustomrcs9005]

Hahah no problem at all... I'm glad your videos and your feedback always has really good details... Wonder why that pillow ball keeps working itself loose.. Shouldn't be doing that with it being set into plastic... I would expect this in aluminum but not with a plastic arm. Wonder if just from the stress its working it's way out? Maybe a little loctite might help out even though its plastic? Can't wait to see your next video.. I hope to get mine out tomorrow as well. I will also get it on video but it wont be on a coarse like yours lol... Wish we had them around here.. haha anyhow bro great hearing back from you and I will keep an eye on my pillow balls as well... Great plan on the brake as well.. I run mine at 25% as well for 1/10th and 37% on 1/8th Cheers!

[@richduperbash2966]

TX's Tek Custom Rcs just wanted to clarify, the pillow balls aren't coming loose in the arms. The lower pillow ball caps are backing out and hitting the rotating plastic wheel hexes. Pull the front wheels off and just be certain the lower pillow ball caps/retainers are fully seated. If they back out they eat into the wheel hexs and get super heated.😎💪👊👊

[@txstekcustomrcs9005]

Rich Duperbash ok gotcha. I understand. I'll definitely keep an eye out for that on the trucks. Right now they look fine but I'll definitely check then out after every run. Thank you again

[@richduperbash2966]

TX's Tek Custom Rcs no problem brother, happy bashing!!!😎💪👊👊

[@ronniezhou5276]

I watched a lot of your videos and man, all of them are awesome! I love your big air jump, and may I ask the new proline 4 by 4 and tekno MT410, which one is more fun and durable? I cannot afford both of them...thanks!

[@richduperbash2966]

Ronnie zhou thanks so much brother, really appreciate the kind words bud. Too early to really rate durability overall with the Proline for me anyhow. The Tekno MT410 can definitely take a beating and is more capable overall. Not a cheap option by any means, but the Tekno has proven itself already as a great basher. Both rigs are FUN, but the bigger Tekno can handle more terrain without question.🤔🙋🙋😱😵😵😲😎💪👊👊

[@ronniezhou5276]

Rich Duperbash Thanks man, I eager to watch more from you! You really did a great job!

[@richduperbash2966]

Ronnie zhou thanks brother. I'm eager to get the parts hopefully tomorrow to fix this little sucker...Lol. I'm planning to widen her stance at least an inch with hex extenders and get her more fine tuned for the next outing.😎💪👊👊

[@baddazzgarage2953]

Orsumm to see buddy's bashn great vid!! Im still not sure about the truck i saw once you were full throttle and turned and it flipped sideways!! I love high speed turns and it looks unstable in turns! I think i noticed you starting to slow down when you did turns!! Im really not a lover of cars under 1/8 scale handling tends to drop!!! When i got outcast i wasnt sure till i saw it how small it was but once you start getting smaller than that i dont like handling! I think your more an air guy than me i like driving a bit more! But it definatly looks fun! I also got a couple off subbs from your shoutout rich thankyou again!! Im still waiting to hear back from your hobbie supplier!! Cheers rich😎😉

[@richduperbash2966]

BADDAZZ GARAGE thanks Glenn, appreciate it brother. Yeah this rig has too narrow of a stance to handle high speed turns with the grippy MX28s. If you can break into a slide you're OK. I definitely prefer 1/8 scale all the way. That said, there isn't another 1/10 on the market like this one and I personally enjoy the challenge of trying to control smaller/lighter rigs. I enjoy high speeds and air about equally. That's why I still love my Truggified Typhon more than all the others. It can handle really hard turns...etc.. but is still challenging just the same. Really just love the variety and swapping between them...Lol. I do my share of front yard and park tooling around. It's all good to me. Cheers and happy bashing brother!!!🙋🙋😵😵😲😱😎💪👊👊

[@proudcanadiansteinke9619]

Ya the proline shere can fly rich just picked up a typhon today im just tuck afine the bad boy first ..nice bash

[@richduperbash2966]

rc ridder now you're talking brother!!! The Truggified Typhon is a complete animal IMHO. Nice purchase no doubt.🙋🙋😵😵😵😲🤗🤗🍻😎💪👊👊

[@miniRCSports]

what a great place to bashing nice video XD

[@richduperbash2966]

mini RC Sports thanks so much brother!!! It's a killer spot for a group bash, just have to be careful with the taller jumps. Very easy to lose sight of one another.🙋🙋😱😵😵😵😲😲😨😎💪👊👊

[@2040RC]

Great test with your new Pro-MT, my friend!!! You launched it into orbit yeeeeah!!!😵😵😵 But I've seen that you had also some issues with it, I hope not but it seems to me that the 4wd isn't so strong and durable as the 2wd version!!! 🤔☹️ My Pro-MT 2wd survived 606 days without breakages and you know what we do with our cars!!! 😂😎

[@richduperbash2966]

2040 RC thanks so much brother. It's a tough little truck no doubt, I'm still impressed with it overall. Most 4x4 will break first from extra weight and moving parts IMHO. That landing was BRUTAL from what Jeff said anyhow, and I believe his word...Lol😱😨. We'll see how she does from here forward after more tuning and a couple drastic changes in stance. 🙋🙋😵😵😵😲😎💪👊👊

[@2040RC]

Rich Duperbash Yeah, I want the ProMT 4x4 from a long long time, but I'll wait to see your next rides...if it passes the “Duperbash's test" it'll probably be good also for us!!!😂😂😘

[@2040RC]

Rich Duperbash yes, m.facebook.com/2040RepartoCorse/ 😎👍

[@PeterWeber]

Wow, she flies good. ufff that landing had to be really bad, because the damage looked bad. Must say ProLine got it right with the MT 4x4.

[@richduperbash2966]

Peter Weber thanks Peter, she does fly good. Jeff said that hit was NASTY...Lol. Just glad I didn't hit him. I really shouldn't have taken that jump until he was further out of the way. Went way off coarse. I'm very impressed with this design. Parts aren't Crazy expensive like Tekno either.🙋🙋😲😲😲😵😨😎💪👊👊

[@longboardguy]

How are you guys mounting your esc in the chassis just double sided tape or? Awesome little truck it sure flies!

[@longboardguy]

Rich Duperbash sounds good I've ordered this pro mt and I'm just wondering how I was gonna mount my esc. I'll give that a try. Love the truck and your videos on it! 🍻🍻👍

[@richduperbash2966]

longboardguy thanks brother 👊!!! The PLMT has grown on me bigtime. It truly is a little Ripper. Appreciate the kind words my friend 😂!!! 😎💪👊👊

[@longboardguy]

Rich Duperbash no problem I'll keep on watching your videos. That little thing grew on me watching you review and bash and give updates on it so I finally went to tower hobbies and bought one. Just waiting for it to arrive. I've got a ton of 1/8 electronics so it made sense to buy something like this and I want something not so big I can rip around the yard also on the odd day. This one I can carry over to the park also and not attract a bunch of attention as I could stash it in a bag lol. Enjoy the rest of the weekend bro 👍🍻👍😎

[@longboardguy]

I'll let you know when mine shows up and what i do with it. I'm thinking tamiya corsa grey for body colour on mine. I like your colour on yours also

[@adwally1]

Nice driving rich. What was Gary running? (just me or was vid quality way down?). Hopefully Proline will fix assesmbly problems soon.

[@richduperbash2966]

Adam Wallace thanks brother, I should've clarified, Gary was driving his Proline Pro MT, too. He loaded his vid a few hours ago. We got a lot of footage with various rigs to post still. Not sure about the vid quality, maybe a bad connection. Yeah, I definitely hope Proline tightens up the assembly end things.🙋🙋😲😲😲😵😨😎💪👊👊

[@pyroskeg69]

EPIC AIR BRO!!!! 😨😨😨🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘 DUDE !!! it took a THUMPING !!! 😎😎😎😃😃😆😆. Bummer on the end game stack 😓😥😥😥 you did the right the trying not to hit Jeff 👌👌🤘🤘👏👏👏. Wtf😓😓 ... you got a friday arvo build by the looks bro 😑😑😥😥😥. The front pillow ball 😨😨😨 WHATT !!! thats epicly Not good🤤 I Lost my servo horn screw in the bash ill upload later 😨. LOL.. Shes nose heavy with these big 1:8 motors thats for sure !! . Turn the brake down a touch ?? I had set the brake to hard on mine and kept causing me to mess up in the air and Crash 😨😨😆😆😆😆.Tuff little buggers they are💪💪.

[@pyroskeg69]

Razib Khan Thanks very much bro !! Very kind of you to say 😃😃😎😎😎

[@richduperbash2966]

Rc Anonymous man you nailed it Matt...Lol!!! Definitely got a Friday rush job 😱😰😰. I was so pissed having to cut, dig, and ultimately melt that white Delrin booger out of that hex to get the damn thing off....WTF!!!!! I couldn't wrap my head around how that could even happen??? I hope someone from Proline see's this crap and gets pissed about it. Definitely need to turn the brake down, she's a tough and touchy little bugger for sure.🙋🙋😲😲😱😎💪👊👊

[@NevilleSidhu]

Your delrin pillowball melted. Its a known issue by Proline. I talked to someone on the rctech forum. They talked to proline becuase they had the same issue. Whats happening is the screw that hold the pillowball in is rubbing on the inside of the rim and backing it out slightly. While this is happening the friction from the rim scraping against the pillowball screw creates alot of heat and melts the delrin inside. I seen a picture on rctech of a guy that had the delrin come ousing out of the screw just like you did. Call proline, they sent him a whole new hub carrier, pillowball, delrin insert, and a couple other things to replace his damaged parts. I have not got a chance to run my pro mt yet. Just up and down the road to test. I wanted to come out and bash with you guys today but family priorities came in the way. I was suppose to message Gary and he was gonna let me know if you guys where going out today but i never messaged him because i knew i wouldnt be able to make it. Hope you get the Pro MT back up and running. Seems like a handfull. Looks like a blast. Great video as always, Keep up the great bash vids...

[@pyroskeg69]

Rich Duperbash bro im freaking out about taking my wheels off now 😨😨😨 i have to much movement in the front and need to adjust the pillow balls😨😨😨 I'm really sorry your not off to the best start with this one 😥😥 id send proline a email with that photo and see what happens 🤞🤞🤞😎😎😎😎.

[@pyroskeg69]

Neville Sidhu Great response mate 🖒🖒😎😎

[@bakermob29]

Having the same issue with my front hub. The wheel wasn't spinning so I took it off and noticed the screw that hold the pillow ball was a few threads sticking out. I haven't removed the hub yet but I can move it back and forth so I assume the hub is defective. Bummer. Hope proline is doing something about this! I only drove it around my driveway a little. Not even a full pack yet.

[@richduperbash2966]

Bakerboyzzz RC that's a bummer brother. Mine hasn't moved since putting a single wrap of Teflon tape around the nut threads, same thin wrap you use on pipe fittings. I bought some Vibra-tite incase it comes out again. The lower pillow ball nut should be flush or slightly recessed into the hub. May need to check your Delrin insert didn't melt inside. The wheel hex hits the nut in such a spot as to spin it even looser/back it out counter clockwise 😨. The RC8T hex extenders I'm running makes that impossible. Good luck with it bro. 🍻🙋🙋😨😵😵😵😲😎💪👊👊

[@bakermob29]

Rich Duperbash thank man! I have those hub extenders. I plan on doing that tomorrow. I'll use some of that plumbers tape and that should do it. Everything else is good so far. Just finished putting 60w shock oil in it. My shock fluid was real under filled just like you said. Need to get some 1M diff oil then I'll be set to bash. Thanks for all your help Rich!

[@richduperbash2966]

Bakerboyzzz RC hey no problem brother. Be mindful when you drill out your axels if using the RC8T extenders. I used a titanium Milwaukee 1/8" bit from Home Depot. First used 7/64" to getter started. Used channel locks to hold the axel steady when drilling straight down. Happy bashing brother!!!😎💪👊👊

[@guyrose5594]

great vid question u think the setup in the arrma will work with the proline pro mt 4x4? Hobbystar 1730kv 4092 long can motor paired with the Mamba Monster X

[@richduperbash2966]

Guy Rose thanks brother, but the 1730 4092 is WAY too big and heavy for the 1/10 scale Proline MT. It's a friggin TANK...Lol!!! Even normal size 1/8 scale electronics are big for this little ripper. Trust me on this. The truck was designed for either 1/10 or 1/8 motors, but many are getting killer results with both. In the end, you can only get so much power to the ground in such a light platform. The Mamba Monster X ESC with a 2200kv would be insane too!!! This little guy RIPS with BLX electronics. Had a KILLER full pack bash yesterday and it was insanely FUN!!! 🙋🙋😵😵😵😨😱😎💪👊👊

[@guyrose5594]

Rich Duperbash thank you for your response. So I should keep the mamba and what should I replace the 1730 with. Your Suggestion

[@richduperbash2966]

Guy Rose no problem brother. The motor size is up to you, but if running a Mamba Monster X, I'd strongly consider the Castle 2200kv, 1515. Doesn't need to be sensored. Any 1/8 motor between 2000-2200kv will absolutely RIP, especially on 4s voltage. 😎💪👊👊

[@guyrose5594]

Thank you for your time and answering my questions love your vids. I'm going to try that setup. whats a good servo u like. Bec I know 0

[@richduperbash2966]

Guy Rose I normally run Savox SW 1210sg in all my Arrmas anyways. I'm currently using a budget JX HV5932mg digital servo in the Proline that was recommended to me from a viewer. So far so good. Not as fast as the Savox it seems, but this was a budget build for me...Lol!!! It's working great so far. Ordered it from Banggood.😎💪👊👊

[@bradthornhill5281]

Rich how did you fix the problem with the delrin insert coming through the set screw? Or did you just order a new insert?

[@richduperbash2966]

Brad Thornhill the problem is caused by friction if the pillow ball nut makes contact with the rotating inner wheel hex. My Delrin insert had melted and needed replacement. I permanently solved this issue by adding Team Associated RC8T hex extenders. It's impossible for the wheel to rub that nut with the extenders and the ride is WAY better. Did also put Teflon tape on the pillowball nut threads just to tighten the fit. Had to drill out the axel pin holes with a 1/8" bit to fit the new hex set pins. 😎💪👊👊

[@bradthornhill5281]

Thanks brother! This just happened to my sons. I took it apart and had the same as you showed in your video.

[@bradthornhill5281]

Rich just so I am understanding, i still have to replace the delrin insert before using the extenders correct

[@dominicpicarazzi3465]

what servo are you running in the pro mt?

[@richduperbash2966]

RC Insanity I'm running a cheap JX servo, don't have the part # at the moment, at work. It's OK, but not great. Planning to put a Savox SW 1210sg in most likely. 🍻😎💪👊👊

[@BIEDZ_RCz]

What is that yellow truck with the white wing at 3:50?

[@richduperbash2966]

That was Gary's ET48 Tekno truggy. It was all good until those big tires overheated his electronics 😱😎💪👊👊

[@BIEDZ_RCz]

@@richduperbash2966 it looks really wide, or is it just because of the body?

[@richduperbash2966]

@@BIEDZ_RCz it's the skinny body and chassis. Tekno makes them really narrow.

[@TpPartsRcXtreme]

Looked very good Rich, sad to see the issiues from factory. Thank god you didnt hit jeff..better to break a truck then a friend 🤗

[@richduperbash2966]

Tp-Parts Rc-Xtreme thanks so much Thomas. Yeah I reached my boiling point with the pillow ball issue...Lol. Found it right before bedtime and was like...WTF???😨SO glad I didn't hit Jeff with that ill timed jump. This is a great design and FUN, but definitely isn't no Siren!!! May try finding some hex extenders to widen the stance a bit.🍻🙋🙋😲😲😲😵😎💪💪👊👊

[@TpPartsRcXtreme]

Rich Duperbash yeah, bit sad with such a costy truck. But it looks good on thay track. Yes bit wider might do the trick even more

[@richduperbash2966]

Tp-Parts Rc-Xtreme thanks Thomas, fortunately I got a good price with a coupon code. So I figured out the problem thanks to a viewer. If the lower aluminum pillow ball nut is not totally flush with the hub, it rubs the inner plastic wheel hex with each rotation, super heats the nut to where the Delrin cup inside actually melts!!! Proline is aware of the issue. They designed the lower hub almost flush with the plastic wheel hex when it's mounted. Just inspected the inside wheel hex closely and found concrete evidence of friction wear. Perfect circular area where the rubbing occurred. My speed runs probably melted that little white bastard...Lol!!!😲😲😲😵

[@redboard9able]

What wheel adapt do you recommendTo clear

[@richduperbash2966]

Francisco Navarro Team Associated RC8T #89330. You'll need to drill your axel pin holes with 1/8th bit I'm told. Got this off the RC Tech forum under the Proline MT section. Going to do mine right now.😎💪👊👊

[@redboard9able]

Ok thank u

[@richduperbash2966]

Francisco Navarro no problem brother. I just did a test fit. The holes definitely line up. Adds about 1.25" total width front and rear, or 5/8" per side. Went to drill, but my 1/8th bit looks bent...Lol. Realize using hex adapters places a bit more stress on the axels and bearings. I'm willing to at least try it. Good luck and see you at Fast Track sometime bro!!!😨😎💪👊👊

[@SethJLamb]

Is it kinda like your truggified Typhon?

[@richduperbash2966]

Seth J. Lamb kinda but not really. My Truggified Typhon blows doors on this little bugger. Way more planted, faster, and probably a bit stronger overall. This truck is definitely 1/10 scale stance and weight. Definitely FUN and capable, but could never rip it up like my Truggified. I'd build a Truggified over this if I didn't already have one.🙋🙋😵😵😵😲😎💪👊👊

[@npuente6564]

Where is this bmx track at?

[@richduperbash2966]

N. Puente 7th St and Richards BLVD in Sacramento.😎💪👊👊

[@stewdoggstew5018]

That build quality stuff is keeping me away from this rig for a bit. The Proline name is synonymous with quality and this truck is taking some of that away. It's a tough rig, but those build issues are a problem and not everyone (most people) is going to tear them apart and rebuild them like they should and that will start to put a strain on the good name. Those light rigs are real squirrley on landings and tough to get them to stay on the wheels without some good trigger work. You did that nicely my friend!! I can't wait to see some more bashing from this little bad boy! Sucks your breakage has to be so deep in the RC and you gotta take all the time to fix it instead of bashing it!! Way she goes, I suppose!:) I just watched Tdogg's new Outcast... what a score! I would have bought it to.:) Sucks you have been feeling crappy, I did all weekend to! Hope you are feeling better now!

[@richduperbash2966]

Stewdogg Stew thanks so much Stew!!! Totally agree with your assessment on the build QC issues. Proline will learn from this I'm sure. Keeping a solid reputation requires no corners be cut, especially rushing to fill orders with a new release. Could just be a couple assemblers feeling overworked and not being scrupulous. The overall strength clearly is interdependent of each component. Still very impressed with this little RIPPER!!! I definitely broke it this outing. This truck is wonderfully designed and very easy to work on. I'm widening it with RC8T hex extenders, turning my break down, adjusting the wheel base and front toe. This rig is squirrelly as f..k...Lol.. but rips hard and is MAD FUN!!! Actually handles surprisingly well for it's weight and size, just 4s 1/8 power on 1/10 frame 😨😨😱. Definitely can expect improvement with some adjustments. PS, feeling normal again finally!!! Appreciate that Brother.🙋🙋😵😵😵😲😰😰😎💪👊👊🍻

[@stewdoggstew5018]

Good to hear you are feeling better! Do you have the extenders on the Proline now or are planning on it? It did look quite tippy in the cornering, so I could see the need for the extenders. I was reading about chainsaw10's experience with his Proline and he has had some troubles too. He had a pillow ball melt out, it kinda looked like the plastic you had hanging out in one of your videos. Was yours just extra material or a melted pillow ball?

[@richduperbash2966]

Stewdogg Stew thanks brother. I owe a Huge thanks to Neville and Chainsaw10!!! Finally joined RC Tech forum thanks to Neville's tip and then Chainsaws comments on my vid. That white Delrin booger was infact my melted cup. It shouldn't be able to happen again with hex extenders as the wheel hex will be far removed from the lower pillow ball nut. Proline molded the lower hubs almost flush with the wheel hex 😨. It sets the stage for intense friction if the lower pillow ball nut backs out at all. Sadly reading several others are having servo saver breakages. I can confirm the critical piece is too thin, but it's further jeopardized by too tight a fitment on the steering post. Going to remove mine again and sand it like Vanning did his from the Arrma Forum. It doesn't piston up and down easily as the cambered pieces butt against each other regardless of spring tension setting. Waiting on parts still, but Chainsaw10 confirmed the RC8T hex extenders do work with the supplied cross pin if you just drill the axel to 1/8th". Still give Proline props for this design, just still weeding out issues that I shouldn't have to honestly.😎💪👊👊

[@shaneswails1688]

What weights you running in the diffs? 100k/1M/50K.

[@richduperbash2966]

Shane Swails that's it brother, front to rear. So far so good on 4s power.👍👍😱😲😲😲😵😎💪👊👊

[@shaneswails1688]

Rich Duperbash Thanks! Never worked with 1M. I’m sure that needs heated? Must be like tar. 😜

[@richduperbash2966]

Shane Swails LMAO!!! Yes, it's sorta ridiculous...Lol. I heated mine with a space heater and had to smear it into the diff, then keep heating it more...Lol.😱😎💪👊👊

[@FarmPrepper1]

This is too crazy hearing Gary in the background. Sorry about the 410. I KNOW you looking forward to it

[@richduperbash2966]

Phill Stoffer thanks brother. Props to Gary for making the long drive down with his family again. Isn't easy with younger kids and lots of stuff to bring. Had a really fun time no doubt.🙋🙋😱😲😨😵😵😵😎💪👊👊

[@FarmPrepper1]

Rich Duperbash yep he's a great guy. God Bless

[@ekoibelux-steve5088]

Better then the truggified Typhon?

[@richduperbash2966]

EKOI BELUX - Steve no way in HELL...Lol!!! Don't get me wrong, she's fun for a 1/10th, spirited and challenging to bash, but I'd way rather run my Truggified Typhon overall. It's so much more planted. What's Crazy is Gary put his JLB Cheetah Xtreme on top of my Truggified, they have the exact same footprint...Lol. No wonder why he loves that rig. Way more footage to load for me and him. He killed it with his MT410 and I beat the living crap out of mine, too...Lol. Honestly, if I was going to choose rigs, the Typhon in Truggified form is still my favorite ripper.🙋🙋😱😵😵😵😲🍻😎💪👊👊

[@philwebb606]

Nothing like trashing it on the first jump session 😂😂 being smaller and lighter with the same electrics as a bigger rig I'm sure it's easy to over do corrections in the air

[@richduperbash2966]

Philip Webb yes, she's a sketchy little bugger no doubt...Lol. I used bad judgement taking that last jump😥😥. Just glad Jeff didn't get clipped. Parts are easy to replace.👍👍😵😵😵😱😎💪👊👊

[@philwebb606]

Rich Duperbash fixing is all part of the fun, even better if you have a LHS stocking spares

[@richduperbash2966]

Philip Webb agreed brother, love wrenching. Unfortunately, my LHS isn't stocking these parts yet.😥😥😱

[@philwebb606]

Rich Duperbash i don't even have a LHS so all my parts/trucks are bought which is a pain

[@JSprayaEntertainment]

Sub 896

[@richduperbash2966]

J-N-H-M thanks brother, happy bashing!!!🙋🙋😱😵😵😵😲😎💪👊👊

[@mtctookie25]

Wow that sucks! 😞

[@richduperbash2966]

mtctookie25 yeah I definitely broke her this outing...Lol. Shouldn't have taken that last jump with Jeff in the vacinity.😥😥😵😵😵😲😨😎💪👊👊

[@mtctookie25]

Hell yeah, it's always that last one brotha!!!

[@richduperbash2966]

mtctookie25 no doubt brother...Lol!!!😨😨🍻