Devastating head injury on POWER SLAP | Surgeon Reacts

[@parker73724]

It's crazy how the guy waking him up doesn't ask him any questions and then proceeds to tell him he's ok.

[@Psylaine64]

yeah cos you reassure your patient before anything else .... esp on a game show .. this is not a sport

[@rhywnn]

Because, it would show just how bad they are after the hit. The fact he does not recall what happened was a big flag. Showing clear signs on video probably could set them up for a lawsuit. Money first after all in sports like this.

[@zebradun7407]

You want to not make the victim go into shock by telling him he is in bad shape. Even if he has lost his arms and legs, even if his guts are hanging out, you tell them not to look but to lie back and they will be OK.

[@Psylaine64]

@ emt?

[@Elite7555]

People talk in disgust about gladiator fights in ancient Rome, but the cognitive dissonance is appearently completely lost on them.

[@calebpagan2226]

There are people that protest combat sports like the UFC as well.

[@mastpg]

You mean the cognitive dissonance of not realizing that "people" can be separated by their differing perspectives? Thanks for letting us know your pronouns.

[@STARPHASE]

@@mastpg Found the guy who has to make everything political.

[@STARPHASE]

The funniest part is that historians have largely agreed that the gladiator battles were scripted, much like the WWE is.

[@mastpg]

@@STARPHASE I can't tell if you're going along with the sarcasm or can't perceive it.

[@DruSolis]

I saw an interview with Dan Hardy and he spoke about the power slap and said "you're basically trading brain cells for cash. We're at the point in society where you could put two people in cars and have them drive at each other and there'd be an appetite for that." And that is essentially what this is - a game of chicken without even the ability to swerve out of the way.

[@JohnDoe-do8fh]

We need a goddamn revolution.

[@lesnarbuiltthepyramids3788]

@@JohnDoe-do8fhnigga over power slap? My god I can only imagine what happens if you run out of laundry detergent or milk

[@agaga5886]

It has always been this way, and it won't change.

[@gcrackerz]

This isn't something new in society. People have been looking to violence (real or fake) for entertainment basically forever.

[@SABbrew]

Americans were paying money to see two trains crash into each other, upping the weight and speed of each till it caused a catastrophe. Humanity just loves tickling their brain chemicals.

[@nickzukowski4106]

In MMA when you can no longer intelligently defend yourself the contest ends, in power slap if try to defend yourself you're automatically disqualified.

[@blstewart001]

Good point. Well said.

[@margodphd]

Exactly. A giant difference.

[@Trenasist]

That sums it up 100%

[@d.optional3381]

celebrating violence is cringe in any case

[@jamiejosh96]

@@michaelharville886well you are going for the extreme there…. The moment they are clear to take a unprotected blow they stop it…. If you’d boxed or done mma you would know it’s rare to take a full blow…. It’s either partially blocked or rolled with 99.9% of the time. I’ve boxed for years and can say I’ve never hit someone with 100% in the same way you could if they can’t move…

[@Busterbalz]

I think a huge part of why something like this is even allowed to happen is because of the role hollywood has played in portraying concussions and KO's as injuries no more serious than bonking your shin on a coffee table. In any action movie, the hero will get knocked out via a blow to the head so the bad guy can get the drop on him, and when he wakes up he's no worse for wear. The general public doesn't understand that being knocked unconscious even ONCE means you have received brain damage that can cause serious, life lasting neurological complications. When I was a teenager, I had the flu and fainted from a fever spike/Blood pressure drop while standing, and fell all the way backwards and hit my head on a tile floor. Wouldn't you know it, just a year or two later I started having seizures and was diagnosed with epilepsy. PROTECT YOUR HEAD.

[@MimiRAM0NE]

People also think an open hand slap can't be as bad as punch.

[@slicingonions4398]

I’m not sure Hollywood had a role in this it was greedy money hungry pos Dana white money laundering cleaning his dirty money and Nevada athletic commission seeing dollar signs

[@roryadie9158]

@@MimiRAM0NEyeah the “slaps” they use aren’t even slaps. They’re palm strikes. When I was doing martial arts it was stressed to the whole class that palm strikes are basically the open handed equivalent to getting punched in the face

[@power-of-overdrive]

Very very true. Hollywood in general has sanitized violence to an enormous degree, and unfortunately, most people have no education in most areas outside of what they see in movies and TV shows. There is a reason why there are directors out there who try to show violence realistically, but they get clocked as "horror" or get very harsh ratings for their films, and so the majority of the population does not end up seeing them, or does not take them seriously. There's also many many medical shows out there, from ER to House to the Good Doctor, and amongst all of the soap opera they actually try to impart some medical truths and advice to the general population, but again, these shows are rarely taken seriously because they are seen as merely hospital-themed soap opera for housewives and autists. Again, the majority of the population ignores them. Instead, the majority sees shit like Marvel movies, where a bonk to the head is often the butt of a joke. They see action movies starring the Rock or whatever the shit, where somebody is given a concussion as part of a kidnapping plot, and a few minutes later they wake up and everything is fine. There are never any consequences shown in these movies, and if you try to call the creators out on this, they will say "it's a cape fantasy, they are all superhuman" or "the violence is metaphorical and humorous, it's not meant to be taken seriously". That's all well and good if it's a playful cartoon but it's not well and good in most Hollywood movies :/

[@GaryNac]

@Busterbalz Even though to be fair Hollywood is not necessarily intended to be educational in the first place and if someone was serious or concerned about wanting to learn about concussions and the effects they had they would watch a medical documentary or they would read a medical textbook or they would go to some medical website.

[@allsuperlady]

As a traumatic brain injury survivor, this needs to be stopped, there are serious consequences to this. My life is devastated by the brain bleed injury I suffered in September 2023.

[@lavaguanix6804]

i’m sorry to hear that

[@ylgukcuf1618]

What other people choose to do has nothing to do with you. I enjoy watching it.

[@pedrozeijden]

In MMA, after a KO the fighter go to an hospital (or should go). But in PowerSlap, the "fighter" continues to receive blows to the head.

[@GaryNac]

Even slap or power slap should have been put in quotations as well because those slaps are not even slaps in the first place.

[@mrdiippzzz7444]

Boxing 101

[@ericbeauchamp7385]

Except MMA fighters experienced 100-200 hits the face while these guys experience much less. Sit down and shut up.

[@RickAlfaro-ProSigns]

Let's make this perfectly clear. This is not a sport. And these are not athletes.

[@markmcgoveran6811]

@@RickAlfaro-ProSigns give me a break please give me a break for the love of God give me a break so what are you the mafia boss or something. I'm a businessman these are athletes not criminals.

[@cheeryberrie]

​@@markmcgoveran6811 girl

[@DysfunctionNoMore]

The worst part is that an actual slap involves only your fingers and the top of your palm. When it involves your palm heel, that's a frigging palm heel attack with a hook arm swing, not a slap!

[@stevepalpatine2828]

Exactly what I thought. These arent slaps these are full on Bas Rutten palm strikes that he used in Pancrasse to KO opponents.

[@DysfunctionNoMore]

@stevepalpatine2828 exactly! I used to break boards with palm heel strikes. Now people are breaking heads with them. A true slap is incredibly fast, striking with your fingers like a whip to the cheek to make that classic slap sound, NOT clobbering someone across the head with an open fist...

[@power-of-overdrive]

@@DysfunctionNoMore Very very good point. These aren't even slaps. They just call it a slap to make it sound less harsh. The organizers and agents know full well what they are getting the fighters into...

[@Igoriann]

Thats why they call it power slapping and not just slapping

[@RaKnows]

@@Igoriann The fact that there is no slap involved at all is the problem. It's certainly a "power strike", sure and eff not a slap.

[@NotSure416]

It's not a slap, it's a palm strike.

[@ewokFTW]

Thats all i can think about here too. Thats as good as a punch. Its not a flimsy slap.

[@GaryNac]

@NotSure416 Maybe they've should have just called it Power Palm as opposed to Power Slap but still regardless the whole thing is stupid.

[@GaryNac]

@ewokFTW I would say that it's potentially even more dangerous then a bare knuckle punch to the head because at least with a bare knuckle punch your fist or your hand would break before you even generated too much power in your strike yet the palm is plenty hard and dense enough to where you can swing at practically full power while connecting with the palm and you won't wind up breaking your hand.

[@jon9103]

Semantics.

[@GaryNac]

@jon9103 Speaking of semantics people described the people and warriors of the Ottoman empire back then as using a type of attack which was referred as the Ottomon slap and I heard people asking questions of how would a slap stop anybody or bring them down and I responded maybe part of the reason why it would stop somebody or bring them down is because the Ottoman Slap was actually more of a palm strike than a slap.

[@andrewiglinski148]

Lord I wish I could like this video 1,000 times. It’s not possible to put this more perfectly, and the fact that it’s coming from someone with such impressive credentials makes it even more impactful.

[@magicsamart2343]

I’ve known two different people who got concussions. The person they were before the injury and the person they become after the injury are totally different. Serious emotional and neurological issues. Concussions change your brain and they change who you are fundamentally. It is one of the worst injuries you can have.

[@coriknight9073]

This is part of why I got out of martial arts. I love sparring. The tactics and strategy, the techniques, the whole deal. And I could take a hit to the body just fine. But getting hit in the head? No thanks. I got out before racking up concussions (got rocked more than once, though) because it just wasn't worth the risk. It was either fighting or grad school. I chose grad school because it was the safer pick (it kinda wasn't, but that's another story).

[@thehellezell]

I think it was wrestler Lance Storm whose take was : “I’m watching guys become future suspects in domestic violence calls” that put it in perspective for me

[@Tinil0]

Brutal take, but sadly true. We already know that repeated concussions are a major predictor of domestic violence...these guys have a crazy scarily high chance of becoming abusers because their brain will become mush VERY quickly.

[@luhental]

I came here by searching ‘how is power slap legal’. And found professional physicians and doctors as appalled as I am. At least we have all gone mad.

[@ylgukcuf1618]

Why are you bothered. What is it with people wanting to stop other people doing things they want to do?

[@buckoxt]

Its MEGA Dangerous, if it sticks around give it ten years tops before we see slap fighters with major CTE symptoms

[@siddharthbirdi]

It was pretty in Poland, but got banned after a former strongman competitor died after getting slapped, any sport the sole purpose of which is unprotected strikes to the head deserves to get banned.

[@enigmalfidelity]

​@@siddharthbirdi7 people have died in the Dana White powerslap competitions. Not just to mainstage, but the up and comers corners. The ones trying to "make it". Dana says the money is worth it. His money....

[@andrewmitchell5807]

It'll already be less than 10 years before some get cte. The poor blokes have no idea how scary hell really is but they're already damned

[@GaryNac]

​@andrewmitchell5807 Fortunantely I don't think that too many people really respect or take this stuff too seriously maybe some people think its hilarious and maybe some people get a sadistic joy out of it to some extent at least for a brief amount of time but I still don't think that too many people are actually respecting or taking it too seriously.

[@miaouew]

Found out about you from one of my favorite channels, Napoleon Blownapart. This is the first time I have really agreed with any sort of societal outcry against violence on television etc. It is sick and sad and watching Gary Goodridge talk about how he realized he had CTE actually almost made me want to cry for the dude. Sad shit

[@Hippiemechanic]

Guy says “what was I doing”. I got knocked out once 7 years ago from a bike accident( pile drived my forehead into the pavement) when I woke up from people trying to help me I thought they were trying to steal my bike. I walked home smoked a joint and slept all weekend. Came to work after the weekend with my face entirely swollen and clearly still concussed, I could barely stand outside from the light hurting my eyes so badly.I still worry about the long term effects that incident has had on me. This disturbs me heavily

[@joni3501]

Head injuries and concussions are always very serious injuries. The more times you get your head hit the more likely you are going to get long term effects. I really hope that you aren't facing any effects any more, but there is always that chance. I think that it is good for everyone to be aware that you shouldn't anything other than recovering after experiencing a head trauma. I've had one concussion. It happened when I was playing soccer. I hit myself with another player and got my head hit on the turf. I actually kept playing for five minutes and thought everything was right just like you thought your bike was getting stolen. 5-10 minutes after the hit I realised that I didn't remember what day it was and what I did just moment ago. Thankfully my friends were aware of my situation and that "I wasn't quite there" anymore after the hit. This happened in school so my friends sent me to see a nurse. He checked that I wasn't acutely in need of health care. I was really scared because I hadn't experienced memory loss ever before the hit. I got sent to see a doctor and she did all the necessary checks to me. For my luck this happened on Friday so I got to take easy for the weekend. My only injurious effects were headache and short-term memory loss about the hit. Symptoms only lasted for like one day so I was very lucky. I was really scared and this experience really shook me off. I was taking easy for couple of weeks after the hit and thankfully haven't experienced any long-term symptoms. Now it's been half a year and I am feeling really well. This "sport" of knocking the hell out of other person is so fucking stupid.

[@luceatlux7087]

I hear ya' friend. One never really can tell what kind of impact an head injury like this has. I did the same thing when I was young... cracked my skull on concrete in a cul-de-sac of my neighborhood when I fell off my bike. I was told that people came out of their houses thinking that a gunshot went off because the sound of my skull hitting the ground was so uncannily loud. I used to be a basically well-adjusted 15 yr old kid with a psychiatrist proctored 139 Woodcock-Johnson mean-iq before the brain bash. It sure seems like there's some evidence that I was negatively affected in some mental capacity, though I never went back to suffer through another pointless and lengthy iq test (which, paradoxically, this second time it might've actually said something not-so-worthless, if I could use it to compare before and after scores). I noticed a few mental 'blind spots' that developed around this time in my life (although humans are also naturally growing a lot at this stage, so who knows for absolutely sure)... But some evidence was, for instance, that I began talking much more and with less of a filter, whereas I was extremely quiet before and more internally thoughtful. I started taking longer to think things through and finish school work/tests. Started getting bad headaches. I was diagnosed as 'ADD' (the type without the physically hyperactive component). I'm always with my head in the clouds, unfocused on tasks directly before me a lot of the time to this day. Just incidentally, oddly, I think it helped a tiny bit with anxiety. I felt more generally spaced-out after my possible brain damage.

[@herculez6087]

Lesson is to wear helmet, not use two wheelers and use pubic transport

[@emrebennett2857]

I have only ever had one concussion.. was surfing on a 4 - 5 foot day.. finished surfing so I decided to go into the shallows and mess around in the white water. Wiped out on like 2 foot of water and went head first into the sand.. was puking for the next 2 days

[@fellowtraveler2251]

In all likelihood you're gonna be okay in the grand scheme of things. Knockouts are never good for you, but one concussion isn't going to ruin your life. Now repeated incidents of concussion on the other hand, that's when you need to start to worry.

[@ImmenselyTilted]

I first saw slap fighting around 2 years ago and it left me speechless. I just can't understand why this is a thing. And now that Dana White got into it, it's even more worrying. Slap fighting is not a real combat sport. There's no skill or strategy involved. These people are just standing there defenseless and getting rocked repeatedly. It's really just monetized brain damage.

[@Mixed-Media-Arts]

I should slap you for this comment, but I won't because I may commit a stepping foul. I know for sure you'd flinch.

[@user-dh5un6wr8f]

Why would you slap him? He's right even if you don't like it

[@tinahickman6300]

​@@Mixed-Media-ArtsCalm down the testerics Karen! If your delicate sensibilities are so triggered maybe you should stay out of the comment section and in the kitchen where you belong. Men can be so emotional!!

[@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson]

Lol there’s rules in tiddlywinks too. Doesn’t make it a sport.

[@andieallison6792]

DANA WHITE??

[@user-dm84]

Great commentary. This sport is just absolutely maddening. In the UK the long term effects of head injuries in simply contact sports are devastating former athletes lives, so I can’t even imagine what nightmares await those that partake in combat sports like this over the months and years. Hopefully it doesn’t take a fatality before someone puts a stop to it.

[@RichHilsden]

Thank you for the comment. It really is a shame that this sport is still being promoted

[@ghostoflazlo]

I think we're doing this whole situation a disservice by even calling it a "sport". Its a freakshow ala Barnum, let's call jt what it is

[@Hellachoppa-oi2ek]

the irony of your terminology :)

[@justinmyslajek3376]

I really love UFC, I love Wrestling and combat sports in general. I was a collegiate wrestler and appreciate the skill involved to get to the top. What I love about MMA is that there are infinite ways a fight can go down. Im very bothered by slap league because it’s honestly sick. I agree wholeheartedly with your analysis. There is simply no real skill involved and there is honestly no potential evolution to the so called “sport”. With UFC we have all enjoyed seeing how the fight styles and fighters have progressed over the last 3 decades. With power slap, there is absolutely no excitement associated with where the sport can go. Power Slap needs to respectfully die. I’m over it. I can’t believe anyone thought this could be considered a sport.

[@nylesfrench3568]

I agree wholeheartedly

[@ewokFTW]

Same

[@K-yu-ko8dv]

MMA is a sport of technique, it involves strategy, skill, fighters have their own techniques and train different martial arts. Power slap trades all of that for just trading hits to the head

[@WobblesandBean]

The man who created this needs to be held accountable. This is basically televised CTE. Mark my words, this "sport" is going to spawn the next Chris Benoit.

[@Frau.Kanzlerin]

My mom was diagnosed with ALS a few months ago and I was looking back on a few odd events that have occurred in the past few years. One that stood out to me was that she had a forward fall during which she did not throw her arms up instinctively to protect her head like a lot of people do, I guess what you're referring to as the moro/startle reflex. She straight up face-planted and sustained brutal injuries to the face, which seemed really odd at the time. In ALS patients, the upper extremities tend to be more hyporeflexic and the lower extremities tend to be more hyperreflexic, so I guess it makes sense that such a primal spinal-cordy type reflex (😅) would be affected by a condition like ALS since it seems to affect the body side of the nervous system moreso than the brain side. 🤔 Interesting. This video has helped me connect some dots as to why undetected ALS may have been affecting her ability to protect her head in that fall, which was initially confusing to me because when she was in the process of being diagnosed, she seemed to be very hyperreflexic (I didn't realize at the time that this was occurring mostly in her lower extremities during the testing process). Anyway, I realize it's unrelated to this video, but I thought you might like to know that you have improved my understanding of what my mom is going through. I'm very interested in medicine and I wish I had it in me to go to medical school. The human body is fascinating (and scary at times for situations like my mom's 🥺).

[@Frau.Kanzlerin]

Please correct me if I've misunderstood something. 😅 Seems like you have associated the issue with the moro reflex to brain injury, which wouldn't have been the case for my mom prior to impact. 🤔

[@JewishBettor]

God bless 🙏❤

[@oh_my_science]

I know I'm commenting on an old note, but I just wanted to say that you're wonderful. I hope you & your close ones are doing well.

[@Dryblack1]

Same boat with my mom. Hope you're doing better than I am.

[@mike79patton]

Bread and circuses. We as a society are completely fucked in the head.

[@friedrichjunzt]

It has always been like this, so we could complain about the lack of progress, but not what society likes or not. 😕

[@user-to1su2iy4d]

Speak for yourself. There always have and always will be dummies in the world, they don't represent all of us.

[@gehtdianschasau8372]

In combat sport, it's over, when someone is unable to defend them self. In slap"fighting" it starts with someone not defending. But i like how Dana is ruining the credibility of UFC in the process. He has once again shown, that he doesn't care about the health of his employees.

[@piedpiper1172]

Health of his contract workers* He explicitly and deliberately makes sure they aren’t actually employees

[@PieLane]

Hope you do more content about this "sport" and other combat sports. Would love to listen to an experienced person on things like this.

[@RichHilsden]

I might bring a doctor that has been a fight doctor in the past to talk about these events

[@luceatlux7087]

@@RichHilsden That would be fascinating. Just in regards to boxing, I've always wondered how they make decisions regarding such extreme situations. How do you tell someone who's likely concussed and whose face is split open to go back out? What are you looking for specifically when you DO call the fight off?

[@MrLoobu]

How is it a sport.

[@enkibumbu]

Thank you. Spread the word. This is not OK. This is not on par with MMA. This is taking full power unprotected blows to the head. It's not a sport. It's abuse and exploitation of desperately poor people.

[@voluntarism335]

This sport is for men, MMA is for babies

[@NapoleonBlownapartMMA]

Hi Rich, I wonder would you be able to have a chat either via email or zoom some time about your thoughts on power slap for an upcoming video I'm making on the subject? I'd just like to get a proper medical experts opinion on this!

[@RichHilsden]

Happy to. Probably best to reach out to me in instagram.

[@NapoleonBlownapartMMA]

@@RichHilsden that would be fantastic! Ill have my wife contact you there, as I dont have IG myself!!

[@GaryNac]

A big part of the problem with power slap/slap fighting is that the slaps aren't even necessarily slaps there more like palm strikes.

[@snoutysnouterson]

They're, not there. You clown.

[@WobblesandBean]

8:55 I don't think I agree. These men didn't go to medical school because they wanted to help people. They went to medical school because they wanted the money and prestige that comes with being a doctor.

[@curtisbogue3707]

How could he possibly be ok? He didn't even know what happened.

[@AlvinDema]

This is exactly what I’ve been saying all the time. Thank you for bringing it up. This is not a sport, it’s just using people for entertainment.

[@garagegrunt8154]

Thank you for putting this out there, most people don’t think about long term side effects!

[@MargoIndigo]

i’ve always wondered when shows like this come out if all physicians collectively let out a gigantically disappointed and extremely concerned sigh

[@Ken-er9cq]

I was involved in evaluating a research students work that was accidentally injured in Taekwondo. After 6 month she still had memory troubles. I expect we will be hearing a lot more about head injuries in the future.

[@andreahighsides7756]

No we won’t. There is too much money in denying it for the NFL and other sports. We have known about TBIs and CTE for a long time now

[@dominiqueritchey6795]

Good on you for speaking out

[@KnightlyRogue2]

I have always hated slapping competitions. It isn't "cool" or "fun" for someone to stand there taking palm strikes to the face. In any other sport of physical combat, if you DON'T defend yourself, you are DQ'd. In this, if you DO defend yourself, you are DQ'd. That is the opposite of safe.

[@vampluvrgirl]

i’m a new nurse and i know that this posturing is a very bad sign of bad brain injury most likely leading to death but i had no idea it could happen immediately after the blow to the head and at first look of the guy w his arms and legs out i went huh that reminds me of the baby startle reflex and then you mentioned it my hunches were right!!

[@i_shiizzo2833]

This channel deserves more views and subscribers

[@RichHilsden]

Thank you.

[@zeeshawn15]

Man it's nuts how Dana got this "sport" commissioned... every combat sport gives a person the ability to defend themselves but in slap fighting you must stand and take the strike...

[@metalfan4u]

Money, lots and lots of money

[@irieite9666]

One of the commissioners is literally an employee of the owners of Powerslap the Fertitas.

[@HELLios6]

This was very well put and a very concise presentation. Nice video.

[@woodland5325]

Another aspect of this is that they are going on show where they have to keep getting concussions on the verge of being knocked out, then do it all again on a few weeks.

[@blstewart001]

If they keep this up eventually someone would die. Can you imagine the results of a serious concussion once a week over a sustained period of time?!

[@kumar2ji]

Indeed! It shows the deteriorating psychology of humanity. Extraordinary. and thank you for bringing this subject to light.

[@obiwongaming]

Good video, I've been a fan of combat sports for a long time. I enjoyed your comparison and analysis. One comment I wanted to make is the on the Moro reflex, I've never heard that used to descript the body's response to a knockout. I've only ever heard of it referred to as a "fencing response".

[@sherrieludwig508]

I have been concussed, once, in my late twenties. I was tossed off a horse at a riding competition. I was wearing an approved helmet, and was out only a second or two. The nurse came out to me as I was walking back to the gate, and asked me, did I know where I was, what day was it, etc. I answered that it was the Sunday before Memorial Day, I was in Ft. Atkinson Wisconsin. Then, I stopped and said, "But I don't remember yesterday." I felt otherwise fine, no vision problem, no headache, but I was a bit...off...for the next couple of days, like jet-lagged or sleep deprived kind of not alert. Probably lost a point or two off my IQ there.

[@mimimosa259]

Hope you’re doing better now!

[@johndoe6050]

HUGE respect for you calling out this "sport" and the doctors who are selling out to promote this barbarism.

[@NightShade1161]

I have had three major concussions in my life, and I can tell you about any doubt that they caused absolute permanent problems!! And I can guarantee you that these people are getting concussions that were way way worse than mine. I can’t even believe people watch this garbage. I cannot believe that people pay to see torment like this. It’s disgusting. and any doctor of any kind condoning this or trying to make excuses and gaslighting themselves into believing it is OK you are disgusting. You’re not a doctor. You’re a menace.

[@DWILLMVP1]

We love to compare ourselves to the ancient Romans and say how barbaric they were watching gladiators die in the Colosseum, yet this Slap contest is essentially the same, but it will just take more slaps to finally bring someone to their grave.

[@gabrielho1874]

Btw, gladiators are expensive and they don't always die. Otherwise, they'll have to pay insurance to the sponsor/owner of the loser.

[@GogiRegion]

Gladiators generally lived for an average of 10 fights, if I remember correctly.

[@stevepalpatine2828]

Gladiator fights were rarely to the death except for special events. Gladiators diet was geared towards them building surface fat and the attacks were mainly slashes that would deliver superficial bloody wounds that looked imptessive for the crowd but didnt usually damage underlying muscle or major blood vessels/organs. It was rare for gladiator fights to be to the death. Gladiators were always slaves, they would sign contracts for a certain number of fights.

[@stephenbouldin8163]

A company owner and superintendent were recently charged criminally for a cave in that killed a construction worker. The same liability should exist for Dana White. OSHA should have oversight of all people earning money in exchange for services.

[@ItsFreeVRealEstate]

Just a matter of time before someone actually dies during an event

[@PrisonBecky]

I really respect the call out

[@rini6]

I’ve never heard of power slap. This is insane.

[@RealThermoguy]

It is a breath of fresh air to hear a qualified professional tell the truth and call out his own profession to hold them accountable. These guys are getting brain injured while Dana and others capitalize?? I didn't like seeing a video of Dana putting his hands on his wife. With injury or infection there is an inflammatory response that can be seen using non invasive radiology. Progression of infection or physiological changes can be seen and was lectured in accredited medical education. The areas of inflammatory response can be isolated and has been lectured for CME credits required for ongoing medical licensing. There is no higher standard. Here is an example while lecturing in Chicago. We would be asked about specific health issues and whether it could be seen. I did not know that acute pancreatitis was a difficult diagnosis. Patrick Swayze, Michael Landon, Steve Jobs and others died from this. I was asked to look at a young man's shoulder so he strips to the waist and acclimates. Looking over low temperature spans, I told him the shoulder was fine what is up with the abdomen? I asked health professionals what is in the abdomen inflamed and looking like an inverted banana? Note: the image you will see here was to highlight the area of inflammatory response, changing temperature spans allowed isolating sources of inflammation using non invasive radiology. Note: Every pixel is accurate temperature that can be analyzed. thermoguy.com/acute-pancreatitis-can-be-seen-with-100-non-invasive-imaging/

[@Mixed-Media-Arts]

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[@danielgrayling5032]

This was super interesting, thanks.

[@RichHilsden]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@RDC_Autosports]

what surprises me the most is you can’t have that many brains cells to begin with to do this kinda thing. why risk what little you have 😅

[@vman99]

A lot of these guys are desperate people looking for a pay cheque by any means. That’s what makes it worse.

[@danch10]

I love boxing, and boxed for years my self, never was knocked out but this slab stuff is INSANE

[@mikethespike7579]

This is not far off anymore from the ancient Romans' fascination with gladiators fighting to the death.

[@emphasis20]

Of course the longer this "sport" stays around, the more likelihood we will see severe outcomes for multiple people. I can't help but think of the boxers who died not long after their match because of brain damage (Leavander Johnson, Maxim Dadashev, and many more). The obvious difference here is that major defenseless strikes to the head is the key element, highlight selling point, and focal entertainment value. Dana White in particular has a track record of being complicit in not looking after people's best interest over $$$. You would think his recent incident of landing in trouble over a slap coincidentally might prompt him to do some self reflecting, but I'm not so sure about that.

[@RichHilsden]

I agree with you completely. This is quite literally a very rich man profiting from injuring the brains of poor people

[@siddharthbirdi]

@@RichHilsden I have been a fan of combat sports due to the level of skill involved, but this is plain idiotic and a clear exploitation of the poor, atleast you get to defend yourself in other combat sports, this is moronic.

[@WhisperingWempe]

I hope you get the KZbin recognition certified stamp 🎉❤🎉❤

[@MeshMwah]

Awww I can tell how passionate you are about this topic.. this show is horrible. Hope this doesn't last for too much longer. Thank you for using your platform to express the dangers of not only participating in this "sport" but the healthcare professionals who stand behind it just for a check. 😢

[@EdwardScott-c4h]

Well said sir. I once caught a glimpse of this 'sport' and watched it for about a minute. I truly couldn't believe what I was watching. The promoters should be ashamed and the people taking part should be taken to a head injuries unit to see the truth of severe head injury. Maybe then the money wouldn't seem so enticing.

[@Sea-cucumber1151]

Love how in movies the character is knocked out for 5-10 minutes, and miraculously they are told they are ok! No need to go to the hospital. You were unconscious, yes, you need to go to the hospital!

[@DodgeyHodgey]

I'd be super interested in a video explaining the damage caused by leg kicks especially to the knee, where the kick lands above or below the knee surely there is still some damage to the knee itself? Lowkick championships is a good reference.

[@ewokFTW]

Oh ya, never mind the head lol.

[@Hassan1]

Would love another video in regards to this topic

[@jazzbones1]

good job! We need more people like this in America. Speak up for the people.

[@anadubar4819]

👍 👍 👍 Congratulations for speaking such clear words to members of your own profession.

[@dustybookshelves2948]

Ugh, thank you for being clear & vocal about this. Didn't hear about this fresh hell back when the response was posted & now see another (intercranial) event is scheduled for late October 2023. Perhaps trauma & neuro content creators could collaborate on an educational campaign to coincide with it. I'll put a few more thoughts about that at the end of this post. I only took about 20 hours of undergrad & grad neuroscience, a mere rounding error compared to the study undertaken by experts, but this being permissible (i.e. venues could refuse bookings, Vegas could intervene on behalf of public health, etc.) & seen as entertaining signals to me that two IMMENSELY important things are still not understood by the public: 1) Evidently, there's widespread ignorance about the medical gravity of the reflex you mentioned, which (like @obiwongaming mentioned) I also primarily hear called as the 'fencing' reflex or response. Perhaps the instinctive alarm it prompts in most who witness it isn't enough to make Concussion Clash "unentertaining," but people need to know if they see a child exhibit it in sports, or witness an assault, etc., etc. it MUST be mentioned ASAP to medics, first responders, family members of the concussed, or whoever is responsible for med intervention in a setting. Life or death matter at worst, (hopefully) shapes approach to monitoring/treatment at best. 2) After DECADES of discussion of CTE in contact sports... somehow, it seems the 'second impact' or 'consecutive impact' problem has failed to really sink in? Sports involve something other than head trauma, at least. This is nothing but rounds of head trauma. Agree with @DruSolis mentioning this is the ultimate deconstruction of sport, simple & repulsive trade of health in hope of reward. But I don't actually fear our human brutishness most in all this. Our base selves are a double-edged sword, sometimes aiding survival in unfathomable circumstances, sometimes piquing fascination with degrading exploitation like these "fights." What I REALLY fear is shrugging, feeling the normalizing of the lowest & cruelest is inevitable. Everyone speaking out is saying we can choose better, and I believe that's true. Finally, if a head injury commentary & education project was taken up by content creators to coincide with a future bout, I really think eSports organizations might join in and help amplify the endeavor. Many of these orgs have invested heavily in competitor wellness as a path to improved performance in recent years, and gamers at large are invisible participants in profitability of fighting events as a significant percentage of under-40 folks within sports betting. Liquid eSports, in particular, seems to have an awareness-raising organizational pillar in alignment with the medical community on this topic.

[@stephendanner4132]

This so needs to be outlawed! I don't understand how people don't cherish their brains as invaluable! You can't put a price on it. I wouldn't do that so called sport for millions of dollars. Say the winner doesn't get knocked out but gets slapped hard a few times. How often does he have a match? How do they possibly think the constant hits to the head won't affect their brains? Mind boggling to me.

[@Morrie-queens]

These people are definitely of a certain intelligence. 😂

[@michaeld308]

I heard somewhere that actually bare knuckle fighting is the most fair and humane version of boxing. Cause you can break your hand when trying to hit someone skull too hard. So the blows to the head are less. And as stated in the video there has to be some skill and tactics involved. But because it was so gruesome for the mainstream, someone suggested to use cloves.

[@roryk8693]

All this not even to mention the long-term effects these kinds of injuries can have on the lives of these athletes and their loved ones. Traumatic brain injuries are being linked to future domestic violence incidents that often result in serious injuries or even murder more and more as the cases just continue to stack up. It's genuinely horrifying to me that there's an entire sport based around inflicting this type of injury and that no one is considering the repercussions and putting an immediate stop to it.

[@Irisedpig]

holy SHIT. i knew about a few postures associated with severe brain injury but i had no idea that reflexes like the moro reflex could be triggered by a brain injury/concussion as well. really interesting but so depressing as well to see this "sport" in action

[@LightLovesU]

I watched slap fighting when it first started and the main rules were: No flinching, No stepping, NO CLUBBING. What Dana is doing isn’t slap fighting anymore, it’s just clubbing. In the original league was mostly volunteers and things were stopped if they tapped out or if they even stepped back after the slap. People were disqualified for smacking with their palms and they could even lose their position in the league. I hate how Dana has taken this and warped it to something legitimately dangerous. I am incredibly disappointed as an og fan. I much preferred when fights were usually for fun at events with some occasional money on the side and not encouraged to be death matches.

[@jon9103]

Have they learned nothing from the NFL's issues with CTE? The promoters should be sued until they are bankrupt many times over and face criminal charges.

[@nadinesmith-jensen7732]

I have asked what damage it causes when they get slapped directly on the ear. All of them fall when they’ve been hit on the ear because it affects their equilibrium. My concern is the damage it causes the ear and brain.

[@MickAngelhere]

I’ve been knocked unconscious twice and I know that it’s having an impact and I do wonder as to how much in the future it will affect me. This Power slap isn’t a sport , it’s just sheer brutality and stupidity. It’s not like a Hollywood movie when the hero gets smacked on the head with a kitchen sink or an iron bar, then they wake up and walk away as if nothing has happened.

[@brentknudson4485]

Thank you for exposing this terrible spectacle for what it is. The young men participating do not realize the risks and damages they are encountering for themselves and their opponents.

[@jademoon7938]

Power slap is on par with making a competition where you have to sit in a car as a crash test dummy and whoever can do the most crashes wins. Like, there’s no skill involved in taking hits like that, there’s no way to protect yourself or use a strategy to reduce the damage. You’re literally just doing catastrophic damage to your brain and spine. And seeing who can keep getting back up. Might as well sit through multiple car accidents to see who can keep going. For all the skill being used. It’s genuinely the dumbest competition. Every single person who participates gets CTE as a prize.

[@alliesong77]

I played rugby and I was knocked unconscious once and sustained 3 concussions. I have epilepsy now and it’s unknown if those injuries were the cause, but I always wonder.

[@bobslop9136]

One fight basically results in at least one concussion.

[@zoepadmore9922]

The thing is, it's not a slap. The heel of the hand slams into the jaw. Essentially, it's a full-strength punch (uppercut?) with no defence allowed.

[@Bumblebeerocks23]

Head injuries should ALWAYS be taken seriously. Even a mild fall can kill you if you hit your head if you're unlucky enough. Your brain is so insanely sensitive that ANY injury could become dangerous and/or life threatening in minutes or even seconds. If you hit your head, even just slightly, take a minute to sit down and rest. PLEASE try to go to the doctor if you can. Treat ALL head injuries with extreme care and caution.

[@maxmuller6730]

the guys taking part in slap league dont take it serious because slap sounds harmless and implies its not serious but thats wrong. they also always talk about slapping the sh** out of each other which makes it sound less serious and more like a game.

[@BrianG-x4u]

I used to box but we all wore headgear. I wonder about the old time boxers that fought bare knuckle.

[@becky2235]

I've had 14 confirmed concussions (dont know how many unconfirmed) due to severe domestic violence in the past. I now suffer with memory loss and seizures. Is there anything i can do to help reduce the effects the concussions had? Thank you

[@SHDW-nf2ki]

The thing about Power Slap that pisses me off is not the potential CTE or other issues, cause combat sports have always been dangerous. Power Slap breaks two cardnal rules of combat sports 1: you are not allowed to defend yourself. In every other combat sport, even something like pro wrestling that is "fake" the match is supposed to end when one person cannot defend themselves. In power slap you are disqualified for attempting to protect yourself. 2: Its not a slap! Look at the way they strike eachother, that is an open palm strike landing with the flat of the hand just behind the fingers. Not the palm or butt of the hand near the wrist below the thumb. palm strikes are band in literally every martial art because they are far, FAR more damaging than punches could ever be. A blow that would break all four of your knuckles and ruin your hand while leaving your opponent unharmed becomes borderline lethal when delivered as a palm strike.

[@InkGraffiti]

the fact that when the man wakes up his entire face is freaking blue isn't an indicator that they need to stop?? what a ridiculous sport

[@Nataleigh0997]

Agreed! Absolutely disturbing activity without a doubt. Thank doctor for taking the time to make this video. The participants in this show are certainly at risk of life long TBI’s. Degenerate producers that clearly do not value the lives of others. I cannot fathom allowing someone to participate in this type of ‘sport’.

[@keithlorino5234]

Thank you doc for releasing this

[@danrebeiz4598]

The idea behind combat sports is trying to avoid getting hit while trying to hit your opponent. Slap-fighting is the only combat sport I’ve ever heard of that forbids you from defending yourself, or at least avoiding getting hit

[@andresmarroquin576]

Hi Doctor, I have found your video very interesting. Brain injury topics have caught my attention since my father had a head trauma due to a fall at his house, neurologists told me he was very lucky to survive and not being paralyzed, he had a brain bleeding that did not require surgery, he was under anti seizure meds, blood thiners and a med to control a heart arrhythmia that developed due to the brain trauma, after 3 months in a nursing home he is back at home, he is rejecting the idea of living in a supported living facility, he was declared mentaly competent to make his decisions, my question is, is still safe if I lift him up when he falls and presses the life alert button? Or from now and on it is better if at every fall we should instead call an ambulance and taking him back to hospital? Thanks for your advise and hope you have a wonderful day.

[@MrTheatre2]

Well said Dr Its appalling. When it appeared in my facebook feed I immediately shut it down.Shocking violation of a physicians oath

[@rmp5s]

But people FREAKED OUT about the bare knuckle stuff where basically no one gets knocked out. Makes ZERO sense.

[@arianamaria_]

Not that I’m defending anything but when I first saw that clip, I thought the guy saying “you’re okay” wasn’t him lying to convince him to keep going, but rather to calm the patient who is waking up very disoriented and agitated.

[@donscheid97]

Pro boxing and wrestling are not exciting enough. I recall years ago a news agency interviewed a shooting victim of a rival gang (he was the initiator) about being shot, he said he hadn't thought it would hurt so much. They have no concept of consequences, if they survive to get old, they become much more careful.

[@lisabettis1486]

This is gonna sound terrible but the first thing I thought of is when you smack a big spider and its legs curl in. Then all the sudden springs of back to life 😂

[@WhichDoctor1]

it's just identifying the most dangerous and unacceptable part of boxing, MMA, American football, isolating that incredibly dangerous thing, and making that into its own stand-alone sport

[@tom-xf9xs]

Look, as long as the contestants are made aware of the risks, it's their choice. Again, the key is to make them aware.

[@chengsaechao6586]

8:30 I'm not even a Dr. and this made me apologize and hang up my stethoscope.

[@jesusvera7941]

this has been said many times but nonetheless we need to keep saying it, power slap is not a combat sport because there is no combat, you cant develop defensive techniques to protect you and increase your durability, so correspondingly you only focus on improving the energy of your slap, so we are scaling into more severe head injuries to the point, the first one getting slapped is the one that will lose, that is not a sport, thats someone hitting his head on the wall, analogy terrifyingly accurate.

[@Ayatron34]

Dana White may as well bring back Roman gladiator matches at this point. Instead of stadiums we build coliseums.

[@nicholasobst6892]

Fun fact the head slap is illegal in NFL football for the reason it was seen a attempt to injure ...in 1977 😢