Fasting & Nutrition Protocols for Longevity & Disease Prevention w/ Valter Longo | Rich Roll Podcast

[@rajayogawithfred4718]

I have to say Rich, you are one of the best podcaster/interviewers I've seen. No one else has the patience to let people speak. When you do comment it's usually to summarise or expand, not just give your opinion. It's so rare to see. Thanks for the great quality content, it's so appreciated.

[@LTPottenger]

Great topic, too! Some of the many benefits of fasting and a lower carb whole food diet on the immune system, blood pressure, blood sugar and anti-aging, all backed up by clinical data: Thymus stem cells are regenerated, which suppresses aging and renews the immune system. Fasting stimulates phagocytosis, the ingestion of bacteria and viruses by the immune system. Blood pressure is quickly and dramatically lowered, which is very important for a good outcome with the current pandemic. Fasting increases nitric oxide, which has manifold postive effects like reducing arterial plaque. Weight loss from fasting only loses10% lean tissue and 90% fat compared to the typical 25% lean tissue and 75% fat lost when calorically restricting for long periods. Blood clotting is reduced and blood clots and arterial plaque are reabsorbed into the body. Vitamin D plasma levels are increased, and vitamin D in turn increases autophagy! Blood sugar and insulin are lowered, allowing white blood cells to move more freely throughout the body and do their job. Ideal blood sugar is around 80. Some viruses activate glycolosis (the release of sugar in the body) and clinically it has been shown that decreasing glucose metabolism in the body weakens the influenza virus. Fasts of several days will not affect short term female fertility and may increase long term fertility especially in women with PCOS. It's absolutely fine for cortisol to be high while fasting, because it produces sugar from fat instead of lean tissue kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZqodZSar9R4qNU Does the body prefernetially prefer glucose as a fuel? No, it never uses mainly glucose for fuel and using glucose for fuel is very biochemically damaging! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJeUm6qDl9uBrtk The hormone Leptin is an immunomodulator that keeps the body from attacking itself and obesity causes leptin resistance. Fasting very quickly reduces leptin resistance and leptin levels and one day of fasting can cut your leptin levels in half and gets your immune system working properly again! When you move out of MTOR your body shuts down the building blocks of the cell which are used to produce organelles and proteins. This means the mechanisms needed by viruses to replicate are by and large unavailable when you are in a deeply fasted state. It stimulates the AMPK complex and activates autophagy. Autophagy (literally self eating) will cause cells to recycle foreign matter such as viruses and kill cancerous and senescent cells. AMPK does many helpful things in the body including activating the body's antioxidant defenses. Does fasting burn muscle? In most cases no! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpa0epSLa9yjaNE Fasting can make you gain muscle faster: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4OwaXqIr9h8f8k Deep ketosis virtually eliminates chronic inflammation in the body. This can offset the life threatening symptoms of viral pneumonia which effectively kills you through inflammation. This also creates BHB ketones in your body, which also help your immune system and anti-oxidative system, especially in the brain. Ketones also provide an additional energy source during infection, which is critical when trying to fight off a bug. In fact you can have as much as three times the total energy available in your blood when you are in deep ketosis, or even more. It increases mitochondrial function and repairs mitichondrial DNA, leading to improved ATP production and oxygen efficiency and thereby making cells better able to fight off infection. Increased mitochondrial function also has the added benefit of increasing your metabolism and cancer prevention! Fasts from 36-96 h actually INCREASE metabolic rate! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJamkJp_h5eNZ5Y Your body releases interferon which is also triggered by the body during viral attacks to shut down the replication ability of the surrounding cells and stop infections. After 72 hours or more fasted, your body actually recycles large numbers of immune bodies and creates new ones, rejuvenating your entire system. When you fast, this stimulates apoptosis in senescent or genetically damaged cells. This kills these cells off completely. Senescent cells are responsible for the effects of aging and are the root cause of the development of cancer. If it were possible to destroy them all it would completely stop aging and cancer. That is not possible but fasting can help limit these effects by killing off many of the affected cells and limiting the future effects of aging. Fasting also releases BDNF and NGF in the blood which stimulates new nerve and brain cell growth, helping a great deal with diseases like MS, peripheral neuropathy and Alzheimers. In fact, the biochemical regulator of BDNF production is beta-hydroxybutyrate, which is the same ketone the body produces to nourish the brain while fasting. Autophagy induced by fasting even helps hair regrow. What breaks a fast? kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZK1faZ5pd2sadE Dieters losing weight through intermittent fasting show greater reduction in waist size and increase in insulin sensitivity for the same weight lost and alternate day fasters were shown to lose fat while gaining muscle at the same time over a six month period. Does fasting lower testosterone? No, it raises it and builds muscle! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHu4daiZd7ypatU Fasting has been shown to increase bone marrow volume by 10% and levels of carnosine in the body in as little as a few weeks. Fasting also increases telomere length, negating some of the effects of aging at a cellular level. Eating one meal a day can bring most of these benefits to a lesser degree, and adding a few entire days off from eating per week will have even more effect especially when starting to feel poorly. Exogenous ketones can aid with fasting, making it easier in healthy people and allowing some people with specific issues to fast in spite of them without worrying as much about hypoglycemia. Children, pregnant or nursing women should not fast for periods longer than 16 hours. People with pancreatic tumors or certain forms of hypoglycemia generally cannot fast at all. Type 1 diabetics can also fast but it is more complicated and should be approached with caution as it could lead to ketoacidosis. Those with Addison's disease may also be unable to fast without liberal use of exogenous ketones, depending on severity. If you experience extreme symptoms of some kind, especially dizziness then simply break the fast and seek advice. Resources: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7714088/ pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6859089/ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23876457 repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1537&context=edissertations www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(19)30849-9 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25686106 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24905167 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10859646 www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0005272806000223 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1413655/ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2815756/ www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/abstract/S1550-4131(15)00224-7 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/25712 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1779438/ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10232622 academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/81/1/69/4607679 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3017674/ www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1931312809002832 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5895342/ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6526871/ www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001176 pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23408502/ pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27569118/ pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21410865/ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6407435/ www.arcjournals.org/pdfs/ijrsb/v3-i11/7.pdf www.amjmedsci.org/article/S0002-9629%2815%2900027-0/fulltext pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20921964/ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6141719/ faseb.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1096/fasebj.2019.33.1_supplement.819.10 www.biorxiv.org/node/93305.full pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25909219/ clinical.diabetesjournals.org/content/36/3/217 europepmc.org/article/MED/22402737?javascript_support=no onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2265.2005.02288.x www.collective-evolution.com/2017/05/16/study-shows-how-fasting-for-3-days-can-regenerate-your-entire-immune-system/ www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/abundance-of-fructose-not-good-for-the-liver-heart holistickenko.com/vitamin-d-kidney-liver-disease/ n.neurology.org/content/88/16_Supplement/P3.090 This list compiled over months of research by the user known as Pottenger's Human on youtube but feel free to copy and paste this anywhere you like, no accreditation needed! My channel which will always contain an updated list of fasting benefits: kzbin.info/door/MC_ZrmTUTGdQiIwJjZq1rg I have playlists on fasting and health and wellness. I also make a little commentary comment on health and fitness as well. When I have community posts available I will make a community post with this list that has a permanent link but which will remain editable and keep a fresh copy there at all times!

[@terryzdallas]

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[@davidplyler8173]

I agree one of the few food based guys like this. Most are like listening to a religious program.

[@juliekailihiwa8150]

no kidding...it's so refreshing...reminds me of Phil Donahue days.

[@suzanbak1]

Yes!!

[@bekkaadair854]

I did actually fast 42-48 hrs/weekly for 3 years. it stabilized my weight, cleared my head and I felt amazing. It requires serious discipline but it’s so worth it! I fell off the wagon during covid combined with a few other life stressors but i’m working my way back to that practice!

[@veneta72]

Did he say this was a good thing to do? So many words it’s like ok what is good?

[@lynchs2441]

@@veneta72 No he doesn't. Based on Dr. Longo's book and other interviews. He believes that the best approach is every day vegan diet (a lot of legumes) + 2-3 fish (smaller ones) per week and combine it with 1-4 times a year (depends on current health - once a year for healthy individual etc.) 5 days fast. But 5 days water fast is difficult for many, so he developed FMD (Fast Mimicking Diet) to help people get through it.

[@richardhardy4243]

@@lynchs2441 Great summary!

[@iandoherty9089]

@@lynchs2441 5 day fast are you out of your mind ? Ill start with 1 i think

[@hotchicsf]

@@lynchs2441 So...five days water and two days food? I don't think I can survive eating like that every day for a month, let alone years. No thanks. I'm on my OMAD and I eat whatever the heck I want and it works great for me.

[@spazehdreams]

Fasting is good for me and it reduces all kinds of inflammation. I will keep fasting until my last day on this earth.

[@tiredbanti7412]

Mr Longo, I was on a high cab diet for most of my life and always struggled with weight. March 29, 2022 I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, I weighted 340 pounds, high blood pressure, my blood sugar was 700 , my A1C was 14 , triglycerides were over 300, HDL was over 250 and my doctor immediately put me on 100 units of insulin a day, 1000 mg of Metformin a day and I was told by a hospital dietitian to eat 35-50 g of cabs per meal to fed my insulin, omg within a space of a month I gained 40 more pounds and my diabetes was getting worse couldn’t walk 400 feet without being tired or gasping for air. I started looking up videos here on KZbin and I found videos of low cab diets , cutting sugars and intermittent fasting and long fasting. I started by cutting all sugars and went low carb and intermittent fast every two weeks I was increasing my fasting. First I skipped my breakfast , just ate lunch and dinner , now I am currently OMED feeling amazing. Within a space of 8 months I lost 160 pounds and my a1c dropped from 14 to 5.1 within months and my doctor couldn’t believe it.Now blood sugar is running between lower 70s before meals and 100 after eating. And most of the day they are lower 80s. So I will stick with my low carb high fats ,intermittent fasting for the rest of my life, it works perfect for me. And it saved me from diabetes and it’s complications. Shoutout to Dr Berg, Dr Jason Fung, Dr Eric Lusting, Dr Casey Means your videos saved my life.

[@k.h.6991]

It's great that you lost weight, and that you cut out simple carbs. However, long term you do need fiber - which is found only in plant foods.

[@caroleandersen3341]

@@k.h.6991not true. Show me the research. I can provide this just off the top… Before the introduction of processed Western foods, the Inuit thrived for millennia consuming an essentially carnivorous diet devoid of nearly all plant foods. Though the traditional Inuit dietary pattern contradicts modern nutritional dogma, studies show they had robust health and remarkably low incidences of modern diseases, including heart disease, type 2 diabetes, cancer, and osteoporosis.

[@greentree_]

What kind of high carb were you eating for most of your life? That’s the most important question. There are different types: healthy non-obesogenic ones AND unhealthy obesogenic ones. If you gained much weight I doubt you were on the first type. Plus ate an excess of calories.

[@ruthrainous3068]

Amen...I'm not sure this guy knows that he is talking about. I am doing the intermittent fasting and the ketogenic diet, and have lost 51 pounds so far. I do think my eating some occasional bread, sweet potatoes, or beans does make me feel better-- but this is usually just one meal per week. I suspect that my cheating is giving me micronutrients or helping my microbiom somehow, but I am only guessing... keep up the hard work.. It is working.

[@cindysmallwood2695]

@@ruthrainous3068 classic, he's only studied it with a full team for years. We all know more than the scientists. You lost weight, kudos. But you have no idea whether your longevity is changed from keto diet, he's studying longevity with FMD and the longevity diet. You're an N of 1.

[@dawalama2177]

I don’t always fast but when I do, I make sure to follow Dr Valter Longo.

[@andygolfsit5559]

Cool, so how do you fast? I’ve been following Prof David Sinclair’s initial advice of fasting 16/8; eating from 12pm to 8pm roughly! From what Dr Valter Longo is saying, it’s best not to go over 12 hours of fasting?!

[@emmanuelking9988]

@@andygolfsit5559 Dr. Mindy Pelz's channel covers fasting at length.

[@dawalama2177]

@@andygolfsit5559 Before Following Dr Longo I was also following David Sinclair’s 16/8 and OMAD, & Dr Jason Fung, but ever since I herd Dr Longo first interview on Rich Roll I started 2 meal just to play safe, I have also done my first 5 days water only fasting.

[@polymath6475]

@@dawalama2177 I've been on OMAD for fifteen years with 2 hr eating window. Just my normal lifestyle, and won't change just because someone says it should be two meals.

[@annabergmann3603]

@@polymath6475 Yes, I agree. And drop breakfast, not as he say to to eat always breakfast. And in addition, this is a part of his business, to sell this program FMD.

[@jwmcneelyIII]

Love all the discussion around the social aspects of adhering to a healthy diet. I am the only WFPB diet practitioner I know. My wife doesn't even agree. At family gatherings, many people think I am too severe or possibly some kind of "woke" weirdo, and if they can get me to "slip up" they express satisfaction and delight. Navigating this socially has been the main way I've found success in maintaining a healthy lifestyle, because these situations happen on a very regular basis. I've basically told everyone, please don't worry about me, I am responsible for what I eat and I don't want to burden you with worrying about it. If you don't like what I'm doing or you're worried that I'm not getting enough fat or protein or whatever, I'll be happy to share lots of scientific studies and evidence about this. If not, I'm happy to pursue my own path and freedom in enjoying what I like to eat for my health. That seems to be actually working. If you say, "I'm going to plan for these situations and bring my own food," I have found that isn't enough. You have to actually engage with the social opposition and in a kind way make it very clear that you have no intention of bending. There's also the fact that I've visibly lost weight and that my story includes radical health benefits like reversing high cholesterol and heart problems and various digestive issues.

[@dreamervanroom]

Someone else the Buddha or you a man or a god? The answer, I am awake. Woke is good.

[@daveschreiner413]

Or just say no thank you.

[@nonfictionone]

The human animal is tribal. We try to ignore this but it is as much a part of us as our feet are. You’re experiencing tribalism in practice. They’re worried you’re not in their tribe anymore.

[@shellyweber3635]

I get this when I go to family functions. Or recently when I attended a friendsgiving

[@sugarplumk2381]

Great strategy. I find that some people take delight in offering and insisting other people eat things that are clearly unhealthy. If you say no it feels like you’ve insulted them and nobody should be made to feel like that.

[@trishmarck7798]

"confusion is definitely our product" well said Rich and so true...we must break this paradigm. Hands down to Dr Longo and his team....wishing this becomes FDA approved. Can you imagine a world of healthy people???

[@lauraanderson5407]

What I don't imagine is fasting approved by the FDA, as I have no respect for them.

[@Simon-pl2zi]

You will be waiting a very long time. Prescription drugs are the fourth leading cause of death and all of them approved by FDA. The FDA is not about protecting people’s health.

[@shelbycarpenter5814]

Unfortunately most people won't follow it they want their quick fix

[@jbidwell605]

I love the Prolon programme. I have been using the Prolon fasting mimicking every month for over a year. (I live in Europe, so I get my deliveries from Italy). I always feel so great after I use the programme. I highly recommend it. I sleep better and I feel better. I notice if I stay away from animal products my body heals so much faster after exercise. I adore Dr Longo. Thank you for this interview!

[@blisskirtanyoga]

Can u do the FMD every month? I thought he said 3-4 times a year ? Thanks 🙏

[@jbidwell605]

@@blisskirtanyoga yes, for the very sickly; I’ve been very Ill with inflammation and still have some fat to lose. If I were healthy I would do it 3/4 times a year. I use it as a reset, especially if I’m feeling unwell.

[@eugeniebreida1583]

@@jbidwell605 Good for you, so glad to hear of your succeses w/‘European prolon’.

[@angelsandocean2853]

Thank you, I am starting my first kit

[@Suzanna-wh3nr]

What is this please?

[@VaneezyTV]

This has to be one of my favorite episodes, if not THE. You can tell how much he loves and cares about people, through the way he simplifies his research to where anyone can understand it. 👏🏽👏🏽

[@jacobdiden8967]

you dont know what you are talking about.

[@hendotremendo]

YES!!!!!!!!!! I have been waiting for this one!!!! I read BOTH of their books (Longevity Diet & Finding Ultra) while in treatment. Absolutely took my life into the atmosphere! Thank you both deeply

[@johnepyttesr8947]

Same here. What luck.

[@gaylemarkow]

great interview. will def. buy the book. I've been 99% plant based for about 8 years when I went from pre-Diabetes to Diabetes with an A1C of 6.5 I dropped it with a plant based diet, but over the years my weight has crept back on and at 74 I also have HTN and osteoporosis. SO frustrated. I think I need to read the book AND get into his clinic. I'm not so much about longevity, but about being in good health for as long as I'm here. Age without health is nothing. Was super intrigued to hear this interview.

[@jaghad]

My advice to you would be to go listen to Shawn Baker interviewing Dr. Ryan Attar. He's talking about diabetes. Secondly, I think you are on the wrong track. Vegan diets work better than SAD, but it's not what your body needs. You can surrvive on vegan diets, but your health will suffer long term. You need to go carnivore and do some resistance training. I am 100% sure that if you do you will turn your life around.

[@vincentlaw6985]

It’s because a vegan diet is just pure sugar. Go carnivore and zero carb if you want to get lean without killing you self with exercise

[@moritz1262]

@@jaghad you couldn't possibly more wrong and it's like you haven't watched a single of those interviews with the worlds best scientists on this podcast. carnivore diet means an early grave and horrible side effects.

[@Ilyasss_rcm]

@@moritz1262 who told you this. All the research he is talking about are people who are combining carbs with high protein but carnivor and animal fats..there is no research on them because it s gonna affect most businesses and big pharma

[@k.h.6991]

I assume you know what you're doing in terms of plant based - but to be sure: do keep the daily dozen in mind. And avoid processed foods. Personally I find that my weight inches up because I don't keep all processed foods from my plate (chocolate is my sin). The ProLon 5-day fasting plan can be done at home and will help you reset your system as well as lose some of those pounds.

[@TheSanbao]

Sorry, I'm 63 years, since 28 months I do much more the path of Dr. Jason Fung, that intermittent fasting is great for myself, every week a full 36 hours fast. Low carb feels fantastic for me. No more plantbased only. Everyday, thx to my dog, I walk one hour, 3 times a week in the fitness studio, rowing and walking on the incline machine. Living in Asia, and feeling healthy and good within myself

[@ingridhuxley9664]

Llll

[@1Ilovethis]

I feel horrible without protein. Plant based makes me soooooo hungry. Higher protein makes me less hungry. I do two 36-42 fast a week. Feel great. Also exercise. I too follow Jason Fung MD and Gabrielle Lyon. I am 64

[@Chris-tw8fu]

Red meat makes me feel fantastic

[@AnTalk_blog]

I would love to hear an interview with David Sinclair and Valter Longo head on comparison. I found some discrepancies in their recommendations. Who to believe?

[@NameIsSteve]

I'd throw longevity MD Peter Attia into that debate.

[@nelsonpozo1]

I as well, one obvious one was he stated we shouldn’t skip breakfast. I personally don’t eat early in the morning. My first meal is between 11-12 pm , with a 13-16 window of intermittent fasting.

[@benpiriz4386]

I concur. Most of these folks talk too much, but do not show curated data.

[@Mimulus2717]

@@nelsonpozo1 Nutrigenomic researcher chiming in here: Dr. Longo is speaking to the average person with these recommendations based on the research findings. It is important to remember there exist those individuals on the tail ends of the response bell curve ...the hypo and hyperresponders. Some persons may do better skipping breakfast. But, on average, the research shows skipping dinner results in better metabolic health.

[@Sunnysue31]

I very much appreciate David Sinclair's work, so interesting and he always references the supporting research... As does Prof Tim Spector ...

[@susanswinny588]

Rich, I appreciate this excellent presentation with Dr Longo. It takes a lot for someone to go against most people's concepts of diet and fasting. But many people are desperate to feel better, especially those with health conditions or very overweight. I just dropped enough weight to be in the overweight BMI (no longer in an obese BMI category). I still have 35 pounds to go. I've change my diet to 80% of calories from whole food plant-based for health reasons by increasing viscous fiber foods and eating an apple or green salad before my meals that are like the Mediterranean diet. I don't eat pasta, refined carbs, ultra-processed foods, salt, oil or added sugar. I fast 12 hours a day, 3 meals a day no snacks. I eat 1 small potato or sweet potato a day cooled for resistant starch. I opted to do this instead of going on a statin drug. My A1C is good. I also began light weight training and core and hip strengthening as I'm in my early 70s. I walk 7000 steps a day presently and still work at a desk job. My doctor thinks it's unbelievable that I'm not on meds. But I only go to her for an annual physical. My guess is she sees a lot of sick people. Hopefully I can manage to remain healthy more years.

[@funkyplaya]

Well, I don't know. I've been doing 16:8 for over 7 years now and I've never felt better. Don't plan on eating breakfast anytime soon.

[@polymath6475]

I've been fasting 22hrs/day for 15 years, no sugar and low carb, fish and wagyu beef with vegetables and eggs. I'm in optimal health. There are many ways chemicals get into the body, for example toothpaste, water, etc. You really need to keep track of your interaction with plastics and chemicals.

[@ytjos222]

Longevity and fasting expert dr peter attia has destroyed this breakfast study.

[@dapawap]

So what are the 5 pillars of anti aging?

[@lindabembridge771]

Brilliant discussion but for me it shows lack of consensus amongst those who should know. For example - I am 100% WFPB and absolutely love this way of eating. I find out now that as I get older I may need to introduce some animal products to stay healthy and to protect against Alzheimer’s - completely contrary to Dean and Aisha Sherzai who are experts in this field - they believe evidence suggests that animal products will hasten this disease. As for longevity, David Sinclair argues that we should fast for long periods daily - he personally eats one meal a day so fasts for around 20 hours daily so that he triggers autophagy. Dr Longo argues that this is damaging and will reduce lifespan rather than extend it!! So what should we do, who should we believe, who is right?? I have no idea and find this incredibly frustrating… I will stick to WFPB as I feel good following this regime - I had been working my way towards one meal a day but this might be damaging… maybe I should stop listening to podcasts!!!!

[@chyfields]

Thank you for this comment. What concerns me most about diet related issues is how best to feed our personal spectrum of vegetarian and carnivorous micro-organisms so that there are sufficient nutrients left over for our needs. My intuition tells me that fasting causes starved micro-organisms to feed on us.

[@lindabembridge771]

Thank you for this - a good point…. My issue is however more with the seemingly differing advice from the experts. Both David Sinclair and Valter Longo are experts in the Longevity space and they both have very different views presumably based upon the same science. What is the layman to do… pick a Guru and hope?

[@briangendron2188]

This is a serious concern of mine after listening to this podcast. Dr. Sinclair made a strong case for IF and skipping breakfast as the easiest way to acquire more hours because it’s anchored after sleep. Now Dr. Longo states the opposite. Both cited evidence to support their claims. As someone who is not an expert in this literature, I defer to the experts, but this seems like a glaring contradiction. I understand that there’s no one-size-fits-all protocol and that it depends on the person, but this seems like a very broad-stroke disagreement between these people. Hoping for clarity asap because I’ve been doing the IF and skipping breakfast for 6 months now. At the end of the day, I love podcasts like this and thank Rich for facilitating this discussion.

[@GauraRader]

Valter never goes beyond the research in anything he says. If a big study says skipping breakfast is bad, he says don't skp breakfast. Others like Dr. Sinclair are a little more willing to speculate based on theory and logic. I think Valter would say, we don't need to speculate, we know this works. But Valter is also more focused on getting the average person healthier and living longer. Dr. Sinclair is trying to live forever and is therefore willing to be a bit more experimental. All that being said, agreed, it is frustrating getting different recommendations from experts. You'd think we would have figured this all out by now!

[@briangendron2188]

@@GauraRader Nicely stated, thx

[@djadams8041]

Longo has got to be the only fasting expert out there who has never met someone willing & able to fast more than 2 days a week. Perhaps he is really a periodic low calorie/high carb expert.

[@missm3999]

Agree

[@johnepyttesr8947]

Agree. His 5 day FMD suggests there aren't a lot of people who can water fast for several days. That said, He may be thinking about the majority of people. I know one person who fasts, of the hundred or so people I know we'll enough to say they eat normally.

[@RichardBuick]

After 12 months of a strict plant based diet & 16/8 IF all my blood markers improved. I didn’t eat after 8pm & skipped breakfast. This is the first time I’ve heard that skipping breakfast is really bad, several other scientists have said it’s not a bad approach. I’m a little concerned now as I haven’t eaten breakfast in over 2 years

[@abenabonsu9447]

Do what works for you. They don’t know everything. If the outcome is good stick to it

[@mybobalu2]

The danger of IF is that the Yo Yo Diet crowd misuses it in the same way they did the Low Fat Diet. This was a great interview though. I was having trouble keeping up with all the new developments and this was like a review of what I missed. I, myself, had a Care Team until recently. I only have High BP, Obesity, IBS, & Prediabetes but my PCP was forward thinking. It looks quite different from the patient's point of view than from the Clinician's. One person told me how to swap out carbs so I could have an occasional dessert. Another one failed to get me an Exercise Coach which is what I really needed. I knew more than most of them about all this from the videos I watch but they didn't mind because I don't have an attitude. They even seem to feel more free to confess their doubts about Medicine to me. I hope it helps.

[@HeibesHealth]

Simon Hill has a couple great podcasts on fasting. I actually had been doing IF for the last two years (16/8 split) only to find out that I probably shouldn’t since I have PCOS. I actually feel a lot better keeping it down to 12 hours of fasting per day and have lost weight since making the change.

[@thecoastalvegan5114]

How was it affecting the PCOS in a negative way by doing 16/8? Very curious!!

[@geertaerts977]

Dr. Longo is very smart. I think next time he will win the Nobel Prize for his anti-aging work (2nd runner up recently).

[@craiglowden5995]

I am really enjoying this discussion. A lot of valuable info. Also quite interesting is that people of Hong Kong have the longest life expectancy in the world. They eat fruits and veggies yet they also eat 12oz to a lb of meat per day

[@jesshatchette]

I love Dr Longo, and the FMD. I did 5 rounds and no longer have symptoms of psoriasis and interstitial cystitis. Big fan.

[@eugeniebreida1583]

I have PsA but fear fasting due to my borderline underweight status. Did you have weight avail to sacrifice in doing your fasting? Thanks…

[@eugeniebreida1583]

Additionally, What spacing between rounds of FMD did you provide yourself? Thanks again!

[@jesshatchette]

I use it once a quarter. It’s not recommended if you are underweight. I am normal weight, so I can stand to lose a few pounds. I have no problem gaining them back after the fast. 😂

[@tivoni]

I listened to this interview yesterday and I'm listening to it again. This is one of the most influential guests ever. My only disagreement is that I believe in eating only a plant based vegan diet.

[@AC7star7]

He did say you can do it vegan. You just need to stay within the protein parameter of 0.8g protein per kilogram weight or 0.35g protein per pound weight. I think he was saying that it’s not uncommon for vegans to also eat too much protein as percentage of overall daily calories. I’m also vegan.

[@uqox]

Clinical health management vs individual health management. I like that Longo makes the distinction between what "a lot" of people wouldn't be able to do long-term vs people in health distress (obesity, cancer, diabetes) who may need longer fasts and weekly 24-hour- fasts (feasting-fasting-feasting) that allow for the emergency-level improvement in health. What I remain interested in is the life of the "blue zone" people. They're not getting their meals in a box every week or so. They are making food choices available to them and perhaps, what's important is putting our respective health first dedicating the time to cook our own foods. However, I feel like Longo and others are leaning into the "unconspired conspiracy" that we are too busy to take care of ourselves so we need powders, supplements, and meal plans in a box. If the pathway to longevity is a fasting-mimicking diet and we're all outraged by the governments, and pharmaceutical companies agreeing to keep us on medicine instead of helping us with weight loss and taking the actions to lose weight, wouldn't it be great if the recipes and instructions for fasting-mimicking meals were free, like (ironically enough) the formula for insulin? Just a thought. Thanks for this discussion. The work put into producing a quality podcast is much appreciated.

[@RosyVilla]

Thank you! I love Dr. V. Kongo! Brilliant show!

[@barbarayorkwoodside3716]

I’ve been One Meal A Day (OMAD) for 3+ years. This past April I got the Coxsacki B virus and now have an autoimmune condition called Oral Lichen Planus. No know cause or cure, unfortunately. It’s a lesion-type disease that effects mucous membranes like your mouth, throat and skin. Stress is a huge factor. I’m beginning to think & wonder if I stressed my body so much through fasting that this was triggered. Just be aware that fasting, in any form, should really come after meeting nutrient needs and not before!

[@hopefully2224]

THIS makes sense! We are all different also. Our diets should be based on what we need.

[@polymath6475]

I've been fasting 22hrs/day for 15 years, no sugar and low carb, fish and wagyu beef with vegetables and eggs. I'm in optimal health. There are many ways chemicals get into the body, for example toothpaste, water, etc.

[@vicvic2081]

It's almost impossible to escape

[@dapawap]

I have also been having one vegan meal a day for years & now I have osteoporosis

[@clownbackpainrick6581]

You can pay attention, what foods make it worser. And sort this foods out (in my case e.g. coffee and seasoned/marinated foods). I have multiple autoimmune issues. It started when I was young with hay fever. That got better with the years. Than I got Lichen planus (in my twenties. Up to now) In my forties it was discoverd, that I have Hashimoto (my only medication Tyroxin now). Recently I feel that something autoimmune is going on in my eyes and colon. My theory is, that my immune system is all the time on high allert. And when it has "nothing to do", it attacks own tissue, cz it cannot stop. And when you have only one food intake, than there is no associated intake of "foreign" cells and bacteria, that are work for the immune system.

[@evy684]

Such an excellent interview. I will be getting his book. Thank You !

[@giovannironchi5332]

Love and thanks from Italy! :)

[@DF-rc5uc]

Where is the evidence to suggest fasting causes cancer ? This goes against so many other studies and theories. I struggle to believe this.

[@marilyndalwis]

Yeah, I'd have to agree with you here. Not to mention so many of the statements he makes seems to conflict with one another

[@monicaraigoza3334]

Wow first time I heard this about fasting and saying that eating pasta it’s ok? Super disappointed

[@MrNagaraj1973]

Absolutely, contradictory talk.

[@foodmistrexxvivian114]

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[@rahulrahul_awsjunkie]

There’s no study. These quotes are motivated by medicine, and process food industries. Calorie restriction (eating less) is different concept from intermittent fasting (which is not to eat at all). This “doctor” is defying what an immense benifit ppl are getting from IF. They don’t abondon this, we have been doing this for ages- when we have access to animals we eat them so that we can remain wo food for long. Perhaps, it also depends on what you eating. A plant based diet will never be able to be accompanied with fasting forget about prolonged fasting :)

[@lindabembridge771]

As a general comment, I am frustrated with the variation in scientific recommendations across the board. Setting that aside however it makes sense to 'pick your expert' and stick with it. I have watched this conversation a few times now, listened to some of his interviews on other Podcasts plus watched the very old BBC Horizon episode on Fasting that Walter Longo took part in (if you are in the UK it can be found on the iPlayer). I decided to change my eating pattern to focus on a fairly full breakfast which includes lots of good proteins, carbs and fruit (I am WFPB) and then eat a light-ish supper at around 6 or 7-ish in the evening - nothing during the day other than water or the odd black coffee or green tea. I must say it's very easy to do both generally and socially. Only about 2 weeks in but I feel pretty good - I have worn a CGM for the last couple of weeks too and all is very steady (no overnight super-dips which have plagued me for years). Might stick to it and abandon all other recommendations... I guess we will see...

[@johnepyttesr8947]

I'm dropping one meal a day. Bigger breakfast, lighter dinner makes more sense. I think Longo has put in the time on studying health and longevity outcomes for different lifestyles. I feel like Sinclair is more invested in mechanisms, pathways, molecules, fascinating as it is.

[@edouardmilan1378]

I'm not so sure I agree that skipping breakfast is bad for you. I've skipped breakfast now for over two years and have been on a plant-based diet for over a year and my health has improved tremendously. I have recovered from several chronic health problems.

[@turtleanton6539]

Breakfast is a made up food😅😅😅

[@MelodyProsser]

I have been fasting for roughly 5.5 years now with the goal of fasting 18 hours each day to lose weight. Listening to this podcast, I find out that fasting 16-18 hours per day causes cancer. I was diagnosed three weeks ago with cancer. Sigh.....the irony. Thankfully I am scheduled for surgery next month and my doctor has not mentioned chemo or radiation, just surgery because it was caught early. Thank you both! 🙏

[@magicsupamoggie]

How does fasting cause cancer? I thought it helped to prevent it?

[@the____echoes]

@@magicsupamoggie Extended or prolonged fasting period is detrimental as told by Valtar! As he also told skipping breakfast can reduce the life expectancy too ! At the end of the day fasting over 16-18+ hours can cause cancer after 10-15 years of consistent fasting over 18 + hours!

[@magicsupamoggie]

@@the____echoes Thank you. I found the whole interview difficult to listen to. I really could not understand his accent too well.

[@the____echoes]

@@magicsupamoggiewelcome bro. Yes bro ! As i am from India , i generally find European accent quite difficult to understand tbh. American accent is easy to understand! Btw i highly criticise what he told about 18 + hours of fasting can cause cancer ! As an audience perspective i am not creating a state of critisism rather a constructive argument about the deep biochemistry of body about the consequences of occurrence of cancer after a large prolonged periods of fasting over 10-12 years of constitent fasting. He should have explained it thoroughly that's why i criticise of not explaining it in easy words 🥺.

[@Frodoswaggns]

1. Cancer is a metabolic disease, knowing this concept I cured my own cancer. Protocol: 1. Wim Hof method via breathing and with 5-10 minute ice baths 2. Plant based keto 3. glutamine blockers(not super needed and be careful) 4.multi day water fasting once a month maybe 5. supplement magnesium malate to maximize mitochondria production via exercise and cold baths. 6. exercise.

[@Ernesto7608]

Longo has a position about fasting that contradicts longevity expert David Sinclair. Sinclair claims that his approach of eating for one hour a day and fasting the other 23 hours is optimum, and promotes longevity. Who is right?

[@wangkenneth]

David looks much younger than valter. 😂 money is on David out living valter

[@rccantrell4436]

They are probably both right because everyone is different and different people can tolerate longer or shorter periods of fasting. There's no way that anyone can say for sure until it has been studied more.

[@Lorvina1]

@@wangkenneth I think they both look great for their age, but it might be just their genetics.

[@randaldurayhim]

I believe Dr Sinclair is right, because Dr berg agrees with him & i have had good results with IF & keto, i is obvious that to succeed in fasting without cravings you need to go keto

[@Lorvina1]

@@randaldurayhim Berg is a chiropractor

[@anastasiailieva7800]

I would like to thank you and also ask if it is possible to bring Dr Longo and Dr Chutkan together or just invite some other expert on and explain what science says about the role of the microbiome in ageing.

[@satyadasgumbyji8956]

4 whatever reason it's harder 4 me 2 fast at 50 yro, but I watched a Sadhguru vid a while back & he mentioned he waits at least 8 hrs between meals, & it only took me a few days 2 adjust & now if I have a busy day, I miss a meal & hardly notice, so if I just drink water or juice, I end up fasting automatically! Water & apples r good too if can't go cold turkey! ✌😎❤

[@grahamdoody9615]

Couldn't agree more. I've listened to Rich and his show from the beginning. In this space, noone touches RR👊

[@kiaranjay5153]

Love this dude. Looking forward to listening soon

[@Spartan21blue]

Very good podcast Rich . You asked the right questions and valter was very generous in sorting things out for us. Yesterday I tried some of his daily nutrient recommendations So I tried pumpernickel bread and spread hazelnut/ chocolate on it , half a Granny Smith apple and half a cup of yoghurt ( personal choice ) .Well these choices of food are so nutrient dense ….I was not hungry at 12 noon , no wonder he eats breakfast and only drinks coffee at lunch time. Brilliant .😊

[@eugeniebreida1583]

Sounds pretty yummy. I wonder if peanut-butter would be acceptable to Longo . . . and whether he’d have a nutritional pref btwn adding a smidgeon of honey vs sugar to put the dark cocoa powder into more appealing format.

[@Spartan21blue]

@@eugeniebreida1583 I reckon what you propose is reasonable Eugene As long as does not increase waist circumference Dr Ted Neiman looks at peoples waist circumference, if it is not what it should be , he knows that have metabolic issues. That is critical to be sure ☺️

[@Zamal512]

Thank you so much for this information. It's very necessary. Blessings to All!

[@johnkennedy1242]

Perhaps they should refer to it total to as "high percentage carbohydrates" diet so people know to keep the 2000 calorie limit per day

[@AMMajed]

I dont know anyone that has done intermittent fasting as much as I have been doing. I have done between 16-20 hours everyday for 3 straight years now. Today, I do it simply because its convenient as I dont like to eat at work anymore however, I can 100% confirm that after somewhere between 1 year and 2 years i regained the weight that I lost and now I can confirm that intermittent fasting does me no good when it comes to intermittent fasting

[@viraltarpara1704]

What good is living long if you’re frail from the longevity diet?

[@k.h.6991]

You won't be frail from the longevity diet.

[@arleenm7367]

Great interview! I did the FMD (Prolon) a couple weeks ago and felt great afterwards. However, it's not vegan because the breakfast bars have honey.

[@fracritel]

I thought there was a vegan option

[@ermolaevatania]

Rich! I beg to finally ask Valter Longo /Peter Attia what specific blood work needs to be done to check for protein deficiency. I've been constantly diagnosed with protein deficiency, but don't want to increase to significantly increase the protein intake as per Valter Longo :(

[@lf7065]

What tests have you had to diagnose it?

[@vincentlaw6985]

It’s because you’re vegan. Plants dont contain the amino acids you need and you are not a cow so you can’t convert the amino acids into the animal form. Maybe have an egg and some fish or meat and you will instantly cure it

[@Arrian1111]

The 5/2 works brilliantly for the self-disciplined. Women drop from 2000 cal to 500 on fast days, and men drop to 600. This diet is my go to in the spring, to diverse myself of the slight weight gain (7lbs or so) after the winter - where I don't restrict and eat lots of butter and cheese, for immunity. In Northern Europe, I think that it's wise to avail yourself of plenty of calories during the winter. Most then switch to the 6/1 after the tidy up (800 fast day/2000 other 6. I've used the 12 - 8 during the winter, but I can eat a great deaer l of extra calories during that window, so it's been of no help. Valter, and his work is quoted extensively by Michael Mosley, who is most closely associated with the 5/2 fasting protocol.

[@catherinekasmer9905]

Interesting info on fasting. I’m close to this approach. More exercise (running) and no fish or oil. I get omega 3 fats from algae supplement plus walnuts, flax.

[@shaun8544]

Did plant base, worst thing I did. No energy, loss of muscle. Went low carb carnivore, results are amazing. EAT MEAT AND THRIVE!!!!!

[@dlbdlb3919]

Rich you are the Best in your field, but I have a question. If I followed what Valter Logo said I would be so much better off then 90% of Americans. But this would be true of following Allan Goldhamer, and also would be true of David Sinclair. But how do you sort out the differences in these protocols ? Thank you.

[@RecoveringAtheist]

At the end Rich talks about how when he eats pasta in Italy he doesn't feel terrible. My guess is because the wheat in Europe is non-gmo. ALL wheat in the US is gmo, even organic

[@alospm]

What I wonder about is, what if a person’s daily routine naturally leads to a 14-16 hour fasting window? I have little kids, so we usually finish supper by 6pm. And I wouldn’t normally eat again until after everyone is out the door in the morning (9-10am). I’m never uncomfortably hungry. Should I be limiting my fast by having a snack when I don’t feel like it, or just keep following my hunger cues and “skipping breakfast” (I put that in quotes because I do eat breakfast, but it’s usually 14-16 hours after I finished supper). I’m sure I’m way overthinking this 😂

[@Therevolution7]

request for interview with Dr Ken Berry and Dr Paul Saladino

[@patterbt]

I have attempted to listen to this podcast twice, so that I can fully understand what is being said. It is pretty complex and I for sure don't know what all of the various Mtor, IGH, and other acronyms mean. I have been doing some research on intermittent fasting lately, and have listened to a few other podcasts talk about how it is good for you (16/8 method) and how the 16 hour window allows the body to do some self repair. I was surprised to hear Dr Vongo say that there is data showing that IF has a bad effect on longevity. I tried to look for more info on IF having a bad effect on longevity, but all I can find is websites that say something to the effect of "there has not been enough long term studies on IF yet, to determine its effect on longevity". So where is this study/data that Dr. Vongo is referring to?

[@vivekrbs]

I am not eating butter chicken and pork vindaloo ever again

[@mikasjoman]

Please ask Longo next time to write a recipie book. Its damn hard to follow and its damn confusing trying to DIY both the FMD but also follwoing the longivity diet.

[@shaynalee]

I’m all confused about intermittent fasting now 😫

[@knbsd3876]

@Shyna lee. Don’t be. Just eat when your body says it’s time. Forget about the clock!

[@k.h.6991]

The problem is the term intermittent fasting is used in a lot of different ways. Look at 'time restricted eating'.

[@fracritel]

Bone mass loss can make for weight loss in older population

[@gayleokerlund9559]

Interesting and compelling. However, it leads me to want to investigate further as some of this content can be debated. Dr David Sinclair and Dr Peter Attia have somewhat different views. There is still so much to learn from all of this. Epigenetics would logically affect these findings per person.

[@lindsay8845]

I felt very good following his longevity diet.

[@andreafuhrmann5720]

I am fasting 2 days a week for 12 years. Seems to go well

[@CarltonShelton123]

Very good conversation as i especially appreciate Dr Longo’s consideration of reaching people where they are. Perhaps another way to say it is developing guidelines with an eye for what is practical. However, the specific reference to South Central LA was problematic in suggesting that it was strictly a matter of lower education, when, in fact, it has more to do with access and systemic racism. I am not going to assume this was on purpose, as some of it may be a language issue but this has been another example of how so many scientists and experts in the field do not include obvious realities of our social system, how health outcomes are affected through access, messaging and so many other things. Food deserts have been a longstanding problem in both US and UK for a very long time.

[@Tommaso77777]

Greetings from afar! Greater search is for the incorruptible, but I appreciate your wisdom & good work! 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇

[@sukhjotesingh9613]

This is confusing! So many doctors recommend 16-18 hour fasts daily. Now Voltor is saying to eat breakfast & only do 12 hour fasting.

[@DBushX2]

Could you not find a longer, less intimate table for these intimate conversations?

[@endgamefond]

For me it's hard to find nutritionist or medical experts here where they can supervise me while I do long fasting. I have been doing water fasting 8 to 12 hours (3-4 times a week) because it's pretty safe without any medical experts. I want to do the longer ones.

[@Link-ny9xz]

8-12 hrs??? You could easily do 48hrs.. just add a teaspoon of salt into your water on day 2.. speaking from experience day 3 makes the most BDNF.. it’s worth it .. you don’t need a dr to not eat for a few days.. anything over a week and I would get supervision ..

[@knbsd3876]

Rudolf Steiner Health Center does a 3-day medically supervised fast via online with all the support you will need. People from all over partake. I did my first this past January, but had to cancel the one in June. Another should be upcoming soon!

[@beardumaw24]

8 hours is not even fasting. That's not eating after dinner untill breakfast the next morning, lol. And that's if you eat as soon as you get up in morning and eat right before you go to bed.

[@whitywhit]

so you're saying now if I fast I'm going to die young? what next!!

[@xeropunt5749]

I find faith base fasting much easier. But we have to fast anyway to change. Stretch it out one hour a day & the you can do 2hrs k& so on. It helps many OTHER goals in your life.

[@teena4rl211]

The Italians actually import much of the wheat they use to make pasta from the United States.

[@annabergmann3603]

Why is a problem to drop breakfast?

[@pathanada4957]

Nutrition plays a part in longevity, but there are many other aspects that effect longevity.

[@evanlouis8853]

Some questions for somebody smart, please. Does being in ketosis necessarily mean experiencing autophagy? The prolon FMD is about 800 calories per day for 5 days. I believe it is about 50% fat calories...so I suspect they want you to go into ketosis. If I eat 800 calories a day of my own food, 50% fat and whole plant carbs, will I experience the same benefits as the FMD?

[@christopherbrand5360]

Not sure if I meet your criterion. But I studied Longo’s FMD extensively and (against his recommendations) designed my own FMD using fresh whole foods, which I prefer to the packaged foods in the ProLon FMD kit. I did use vegetable glycerin to make a replacement for the special drink mix they provide. By my understanding from the book, papers, and patents covering the FMD it is the restriction of protein (especially certain amino acids) and sugars to quite low levels that triggers the protective programs which boost autophagy. It is not just carbohydrate restriction and ketogenic metabolism. You will get ketosis on the FMD, but ketosis does not mean you have boosted autophagy.

[@eugeniebreida1583]

@@christopherbrand5360 Thanks so much! Took a screenshot for future jump-off point.

[@ruthlopez288]

I am 67 years old with non alcoholic liver cihrrosis and my gallbladder was removed at 18 years old

[@AimEmery]

You need a health coach in your team. They can spend the time motivating and figuring out what the person can really handle and achieve.

[@TheHouseofFruits]

ok so around min 30 he says fast for 5 days, 2 to 3 times a year, correct?

[@sanb9459]

Loved this ... thank you ❤🙌🏼🌱

[@n.leticiatrevino7823]

Thank you both so much for all this information.

[@karenscookingkorner]

Right off the bat Walter seems very common sense!!!!

[@danafox1946]

Honestly I wouldn’t even be able to afford living til 100! And listening to what Valter eats on the daily sounds so depressing. There’s a 0% chance that Americans are gonna eat a longevity diet unless they are faced with an actual disease.

[@minifix]

You'd be surprised how delicious it can be, and how much better you feel which makes you want to continue. Unfortunately you are probably right that people are not open to change unless faced with disease...

[@johnepyttesr8947]

Well... Healthy eating takes more effort than money. I put it to the test, and broke down $/meal from grocery receipts. Two avocados diced with some red peppers in an iceberg wrap is about a $3-$4 Sweet potato, legume based dishes will cost less than a $5 meal somewhere. Eggs are relatively cheap, even good ones.

[@k.h.6991]

I would be interested in finding out how people with issues with cholesterol should eat after 65. Seems to me that high fiber should continue to help them lower their cholesterol - and that also means that protein should come from plant sources. But that isn't what Longo seems to suggest.

[@regina5749]

Rich can you explain how Andrew Taylor lost so much weight on his only potato diet. While Valter says it will put on weight

[@de_da_oo]

Vastly different than David Sinclair's take! 12 hours is fasting now? And skipping breakfast is now causing cancer?

[@polymath6475]

Exactly. I've been fasting 22hrs/day for 15 years, no sugar and low carb, fish and wagyu beef with vegetables and eggs. I'm in optimal health. There are many ways chemicals get into the body, for example toothpaste, water, etc. I brush with olive oil. You really need to keep track of your interaction with plastics and chemicals.

[@sarahterry2140]

I’ve always found this to be a very weak aspect of Dr. Longo’s advice, which otherwise seems sound.

[@MrNagaraj1973]

Exactly! That one sentence told me, he is selling something. I stopped listening.

[@thevcountdown9824]

Rich Roll is even older than Dr. Longo? You look fantastic!!!!!! And you also have great hair!!

[@eddasturrup4912]

LET IT BE.... I BELIEVE IT...... GOOD HEALTH.... THE LESS I EAT THE BETTER I FEEL.....

[@KT-ln8em]

I fast anywhere from 24rs too 48 hrs a week I have a ton of weight too lose bog result s . No complaints walk at least 30min to 45 min a week 13:07 2 x a week lift weights about 30 too 45min . Fasting works no crazy diets no expensive shots or surgeries

[@shirleygriffin7672]

Additionally, I have known for decades that Loma Linda, California does NOT HAVE THE largest percentage of centenarians and super centenarians. Folks live long across America. Arkansas has its share of centenarians, too.

[@amyrorris569]

Vaulter Longo looks really good! Wonder how old he is?

[@lindsay8845]

It's a very good book.

[@verorsosa100]

I have most watched the whole video and no mention of nrf2 activation for Longevity.

[@daveinglis4225]

What is the version of the CGM ( continuous glucose monitor) that Rich refers to that is freely available ( non prescription) and works without penetrating skin, Ie wearable? A future Apple Watch? That would be awesome, and sell hundreds of millions in its first year even at $1000 a pop.

[@verhagen]

Lots of statements, but no explanations. Just selling his products. (Why is if causing cancer and what makes his product superior????). Just don’t like his scare tactics. The elephant in the room? The questions that where not allowed to be asked. A not Rich Roll worthy conversation in my opinion.

[@funkyplaya]

Exactly! I was hoping someone else would point this out in the comments section but everyone just seems to blindly accept what he preaches. Unbelievable. I've been doing 16:8 for over 7 years and feel great. I'm not suddenly going to start eating breakfast because I was told without any evidence that fasting 16 hours a day increases mortality. I want to know what the logic behind that is. As much as I respect the guy, he is trying very hard to sell his approach and comes across as a salesman more than anything else.

[@RiceBiomedicine]

@@funkyplaya Yes, one should basically disregard anyone in the nutritional sciences sphere trying to sell products. Otherwise, you'll go down a tortuous rabbit hole of not being able to disentangle their advice from potential financial conflicts of interest.

[@vlazik]

Buy Longs book, all answers are there.

[@myconsciousflow]

Actually the point is he's not 'selling' anything. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZive5Kam7CsZ6c. Fasting has become fashionable and on the bandwagon a plethora of discussions about telomeres, DNA, mitochondria etc. etc. But its been around for thousands of years and possibly there isn't a scientific right or wrong. But this gerentologist has been involved significantly for many years as a specialist - he's not advocating the fashion trends but waiting for scientific proof - i.e. a middle path. Welcome to capitalist wellness.

[@robinr5669]

I have been listening and am confused about the fasting mimicking diet. It's a product?

[@sarahterry2140]

Yes you can order it from him or figure out your own hack.

[@AC7star7]

He developed the Fasting Mimicking Diet (ProLon) with the National Institute of Health and American Cancer Society for reasons of safety and patient compliance. It’s a meal in a box for 5 days. Strictly water fasts are difficult and can have adverse side effects like drop in blood pressure or headaches etc. I can attest. Also for these reasons, Oncologists were reluctant to fast their patients before chemo. So basically your body thinks it’s in a fasting state without the the side effects and get more compliance since it’s not easy. A version is made also specifically for cancer patients. My doctor uses the protocol for her patients. She’s a naturopath/nurse practitioner. She had to get a physician’s code I used to order direct from the company. If you don’t know a physician who uses it in their practice, you can consult with a medical professional I believe with the company.

[@elikia7759]

Amazing discussion, Fight On ✌️

[@MrNagaraj1973]

End of the day, everyone is selling something. Fasting is simple. I found this talk very complicated. Please listen to Dr. Pradipkumar Janmdas for fasting.

[@muscleNPmama]

I just finished my first round fmd haven't eaten yet but I feel freaking amazing. I did a diy version of prolon. My fasting glucose was 76 and usually it's slightly below 100. I lost 6 lbs but my weight was normal (bmi 20, body fat around 19%). Looking forward to doing this again in 1-2 months!

[@clownbackpainrick6581]

Do you think water fasting (or with tea and juice) would do the same. Or even better? Did you try water fasting. And if yes, what is better. Diy FMD is smart, cz today I look the price for prolon up. 170 € for stuff that is 20 € when you buy it in supermarket.

[@MeMe-dw1sm]

Don't know what to believe, so many experts with conflicting info.

[@knpstrr]

Nutrition is so crazy trying to figure out what is right. Especially when you don't have weight issues. Eat more meat, eat less grains. Then this guy says limit meat eating grains okay. It seems the most consistent advice is to eliminate refined/processed foods and added sugar. Almost every seems to agree on that. Beyond that people say, look at these people, then look at these people who did something different and these ones did a bit of both. It is confusing. Beyond that, it is definitely more economical to just water fast than to do FMD.

[@dodo9509]

Hi, love your show! Fasting and training (IM distance) seem opposites. Even in a period of rest, difficult to switch from one extreme to another... What do you think ?

[@mainlymusicman]

been doing intermittet fastnig for 1 month . well I'm confused.

[@oliviaolivia7011]

Just left me confused about protein ...listen to Peter Attila and he says is that protein is very important 1.5g / kg 😮