I have no idea what you are talking about but sitting in my quiet kitchen having my first coffee at 4.30am I am very much enjoying this tutorial
@stevefleth6 жыл бұрын
4-string bass players do this all the time when they hit the low E but need to play a Eb, D or C next. They go up an octave to hit those notes. So now I know that's called octave displacement. Thanks Rick.
@viggosimonsen7 жыл бұрын
It is an absolutely correct observation. Parker is the exact equivalent of Bach in classical music - both in the technical sense , and in terms of his role in music history. It just shows that music history goes through cycles. Parker rediscovered the techniques of Bach and reapplied them to jazz, just like Ellington and Bill Evans applied the techniques of Debussy. The entire history of jazz can in fact med mapped to the history of western classical music. Jazz went through the same evolution from simple diatonicity to increasing use of chromatism and harmonic extensions, facing the same harmonic dilemmas between form and chaos. Those are basically cultural life cycles.
@sickowhale68616 жыл бұрын
I always thought the same thing. Charlie Parker is 1900's Black Virtuoso of Bach. They feel so same
@gerryjamesedwards12276 жыл бұрын
There's an even neater parallel between jazz and classical music, related to Bach. It was arguably the rediscovery and championing of the music of JS Bach by figures such as Felix Mendelsohn that revitalized the music scene of the period in Germany and gave us the music that we think of as classical. He had largely left the repertoire at one point, his son Carl Phillip Emanuel Bach was much more well known.
@dactylntrochee6 жыл бұрын
So here's my current question. "Mr Bach promotes the system whereby all keys are played with equally offensive tuning", but that system won -- didn't it? A little later, Schoenberg claimed the whole system is played out, and he invented a new one that he was sure would catch on. Mostly, it didn't (except to make creepy backgrounds in movies.) Some years ago, we replaced publicly traded receipts for "precious metal" with notes that represents nothing at all. Central banks figured (like Bach) that it would catch on -- and it did! Nowadays, there's a movement to replace all money with electronic lock boxes out in the cloud that represent a balance (Bitcoin). Will it fly, or will it be the tone row of the monetary world? Be sure to tune in to Planet Earth next century to find out!
@jcee68866 жыл бұрын
Great insight Viggo
@jamesmurphy13896 жыл бұрын
Yeah right, dude. I’ll tell you what: you can have Parker and I’ll keep Bach. 😎
@tomasrevillacortazar67225 жыл бұрын
Rick, YOU are a real treasure. THANK YOU. I think most music teachers and them wanting to teach music should have a close look at your videos. They'd spare us for many many hours of wasted shed time. Even the gifted ones would learn something. Could really copy and paste my comment to most of your videos. I play sax and your octave displacement video has virtually transformed the way I practice scales. Killing lines all over the place! Regards from an Spaniard living Denmark, who's a bit happier today than yesterday ;-)
@jamesfreeman12866 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! All these years of playing Bach (and Parker) I always loved the skips, but nobody ever explained it to me like that before. I always felt they were so similar and now I have a much better idea. Thanks!
@rockingbuddah6 жыл бұрын
This is a Be Bach lesson
@magentuspriest6 жыл бұрын
This should be top comment
@robin-hr9up6 жыл бұрын
Bach to the future.
@timothymccaskey43625 жыл бұрын
Ivan Ramirez: It's just too bad that Johann Joseph Fux didn't start his own music school. He could have called it Fux U.
@rico._50675 жыл бұрын
This man has too much power
@hanj313 жыл бұрын
Charlie Bacher
@davidgerber93177 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing the way for us wannabes. By spending time with videos by you, Aimee Nolte, Adam Neely, and many other skilled and generous-minded KZbin teachers, I am getting first-class, professional level instruction...for free! All I can offer in return is to tell you I share whatever knowledge I can, whenever I can, in the same spirit that you guys share with me. May good Karma follow us all!
@that1personMan7 жыл бұрын
Amen to that, right there with ya
@Pizaz06 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about Kent in the Jazz Ranch
@roaringforties6 жыл бұрын
"first-class, professional level instruction...for free! " was one of the original aims of the internet. It's a beautiful thing. Peace.
@Vinnybrain5 жыл бұрын
Every time I stop into one of Rick's videos to be entertained..... I end up Learning Something!!... I love it! He's a born music teacher ..it just comes natural to him. :) Thank You Rick Beato!.... the world needs more thoughtful people like you! Your mission to musically educate every KZbin listener that finds you will continue to grow more millions! Why? Because you're HEART is in the Right Place! Keep up the Great Work there Rick Beato:)
@justinmurray36615 жыл бұрын
The bottom line is music is simple alota of these educated fools from uneducated schools talk to damn much, EMPTY VESSELS USUALLY MAKE THE MOST NOISE
@OrignialDublix4 жыл бұрын
after 4 years of hardcore piano training I can finally follow along! Thats just what I needed - thanks Rick!
@jimwinters39867 жыл бұрын
Another mind-reading video! Have been thinking of re-learning the chromatic scale with displaced octaves. Introduced to me at NGSW. I'd eventually hear it on various records. Vai, Becker, Jarzombek, Kalle Rademaker... and possibly Jarrett on Radiance.
@NahreSol7 жыл бұрын
Wow!!!!! Wow. This is so interesting and cool!
@adastraperespera14 жыл бұрын
Wow, Nahre. I imagined you explaining this in one of your videos while watching Rick explaining octave displacement. Then I find out that it is even new to you? Rip the fabric of my reality!
@heifetz146 жыл бұрын
Eric Dolphy took it further with double octave displacement which works well on sax or bass clarinet.I have tested some of my pupils by playing "happy birthday" on the piano with big displacements of 2 or 3 octaves.They never figure out what the melody is.
@jimjarnagin53446 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! I’m (finally) making a serious effort to learn walking bass and octave displacement adds a whole new angle to scalar lines. 😊😊😊
@chimurengacomposer7917 жыл бұрын
Wow what a blessing in my life you have been Mr Rick Beato! Amazing videos, please keep doing the good work, you have so much to give, thanks, all the way from South Africa!
@volt0z7 жыл бұрын
Rick is greatest music educator in the world! Thanks.
@nicholasrees18386 жыл бұрын
Rick, I'm surprised and impressed to hear the Gradus ad Parnassum refererenced here - and cantus firmus. I thought you were more of a rock guy. This is solid musical theory that was very important in the Baroque era where the guide lines were important - Bach learned them at his father's knee before he passed away and later from his brother. A lot of this stuff was more or less forgotten as the Classical era came in and rules of counterpoint were regarded as old-fashioned dogma and the texture of the music changed, I'd say simplified. The sympathy between Bach and Jazz is well documented - I have been listening to a Jazz version of the beautiful G minor Sinfonia this very day. Great to choose the 3rd Sinfonia as an example here. The Sinfonias represent some of Bach's best short pieces and are pretty much ignored most of the time. The C minor and G major are also great works though not easy to play despite their brevity. And of course, the F minor is justly famous for it's extreme chromaticism.
@epi66767 жыл бұрын
Rick, I'd like to thank you so much for these videos. I came from not knowing much about guitar and playing blues to using your vids to better myself, how I'm approaching the industry, and the stuff I play. Seriously, thank you for these vids.
@shkyrbty5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Really mind opening, thank you for posting! This helps us to understand both classical and jazz and the connections shared by both. The first guitar example reminds me of some lines Duane Allman played. Sweet!
@benyoungblood47706 жыл бұрын
I found this video incredibly thought-provoking. As a guitarist I really appreciated the part at the end with the demonstrations on the guitar. It gave me my next technique to practice!
@mozgren6 жыл бұрын
It's the sort of thing I do when whistling if I can't reach that high note - go down an octave. Problem is that I don't know if others like it as much as me. You're a wicked musician btw Rick.
@joelrivardguitar7 жыл бұрын
Good lesson. Another similarity also in the first Bach example is the 2-5 lines. He starts on D maj then hits the b3 of Em, finishes the line with octave displacement, then hits the 3rd of A7, another octave displacement and resolves on the 3rd of D maj. It's a classic 2-5-1 line starting on the 3rd of each chord. G, C#, F#. Bach tends to do those displacement runs off of the 3rd of whatever chord he's using. Like Parker he also plays the b9 on the dominant chords.
@modularmuse6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Rick, thanks! I remember being told, decades ago, that if you sped up a lot of Bach lines they would sound like bebop, now I know a little more about what they might have meant.
@mikakrstic7 жыл бұрын
I discovered the essence of Bach's music. The very pattern that threads throughout every single piece he wrote. Weather organ, guitar oboe violin or voice.. Rick is onto something interesting as a talented guy. I grew up studying counterpoint in europe from amazing teachers and know all about gregorian chorals and roots of fugue and other forms with counterpoint as a main source.
@MightyOneManBand6 жыл бұрын
Your deep knowledge on music never ceases to amaze me, Rick 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@treblemaker696 жыл бұрын
The octave-displaced chromatic scale on guitar sounds like something Fripp would do and/or did! Very cool!
@graemebarnes44055 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Rick! Your lessons are outstanding.
@VideoEconomist7 жыл бұрын
The fundamentals for composition and improvisation, as well as the rules that all musicians should know before breaking them selectively.
@johncook72815 жыл бұрын
With that descending scale it was easier to grasp what you were talking about/ playing, with displcements. I heard it in my head as a possible part of a walking bass line so it had an association in my thing with say John Paul Jones bass line (i.e.Ramble On, Dazed and Confused.)touching a bit on --'Everyone thinks and learns differently. in your Mindset for Success' Video from yesterday. Keep on your enthusiasm with your knowledge is a great combination.
@elsenored5623 жыл бұрын
0:21 _Octave displacement_ or _octave dispersion_ ... is a term used to describe an octave leap that's used to change the melodic direction of the scale or line 3:19 It typically happens - if you look at Bach or Charlie Parker 3:27 ... happens on weak beats, and what it's used for is to make your lines more interesting
@kaminandamusic2536 жыл бұрын
You're like the Musical , charismatic uncle i always wanted.
@QuaqQuao6 жыл бұрын
Hah! Turns out, due to the very limited range of my voice, I'm an expert in octave displacment already.. ;)
@danielglickman28404 жыл бұрын
Ha, same here
@visog7 жыл бұрын
Rick, I watch your vids whilst doing cardio on the machines at the gym. Trouble is I always get inspired to try out your ideas and have to rush home to play... Great insights...
@TheNinnyfee4 жыл бұрын
You are just as passionate about teaching music as my teacher at school, brings back good memories of music classes.
@staceycarras38157 жыл бұрын
Rick i like all your stuff, but i must say that this particular technique is very "effective" and useful
@madisonmasontv5 жыл бұрын
Maestro, once again I bow to thee.
@magnificentelectromagnetic74177 жыл бұрын
i'm impressed when i read the comments section - you're helping so many people: well done i don't even know you and i feel proud of you thanks
@ignaciocondecarmona1761 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Rick, I find it enjoyable, the way you share.
@luishermano7 жыл бұрын
Great lesson, Rick! There's also a great book written by the pianist Hal Galper called Forward Motion - From Bach to Bebop. It's worth a read and he talks a lot about these similarities. The best book I ever read about jazz phrasing.
@stuartthorne48727 жыл бұрын
I can't even begin to list all the gaps in my musical knowledge that have been filled by studying your video clips. Thank you so very much!
@lukejav8187 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite channel by far!!! Thanks you so much Rick! You are amazing
@wyattgranger58706 жыл бұрын
Haha I remember when Bela Fleck once said that He always connects Back with Charlie, though he wasnt sure why. It makes sense now
@mistereasy25877 жыл бұрын
Your teaching style is much appreciated and hope you continue to gain momentum here. Will continue to watch and learn and pass on to my students as well. Thank You
@stevebadachmusic7 жыл бұрын
That Fux book had so many rules it melted my brain a little when I picked it up 10 years ago. Maybe I'm ready for it now.
@stevebadachmusic7 жыл бұрын
truBador2 good suggestion. i ended up just analyzing a lot of Bach since that's the sound i was going for anyway.
@chrishaughey6487 жыл бұрын
This video has helped me loads, cheers. I've tended to use octave jumps the easy way, same note to same note. This video is forcing me to think of the continuity of the line, and made me realise that I've been lazy with it thus far. Thanks again!
@roberthead7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic as usual! Octave displacement violates the 'no dissonant leaps' rule from Fux and strict species counterpoint that you established at the beginning. A followup maybe? A separate counterpoint video of its own would be awesome!
@andreasfriedli74196 жыл бұрын
Retalk and play the old natural habits and( later) Rules of melodic developement and a bridge to modern application fills me with calm and joy and satisfaction.
@ZlejChleba7 жыл бұрын
thank you, that guitar bit was incredible, I never thought I could practise this way, it's absolutely amazing!
@crazyb3fan7 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing lesson Rick! Thanks a lot! That exercise on guitar toward the end of the lesson is awesome. I have to try that and incorporate it into my practicing.
@jazzerson70877 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is Bach and Charlie Parker are huge influences on my guitar playing. When I learn a Parker tune note for note or something like Bach's BWV 998 on classical I grow by leaps and bounds. Genius.
@jazzerson70877 жыл бұрын
15:09 beastly indeed! Let's have a lesson on lines like that soon!
@247hdjazz6 жыл бұрын
Most of my songs bury a very sick or ailing cantus firmus, because I jump all major and minor intervals, and one of my best songs have some very tasty 9ths....I studied the Bach Chorale's backwards & forwards and drew my own conclusions when I started a full-time writing career...Bach was amazing, and I know I built a foundation from immersing in Bachian wisdom!
@georgemartisius72265 жыл бұрын
I'm going to spend the next year practicing this
@cheesecurd100s3 жыл бұрын
Did you do it?
@fredelin25805 жыл бұрын
So exciting to hear someone talking about true counterpoint, its principles, rules, its applications. A, of course, the Masters/originators like Fux.
@craigberry40517 жыл бұрын
Yes, that line IS a beast! Wow.
@petersmart8947 жыл бұрын
Nice easy lesson for a Sunday afternoon after lunch.! Thanks, Rick.
@EAhonima7 жыл бұрын
I feel like my head's about to explode. That's a good thing. I wish I'd had Rick teaching my music theory classes fortysomething years ago. Thank you, Rick!
@ANTONSANMARTIN7 жыл бұрын
Beato your classes are great!!! Thanks a million!!!
@webmcollection29835 жыл бұрын
15:10 I saw the spirit of Bach coming out of the blue as this melody started.
@turretstudios99076 жыл бұрын
HI Rick, thanks for sharing this powerful concept. Could you suggest some exercises to kind of get those motions ingrained and more automatic? I would love a follow up lesson on this with more method on how to start applying it in improv.
@chakatania5 жыл бұрын
The limited range of sax forces us to displace the octaves and such. Creates great lines, mastered by Charlie Parker and so many others!
@AMgangwolf3 жыл бұрын
it was almost like i just needed to learn this one thing to understand jazz and all those crazy lines i thought were never ending.
@fadge41055 жыл бұрын
Any scaluer Rick, opens up so many things. Thank you for this. Broadens the mind man thank you.
@jaumerossellomusic7 жыл бұрын
I found another common point between Bach and Charlie Parker, which is the use of a very particular line over a dominant 9th chord: it starts with the 3rd, then goes to the 5th, then to the 7th, then to the 9th to end up descending to the root note, then 7th, 6th, 5th. It's very obvious that Bach's harmonic thinking over this was very different, since he didn't consider the 9th and the 7th as harmonic notes, by the way, I think it's a very interesting common point and a very beautiful melodic line itself!
@dennisdewey35022 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Rick!!!
@Carlospenamusic17 жыл бұрын
I love that. Thanks!
@JohnResciniti7 жыл бұрын
Those guitar exercises at the end were awesome! We're gonna have fun in class tomorrow!
@simonandresenmusic7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Such a simple idea, but so effective! Great lesson, thanks!
@SoundDiggerFozo3 жыл бұрын
You are brilliant as always, well done sir, well done.
@miguelangeldiaz93802 жыл бұрын
This little nugget...just rocketed my solos!
@bluarcher59413 жыл бұрын
yeah, that line at 15:10 is a beast for sure, but I can definitely hear the similarity to lines that Bach wrote in that type of progression. Great video.
@nemesisprime02136 жыл бұрын
Sooooo inspiring.Thank you for all these awesome vids.
@zokko61996 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jhummelgaard93102 жыл бұрын
Great content! Just a note to what you said about Fux and his counterpoint book. Historically it was an attempt to teach people to compose music like Palestrina. He failed somewhat since he never knew himself the secrets of Palestrina's music. As such Gradus was only used since there were no alternatives. Today we have the Counterpoint book by Knud Jeppesen that goes through all wrong rules laid down by Fux in his Gradus. Jeppesen simply did a statistical study of all Palestrina's works, so all "rules" he presents have a legitimate meaning, the end goal being the ability to compose music as beautiful and balanced as Palestrina. If Gradus is being used to teach counterpoint today it is pure Madness!!!
@chirrique17437 жыл бұрын
These videos are gold, thanks!!
@puskascat5 жыл бұрын
Before I watch this I'm guessing it wasn't heroin addiction.
@LAK_7704 жыл бұрын
Vastly underrated comment lol
@hmoy246774 жыл бұрын
Or the ammount of children they had.
@jaroddavid59333 жыл бұрын
😂
@wellfedstarvingartist2 жыл бұрын
This is golden
@wellfedstarvingartist2 жыл бұрын
@@hmoy24677 could have known exactly how many kids he had and then left two out of his will like Smiles Davis.
@antoniofalanga58466 жыл бұрын
really, really interesting. Thank you, Mr. Beato!
@ElverIsGone7 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand one thing you said but thumbs up...
@johnnytable92176 жыл бұрын
Daniel Valle just nod your head and act mysterious with couple of aham mhmm.
@Mercy_bahr6 жыл бұрын
bless the internet and this man lotta love
@sparty27616 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video, so simple yet it makes it so interesting.
@fredelin25805 жыл бұрын
Who are the 'clowns who have given a 'thumb down' to such a lesson ? A lesson so crucial and that shall prove so valuable to 'elevate' the level of musicianship of musicians, particularly those just out of major Schools. Because, I dare saying it, I have very good reasons to doubt that any jazz school program addresses the ultimate importance of counterpoint. None. And I say so because not only do I not hear much counterpoint ... I am looked at in puzzlement every time I point out phrase length and voice leading to instrumentalists, especially in... jazz. And to those who doubt there is such a thing as a weak beat, think again.
@butterfieldstudios24297 жыл бұрын
So many great videos... wildly helpful! Thanks!
@mmSeven777 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks for all the great info!
@txikitofandango3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the Star Wars theme without octave displacement.
@donswanson16 жыл бұрын
Kudos to my new found cyber friend! All of your videos have been really great! Thank you!!!
@elsenored5623 жыл бұрын
6:28 *Charlie Parker solo* 7:16 This is found all over the place .. 7:22 It's actually found all through bebop. Bebop *is* about these displaced octave notes like that.
@77pearcearrow Жыл бұрын
That's really cool, my thesis in grad school was on Octave Displacement. Awesome Video!
@rockstarjazzcat7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick. I like that you tied it in with rules for creating cantus firmus at the beginning, relating specific application examples that followed to implied wider possibilities to explore. So much bop vocabulary is made more difficult by presentation of licks, often in the absence of sound, without the driving concepts. Nice inspiring illustration. \m/. Best, Daniel
@k.scotsparks92477 жыл бұрын
..excellent, Rick (bless you!)
@bobbob-mq9nu7 жыл бұрын
this is why you'r channel is great.
@LanceWalton6 жыл бұрын
Nicely explained, but I have a question. As you said, one of Fux’s rules is to avoid leaps of dissonant intervals, & leaps of a seventh are specifically proscribed in many books (Kitson, etc.). But octave displacements in scales, as you’ve demonstrated, lead directly to leaps of a seventh. Is this ‘discrepancy’ due to Fux’s rules being more based on early vocal polyphony style (e.g. that of Pakestrina) than the instrumental counterpoint style of Bach, or have I misunderstood something?
@LiamHaleMcCarty5 жыл бұрын
Lance Walton I was wondering the same. Is a leap here defined differently somehow?
@djffe85975 жыл бұрын
The note is being displaced from “where it would have been” by an octave. the interval from the previous note is not what is being considered.
@ddaneh30905 жыл бұрын
Beautiful lesson.
@ScorpWriter7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mr. Beato. Very insightful, very well explained in layman's term and very inspiring and informative.
@shaddjimenez45244 жыл бұрын
very interesting stuff, great video man. 👍🏼
@bertramblik8826 Жыл бұрын
More videos like this like comparisons between masters!
@geraividet6 жыл бұрын
Two thumbs up. Great explanation.
@tomaspalazzi7 жыл бұрын
You said D7b9 is from the whole-step/half-step, but is from the half-step/whole-step. I love your channel!
@BrendanDormanMMA6 жыл бұрын
I love that I found this channel.
@meatwad613 жыл бұрын
Great lesson Rick 🤘🏻
@russwilson23056 жыл бұрын
My jaw hit the floor with that "beast of a line"
@cheneyrobert2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video 👏👏👏
@LuisShatter6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, Rick!
@themfu5 жыл бұрын
swinging the 8th notes would make this closer to real life playing. great video!