Riddles (Terry) vs BassMage (Jigglypuff) - Ultimate Singles Winners Round 2 - Rise N Grind 2023

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[@meanttoaster7261]

Props to bassmage for going all out against some of the best players in the world!

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

The fact that this man didn't get top 8 after beating Riddles and Jakal, and then going game 5 against Glutonny, is a real shame.

[@melomitchell8714]

Well Bassmage is part of that best players in the world

[@silaspq]

@@melomitchell8714 the last ranking did leave him outside the top 100 i think, altho hes doing really good again he will prolly get it back

[@skylarfox_bmb]

bassmage fucking ran AWAY with that game 3 holy hell

[@ringss_]

I can only imagine how annoying it must be to play Puff against Terry, who also has some large horizontal hitboxes and a much better horizontal recovery than a lot of characters, always approaching Puff with a hitbox. Elite Smash isn't for top players by any means, but the amount of times i have shut down a Puff with almost entirely crack shoot is large

[@coketictac22]

Its actually a surprisingly good matchup for puff. Top 15 probably, and the only high tier puff can beat at an equal skill level

[@azuremoon4372]

@@coketictac22 that's not true lol puff does very well into some high to top tier characters, for example min min or bayo

[@Bradley_War]

Who did bass lose to? I don’t see the vod

[@yeepsleep]

Gluttony

[@randomperson4280]

Gluto in winners and Geist in losers both went to game 5

[@Yokai_Yuri]

Props to Bassmage to deal with the bs that these lame fighters/shotos are and destroy them.

[@jaydenhohman2590]

Bro is fuming over a video game lmao. The fgcs really arent that bad its only a video game g

[@Axalachi]

Calm down there

[@yeepsleep]

Wack take. Terry is hype. But puff is more hype imo

[@nicstead3820]

Remember when you all LOVED riddles before Kazuya came out? Now you followers all hate on anything riddles including his Terry. 😂 absolutely no one who can think for themselves these days.

[@mmmm-xn2qp]

What are you talking about riddles become popular with his kazuya. Not with his terry

[@nicstead3820]

@@mmmm-xn2qp ……… hahahahahaha

[@mmmm-xn2qp]

@@nicstead3820 you sound salty that he lost go cry some more

[@nicstead3820]

@@mmmm-xn2qp not at all. It’s just funny how perfectly you fit the profile of clueless smash community member.

[@mmmm-xn2qp]

@@nicstead3820 yeah totally

[@PringlesManTheGDGamer]

Huge props to basemage. Cant imagine how hard it is to play puff at this level. Ggs mad respect

[@823sanction]

BassMage not base

[@peterpotts7482]

As a puff main, bassmage has the sneakiest falling up airs. Man is scheming. Also down tilt at ledge is so funny. Just auto death

[@im_Spade_]

Hot take: Jigglypuff is actually good. Like...if your character's recovery isn't great, fighting putt can be SO scary lmao

[@Regular_Ben]

Youre right jigglypuff has some good matchups. A good jigglypuff is scary but still mid tier.

[@cjwerner2747]

​@@Regular_Benif Jiggs is mid, whose bottom

[@TopOfAllWorlds]

​@@cjwerner2747 gannon

[@Daniel-uy1sv]

@@cjwerner2747Little Mac and Ganon, this has been said for 4 years now

[@cjwerner2747]

@@Daniel-uy1sv haha, sorry captain tier list

[@porknbeanz]

Great set puff can be so hype

[@twotamatos]

I have played puff since melee I still love her ult incarnation but I think the hype at part of playing a character like her is when she’s a rather low tier or a joke character like melee pichu it just kinda feels like joke characters got nasty buffs this game that make em less hype don’t get me wrong puff n wario can do some hilarious n hype stuff but yah matchups like this for Terry are like 1- to me u gotta have counter picks but even puff has bad matchups not like she’s carried but yah it can feel that way if u used to play her in brawl & sm4sh those low tier upsets just make em feel all the more hype to me

[@cristianaguiar4383]

@@twotamatos But puff is low tier in this game as well...

[@cristianaguiar4383]

@@twotamatos But puff is low tier in this game as well...

[@twotamatos]

@@cristianaguiar4383 no she’s not I knew I’d run into someone that says it that’s just like people who say jr is low tier the problem with puff is we are at ult there are characters like palu that can space & just out preform ur Ariel’s with a nair n that makes getting those rests n wins more hype cuz it’s not melee where spammers are just middle of the road to low tier there are some very good spaceys n spammers so that’s where she falls somewhere in the middle or mid high tier but she’s not low tier u just have to know matchups and she is fantastic counters against 1.5/3rds of the cast she’s a perfect pocket main but not solo viable however they made sing/rest & Ariel combos pretty easy to pull off compared to melee & just with all the tools they gave her like I said same thing goes with wario where it’s just not as much skill goes into those plays cuz they wanted them to pop off more n to me when they do pop off it’s just less fun to watch cuz it’s less earned but with the way the game is I don’t want puff to be a bottom tier character but just to someone whose played all the incarnations of the joke characters something about em being joke characters got taken away this game cuz their all B tier at lowest for them all those tier lists are made of bias people who place them there based on tourney results n lack their of

[@twotamatos]

@@cristianaguiar4383 u gotta be a pretty big moron to line up playing jigglypuff, Wendy koopa & wario doubles lmfao gay man watch that typa stuff it’s already humiliating as is playing tiny peenichu that’s why they gave them all buffs n performance enhancing like affects to keep people in their playing em but to me it kinda lost the appeal cuz they made em all very easy to net wins with to get people back into playing the game but it killed a lotta the hype for me thinking people who main joke characters are all idiots that need to have kiddy locked padded safe characters or granper crapper characters which all the joke tier characters are the only way to play a true joke tier character is to go back to melee and just get scrubbing with any of em there that’s how joke characters are supposed to be that’s what makes em hype how did pichu win against fox in finales the world may never know but it was truly hype

[@cjwerner2747]

Someone being really good with puff does not make puff really good lol. And when riddles shook his head like this character is b.s., that had to feel good for bass watching it back.

[@Mike-di3mo]

Puff is still underrated and your comment explains this, base needs to play puff more grounded though ngl.

[@AlexRodriguez-gb9ez]

Bassmage is really good with edge guards and combos, but still Bassmage's punish game can be made better. He could have parried rested Terrys obvious specials, and he could have uair->rested, rested, although I have to say you have to be really good to do it.

[@Mike-di3mo]

@@AlexRodriguez-gb9ez I'd say he also needs to optimpuff ground game because puff has alot of useful ground attacks like, dash attack, jab, up tilt, down smash, etc

[@stuckinabucket6873]

6:09 RIDDLES DONT POWERDUNK PAST THE LEDGE PUFF WINS OFFSTAGE RIDDLES NOOOOOOO

[@GoharioFTW]

Bassmage played very well why did Riddles autopilot to airdodge to ledge so much? tho i guess Terry doesnt really have that many other options out of disadvantage against jiggs?

[@aowawa]

since terry up b doesnt snap ledge its very gimpable so airdodge to ledge is a good default

[@palatonian9618]

So sick! I want to see the hbox bassmage rematch

[@Greatestfratus]

Yess! He must have been torn watching this match like “Who do I cheer for!?”

[@randychavezjr6050]

LETS GO BASSMAGE, AZ REPRESENT

[@onark777]

Riddles did not adapt at all. Did not prioritize playing at center stage. Air dodges were mostly trash. Power dunked to the same spot off stage every time. I really like both players and seeing riddles play this bad was disappointing.

[@agustinspiegel4313]

To be fair, riddles head was on another game .

[@antoinebecquet3222]

Riddles did some really good airdodges in dangerous edgeguard situations. I'm more impressed by Bassmage plays than disapointed by Riddles.

[@20quidd]

Bro ur terrible at this game like be quiet lmao

[@cjwerner2747]

Usually never gets punished for down b, prolly hard to unautopilot

[@jeffersonian4]

Great game. No disrespect to Riddles, who is a good player, but it feels like BassMage has to play twice as well with Jiggs to keep up with Terry

[@joriemorris9986]

What? Riddles was getting his lunch money taken any time he went off the edge.

[@jeffersonian4]

@@joriemorris9986 Point 1: You see every single Terry do those same combos--they're free. You don't see every Jiggs nailing the edgeguards like BassMage was. Point 2: Jiggs gets those edgeguards only while in advantage. Terry has his most dangerous tools available in neutral, advantage, and sometimes even disadvantage.

[@cjwerner2747]

​@@jeffersonian4people see puff win and the goldfish brain goes"puff broken" I agree this matchup is soo bad for puff. Bass is a god

[@AlexRodriguez-gb9ez]

Even then Bassmage still could make his punishes stronger...

[@Knivess0]

Hell yeah.

[@edsantosc]

What a way to play jigglypuff!!!!

[@cosmicdust3881]

Let’s go Bassmage!!!

[@SEBAS-97]

Siempre será agradable ver ganar o perder a los Acertijos.

[@Psicokass]

Mejor perder jaja

[@FidentTrades]

Any reason he didn't go Kazuya here vs puff?

[@jonathanmolina1169]

I’m guessing puff is so floaty so the usual combos doesn’t work, and Kazuya is heavy so puff surely can combo him

[@greedo194]

That mu is annoying and terry is better at anti airing and trying to recover

[@Dudaponchscarpenuove]

​@@greedo194i think kaz recovery is much better than terrys in this matchup

[@greedo194]

@@Dudaponchscarpenuove I feel like terry is trickier to catch with puff and his intangible legs help not trade with nair. Recovering is still miserable but that's the matchup

[@Sergio-wc1wn]

It would be the same as this but Riddles would have spent more time in disadvantage

[@bradleygo1]

How the fuck is puff supposed to beat FGC

[@823sanction]

So glad a dlc character didn't win lol

[@Hershey_Kong]

Live bassmage win

[@dominickwood905]

Best comms

[@rubberwoody]

Wonder why bassmage never punished these missed up Bs with sing

[@holdenmarceaux4675]

This girl sound slike a newscaster

[@seanmccune2517]

Tim Mosby playing smash

[@lazyclips2465]

Needed the kazuya

[@07XJuvi]

👏 👏 👏 with Jigglypuff? Nice~

[@estabravo]

Jigglypiff!

[@07XJuvi]

@@estabravo typo 😅

[@fallenangemon0]

It's INSANE how hard Bassmage has to work while Terry can throw out options that will literally kill at like 60% with impunity.

[@MastrMario]

I love it when Terry loses

[@khaledmoussa2640]

Riddles could have dropped down and recovered so many times, but used his jump at such bad places instead

[@pierreshi6102]

Disappointed in Riddles, honestly. Not sure if he had many options, but he tried air dodging onto the ledge way too many times.

[@uroy8371]

2023 and Terry still soooo lame.

[@problemsnearyou8899]

Don’t be a hater

[@wudduplele]

"final destination.., we're gonna take a little more time to plan our approach here" they both sound clueless this is awful commentary.

[@rpepero4774]

what? this was perfectly fine commentary. Good vibes, energy, and they were actually talking about the game. Stop being stupid lmao

[@sykesmau5]

You should apply. Im intrigued by your commentary ideas😊

[@thellamalover4real]

The lack of ambiguity that platforms provide mean it's easier to predict what approach your opponent is doing though. I don't think it's that wrong.

[@lambchu6459]

Commentary was fine

[@trevorcoopersmith2899]

commentary was great, you must have issues with every little thing in life

[@ipodsucksballs]

Bassmage my GOAT