‘RIDICULOUS!’ Can Arsenal & Arteta be CRITICISED if they fail to win the Premier League? | ESPN FC

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17 күн бұрын

ESPN’s Football Forecast team of James Allcott, Harry Symeou and Kim Kothari debate whether Arsenal can be criticised if they don’t win the Premier League.
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@TMap-dg3rj
@TMap-dg3rj 16 күн бұрын
People aren’t talking about how Man City had to go on their greatest ever unbeaten run just to be two points ahead of Arsenal
@6ixTacos
@6ixTacos 16 күн бұрын
This doesn’t mean anything. City have gotten to 100 points and the upper 90s a lot of times in the recent past. They’ve drawn more games than usual but it doesn’t mean that they are on this dream run.
@eyesopen66
@eyesopen66 16 күн бұрын
​@@6ixTacos Great comments pal
@eyesopen66
@eyesopen66 16 күн бұрын
Manchester City have had 100pts one season and 98pts the next...etc etc
@yash96819
@yash96819 15 күн бұрын
lol, all it means is City are number 1 as of now
@brianmuchemi7111
@brianmuchemi7111 15 күн бұрын
Can't you say when they were reaching 100pts they squads were weak just like the way people were saying arsenal last season was playing against weaker sides
@toninosa8964
@toninosa8964 16 күн бұрын
I don't know why everyone continue to associate Arsenal with the word bottle, but Liverpool is let off the hook
@SkatePvP10
@SkatePvP10 16 күн бұрын
But if they bottled it didn't you?
@husseinjmakshofi2697
@husseinjmakshofi2697 16 күн бұрын
Yes. Liverpool should be renowned for dropping it at this point.
@user-wb5es4gs8d
@user-wb5es4gs8d 15 күн бұрын
​​@@SkatePvP10they had a 5 point lead, they've been top the longest followed by city, they've been favourites or second favourites all season. Remember how everyone was quoting mourinhio a few months ago? "Liverpool 45, City 55, Arsenal no". Get rid of the hate it blinds you
@janysmahoney1271
@janysmahoney1271 15 күн бұрын
Rottnam, Utd an other runners-up have bottled it cos they've come 2nd too Infact every club whose come 2nd in history since football began have Bottled it, not just in their respective leagues but in Cup Competitions ( including England, Spain, Italy, Argentina, Germany an every other National side who finished runners up by your assessment
@ngyonghuei6577
@ngyonghuei6577 15 күн бұрын
Because everyone associate 97 points and 92 points with the word bottle. Why you think Arsenal need to be let off the hook?
@dgoodk5792
@dgoodk5792 16 күн бұрын
Liverpool were 5 points clear in February with the easiest run it but the question is if Arsenal bottled the league. Thats it. Im off the internet.
@jonbolton491
@jonbolton491 16 күн бұрын
Both bottled it.
@Rain188
@Rain188 16 күн бұрын
Liverpool was hard done by corrupt refrees
@Jack-no9ml
@Jack-no9ml 16 күн бұрын
​@@jonbolton491 arsenal lost 1 game Liverpool lost lol Loads
@Jack-no9ml
@Jack-no9ml 16 күн бұрын
@rain188. Excuse mate b
@jonbolton491
@jonbolton491 16 күн бұрын
Losing lots of games is not the definition of bottling. Bottling means throwing away a lead. You can say that Liverpool bottled it MORE. But both bottled it. Without the loss to Villa Arsenal would be on top.
@PJ-hl6eu
@PJ-hl6eu 16 күн бұрын
only trolls say arsenal have bottled the league. Their record since christmas is fantastic, city. even more so.
@AK47_.
@AK47_. 16 күн бұрын
They lost to Villa. If they don’t win the league, they have thrown it away. No one will remember the ‘nearly team’.
@Jack-no9ml
@Jack-no9ml 16 күн бұрын
​ On game e we all lose ffS
@simplyharshad
@simplyharshad 16 күн бұрын
​@AK47_. no one will remember are the ppl who are just trolls n haters. we all remember how good klopp built thr liverpool squad and that could beat city to title only once and we still rate him as best coach. the fans, the club, the pundits and the all ones who associate themselves with the game respect it. every season is foundation for the nxt season.. thr is a continous work thay goes from season to season. nothing resets on day 1 of new season
@jaydash6013
@jaydash6013 16 күн бұрын
at the end of the day that’s how losers talk you lot say tottenham are okay with losing but make excuses when arsenal don’t win you lot have always said Tottenham celebrate failure by being proud of making it to a ucl final but it’s okay too lose the prem because another team was better 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Jack-no9ml
@Jack-no9ml 16 күн бұрын
@@jaydash6013 has anyone beaten city for nearly 5 yrs ?
@ndungakoforbinake1321
@ndungakoforbinake1321 16 күн бұрын
Sorry, you cannot be labelled "bottler" with 89 points
@ngyonghuei6577
@ngyonghuei6577 15 күн бұрын
But ppl labelled 97 points and 92 points as bottler. Why the double standard?
@rrjgpl
@rrjgpl 15 күн бұрын
@@ngyonghuei6577not all people, just trolls trying to wind others up
@cameronuy9552
@cameronuy9552 15 күн бұрын
​@ngyonghuei6577 The noise of a few idiots always seem to take precedent over the silence of the vast majority. Every single real football fan would appreciate their achievements. These trolls are mostly young folk, hence the catchphrase bottlers. Older guys and true supporters don't use the word. We just live the game and appreciate amazing teams across generations.
@barryh.4220
@barryh.4220 13 күн бұрын
As a City fan I don't see Arsenal as bottling it this season, they are still in position to possibly win it on the final day of the season ffs ..... yes, they suffered the 'hitch' in the home game with Villa, but they have recovered superbly .... its just that City haven't relented and allowed them back in , so far!.... the very second, six games ago, that City knew for CERTAIN they HAD to WIN the last six games, was the second that the City machine went up a gear from most of their performances this season, and suddenly here we are, at the wire, and Arsenal living in hope.
@cameronuy9552
@cameronuy9552 13 күн бұрын
@barryh.4220 As a neutral who just loves amazing football, I couldn't agree more. People let their biases and hate for a club cloud their reasoning skills. Any fan of the game can agree that Arsenal have been brilliant. Its just that city are city and they do what they do.
@colmd7680
@colmd7680 16 күн бұрын
If you tend to use the term bottled then you cant be taken serious!
@briankin1827
@briankin1827 16 күн бұрын
Unfortunately for Liverpool and Arsenal,they are doing well in the era of City' s dominance
@uri-uf5hd
@uri-uf5hd 16 күн бұрын
See how the media is quiet about liverpool .
@lukaslesniak1415
@lukaslesniak1415 16 күн бұрын
the term 'bottle' is just the trending word of the times, people will use it anytime anywhere to feel relevant and get under people's skin, as an arsenal fan, I think you could argue that the use of the term 'bottle' was warranted last season despite the expectations at the start of the season and the fact that this man city side is the best ever team in the epl (because we were so many points clear and we crumbled at the end of the season), this season we did not 'bottle' anything
@user-tb3vg1dy8d
@user-tb3vg1dy8d 16 күн бұрын
Dude wrote an entire essay without using a single period… Considering you are an Arsenal fan, it’s impressive you can even write.. Arsenal fans finally got what they deserved.. A lot of heartache and a manager who only delivered Champions League football (and an FA cup)
@user-tb3vg1dy8d
@user-tb3vg1dy8d 16 күн бұрын
You did BOTTLE it because even though you knew that City would go on their typical season ending winning streak, you still could not beat Villa at HOME 😂😂😂 It was actually in your hands and you. BOTTLED it. And crashed out of the CL vs Bayern 😂😂😂
@lukaslesniak1415
@lukaslesniak1415 16 күн бұрын
@@user-tb3vg1dy8d grilling me on the punctuation is crazy considering how you used your periods lol, also you just proved my point exactly about the kind of people who throw the term 'bottle' around so thank you, throw in a few more laughing emojis next time to really make your comments stand out
@user-tb3vg1dy8d
@user-tb3vg1dy8d 16 күн бұрын
@@lukaslesniak1415 I could claim that I omitted a third period due to a typo. Your “claims” are that of a delusional and salty BOTTLERS fan who can’t cope with the reality that your team is overhyped by the Arsenal PR machine. Anyone who is not an Arsenal fan is laughing at your sad organization right now 😂 😂
@user-tb3vg1dy8d
@user-tb3vg1dy8d 16 күн бұрын
You have BOTTLED it for the third season running. At least there is always “next year” for you!!
@NickChemist-yf6oj
@NickChemist-yf6oj 15 күн бұрын
People have no clue what the term bottle even means anymore . How can you bottle something you’re not expected to win ?
@AlexeiRamotar
@AlexeiRamotar 16 күн бұрын
No, Arsenal hasn’t. But Liverpool did bottle it.
@jonbolton491
@jonbolton491 16 күн бұрын
Both bottled it.
@theach84
@theach84 16 күн бұрын
@@jonbolton491just like you bottled this comment
@jonbolton491
@jonbolton491 16 күн бұрын
@@theach84 Bottling the league means surrendering the lead. Full stop. If Man City fails to win West Ham on Sunday we will.say they have bottled it. That's it. It's not too complicated.
@ngyonghuei6577
@ngyonghuei6577 15 күн бұрын
If 97 points and 92 points is bottle so what make you think below 90 isn't bottle?
@simmienyathi3746
@simmienyathi3746 15 күн бұрын
​@@jonbolton491So every team that does not win the league bottled it then😂😂😂
@Dapo.m
@Dapo.m 16 күн бұрын
lol I love the bottle word. It helps me know who is having a serious football conversation and who isn’t.
@Wazza555
@Wazza555 11 күн бұрын
Good philosophy
@mohammedaminu1147
@mohammedaminu1147 16 күн бұрын
No one is talking about Liverpool who were on top with 8 points
@buthozncube4893
@buthozncube4893 16 күн бұрын
Liverpool bottled the league not Arsenal. You can't say Liverpool are a better team going forward than Arsenal. That's not true.
@tbrZW
@tbrZW 16 күн бұрын
"There's something missing at Arsenal" My question is would that statement hold true if Son scored at Spurs or if City slip up on Sunday? It's just small margins not necessarily anything missing at this point. Last season yes, there was something missing. This season no.
@ikeman9784
@ikeman9784 15 күн бұрын
Thank you bro. It's literally fine margins/luck that's gone for citeh. Son scores that 1 v 1 9 outta 10 times. He scores arsenal are champions then the narrative changes. There's literally been nothing between the 2 teams this season. Matter of fact arsenal has beaten citeh 2 outta 3 times and drawn 1 this season..
@edzico1908
@edzico1908 16 күн бұрын
VAR bottled it. They robbed Arsenal of a point each at Newcastle and Villa
@edzico1908
@edzico1908 14 күн бұрын
@Damian_Drake when truth can't find your path
@stnbch3025
@stnbch3025 13 күн бұрын
​@@edzico1908 ... path. You blame a referee.
@pwrofmusic
@pwrofmusic 16 күн бұрын
He says “you haven't won the Premier League” ? Its not over yet. Its not over till its over.
@Erysx12
@Erysx12 16 күн бұрын
If losing 1 game in the premier League in 2024 is considered bottling then idk
@Zacksolos2007
@Zacksolos2007 16 күн бұрын
They lost to west ham too
@silentobserver9418
@silentobserver9418 16 күн бұрын
​@@Zacksolos2007not in 2024
@AB-sx2pn
@AB-sx2pn 16 күн бұрын
Missing timber early on was unfortunate
@thebandthatisDAVE
@thebandthatisDAVE 16 күн бұрын
He will be the new sighing next season
@wapanglemdur
@wapanglemdur 15 күн бұрын
Actually we didn't miss him that much
@achuthp.k4567
@achuthp.k4567 15 күн бұрын
​@@wapanglemdurQuite the opposite. Timber's dribbling ability could have been the great asset to this Arsenal team. Martinelli needed support in attacking phase on the left side.
@jaycampbell1992
@jaycampbell1992 15 күн бұрын
1 major injury during the whole season shouldn’t be stopping winning the league
@achuthp.k4567
@achuthp.k4567 15 күн бұрын
@@jaycampbell1992 City's main asset is their quality bench strength. Arsenal had a weakness in that LB position throughout the season. Zinchenko not so reliable, Tomiyasu injury ridden, Kiwior an okay backup. This personal change severally affected Gunner 's attack from left hand side. This was the reason Arsenal is overly depending on Saka and Ødegaard. So yes, in long run it can make a difference in title chase.
@rogerlai3197
@rogerlai3197 15 күн бұрын
No, the Gunners have been the best team of this season, except they lost to Villa at home which was such a decisive game. I am a United supporter but I have to say Arteta and his team can hold their heads up no matter they win the league or not.
@haniia843
@haniia843 16 күн бұрын
Where was this headline when Liverpool crashed out of the title race? Very weird
@Puntastic7
@Puntastic7 15 күн бұрын
Nope, Arsenal totally bottled it. The fans were comparing and saying Arsenal is way better than Madrid because of a couple games😂
@trevorstatham4451
@trevorstatham4451 15 күн бұрын
Arsenal is better than Madrid lol. Even Liverpool and City are. Madrid this year are plain average
@Davidizzleb
@Davidizzleb 15 күн бұрын
Btw, Arsenal has had the most difficult run of games in the last couple of weeks from the front three teams this season. Liverpool had the “easiest “ run and nobody is talking about them throwing away the league. Credit to Arteta and all the Arsenal team. Whatever happens we keep our hunger and we eventually win the league.
@anwartemam5168
@anwartemam5168 15 күн бұрын
The criticism comes from deep hate, imagine being a Tottenham, United and Chelsea and talking rubbish about Arsenal 😂😂
@benjamindadzie9657
@benjamindadzie9657 15 күн бұрын
They have no shame... They are ridiculing me for being at 2nd position yet none is in Top 4
@nnamdio3129
@nnamdio3129 15 күн бұрын
There's nothing missing at Arsenal. Best defense and best attack in the EPL? Could they do with unlimited funding, maybe..but the team is solid. They're just up against a behemoth of a team with more experience at winning stuff. Every year Arsenal keeps learning and can only get better.
@mikey4483
@mikey4483 16 күн бұрын
What a ridiculous title, this is Arsenals statistically best ever season.
@husseinjmakshofi2697
@husseinjmakshofi2697 16 күн бұрын
To be fair, the abundance of American fans and coverage has dumbed down the convo.
@HouseNoir
@HouseNoir 15 күн бұрын
American fans aren't using the term bottled.
@jjsamuelgunn1136
@jjsamuelgunn1136 15 күн бұрын
It's ridiculous to say they 'bottled it'. Then does every team that finishes second or third in every league every season be labelled as bottlers? If they are called bottlers then what do you call Liverpool when they suffered a complete meltdown in the last two months. Arsenal dropped points only twice in the second half of the season, compared to dropping points 8 games in 2023. If anything they had overachieved in 2024 by digging themselves out from behind the pack to top the table for a very short period of the season. The reason you think they 'bottled it' was because the table always showed Arsenal in lead for long periods but again that is only because the City always had games in hand under the schedule. If City and Arsenal had their matches in sync, the table would show City in the lead most of the time and Arsenal doing the chasing.
@user-ss1fj1hu8d
@user-ss1fj1hu8d 16 күн бұрын
This is ridiculous; How can Arsenal be ridiculed. A team that made the title challenge looked better than other leagues which already have their winners? Only a small minded fellow will see it as if Arsenal bottled it. What did Arsenal bottled? Losing to Aston Villa is normal and then continues to to win the rest of their matches with this form and losers think what? Bottling? Like those are real haters of Arsenal. Kudos to them (Arsenal)
@zakiousmand
@zakiousmand 15 күн бұрын
I would only say any team “bottled” it if they had everything going for them and there is no reasonable explanation on why they started dropping points. For Arsenal last year, the loss of Saliba was the end of it, it so dramatically changed how arsenal were at the back and less secure whilst also missing Thomas Partey quite a lot. For Liverpool this year, the injuries they had and to even be in the position they were was crazy winning week after week, when the bubble did eventually burst against United I feel that things finally caught up. When so many players come back after injury, it’s not the same level of cohesion and I almost feel Liverpool started getting too many players back at the same time. Neither team bottled it in my opinion. The whole bottled it narrative oversimplifies the actual analysis of what happened and fails to give credit where it’s due. Liverpool were so impressive this season and so was Arsenal.
@user-dn7nv9je1f
@user-dn7nv9je1f 16 күн бұрын
I think some critics are looking for relevance. In the end there are 2 teams that had a good season and one got luckier
@Andrew-gf6ni
@Andrew-gf6ni 15 күн бұрын
Arsenal were third favourites. Everyone had Liverpool winning the league and they've been irrelevant in this title race, yet no bottle tag. Anyone trying to label Arsenal bottlers are miserable, clueless and should watch another sport
@truedogs4698
@truedogs4698 15 күн бұрын
Talking about unfortunate schedules, look at the UCL-PL-UCL schedule of the last three years for Man City. Way tougher. Good teams make it happen no matter what
@shinichikudoz
@shinichikudoz 16 күн бұрын
arsenal is the only team put up a fight till the end while others team give up in the middle...how come ppl say arsenal bottled it mindblowing...or those ppl really wanna see epl become farming league like ligue1?
@jaggill521
@jaggill521 15 күн бұрын
Did Liverpool bottle the league? Weren’t they 5 points ahead? Didn’t Liverpool collapse? Man Utd knocked them out of FA Cup and they collapsed thereafter.
@nabeel426
@nabeel426 15 күн бұрын
If arsenal don’t sell players for more than £100M this summer and spend similarly to last summer + don’t win anything next season, they will have to sell key players, hence they will be were Chelsea are in terms of having to sell players in order to comply with FFP/PSR. Reasoning for this, due to Arsenal’s spending habits they’ve accumulated more than £55M loss every year Arteta have been in charge and more than £120M loss in the past 3 years. This is what needs to be discussed and spread around more.
@aykeiyinagoro2458
@aykeiyinagoro2458 15 күн бұрын
They love to associate Arsenal with negative headlines to get views.
@AlvenmodFoto
@AlvenmodFoto 14 күн бұрын
Last season the main reason was the Saliba injury, the defense fell apart and they lacked the depth needed. This year is just very small margins between them and City, could have gone either way.
@simplychaff1875
@simplychaff1875 16 күн бұрын
They haven’t done anything that Poch’s Tottenham haven’t. And Tottenham and Poch get nothing but criticism.
@jeanjacqueslundi3502
@jeanjacqueslundi3502 16 күн бұрын
Difference is Arsenal fans are the boisterous kind, whereas Spurs fans are not.
@theach84
@theach84 16 күн бұрын
Did Poch have competition as good as pep in 2024 2022. Did Poch ever get to 86 or 89 points? Poch was in a title race with Leicester Even came 3rd in that race. Let’s act like this Arsenal team is just as good as that poch team
@colmd7680
@colmd7680 16 күн бұрын
Pochs best season was in pursuit of an excellent Chelsea team but never got closer then 4 points and league was done with 3 games to go. City are a different prospect altogether. Havent lost in 23 games and were said not to be playing well!!. Arsenal make just one mistake since new year and thats enough to lose a league.
@BMW_Z4idiot
@BMW_Z4idiot 16 күн бұрын
didn't Tottenham win the league in Oct?
@chriskey7440
@chriskey7440 16 күн бұрын
Arteta won an FA Cup.... That destroys your entire comment, better luck next time.
@Eversogladucame
@Eversogladucame 16 күн бұрын
Arsenal will finish 16-0-1 in 2024, 8 goals conceded. That's an amazing run. They just came up against a Man City machine in their run in since Dec.
@imranb4985
@imranb4985 15 күн бұрын
Fulham at home was that game that lost us the league. Drawing with a team down to 10 men, leading after 80 mins should be played over and over again to these players as a reminder and motivation to win it next season.
@seddakmiah6540
@seddakmiah6540 15 күн бұрын
They just described the definition of bottling. 😂
@shegelee
@shegelee 15 күн бұрын
Arsenal is getting more criticism in the media for competing with City till the last day than Liverpool who spent the most time staying on the summit of the league and even Chelsea fans whose fans are celebrating being in the Top 6 are bantering Arsenal. Quite the conundrum.
@Davidizzleb
@Davidizzleb 15 күн бұрын
I have finally found a good sports podcast about the premier league. Credit to all of you, in particular to Harry. As an Arsenal supporter myself I am happy to also find a really good sport journalist that knows what is talking about my team. Everywhere else I can only see and hear biased comments and envy but in this podcast I truly see the truth. Keep the good work lads.
@matthewbotha7845
@matthewbotha7845 15 күн бұрын
"He shouldn't have let Odegaard take that picture, absolutely disgraceful." 😂😂😂
@user-vs2hr1wq8d
@user-vs2hr1wq8d 15 күн бұрын
Lazy journalism with click bait headline
@__-fn7nx
@__-fn7nx 16 күн бұрын
This shouldn’t even be a debate
@majestyofrock2702
@majestyofrock2702 15 күн бұрын
They took 4 of 6 points from City, 4 of 6 from Liverpool, Villa was their kryptonite this year.
@jasonjason7823
@jasonjason7823 15 күн бұрын
They didn’t fail, City has basically 2 starting squads in the team and win the last 50 games of the season since they have breached tons of financial rules and they’ve been able to build a squad beyond everyone Look at Liverpool, who actually loses a title in any other league with 97 pts?
@jefffalloon
@jefffalloon 14 күн бұрын
There is always a microscope on Arteta on Arsenal.
@oilbeefhooked351
@oilbeefhooked351 15 күн бұрын
Whoever says Arsenal bottled the league are the ones who mothers bottled, not swallowing them 🎉
@Le4thl3
@Le4thl3 15 күн бұрын
“Ran out of steam against villa” who also played in Europe that same week, who also beat Arsenal twice and beat Man City more comprehensively than any other team this season
@aghaluugochukwu6493
@aghaluugochukwu6493 15 күн бұрын
Liverpool were the ones that spectacularly bottled the title, but no one wants to say it.
@AndersAlmwanderscalm
@AndersAlmwanderscalm 15 күн бұрын
Still goes back to the Newcastle game and VAR decision that Joelinton "didn't foul the defender by climbing on his shoulders" to score. Fine margins meant there can't be a bottling.
@jefffalloon
@jefffalloon 14 күн бұрын
Liverpool had it in their hands. Where is the debate on Klopp?
@gtr5973
@gtr5973 14 күн бұрын
“Bottling” is just obviously a troll word. You could level it at every team that came second or worse in history by only focusing on moments where a team didn’t take maximum points. Football is getting boring, particularly fans.
@davidmccann3695
@davidmccann3695 16 күн бұрын
James banging this Arsenal aren’t good in open play when they’ve got nearly 70 goals outside of set pieces, fucking every time he talks Arsenal he talks as if set pieces is everything
@WillSavage
@WillSavage 15 күн бұрын
Yes Jim! Get in there, ESPN dollaz coming your way. Good on ya.
@Zagirus
@Zagirus 13 күн бұрын
Let's not gloss over the fact that Arteta splashed £700 million over five years to win just one FA Cup. And now, here you are, *trophyless for the second straight season* despite hovering in the top 2 for so long. Bottle FC
@abiboy2412
@abiboy2412 15 күн бұрын
Silly clickbait. Liverpool BOTTLED it not Arsenal. Man City have had to go on their longest unbeaten run in history just to have their noses ahead of the Arsenal in the run-in and yet you choose to gaslight fans with this nonsense caption? nah nah y'all silly.
@kc270352
@kc270352 16 күн бұрын
last season they deserved to be criticised, they were 10 points ahead and were top for 90% of the season and completely fell apart towards the end, this season they have improved a lot, but once again have just about fell short, you could say they bottled it when they lost at home to Aston Villa, but this season i dont think they have bottled it, they have pushed Man City all season, Man City are just a machine regardless, Man City win because of their experience and consistency over the years, you have to be consistent throughout the whole season to somehow get ahead of Man City, Arsenal could finish with 100 points while Man City could finish with 102 points, thats just how good they are
@TheChampIsHere_
@TheChampIsHere_ 16 күн бұрын
Arsenal were never 10 points clear last szn do you even watch football 😂
@junk301
@junk301 16 күн бұрын
@@TheChampIsHere_ Unfortunately, a large..and perhaps hateful fanbase like Arsenal is going to get all sorts of weird banter. They had a 5 point lead on equal games played, but no one cares apparently.
@nnamdio3129
@nnamdio3129 15 күн бұрын
They were never 10 pts clear 😂. This bottling story keeps changing 😂. Next it will be Arsenal were 15 pts ahead.
@kc270352
@kc270352 15 күн бұрын
@TheChampIsHere_ well maybe it was 8 points or something then, they definitely had a huge lead at one point last season
@nnamdio3129
@nnamdio3129 15 күн бұрын
@@kc270352 it was 8 pts and city had 1 game in hand, basically 5 pts. And they still had to play City.
@karlmarkmugisha3903
@karlmarkmugisha3903 16 күн бұрын
Flying kits situations son's intentional miss makes me feel different so that term bottled the league I never wanna hear that seriously I have seen some syndicate like situations as much I love the EPL
@tpecco9380
@tpecco9380 14 күн бұрын
City spent 9 game weeks on top Liverpool spent 12 game weeks on top Arsenal spent 11 game weeks on top So Arsenal actually spent the second longest on top
@chappy48
@chappy48 15 күн бұрын
Adjusted for games played, Arsenal have the most points of any team in the Premier League in 2024...yet people still want to say Arsenal bottled it. That's crazy! What happened is that Arsenal had a very slight wobble before the winter break so they went into 2024 5-8 points down from the leaders.
@Medarazoe
@Medarazoe 15 күн бұрын
Ignorant ppl criticising a better person at football. so u devote a whole show about irrelevant narratives!
@wingchan4042
@wingchan4042 16 күн бұрын
Yes and it will keep going and going………….
@jefffalloon
@jefffalloon 14 күн бұрын
What is the purpose of this debate?
@amenhotepthethird209
@amenhotepthethird209 16 күн бұрын
Does that mean that every team who tops the table have "bottled" it. After 1 game, 10, 30? This is crazy. At least they have got close. United, Chelsea, Liverpool have spent fortune's and not got close.
@erikraudssen6777
@erikraudssen6777 16 күн бұрын
With a win this Sunday, we will equal MCFC points from their winning season of 22/23. When you equal the winning tally from the previous season, how can anyone say it was a bottle?
@Peaceful.451
@Peaceful.451 15 күн бұрын
Arsenal new motto: How we pushed them all the way
@user-vs2hr1wq8d
@user-vs2hr1wq8d 15 күн бұрын
Liverpool not being asked how and why, with salah and klopp and leading the league by 5 expecting to go 8 clear when they played arsenal are now 8pts behind? Did Liverpool with all their experience bottle the league and Europa? Or is it only a new manager to be discussed?
@joncieelmore8056
@joncieelmore8056 15 күн бұрын
Clive Palmer getting a mention.
@d3v102
@d3v102 15 күн бұрын
RIDICULOUS indeed. Liverpool bottled it with a 5 point lead and no one is talking about that. Arsenal still needs 1 or 2 more players to compete and be more competitive next season. 89 points and bottled the league.? goshhh.
@Mark-99999
@Mark-99999 15 күн бұрын
You have to be there to have a chance
@christopherwilliams2351
@christopherwilliams2351 16 күн бұрын
They did. It’s okay. They’re set up well for the future
@didierliango6402
@didierliango6402 15 күн бұрын
why City get away with all those charges? totally unfair for the rest.
@GGuru-Official
@GGuru-Official 15 күн бұрын
Arsenal had the hardest running, after last season people said that was arsenal's best chance to win the league even when they were not predicted to challenge, Liverpool actually bottled the league because they had the easiest running. And if people are saying arsenal bottled the league this season why didn't they say the same to klopp who lost the league twice on the last day?
@worldmedic3187
@worldmedic3187 15 күн бұрын
How could a disappointment is not on the EPL? Are you kidding, 115.
@Zuryach
@Zuryach 12 күн бұрын
8:18 Once Pep leave City, Arsenal is the natural heir. Oh, come on! As if the footballing world exist in a vacuum. Lots of things could happen IF Pep decides to leave City: Arsenal could be declining by then; Other teams could rise up to challenge City just like Arsenal did last season.
@frglrk
@frglrk 15 күн бұрын
I love it - City are being hailed as the greatest side ever but Arsenal are getting stick for not winning the league. Sorry where are all the other premier league teams? Why is it all in Arsenal to beat them? lol
@J_Tevo
@J_Tevo 16 күн бұрын
Well it could be Harry's kids fault...
@jasonleon1976
@jasonleon1976 16 күн бұрын
Hang on a minute. Im sure Liverpool were favourites a couple of months ago. But they get a pass. Arsenal takes City to game week 38 and are bottlers? Jesus christ 😂
@wapanglemdur
@wapanglemdur 15 күн бұрын
NO, NEVER. We are glad we are here where we are.
@fredorido2520
@fredorido2520 15 күн бұрын
Without Arsenal in the headline theen no traction
@testrun961
@testrun961 12 күн бұрын
YES!
@darklawdshadow5679
@darklawdshadow5679 14 күн бұрын
Everything u said was bang on until u slid in the bit about Odegaard shouldn't have taken the pic and that it was disgraceful... U all need to grow up and get over it 😂😂😂
@petermoore5196
@petermoore5196 16 күн бұрын
The difference city unbeaten in 35 games 😂
@poolfans
@poolfans 15 күн бұрын
100% Arsenal bottled it last season 2/5 of the season to go 7 points ahead with 1 game in hand. And they lose the title to City This season Arsenal should do better Havert 65mil Rice 100mil Timber + Raya 200mil spent to improve from last season. Just that City maintain their very very very very very high level. You can’t beat this City team when they are so good and didn’t make much mistake. City last 20 games 17 wins 3 draws The game before that run they drew 2-2 with palace. Should be leading 5-0 at HT. I said last season Arsenal missed the chance to win the Pl, it will be very tough next 5 season x Unless Pep quit
@SkatePvP10
@SkatePvP10 16 күн бұрын
Yes
@johankotze727
@johankotze727 16 күн бұрын
No thats absurd
@CollinsKiggundu
@CollinsKiggundu 15 күн бұрын
The weekend of the Aston villa game, it was in the hands of Liverpool. Even you people who discuss the topic are trying to disrespect arsenal. Why don't you discuss bottling of Liverpool because they were leading during the weekend of Aston villa game and they took spent lots of money
@paudie75
@paudie75 16 күн бұрын
Thought arsenal would fade like last season, but they have been great this season got there best points total and went far in Europe. Think it's crazy saying arsenal didn't have a great season.
@mel-bp1kp
@mel-bp1kp 15 күн бұрын
He should have tried to win the Fa Cup or league cup to get the winning mentality before the
@KoshoShinogi
@KoshoShinogi 15 күн бұрын
They've lost *ONE* game in 2024. They've set a club record for most wins in a season. Still not enough. Of course they haven't bottled it. City have just raised the bar to a level that's hard for anyone else to match.
@Narendra_Laden
@Narendra_Laden 15 күн бұрын
This should never be a question. They just hate arsenal
@tvgcmma9215
@tvgcmma9215 16 күн бұрын
They bottled it last year didn’t this year - but didn’t go for it and risk it as much as could’ve ie played by or 0-0 v city as opposed to going for win
@TheKh65
@TheKh65 16 күн бұрын
Going for the win and lose completely. Tell me how many teams have gone to the Etihad, played open play, and won in the last 3 years?
@Telssa1
@Telssa1 15 күн бұрын
City fan. Truth is Arsenal (and Liverpool) have earned our respect. The rest of the country can mock, but they haven't been through the mangle (yet again) as we have. Hope WE don't bottle it on Sunday.
@qie27
@qie27 10 күн бұрын
Had no gut and champs' mentality to attack City in their last match, instead playing boring and passive football which betrayed their own method, and turn out cost them the title. If they actually believed they could defeat the City then fair enough to say they bottled it, but if they thought otherwise then they did not bottle it, just don't deserve to be the champions.
@clash3400001
@clash3400001 15 күн бұрын
If Arsenal is criticise for bottle the league and except for liverpool then the rest of the 17 team is what? they can't even see the bottle, somtimes ppl have to be realistic there only one team that can win it.
@clintonmccutcheon3509
@clintonmccutcheon3509 15 күн бұрын
Of course not - no idea where this narrative keeps coming from. It's just other teams fans mostly. Last year Arsenal wobbled from a position they shouldn't have really been in anyway. Liverpool were 5 points ahead - where are they now? Bottled it? Don't hear anything about Klopp and Liverpool because of the media love in. Man City just went on a 34 game unbeaten run in order to recover and end up on top. Arsenal unbeaten vs big-6 this season, taking 4 points off of most of them. The reason we won't win the league is squad depth, unfortunately losing to Fulham twice and Villa once. This is where Man City are leagues above everyone else, their bench-depth includes £100m players, other teams do not have that luxury. Anyone taking the EPL title to the final day vs this City team, cannot be called in any way shape or form, 'bottlers'.
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