"Ridiculous Overkill" - EVGA X299 DARK PCB Analysis

[@GamersNexus]

Find our EVGA X299 DARK thermal analysis here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3WsdKmCf8eYnLs Find Buildzoid here: kzbin.info/door/rwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQ

[@custume]

a couple of things ... 1º, some people don't understand how electricity or micro electronic works, so for some one that know that is not hard to understand you but for the general users that is hard to understand. 2º, that mosfet controller's metal sheet are conductive with the chip it self ?, or can we add a better heat shield to that ? 3º, 2Kw xxiiii, do we need a new connection from the electrical company to have more that 3.3Kwats of contracted power just to hold the computer and still use stuff at home ?!?!?!? are you sure about the power requirements ?? that looks to high Regards

[@SubZero8007]

All we want is a 40 minutes Vacuum video :(

[@wargamingrefugee9065]

Good news! Intel is gearing up to release their new 10nm process vacuum tubes. They're super power efficient too!

[@NovaDoll]

WarGamingRefugee no they’ll set your house on fire...

[@OutOfRangeDE]

WarGamingRefugee Hey did u work at WarGaming? :)

[@wargamingrefugee9065]

@OutOfRangeDE No, I didn't work for them. I became so irritated with the way they ran their games, that I uninstalled everything and started playing War Thunder. WarGamingRefugee is my name in War Thunder. After a few people had a laugh/thought it was a good meme in game chat, I changed my You Tube name to match.

[@OutOfRangeDE]

WarGamingRefugee Oh yeah cool. I first played WoT and then WT. I had 10 tier X and nice stats in WoT and quit because of RnG and the will to play a fair game. Then i first only played shooters and stuff for a while until i found war thunder. But after reaching top tier tanks there ( was V or sth at that time) it was pretty much always the same, altough i loved high kill streaks and the ability to bomb your opponents etc. Was quite much fun but sometimes also horibble when u played without teammates. But both good games in their ways when you can live with the cons.

[@tarkett8529]

EVGA over engineering what a surprise, I for one hope they keep doing it and pushing the boundaries of what’s possible on a given architecture.

[@Quicksilver_Cookie]

At the very least it's always interesting to see where exactly they've gone mental, in a good way.

[@DSDSDS1235]

"It would be 40 minutes long and nobody will want to watch it. " >proceed to release 30 minutes long video.

[@SleepyDudu]

Law Hansel and everybody watch the video anyway

[@Aereto]

A typical TV schedule length. 😉

[@skycorrigan6511]

I'd watch 60 min. Lol

[@Lets_get_wealthy]

I think Buildzoid should do the PCB reviews LIVE. Would take 5 hours and I would watch it anyway

[@kostasbezaitis2695]

I'm launching a startup featuring Buildzoid doing ASMR PCB rundowns.

[@oompaloompa9000]

Thanks for making these videos and putting in the time. I think this channel is the only one that actually digs into the details and thoroughly tests components, and that's why I follow. Really really informative!

[@S3rial85]

"the video would be 40 minutes long"...makes 30 minute video :)

[@DaedalEVE]

I SERIOUSLY LOVE these deep dives on mobo architectures/engineering. Learning so much! Wish there was a breakdown like this of my Rampage V Edition 10.

[@georgeindestructible]

I would watch this even if it was 2 hours long, it's good stuff damn it!

[@Leviathan83]

I feel amped after watching this.

[@oompaloompa9000]

Bruno Alex I know watt you're saying.

[@dannymitchell6131]

I'm glad there's a channel that actually understands overclocking and what's needed to do it well. Pandering to 1% of 1% lol For those of you complaining, you can go watch Linus. Enjoy the thumbnails.

[@VredesbyrdNoir]

I've been waiting months for this analysis and got up in the middle of the night to watch it. Thanks Buildzoid!

[@-eMpTy-]

I only understood half of the video but still watched it to the end :^)

[@DarkPa1adin]

All I understood was that this board is better than MSI G. Like z390

[@delta9k]

Always appreciate Buildzoid's in-depth breakdowns, Thanks.

[@mattsmechanicalssi5833]

I so want one of these boards! I running an EVGA X79 DARK, and it's incredible. Don't know why more manufacturers don't use 90 degree power and SATA connectors. My X79 DARK is the same way.

[@jaguilar101]

I want to see a full breakdown and analysis of the Dyson PCB. Those other "tech" channels are not even scratching the surface with their lazy reviews. Guess they didn't get paid enough.

[@totinospizzarolls4737]

Yes plz more succ videos

[@CarlosGarcia-ev9sc]

Says that video could've been a 40 minute and nobody would watch it... Decides to post a 28 minute video on a vrm analysis. Jokes aside, anyone who would go through a half-hour motherboard vrm-analysis would probably go through a 40 minute video as well.

[@amadtaz]

You guys need to do this with an iMac Pro. I really want to know your opinion on the parts in there. Especially since you've done so many for PC boards. Since an iMac Pro can't be overclocked and gets really hot, I'm really curious to hear how Apple's components will hold up.

[@Edouardrc666]

Buildzoid videos are always fun to watch. It' like one of the few youtube vids that are actuall educating.

[@JeremyDunham-Solomon777]

I love these reviews. Watched from start to finish... and NOW I WANT ONE!!!!!!!

[@SiggyPony]

I would watch a full motherboard analysis!!! I love these videos :)

[@__aceofspades]

While Im definitely not interested in a $500 motherboard, I vastly appreciate its functional abilities over the nzxt motherboard which is almost all aesthetics and gimmicks. Function>form.

[@Marko-wi1lb]

wow.. literally just spent 30 minutes not having an absolute clue what was being said but somehow still enjoyed it!

[@flyingfajitas]

Buildzoid doing a 40 min PCB analysis would actually be really nice to watch.

[@zimmerman1031]

Comment about length of video.

[@xDevscom_EE]

Thanks for review, you are nearly spot on points :). Just few points: Skylake-X even at max LN2 OC it's more like 700-800ish, and actual VRM losses are less than your numbers by 30% or so, meaning even at CPU LN2 the VRM never get over +60c with lil airflow around heatsink ;). I have some thermal photos and power captures on X299 DARK OC Guide at xdevs.com/guide/e299ocg/#splim. I've chosen Intersil VRM for memory to keep things easier on design. There are many considerations, not just power and cost. And you use Kingpincooling Inferno to keep memory above ambient and be happy for long OC, ha. :)

[@GrimmieXII]

Would absolutely buy this board (or an edition for future intel/threadripper processor gens) when I finally start building my workstation PC. Have had my eye on this ever since GN first reviewed it.

[@gen-X-trader]

Question on amps. Do you mean Milliamps? Just thinking of 12vdc or even 120ac and the wire you need to pass 200 actual amps is the size of your thumb

[@DGCastell]

BZ always slays this topics, great video.

[@guardyangel]

This video is a work of art. Thank you!

[@DonkeysRChaos]

I understand this videos maybe boring, but they have lot's of info. I got this MB thanks to this guy's reviews.

[@PawelJackowski]

More videos like this please 😀 tons of information in one video

[@user-JinJunWu]

s2pid question here ~ you using stylus or mouse ? damn smooth writing you showing there.

[@tenissabbalas]

In the Video you mention some pretty good DDR4 overclocking results. Can you please tell which type of DDR4 are you using for achieving those results? I Just bought that bord and i want to populate it with some Killer Ram.

[@ujiltromm7358]

This and the Palit card? Wow you are on a roll!

[@Zurvv]

I'm using the x299 dark... loving it. i was coming from the gaming 9 from gigabtype (it was crap)

[@jt92]

so hold on a second, if I understood this analysis correctly, just the VRM has a BoM of 100+ USD??? what the actual fuck. there's entire boards that cost less than that.

[@DummyAccount]

That could be the retail price of every component but sice these kind of companies buy in bulk it could end up being even cheaper for evga buyin tons of them as oposed to the genral public buys a handfull

[@vnyggi621]

AsciiGDL Its still really expensive

[@bw8992]

Thank you Buildzoid you do know your stuff

[@realonezx4841]

Buildzoid this kid is KING.

[@CriticoolHit]

I could, and would preferred to have watched the 2 hour in depth analysis. This is an education if anything.

[@ccricers]

Impression from the first 5 seconds- that is an oddly shaped motherboard with the notches placed next to angled connectors. Reminds me of an Apple board.

[@rustyshackleford5668]

ccricers Except It's by a company that gives a shit about It's customers

[@Felipe_Pessoal]

What a great video! One question, as this mb uses doublers and the controller supports 1mhz, what should i set on my bios to get 500khz for each “phase” ? 1000khz or 500khz?? Thanks

[@dabombinablemi6188]

The way the VRM works reminds me of my P5Q Deluxe, it turns off 12 of its 16 phases when the demand is low.

[@bulzaiguard]

So when is the full pcb breakdown going to be released ;)

[@zerospampls3980]

Hey will there even come a review about Raven Ridge!?

[@GamersNexus]

Zero Spampls We are posting individual content pieces on it. We already listed thermals. Gaming tests are done, we just need to film it. Lots going on this week.

[@zerospampls3980]

Yeah i have seen those. I was just wondering cause there are almost 1 month in and bairly content from your site! Btw. did AMD refused to send you a review sample or why did you purchased them on your own?

[@tenissabbalas]

Amazing , thank you very much.. Please Give Us more !!!!!

[@alexconstantin7022]

Bulldzoid is a genous!!! Dude I love these vids from you :D!!!!

[@shann193]

Could you please do an analysis on the new VRM and cooler design on the Gigabyte x299 Auros gaming 7 PRO with a de-lided chip and how does it compare to the gaming 7/9/Ultra's old VRM and heat-sink designs? Also would there be a benefit to using such a board with something like a 7820x de-lided over other boards???

[@GglSux]

@ActuallyHardwareOverClocking (( Or who ever might know)) Does the"FIVER" mean that the "CPU" dissipates more heat since it has this "additional" conversion "OnChip" as compared to letting the VRM's take "all the heat" for converting to the "final voltage" ?? Thanks for Your knowledgeable and interesting videos, best regards.

[@vnyggi621]

GglSux yes of course, but not much I would imagine.

[@cmdrflint9115]

Nice video, although most of it went over my head + I'm sure my middle of the road z370 board uses those fancy ISL99227b thingys as part of its vrm, almost certain I saw them listed on the spec sheet, would have thought they'd have advertised using such a premium part.

[@philippelamounier2623]

Great analysis !

[@Kriae]

I feel so smart watching these videos even if I don't understand anything.

[@bowmanbk1]

Ummm, what's the purpose of the m.2 slot by the io's, especially if it has a cover over it normally?

[@DoctorWho14615]

How well will this run a Dyson vacuum?

[@Karthig1987]

In my country Asus rampage VI apex makes it in but for EVGA only has power supply presence. So should i import in this baord or get the apex board?

[@SylwerDragon]

I think for those ram modules there is powerful transistor for stability reasons. nothing else because as you said it isn't exactly about wattage

[@Djay0Epizode]

when a see the debacle on kingpin card (1080ti ), good design too hard to produce ? ( high return on out of box fault from the sample size of one reseller)

[@erickzav]

Hello, why you haven't reviewed EVGA Z370 FTW Motherboard (134-KS-E377-KR) please review it I had to get one in order to get a video card but it is still unopened I want to know if it is worth to keep it instead of my Asrock Z370 Extreme4, than you.

[@inqizzo]

I love watching old motherboard reviews, i know full well that it will be no use to me

[@EliasEH89]

Best board ever, born for the 7980xe

[@CheapSushi]

Do ASUS & Gigabyte workstation and server boards even come close to the quality of components this has? Or are they just "good enough" "certified"?

[@railroadsniper]

Can y’all do 3960X vs 8700k video please?

[@VGDocs]

"This video would be 40 minutes long and nobody would want to watch it." Video is 28 minutes long and nobody wants to watch it. jk of course :P

[@jvccr7533]

Who would not want to watch as much GN as they could?

[@dayspoiler4608]

i keep skipping forward to a bit i know i'm gonna understand and i can't find it

[@mr.needmoremhz4148]

In depth looks at PCB's of course i would watch longer video. Very interesting stuff good video :)

[@Bourinos02]

He's not wrong, it's still 25% shorter than what it would be :-)

[@hugevibez]

I'd watch 2 hours of buildzoid talking about this motherboard

[@SolidBoss7]

I have no idea what most of this means but I was super triggered by him leaving out that last square when talking about the VCCIN and VCORE. Then when he numbered them and didn't immediately explain what that last square was I almost lost my mind.

[@Darkswordz]

I think I had a nerdgasm when you said "4,120Mhz at CL12". :)

[@mdgreathouse]

This is tech porn for an electrical engineer like myself. I LOVE these PCB analysis videos.

[@MPowerPH]

I would see a VRM review on the newly released Rampage VI Extreme Omega, which got 16 Phase VRM without doublers. Just for comparison with the Dark. Would be very useful.

[@rossyboyw]

I'd really like to see the new Maximus X Apex, mine just arrived

[@killercat268]

Great vid!

[@cotes42]

15:20 how does the board run with a "puddle" on it?

[@B3MMi]

24:43 Didn't know you knew Luumi :O

[@vietnamabc2290]

Not to dis EVGA but for a EATX board why did EVGA limit the RAM to only 4 slots?

[@TheFlacker99]

If only EVGA made an AM4 mobo...I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I have a PSU and a 970 from them.

[@toaster_bloke9999]

The mere thought of AMD terrifies EVGA, don't expect any product from them touching anything AMD has made anytime soon

[@nimrodery]

Industry rumors say the opposite. NVidia's treatment of vendors might prompt EVGA to issue AMD graphics cards soon. Where do you get "the mere thought of AMD terrifies EVGA?" Business is about making money, as far as I know.

[@toomaspruuden3940]

All this beauty... and only 4 memory sockets?!

[@tmi1234567]

For better memory overclocking. Shorter and less traces with 1 dimm per channel

[@sbeve7445]

11:29 Why I saw LGA 2011-3 on the Plastic socket cover? Isn't it supposed to be LGA 2066?

[@rsu87]

Steven Heung probably they have a box of these covers and just put a random one in it for the video

[@Mandurath]

As much as I appreciate these videos, and I would watch an hour long review as well. But wouldn't GN make more if it was broke down to 10m videos?

[@MrKZdemos]

cant wait to use this mobo for my kabbylake x cpu!

[@XFourty7]

Not complaining but... If you mention people don't like watching long videos at the beginning of a "long" video, well, there are enough comments already about this lol. You (buildzoid) should really write a script for your videos man. I don't dislike what you do, but I'm sure you acknowledge the amount of pause time and going back to re-explain things adds up :P

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

I have an outline for most of my videos these days. Doesn't stop me from taking a month regardless.

[@juhopetrell1878]

Your thermal grizzly ad is still wrong. You dropped Sky lakeX's temperatures by 20C not Coffee lake's.

[@webfischi]

What is this for a strange slot above the audio outputs? It's too small for an M.2 and there is normally a shield covering it. But this thing is really a beast, it has Creative Sound Core3D Audio Chip, and I am as a proud owner of a Soundblaster Z, know what this chip is capable of. That's truely a motherboard with a REAL onboard sound chip, and not with such a crappy Realtek chip.

[@Nethanieal]

Thats the Board I wanted in my new build , but went with z370 Asus X Maximus hero . because who is going to pay 500 USD for that .. almost 700 CAD . Overkill and Overpriced. EVGA boards where really well rounded, The x-58 through x-99 did better with the price and where just as good overclockers. Proper VRM cooling yah but dont expect those 35/40 mm fans to be quite under load unless you replace them with noctua fans maybe but . Bring that price down to under 500 and I will think about it ....

[@VividMac101]

Nathaniel Brown The X299 Dark is $468 CDN on Amazon Canada right now. I’m so tempted to build a X299 system instead of Z390. I just love this motherboard and I need to have it.

[@parasecglenkwyst4835]

I've been waiting for this since you first mentioned it first, I guess... before cristmas?

[@dcheverie]

Where is he from? I haven't heard anyone talk liKe thaT before.

[@KaitlynFedrick]

He's Czech but lives in UK

[@justinmichael6127]

I would watch a lot more of videos like this. I may need to do some internet browsing to get me more.

[@1GAMEDOG1]

Absolutely no idea what any of this means. Anyone have any educational links on this stuff?

[@KaitlynFedrick]

If you go on his channels he's done stuff to help.

[@jadoei13]

Get a decent physics or electrical engineering book. If you don't want to, Wiki and crashcourse physics might help

[@memadmax69]

Just the 2, 8 Pin mobo power connectors alone is a good hint that this mobo means serious business... ^.^

[@OutOfRangeDE]

When my exams are over in a week i will watch this video and suck up the infos but right now i dont want to destroy my brain with additional "heavy work load" ;)

[@Startekselva]

Buildzoid I do own x299 dark for one year now with 7960x recently upgraded to 9980xe brand new all working good upgraded to new bios too while validating with Cpuz I got blue screen error and cpu malfunction led starts to glow in red colour help help help

[@Startekselva]

found the issue its EVGA E-LEET software removed now its gone

[@axemastersinc3269]

This puppy supports Windows XP. Will it also support Windows 7?

[@psionx1]

RAM may only need 4 watts but for DIMM based SSDs 25watts per stick isn't unthinkable.

[@vega1287]

If you are oberclocking that much how does the mainboard not melt with that many amps

[@james2042]

I coulda swore that stock the 7980xe and the 7960x could push almost 500 watts when under an all core load (granted thermals stayed in check). I know those two chips can chew through even a 280 aio and you're pretty much forced into 360 bare minimum. I know if I ever got a 7980xe, I would have 4x140mm worth of rad JUST for the cpu. Side note, evga, please eat your pride and make a x399 board. I would love to see competent vrm cooling for a 1950x.

[@dickr9345]

AFAIK it has nothing to do with pride. They have an exclusivity deal with intel, which intel pays them good money for.

[@TrueMegaManiac]

Would love to see a Z370 Dark.

[@clausbohm9807]

Damn dude you should work for EVGA ... or get together with me and we will design our own mother boards since I am a PCB designer!

[@BrentKung89]

i wonder when they will start using GaN FETs in VRMs?

[@Leonardogfa]

Buildzoid is GOD TEAR

[@Najvalsa]

Classic "quick video" from Buildzoid.

[@PeteSinHouston]

I really, really wanted to like this board. When everything is installed and running it’s a beast. The problem is qa / qc. It doesn’t exist at evga anymore. Top line products like this should not have flimsy soldering issues or cpu bracket that doesn’t even have, well... a bracket. Just pins sticking out. Too many quality problems at what should be the premier wintel component shop. No more.

[@Jolinator]

Flimsy soldering? i have 3 of these boards along with some asrock boards and they have been flawless. Sounds like you got open box/ returned boards? there is no way a board ships without a Cpu hold down socket.

[@Critters]

Only complaint is that your 1's look like 7's. I know you add a line to 7's, but a lot of people don't

[@alexwang1th]

professional stuff