Riding the WORST Motocross Bike Of All Time!

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999lazer

999lazer

Күн бұрын

We ride the worst Dirt Bike ever made, but just how bad can it really be? Let's find out!
The Cannondale MX400 is widely regarded as the least successful motocross machine in the history of the sport. After loads of initial hype the Cannondale was ultimately hated on by both the press and the public despite its many revolutionary features and concepts. In this video we dive into the history of the ground breaking 4 stroke, and the company behind it, to find out why the MX 400 is considered such a failure, and of course Max will take the Cannondale for a spin to see if he really thinks this is the worst MX bike of all time...
A big thanks goes out to Guy Redshaw for being such a cool human and letting us play with his bikes for the day and to George from Greenfield Dirt Track for such as awesome track and facility.
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@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. If you'd like to see something a little crazy check out our latest video too featuring the CR1000 two stroke dirt bike on the track! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKGnk5-fbKyYeLs Cheers Max (999lazer)
@thereal2scummy636
@thereal2scummy636 11 ай бұрын
Did you say it only made 43hp? My 03 yz125 made 39hp on dyno lol😂
@bradleypuckett4046
@bradleypuckett4046 Жыл бұрын
In 2003 I worked at a dealer that sold these. The owner threw box after box of new parts into the dumpster per the request of Cannondale. I came back later and pulled the parts out the dumpster. Took them home and stashed them in the garage to only have my mother throw them away. Thanks mom.
@27Zangle
@27Zangle Жыл бұрын
Bummer.
@OldestYoungenInGuidePost
@OldestYoungenInGuidePost Жыл бұрын
My mother threw away a brass coca-cola belt buckle with the words coca-cola on and a picture of a woman with really nice tits on it😳! Her reasoning was that the leather belt was dry and had a bit of damage,😳😳🤔 The brass bit was perfect and the leather belt could have been replaced! I’ve never seen one again but when I looked for it I saw a few others that were similar and they were all in the £300-£400 Or $315-$415 price ranges, she also threw away a Ralph Loren t-shirt that was in blue and looked distressed and it was nearly £600 😳🤷🏻‍♂️ Her response was, it had a few lose stitches under the arm pit, a needle and thread 🪡 could have fixed it 🤷🏻‍♂️ She has also thrown out some vintage clothing that I had saved from the tip 🤷🏻‍♂️
@mikeoconnell9019
@mikeoconnell9019 Жыл бұрын
@@OldestYoungenInGuidePostR.I.P
@huckfinn4260
@huckfinn4260 Жыл бұрын
My mother threw away all manner of my priceless collectable treasures that she had no clue of what value they held. She wanted nothing more than an empty house. I'll often see things on eBay selling for big$, and I say to myself, "I used to have a bunch of those".
@satan101101
@satan101101 Жыл бұрын
Every mom in this world love empty house 🥲
@jacobg130productions
@jacobg130productions Жыл бұрын
This is one of those bikes where I genuinely feel like there was something there, something that could’ve opened doors and changed things. Instead it was the classic tale of: “So far ahead of it’s time it should’ve waited for it’s time to come.”
@FalseHope61
@FalseHope61 Жыл бұрын
Yeah man. So far ahead of its time. Saw one as a kid at redbud during the nationals in 2001 during the amateur night races. I forgot the name of it until I came across this video. I just remembered how different it looked compared to everything else there.
@jacobg130productions
@jacobg130productions Жыл бұрын
@@alienrocketscienceshared8454 as someone who’s read thoroughly comprehensive stories of the KTM 4 stroke game changer and the Cannondale here and I can say this is most certainly not the case.
@motoyamasnigglepuff8654
@motoyamasnigglepuff8654 Жыл бұрын
Lmao it's a God dam Harley four stroke lawnmower engine God dam heavy as fuck pile of fart can shit....it's 2T only!
@denniswilder3014
@denniswilder3014 Жыл бұрын
​@@jacobg130productionshad one of these bikes.it was not as bad as people say.itveas fast as hell.sent the suspension to f.c and it handled pretty good.after a bunch of reflash it cleaned up the idle and was pretty good.wish they stuck it out.
@wannabecarguy
@wannabecarguy Жыл бұрын
The best explanation I got was, the exhaust pipe was too short and was hard on the head/valves. But I thought it was going to be awesome,then it wasn't.
@ducsauce
@ducsauce Жыл бұрын
I worked at a dealership that sold them, we also sold the ATV version as well, full of trick parts and lots of fresh ideas, they were very fast when it ran but they were hugely unreliable, so many engine failures, we were instructed to send engines back for Cannondale to verify what went wrong, all the dealers send so many back that they called and said please stop sending them in as they had so many blown engines. The ATV were definitely better than the bike.
@huckfinn4260
@huckfinn4260 Жыл бұрын
Every time I ride my 1983 CR480R or my 2001 CR500R I am reminded of how nice those thick seats were and wonder why the bloody hell can't they put a reasonable seat on the modern bikes instead of those sadistic torture devices they try to pass off as a seat these days. I also wonder why all the plastic has to be so ridiculously pointy. It was so much more pleasing when it was smooth and curvaceous. Plastics on modern bikes look like Madonna's bra stuffed with a mace and some pyramids. Nothing but silly multitudes of sharp points, creases and edges. I do appreciate the brakes on the modern bikes vs the vintage bikes.
@paytongoff1429
@paytongoff1429 Жыл бұрын
They should have played it safe in the market for a few years and introduced the innovation little by little
@leniburnham9219
@leniburnham9219 10 ай бұрын
Exactly right, maybe contract an engine from rotax or others and concentrate on the chassis and suspension and getting that all ironed out...too much to design from the ground up unless you have an unlimited budget and time.
@jbird1173
@jbird1173 Жыл бұрын
I raced a moto 440 quad. I did a pre production demo ride in Florida and knew this thing was a game changer. I pulled every holeshot I lined up on that season. And with the factory tuning software we were able to get rid of the flame out issue and make close to 50hp with a slip on
@devincook3278
@devincook3278 Жыл бұрын
These bikes were manufactured by many of my friends' dads in my tiny little hometown in Bedford, PA. I grew up across the street from the factory. I remember they had a test track a few miles away that we could go and get sneak peaks of the bike. Before the dirtbike days we used to dumpster dive for "defective" mtb parts all the time bc the factory was a long time bicycle manufacturing facility before they started the mx bike and 4 wheeler manufacturing venture. Good memories.
@guyredshaw1422
@guyredshaw1422 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic story. Thanks for sharing!
@iikavanaghii
@iikavanaghii 11 ай бұрын
Really like that you get the owner of the bike and have a sit down and chat about it. Helps us establish what's been done on the bike, the history of it, the community around it and why they spend time to fix up or make the bikes better. This channel is fantastic!
@999lazer
@999lazer 11 ай бұрын
thank you :)
@kylejonesUB
@kylejonesUB Жыл бұрын
I remember when it came out and we (in our early teens) were stoked to see the tech and advancements.
@daneg
@daneg Жыл бұрын
to be honest, all of the horrible tics against the bike are perfectly reasonable for a brand new bike (make and model). were they actually expecting to turn a profit on year one release? even new model revamps are a huge gamble (see the trouble with KTM's first year fuel injection, electric start and mapping on 2-strokes). all are great performance and convenience ideas, but anyone who bought one was a guinea pig.
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
bang on, thanks for watching :)
@biggerchris20
@biggerchris20 Жыл бұрын
Your absolutely right. Its rare for a gen 1 anything to be perfect. Especially getting into a new game.
@paulkarp958
@paulkarp958 Жыл бұрын
Spot on, even a first year new model japanese can turn back time for a year till kinks are worked out. Starting anything new takes patience and really knowing it to improve it .
@jeff40
@jeff40 Жыл бұрын
The Cannondale 400mx could have been one of the greatest 4-strokes ever made,just they came out too early. Cannondale also used German Maico's when they brought their 500cc.620cc.& 700cc. 2T intimidators out. A superb brand that marketed their fuel injected 4-strokes a little bit to early.
@26tbucket
@26tbucket Жыл бұрын
I saw two atvs have their engines split in half in two runs up a sand dune. Same guy. He owned one and one was the loaner from the dealer. That's not a first year tic. They went bankrupt before the one he owned was fixed. I just kept racing my 250r on the stock piston season after season.
@TJ-yr3rw
@TJ-yr3rw Жыл бұрын
You can actually make big power out of these engines. I have a dyno and I race motocross on quads and bikes and with the quads I normally don’t have any issues. It runs as good or better than all the modern 450’s. The bike’s performance was limited from the exhaust and intake system tho. They actually made a new chassis bike called the x440 which was a big improvement over the mx400 but went bankrupt before it could take off
@macattack9041
@macattack9041 11 ай бұрын
No way that runs like a new 450f bro.
@supra1jzed
@supra1jzed 11 ай бұрын
A friend of mine had a X440. Not only did my 426 absolutely shit on it on track, it did so reliably. Mike had gone through 2 engines in a few months. I surely hope the X440 and the crapload of problems they had were not actually "improved" over the 400. I met a handful of Cannondale riders and not a single one of them had great success stories. Here's the wild kicker of it all. I still have my 426F and it's been my woods racing bike for quite some time. Still violent as all hell and only things really done are suspension upgrades as better tech comes along. In B class, she's still doing exceptionally well. There's no way in hell a Cannondale would have survived this long with just valve adjustments along the way....
@paulbudford
@paulbudford Жыл бұрын
I remember the reviews when it came out. Such a shame it didn't work out. Thanks Guy for letting Max ride it.
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
CheersPaul, Guy was such a legend for letting me ride it. Its a privilege to make these videos and document such a cool piece of mx history :)
@guyredshaw1422
@guyredshaw1422 Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. We had a great time at Greenfield👍
@paulbudford
@paulbudford Жыл бұрын
@@guyredshaw1422 beautiful bike. I can see why you needed to own one. 👌
@kevinmee3501
@kevinmee3501 Жыл бұрын
Nice video Max, Glad you enjoyed riding the old plodder, the track looks great, great photography well done to team Max.
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Thank Kevin, it was a fun day. Thanks for checking the video out. We know we can always rely on you :)
@russmcdermid3139
@russmcdermid3139 Жыл бұрын
Great all encompassing & well produced video, Guys .... I bought a virtually original E440 in the UK (this was the Enduro version produced a few years later). There was not much on the net about these innovative machines & you have told the whole story, and covered it well. Thanks to Guy for sharing his saga on the renovation too ... Mine is running well, but I'm too scared to take it out in anger, just in case it breaks ! Maybe Vinduro in a couple of years, when its eligible & the truck is close at hand :)
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Hi Russ, Thanks for your comment. Good to know there are some more out there:)
@tapitout
@tapitout Жыл бұрын
I sold Guy that bike, one of 3 Cannondales that came my way. Good work Guy I told you they were better than the hype.
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Glad you got to see it in action :) Cheers Max
@guyredshaw1422
@guyredshaw1422 Жыл бұрын
Cheerz mate!
@flyinghigh7779
@flyinghigh7779 Жыл бұрын
It still looks like brand new,I was excited for this bike,they tried to put too much new tech on it at once though,needed more time testing to sort everything out before production,beautiful welds on frame and swingarm,Ohlins suspension was sweet,sounds very torquey
@brianbush3247
@brianbush3247 Жыл бұрын
Good video and I think you are very accurate in your assessment of the bike. I had an X440 I bought from a guy on the east coast (US), who had actually won a MX championship on it in 2003. I liked the handling quite a bit. It had good suspension, a good clutch and even decent power, when it ran. I had 3 different maps I could load on it with my laptop. The E map was soft and linear, for enduro. The X map was sort of an all around style, moderate map and then there was an aggressive map for motocross. Way, way ahead of it's time, as many here have stated. It stranded me far out from my truck a few times and I got fed up and tired of working on it and finally overreacted and got an XR400 because I wanted something stone reliable. Compared to the Cannondale, the XR was very reliable, but I think the power, handling, suspension, ergonomics and even the brakes were better on the Cannondale. I remember dreaming about stuffing the XR engine in the Cannondale chassis, to get something reliable that rode like the Cannondale. Since then, I have had many bikes but I still remember the feeling of riding that bike and I agree that it was a lot of fun to ride (when it would start, or stay running). I am glad people have figured out how to make them run reliably now. Kinda makes me with I had held on to that bike.
@SuperMustanggt88
@SuperMustanggt88 Жыл бұрын
Great video ! I worked at cannondale in bedford pa in the shipping g dept when these were being developed. It was said Harley Davidson wanted to be partners with building these bikes but cannondale refused . The quads were wild looking .
@zydecbro
@zydecbro Жыл бұрын
Had one but an X440 and I absolutely loved it!! I had Black Widow rebuild the engine doing all recall and upgrade work, had the efi system upgraded, had the suspension srung a valved for my weight then rode it hard for 200 plus hrs before selling it
@jimhimesjr
@jimhimesjr Жыл бұрын
They made these fairly close to where I live. Still know lots of people that worked on the project, from what I’ve been told test riders and engineers told management that it wasn’t ready and still needed development but they pushed ahead anyways and lost everything.
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
such a shame as the bike was so ahead of its time
@f5tornadeau
@f5tornadeau Жыл бұрын
Sounds about right for corporate bureaucrats.
@bobg3034
@bobg3034 Жыл бұрын
Was the bike made in Bedford PA.?
@jimhimesjr
@jimhimesjr Жыл бұрын
@@bobg3034 I know a lot of the bike was made in Bedford. I’m sure parts were sourced from different locations though
@EarthSurferUSA
@EarthSurferUSA Жыл бұрын
@@bobg3034 Yes, I interviewed there, drove there from Michigan, but turned down a job offer for it was not enough money. 6 months later, MXA destroyed all their hopes in the biggest hit piece review they had ever written, (by far). The Motorcycle building was 4 miles from the Bicycle building. The Tucker automobile was destroyed in much the same way, but with the help of people in Congress, because the industry did not want to compete with him. We sure lost a lot of opportunity there,---and here.
@irod2821
@irod2821 Жыл бұрын
One of my all time favorite bikes. You were def having fun on her, great episode👍
@rfiskillingussoftly6568
@rfiskillingussoftly6568 Жыл бұрын
Your riding is improving still max! The poor cannondale is going to get stone chips from the Yzilla!
@TWDStroke
@TWDStroke Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a vid on an Aprilia..
@pomeranianchannel
@pomeranianchannel 4 ай бұрын
I was one of the first sponsored riders in AZ when that came out. It had the craziest engine braking I have ever experienced. The first time I rode it hard. I went over the bars 2 to 3 times on the first lap.
@f5tornadeau
@f5tornadeau Жыл бұрын
Yamaha bringing out 4 stroke motocross bikes and the only Japanese manufacturer still making full sized 2 strokes. Still funny to me…
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Haha I'd never thought of it like that lol Thanks for watching dude
@Davido50
@Davido50 Жыл бұрын
Cannondale couldve been extremely good! All American innovation hardly fails.
@mattcollins3572
@mattcollins3572 Жыл бұрын
I had a 1965 Ford mustang in 1987 at the age of 16 and it seemed really ancient. Now 2001 seems like just yesterday.
@Bryan-Hensley
@Bryan-Hensley Жыл бұрын
I still talk about my 1999 Chevy van like it's new technology
@abracing199
@abracing199 Жыл бұрын
very cool mini documentary man. great video.
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it:) Cheers Max
@heretocheckoutstuff
@heretocheckoutstuff Жыл бұрын
Really cool video I need up watching it twice. The bike looks and sounds pretty good. The handling looks like a 2005 yz450 doesn’t do anything special but does everything nice. You look really comfortable on there
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching mate :-) I actually really enjoyed riding the bike, which surprised me a lot. I thought it was going to be a complete donkey! lol
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv Жыл бұрын
My issue, was when I had the chance to take the bike on practice laps at Glen Helen. It was that it had the nastiest push in turns. It would always cause cross-rutting in anything but a freshly groomed track. After some hard laps and the track is beat up I would go over the bars more times that I wanted to getting crossed up. It rarely happened on my Kawasaki race bike other than when I messed up.
@EarthSurferUSA
@EarthSurferUSA Жыл бұрын
My 2019 YZ250 2-stoke was the worst stock 250cc bike I ever owned. But I set it up well and fixed it. There are ways to fix your problems with the adjustment available, and I bet you did not have a clue. No offense. it takes time and experience to set a bike up well, and the factories can't do it for everybody.
@stevenstiles5112
@stevenstiles5112 Жыл бұрын
Well done, Guy. Thanks for sharing your passion, brilliant video .
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Steven. Guy is so passionate about these bikes, such a cool guy to make a film with.
@guyredshaw1422
@guyredshaw1422 Жыл бұрын
Many thanx! Appreciate the comment🙏
@Diazamps
@Diazamps Жыл бұрын
What a gem! I remember seeing them race at AMA pro nationals
@deanofakesie8153
@deanofakesie8153 Жыл бұрын
You could do lap board (bit like top gear use to do ) and record your lap time every time you ride a different bike
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
We've just got hold of a crossbox (GPS lap timer) so have started to do that :) Thanks for watching Deano
@mandrakejake
@mandrakejake Жыл бұрын
That sounds fun but I think the track won't be consistent enough for any real comparison
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 Жыл бұрын
Tonight! Max rides a 500, Nevelle tests a 620, and Hammond crashes..😄
@ryanclayton6496
@ryanclayton6496 6 ай бұрын
My 2000 WR 400 had the dry sump tung oil checked and filled at the top of the frame. I loved it.
@sendaaja8809
@sendaaja8809 Жыл бұрын
What a great and informative video. Thanks dude
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@DUBYA-DUBYA
@DUBYA-DUBYA Жыл бұрын
I have 3 cannondale quads and one dirt bike. I have an 02 E440. They have a few issues but once fixed they are badass. Way ahead of there time and manufactured in Bedford Pennsylvania. Only 2 hours from me
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. That's what we figured, its a fun bike to ride now its sorted.
@JimmyBeanz13
@JimmyBeanz13 Жыл бұрын
less than an hour from me and I didn't know that!
@chrisvozza6530
@chrisvozza6530 Жыл бұрын
Wow I remember when this bike came out. I was excited for it especially cuz it was made in the US. But unfortunately it wasn't a good one.super thanks to the owner who kept it going and didn't give up on this bike. I thought it didn't exist anymore
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Chris. I'd almost given up hope of finding one to make a video with so was super happy when Guy got in touch.
@paulwilliams8588
@paulwilliams8588 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful welding.. They're well known for it. Interesting video mate👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Cheers Paul :)
@sixtysecondsofstephens2386
@sixtysecondsofstephens2386 Жыл бұрын
Great feature on the bike I remember it being in the magazine TBM back in the day. Sounds proper old school.
@T.S.-eo7my
@T.S.-eo7my 5 ай бұрын
Test drove one of these in Silver City back in the day. Build quality of the machine was impeccable with an MSRP to match. Came very close to buying one. Parts/dealership support at the time was almost non-existent and a turn off. Tough sale when the Japanese manufactures were just about to release their sub-250lb aluminum frame 2-stroke racers for less than $6000, the YZ four strokes making a big stink in outdoor MX and the DRZ400 setting the pace in the off-road/single track scene.
@64maxpower
@64maxpower Жыл бұрын
Love your work Max. You truly have a passion for our sport
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I really appreciate your comment :)
@graemejohnsen2582
@graemejohnsen2582 Жыл бұрын
Where did the bloody emus come from in the background early shot...? Great review as always keep it up Max Graeme in Sydney.
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Haha, A bit random they were. Thanks Graeme:)
@graemejohnsen2582
@graemejohnsen2582 Жыл бұрын
@@999lazer hey I'm an old 2 stroke rider...had Huskys but wr250 and wr360 enduros...and I owned 1 of the first 2 Cooper 250 enduros registered in Australia...made in Mexico sold by the local Maico dealer here in Sydney early 70s...I have some photos but fairly pedestrian by today's standards...at 68 still sometimes ride my husky te310... don't like falling off much though now...lol. love your stuff Mac.
@crazychad2720
@crazychad2720 Жыл бұрын
I raced the quads semi pro in America back in 02. You had to do a couple simple mods and upgrades, and you had a awesome powerplant. I never rode their bike but that motor is a capable power house.
@brettmorter3058
@brettmorter3058 Жыл бұрын
I had an 03 440 moto quad and it hands down was one of the most stand out quad I've ever ridden... although I was fairly modded
@justanotherjackleg7073
@justanotherjackleg7073 Жыл бұрын
Funny seeing this. I was at the test ride weekend at the factory from September 8-10. I know that was the date because me and the shop owner had to rent a car to drive back to Texas because of 9/11. Temperamental is an understatement. The worst thing is that it would die sometimes and scare the s*** out of you. I watched Robbie Reynard race Josh Demuth in Floresville and he was beating him until it died on him. It actually handled pretty well; however, in some situations it would feel too stiff like the '97 Hondas. If they would have stuck with the bikes instead of the 4-wheelers it could have been a decent bike. Still have the cross-country version sitting in the garage. Not sure I'd vote it as the worst motocross bike ever. There were lots of terrible ones.
@thelumix5034
@thelumix5034 Жыл бұрын
Very very interesting bike/story. Thanks for sharing this piece of history with us
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to watch dude :-)
@450kman
@450kman Жыл бұрын
Back in the day, I was expecting a nightmare after reading all the negative press about the Cannondale, but on a dry hardpack track it was a pleasant surprise. Handling was pretty good, as was suspension. About the only annoying thing (other than the hiccup and die) was its short breadth of power; the bike would start pulling good, and you would expect it to keep building power, but it just didn't. Time to shift. The rpm range in which it made power was short, or at least that is what if 'felt' like on the track, and this after coming off a yz250 2-stroke. Honestly, it wasn't that bad of a bike for a clean slate first try. Just think what it could have became with continued development. It definitely did not deserve a 'worst bike' moniker.
@denniswilder3014
@denniswilder3014 Жыл бұрын
I had one of these and it was fast as hell.they kept coming out with reflash after reflash and we did some tweaking ourselves and the flame out went away .even got to try Keith Johnson Cannondale that was a great bike heavy but great.
@EarthSurferUSA
@EarthSurferUSA Жыл бұрын
It definitely did not deserve a 'worst bike' moniker. That is why I attacked him, in defense of the great Cannondale effort.
@tedecker3792
@tedecker3792 Жыл бұрын
Another 80million could have fixed it lol!
@davidmc3262
@davidmc3262 Жыл бұрын
thanks max another great video. have you done a video on a 1981 maico 490 I'd like to see what you think of that bike. 👍
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Hi Davind, Yes I have. Here is the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmnCiXevbNJ2eM0
@bartverstijnen2346
@bartverstijnen2346 Жыл бұрын
Dude, you shot this vid at Greenfield dirttrack, yet still we don’t get you to make a flat track video? Come oooon max!! Get your ass on an oval, prefferably on a framer!
@TCON42499
@TCON42499 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Jett Lawrence could win on that
@spencethegreat38
@spencethegreat38 4 ай бұрын
I remember being 10 years old and seeing a 2 page spread about these bikes in a Motocross Action magazine. I thought they looked cool. I asked my uncle who was on the couch with me if he had heard about them and he responded “Cannondale? Like the mountain bike? They make a motorcycle now?” He was just as interested as I was. We always rode Yamaha, Kawasaki, and Honda. I always wondered about these bikes. RIP uncle Steve.
@user-wl3eb1jw3o
@user-wl3eb1jw3o Жыл бұрын
This videos gonna do some numbers mate ❤
@johnhadrava232
@johnhadrava232 Жыл бұрын
Worked on a Cannondale four wheeler once it was actually pretty fast. Cannondale also had a programmer for them to boost up the power.
@Oneal-europe
@Oneal-europe Жыл бұрын
Great Cannondale MX review video Max 💪
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, and that O'Neal set up looked so good on it too :)
@briandstephmoore4910
@briandstephmoore4910 11 ай бұрын
Rode everything but dirt bikes pretty much but yet I love your content on them 🤣
@JanASS1991
@JanASS1991 11 ай бұрын
Cool bike but maintenance seems like a horror. Generally, for weekend warrior rider, underpowered bike seems like a great solution, we don't need all those extra HPs. You are doing a great job with capturing those rare bikes and their stories. Thank you!
@rickybobby7660
@rickybobby7660 Жыл бұрын
Wanted one of these so bad back in the day, the later 440’s were supposed to be better but still not great
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Its still looks pretty trick today to be fair. It was so ahead of its time, shame it wasn't built so well back then!
@vetb882
@vetb882 Жыл бұрын
@999lazer Wassup Max. Here's some trivia that'll bug you out. I went to high school in New Rochelle, NY with a cat named Rafe Schlanger. Rafe was an artistic, mechanical genius even in high school. He rebuilt an entire VW Beetle engine in the middle of his living room and stuck it in the back of a VW that he drove during our last year of high school. That was just a foreshadow of things. I had a 35 lb. CYC stormer that I raced my first BMX race on, almost killed myself because the thing had back pedal brakes, it was heavy, and the track was on the side of a ski slope so you're basically just hauling ass because of momentum. Truth be told all the experts and real racers were sitting there laughing at me and saying "he's going to DIE" but THAT just made me more determined to not crash and I even came home with a 6th place ribbon from the main event. When I told Rafe but I did pretty decent he was super surprised that I got a ribbon riding that clunker so he offered me to use his 22 lb full-blown custom race bike. I never knew a bicycle feel that light and handle so well. It wasn't the difference between winning but I'd jumped up from 6 or 7 now I was running a solid 3rd. Long story short we were set to conquer the world, me through racing and Rafe through engineering the stuff that I would eventually race and test. But things didn't turn out that way, I advance from novice to B Pro in a year-and-a-half and Rafe was still in college earning his engineering degree. By the time he graduated college with his Bachelors Degree I already switched from BMX MX. Truthfully had I known how spectacular it was to go from novice to Pro in one and a half years I would have stayed in BMX and possibly have made a name for, but the allure of more speed with the engine was always gnawing at me. So couple years later after Rafe graduates college with his engineering degree he got the job working for who else, CANNONDALE. Many of the innovations you saw on the Cannondale road and mountain bikes came straight from the head and heart of my BFF in high school, Rafe Schlanger. 😯🤔😎 Rafe told me about Cannondale's intention to create the motorcycle 2 years before anything about it hit the press. I was sworn to secrecy by threat of,.... well, let's just say I like my "stones" exactly where they are, no rearranging necessary😁😁.... Especially having them ripped off🤯🫣 A couple of New England National Pros did the testing and race testing and did rather well in the bike. They qualified for every National the team entered and judging by how fast THOSE guys rode it, it CAN be made to compete at the highest levels. HP is relatively easy to make, good handling is a lot harder as Honda found out. Anyway, back to Rafe. After he left Cannondale he created the Spinergy Rev-X bladed wheels. 🤯😯🧐😁😎, yup, the very wheels that Mario Cippolini PAID his own money to use and WIN the World Cycling Championship back in the day. Spinergy, like Rafe, was years ahead of its time. After he sold that company to a brand I won't mention, he REINVENTED the wheel a second time 😯☺️🏁 with the oddly named Topolino Technologies wheel. (Topolino was the little mouse that watched the inventor Geppeto create Pinocchio) Each spoke goes end to end on opposite sides of the rim and passes through the carbon fiber hub. 🤯 Most wheels that are so light, 1100 grams, have a rider weight limit of 175 lbs or less. The Topolino wheels managed over 5000 miles under a NFL player (American football) weighing almost 275 pounds of solid muscle. 🤯 I mean, holy SHIZNIT!!!! By buddy is so humble for a guy that literally REINVENTED THE WHEEL not once, but TWICE. 💪🏻🏁☺️ I pray that history will remember him and what he's given to this world. Google "Spinergy" and see the history. Topolino tech now makes their wheels for standard and racing wheel chairs. Seems to me that some engineers are pu$$ie$, get scared when facing a revolutionary idea. Rafe is leasing the patent to another company, a huge TdF sponsor, you'll figure it out, but he still gets to use his design in the wheelchairs. He just can't sell them for road cycles anymore. When I find a pic of Spinergy 1, the crude version he mocked up to pitch to venture capitalists I'll post it on FedBook and add the link to this thread. You ROCK Maximus, 2T FOREVER💪🏾🏁💪🏻 BRAAAP BRAAAP
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
That so cool, Thanks for sharing it with me. Rafe sounds like an amazing guy :)
@chrislivengood7350
@chrislivengood7350 11 ай бұрын
I watched the CD race during the 426 era in person. They were quite quick for a few laps and then usually gave up. They were horribly setup though. You'd see them rebound so terribly they'd take a hop off a landing on flat ground. Not nearly enough rebound damping. Additionally, a friend of mine that also did testing for various Japanese companies as well as ATK and Bombardier, the CD as well, has said the bike was under developed and under funded. You have said as much in your video. It's a shame they didn't push on a bit, it could have been a good effort. The 426 and Dough Henry were nuts though. That bike was totally off the charts. I'm a big 2t guy, but that 426 was truly a ride.
@landonadams8259
@landonadams8259 Жыл бұрын
Sporting the black widow sticker, basically everything that killed the company should be fixed on this bike
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Guy (the owner) said the same thing in the video. Thanks for watching.
@danielarney9729
@danielarney9729 Жыл бұрын
All they had to do is make a two stroke while they ironed out odds and ends.I wish they were still here, An American dirt bike company, I would get in line at the dealership. You don't know what you got till it's gone.i love it now just as much as I hated the yz 400 then. Gonna start looking for one. Welds as pretty as a tm.
@flattrack1932
@flattrack1932 Жыл бұрын
Omg ur at greenfield I race there I think u chocks come and try some flattrack mate I think u might like it
@BlindingSun_
@BlindingSun_ Ай бұрын
Killed the company? They still exist
@landonadams8259
@landonadams8259 16 күн бұрын
@@BlindingSun_correct sorry killed the powersports division of the company
@dreamseller01
@dreamseller01 Жыл бұрын
Be really interesting to see an MXV450 review....
@Gremlinsbeabout
@Gremlinsbeabout 11 ай бұрын
id love to see this VS a VERTEMATI (VOR) of the time. they had years of experience of racing GPs and i bet this wasnt far off
@bradenmackey8116
@bradenmackey8116 Жыл бұрын
When I was younger, John Natalie would come and race the local track on a both Cannondale bike and their quad. He would smoke everyone, the machines would break down, he'd get off, figure out the issue, most of the time fix it, and then finish the race and still win.
@Docs77TV
@Docs77TV Жыл бұрын
Great vlogg Max , it was definitely way ahead of its time. can’t wait till next weeks vlogg , 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Thanks Doc, next weeks should be a good one :)
@Docs77TV
@Docs77TV Жыл бұрын
@@999lazer looking forward to it mate 👍🏼
@TheShift1313
@TheShift1313 Жыл бұрын
I remember these being at the dealer in the early 00s along with the 4 whweler they made. I only ever saw grey ones.
@nickacelvn
@nickacelvn 5 ай бұрын
Golden m8 back in the day Cannondale was a force to be reconned with.
@kz6fittycent
@kz6fittycent Жыл бұрын
Max, you should see if you can get hold of the new Buell Dune Racer (once it hits market). I'm a Buell owner, and I cannot get my head around what Buell is thinking with this bike. Check it out if you haven't.
@owenrox0563
@owenrox0563 Жыл бұрын
I race my cannondale atv in xc to this day I love it cannondales are great machines
@SreidMX
@SreidMX Жыл бұрын
Very cool video, I was in high school when this thing came out!
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Thanks, hope it brings back some good memories :)
@OldDirtGuy
@OldDirtGuy Жыл бұрын
My XR650R supermoto has the supermoto race kit suspension from Cannondale. Nice Ohlins stuff.
@stiki108
@stiki108 7 ай бұрын
It was at the level of a prototype with all of its reliability and powerband issues. With time the engine issues could've been solved, the ECU technology could'Ve been solved. But the bad structure of the air filters, the starter and the weight would've stayed a negative feature. As a newcomer in the market they had two bigger options: build a "conservative" bike with the well known (and well working) structures of the actual bikes - or build a bike with whatever they're able to build in and count on the hype which can carry the negative side of the model to survive and have enough money for the further development. Which is always very risky. Especially in a few years without any experience with motorbikes. Therefore every step of the bike was more expensive than expected, they had to develop everything from the ground. It was too much for their engineering capability at that time.
@twowheelsdown2002
@twowheelsdown2002 Жыл бұрын
Not even close to the worst! I had a 1981 CR450 that had a 4 speed transmission. First gear was like 3rd on a bike that had a powerband like a 125. If you took it off-road it stalled easily, and it had a left side kick start that required you to dismount to start it. Combine all this with bad suspension and you have a turd! I had gone to the shop to buy a KDX-200 for my first real dirt bike and my “friends” talked me into this POS. I rode it 6 times and sold it to buy the KDX. Thankfully I bought it on a leftover close out and didn’t lose much.
@iainchesterman5474
@iainchesterman5474 Жыл бұрын
Great video max , really interesting 💪🏻
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Thanks Iain, Glad you enjoyed it
@iainchesterman5474
@iainchesterman5474 Жыл бұрын
@@999lazer i can remember reading about them in dirt bike rider magazine, and wow that was 22 years ago 😳
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 Жыл бұрын
The only thing I can see thats a design fault is the airbox mess. Possibly electric start was added weight and complexity for nothing too. In those days carbs were far better than FI systems aswell but everything else looks like a brilliant idea that just needed more time and work to finish. That airbox/exhaust combo must heavily restrict power and indeed if this made similar power to the YZ, KTM or even CRF from back in those days - reliably - then it may have done very well. Most of the ideas are great.
@Heavywall70
@Heavywall70 Жыл бұрын
It’s weird that the Cannondale cannibal atv was actually a beast on track I had one until recently and I could run with any Japanese motocross quad, or cross country and desert racing.
@insanetaco98
@insanetaco98 Жыл бұрын
I've heard the suspension geometry made them feel kinda awkward. Then again I race a YFZ so I've got a fairly well handling machine lol
@mattsmith1137
@mattsmith1137 10 ай бұрын
I used to work for the company who manufactured the OEM plastic for those bikes. The infamous title of worst ever is news to me.
@dirtboy896
@dirtboy896 Жыл бұрын
Never have heard a number plate called a “number board”
@kingdong311
@kingdong311 Жыл бұрын
I remember all summer long in 2001. Every pro race it entered in the outdoor Nationals, the bike kept melted down. I don't think it ever finished a 30 minute moto.
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
That's what i've heard as well. I believe Keith Johnson rode for Cannondale that year, i think he's going to be at an event i'm at next month...i'll ask him for some behind the scenes info!
@minifireant2232
@minifireant2232 11 ай бұрын
Uncle Owned an Enduro Model. I rode it for a long time. The seat was super hard, and the suspension needed work, but the bike was awesome....... in Arizona. The minute it got up to high altitude in Utah, it refused to work. There were a lot of problems with the EFI, and it was a coincidence that the company that has all the parts for the bike is ATK in Utah. I believe I still have the spare front fender for the bike.
@nillocyor2747
@nillocyor2747 Жыл бұрын
Great video bro.
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Thanks Buddy
@yami4g63
@yami4g63 Жыл бұрын
I know my 01 YZ426 is a beast! Love it!
@sburns2421
@sburns2421 Жыл бұрын
I always thought making one into a supermoto would be a good use for the bike. ATK fixed several of the issues with the bike, I have never seen one though.
@Kyle-fu6en
@Kyle-fu6en Жыл бұрын
I know where one is
@jwhittington188
@jwhittington188 Жыл бұрын
Atk didn’t fix anything they tried to take credit for fixes already known. They also went cheap on the fixes they raved about many that had to be redone
@dnafpv
@dnafpv 11 ай бұрын
@@Kyle-fu6enwhere and how much?
@steveblottenberger1097
@steveblottenberger1097 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work you need a lot more credit Steve from Annapolis MD
@cornellkirk8946
@cornellkirk8946 Жыл бұрын
Them cannondale mx400 I was in love with! I remember seeing them in the magazines when I was 14 years old! I used to dream about having one of them
@southernpovertycallcentere8373
@southernpovertycallcentere8373 Жыл бұрын
I hated the yz400 when it came out. Getting stuck behind a slower rider was hell because they'd walk all over a 125 on the straights. The only way around was to consistently gain a lot of time in corners which was really difficult on a dry track.
@davidmorris7490
@davidmorris7490 Жыл бұрын
Hi max she doesn't sound to bad for a 4 banger I have a yz400 project and 98 John dowd replica yz250 2 smoker and 89 kx125 and I'm an above right knee amputee but I'm still addicted to 2 strokers at age41 but your only as old as u feel fair play great video 💯 respect Dave
@davidmorris7490
@davidmorris7490 Жыл бұрын
Been a long time watcher and subscriber 🏁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿keep it up mate 😎
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Thanks David, sounds like you have a cool collection of bikes :)
@davidmorris7490
@davidmorris7490 Жыл бұрын
@@999lazer Same as u mate they all are we're and still are my seedy love affair wiv two strokes thanks for your reply keep up the the mint content Dave stay safe 💯🤙🏻🫡🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿😎
@popebryanii7224
@popebryanii7224 11 ай бұрын
I've owned a few cannondale 440 quads in the past. They're fantastic if you do some much needed modernizing like shocks and other fuel system mods. Cannondale changed the industry with the stuff that was standard on their stuff. But it was all very early and very high maintenance for the time.
@listenupfools731
@listenupfools731 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2003 440 x,cannondale..it ran great,but that bike was a serious pain to work on.6mm bolts everywhere
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
It definitely wasn't built with a home mechanic in mind.... or any mechanic for that matter lol
@stiksandstones
@stiksandstones Жыл бұрын
Well done vid mate.
@999lazer
@999lazer Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@ajveeden8595
@ajveeden8595 10 ай бұрын
Yo! you left out the most important factor. PDS suspension cannot be successful on a MX track…that in itself will make an awesome interesting video and article
@colebaldwin3532
@colebaldwin3532 Жыл бұрын
I raced desert on a new 2002 ex 440 in 2004. It was an awesome bike. It had its quirks but was allaround pretty badass.
@26tbucket
@26tbucket Жыл бұрын
The ATVs had a problem with splitting in half. I couldn't believe how well it handled, but the dude that had it at the dunes split his engine, went to the dealer and got a loaner, came back and one run up the hill and that motor blew in half too. That was a bad sound.
@spasmolytic2
@spasmolytic2 Жыл бұрын
instantly i can name several in the 70’s that were worse than that!
@GettingthruLife
@GettingthruLife Жыл бұрын
I was in college and finishing up my masters degree in texas at the time. I wrote up a resume and cover letter and applied to work in their new motorcycle division. Never got the opportunity. Loved their mountainbikes. A big mb time for me and had been an avid motocross rider and racer 15 years. Was blown away by Cannondale's attempt at the time.
@Muscleupsanddangles
@Muscleupsanddangles Жыл бұрын
That era was my heyday. My buddy bought one. I never had a chance to ride it. I was always a 2 stroke guy. He didn't keep it long and didn't exactly rave about it when he had it.
@nomdeguerre13
@nomdeguerre13 Жыл бұрын
I loved my 440....this bike looks lovely. Did his have the steering head brace at the bottom? That was a recall at some point...
@DerekFoulk
@DerekFoulk Жыл бұрын
The YZ426 stalled on me constantly. I got to ride my buddy's quite a bit and I really didn't like it. Granted, it was my first time on a bigger four stroke (I raced a 250 back then). It died coming into corners at least once per ride on me. I'm sure a faster rider probably had less of an issue and it could've had some clutch issues (who knows), but it did not like me. It put me off 450s entirely, but I ended up liking those.
@dinglesdingler1211
@dinglesdingler1211 Жыл бұрын
I rode one of these...RRP Cycle Stuff had one and Rossini was thinking of getting into dealing them. Rode it at Jack Frost when I was like 16..I remember it being awesome! Grey plastics on the one I tested...
@CaptHollister
@CaptHollister Жыл бұрын
It takes a special kind of hubris to believe that you can bring in a bunch of people from outside an industry and instantly do better than the people with decades of experience in that industry.
@samuelefumagalli1420
@samuelefumagalli1420 11 ай бұрын
Waiting for a video like this on VOR motorbikes
@Brad772006
@Brad772006 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic video!
@999lazer
@999lazer 11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
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