RIMS: the story of why I still ride both aluminum and carbon

[@stevengien5409]

This format is a great addition to your usual videos

[@ethanbenton6676]

Agreed

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks Steven!!!

[@sepg5084]

@@JeffKendallWeed Carbon fiber is not inherently aerodynamic over aluminium. It's just lighter. A deep aero wheel made of carbon fiber is lighter than an aluminium counterpart. So at the end of the day, it is the weight. If carbon fiber was heavier than an equivalent aluminium part, no one will use it.

[@nomadtrails]

Dude. Is this the format of all your videos? Sick riding, informative and entertaining gear chat. Zero fronting. No trickery with sponsors, and no clickbait on the title? Subbed!

[@helldogmtb5930]

Awesome story. As someone who only got into MTB 5 years ago (and hadn't been on a bike for probably 13 years before that) it's interesting hearing about the development of components from someone who lived it. I've recently been collecting videos/pictures/articles about the history of the sport. It seems like they'll be indispensable in the future.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks man!

[@grubbjt]

Love the format. Learning something while watching you effortlessly do what most can't!

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Hahaha effortlessly? I wish lol! Thanks Jason!

[@grubbjt]

@@JeffKendallWeed I'm sure the effort is real even though you make it _look_ easy. I should have said skillfully 🙂

[@TrailbaggingCascadia]

Good format and pacing. Looking forward to more of these!

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks elly!

[@frohrers281]

Format is awesome , Jeff has more fun on a bike then anyone on KZbin.... best videos

[@toddpepling]

Shame Maurice and Elaine had to shut it down. I remember buying my first issue at Mt. Snow in '92 ... maybe issue #1, but definitely when it was still a quarterly rag.

[@paulfraley7990]

@@toddpepling , I went to Mt Snow in summer of ‘92 with a GT karokaram and two buddies (with a Haro and Fuji) rode the chair lift. I don’t know who Maurice and Elaine are, but riding those 26ers in ‘92 down Mt Snow is something I’ll always remember :-)

[@ShidanTowfiq]

Oh man, I'm history! That's me on the bike mag cover from February 1988. Great video format and I agree that the equipment has come a long way in 25 years!

[@MrCayer12]

Great timing! Just ordered a set of We are one carbon wheels with hydra hubs for my 2021 Altitude an hour ago. Love the format, keep up the good work 👌🏼

[@michaeltheodorakis9473]

Got a set on my 2021 Altitude. You’ll love them👍

[@dance4effect]

I don't know much about format but I sure like your photography . Your voice is easy to listen to and I certainly value your opinions. I will not be charging like you but still, I need to make decisions about carbon wheels hubs etc. I'm looking for a food bike now and very concerned about maintenance issues with suspension especially. It would help to have info about all that. Kinna tough for me because I want to bike pack with a trail / all mtn bike. Thank you Jeff.

[@j.l.5966]

Dude! Love the format, felt like a video version of an awesome Dirt Rag magazine special edition article 🤙🏽

[@channingvenegas9984]

Dude... you're so good at rambling on!!!!! Like seriously could tell stories for days!!! Lol

[@rahcarter1659]

Your Mojo HD3 videos influenced my purchase of a neon green HD3 in 2015! That bike got be excited about MTB again. Thank you.

[@szed3]

Same. Couldn't afford an Ibis at the time but I find myself looking for a neon green frame from time to time.

[@Krieger1883]

Super nice format with the additional background information. Thanks for the work you put in! Have a great day!

[@colequigley9859]

I properly enjoyed this video. Thanks Jeff!

[@mattspen]

Jeff I loved all the throw back elements of this video! Great format

[@quentindfr]

Really like the story format along with the history of bike technology improvement, it is very informative and interesting ! Cheers mate !

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks Quentin!

[@smeegain3657]

Very insightful, thank you Jeff! I was doubtful about carbon rims on mountain bikes for quite a while, but now that I have been running them on my Hardtail and my Fullsusser for some time I really appreciate them!

[@sktfourlif]

Liking the story telling format Jeff!

[@dannytaylor6861]

cheers for the intel as i'm still learning whats best for my bike

[@liwx]

i wonder whats your honest opinion in stem length and whats your fav stem length. cheers

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Hey man thanks for the note! I use whatever length I need to in order to get a bike to feel right. Example, my Yeti SB130LR has a 50mm. My Evil Offering has a 40mm.

[@tysonrogers8898]

Totally support your story telling. Love the journey and how you learned things along the way!

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thank you Tyson!!!

[@paulhusby8344]

Practicing Acceptance. "Bike handling skills envy". :) Thanks for all the great content, ongoing.

[@noonedidthistome]

I still have that Trek Y frame (Y-11, shipped before the coil shock was available, so shipped with the air shock) that I bought in college in the 90's. I'd like to replace it some day, but two kids in private school...

[@NDemanuele1]

Awesome video! I really like the History summation of Carbon wheels! On my Ripley I had Carbon 928s and really liked them, had no issues. My Ripmo came with Alloy 938s and been riding on them for about a year now - they feel great to me so far. "If it ain't broke......".......I'll see how they hold up before I decide which way to go next. It seems like currently Alloy is starting to catch up to the stiffness, quality, of Carbon.

[@timothyaiken9752]

Thankyou I'm putting together myself a ride your videos have been very helpful Thankyou Tim

[@nickzarnetske9994]

Good video, great format, awesome information!

[@thomasvmanning]

Dig the format. You're humble but obviously experiences and I value what you have to say.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks so much Thomas!!!

[@ignacioaraujo2]

As a 39 year old who had mountain biking on and off since I was 15, I loved the description of the evolution of wheels

[@jimmyburchmtb7668]

Would love to see more of this for sure!

[@SMD28101]

Great format and delivery. A lot of great information, given clearly and straight to the point. Keep this style and I will always watch. Btw....I love Jenson!!!!

[@ericpeysar2593]

Something a little different - I like it. I kinda feel im gravitating towards bike videos that arent just another “shred the gnar” or “every product is new and more awesome than last year”. I also feel like i learned a little history, a little about the use case for carbon rims and a nice reminder that keeping an open mind often gets the best results. My next purchase goal will be a nice set of wheels, not carbon wheels, not aluminum wheels but nice set of wheels that are relevant to my riding. Jeff your stuff just gets better every year.

[@hldedrick]

Oh I think I spotted the black ed rip too... Nostalgia settling in!

[@JeffKendallWeed]

YES! That's the one! You still got it?

[@hldedrick]

@@JeffKendallWeed No but want it back! It's still going strong!

[@joshmarks3954]

Just got back from my first ride on my Ripmo af. Fox factory build, felt amazing very happy dude right here👍

[@jorgenhamann3479]

This was great! Nice pros/cons list with a little history. I didn't know the bit about carbon being able to have tighter mfg tolerances which eliminates the need for the bead, so that was neat to learn too.

[@rctayas]

Great story telling...love the way u ride...I’m only riding for 3 years now and just hit 57 so I’m not going to even try 10%of what u do on a bike,but,love to watch u ride.

[@Davis2you]

I do like this format, the information and backstory is fun to hear. Also it’s different than what other you tubers have been doing

[@andrewnordell5332]

Congrats on 50k! Love your videos!

[@toddpepling]

Really lIke the format, but even more really appreciate the history. I raced from '86 to '04, heavily into MTB tech (was 2nd in charge at RIngle before Sun bought them). Then essentially I just rode for fun for a few years, then quit riding completely (kids, family, job). Got back into riding in 2017 (health), new bike. Never issues w/ my aluminum rims, didn't know why ... nor why mag editors loved carbon rims so much. Now I get it. So when are the aluminum/carbon/titanium/steel frame and bars vids coming? Pedals (flats, clips, clipless, and back to flats)? Geo (especially w/ respect to stem length, bar width)? Forks and dropper evo? I'd watch your whole MTB evo series. You have a unique P.O.V. and good story-telling style. Looking forward to it.

[@ericrice9807]

This was great! Loved the format!

[@walterbrown6388]

Nice one. I love hearing about what/why you're running and especially love hearing about how it compares to the "old days"

[@petercroce]

Digging the story telling style! Cheers Jeff.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks Pete!

[@chrisoliveira2038]

Love the wheel history. Price has kept me in the aluminum camp, but my son's Enve's on his Turner have held up great and keep the weight of his full squish at the exact same weight as my steel monster cross / gravel bike.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks Chris!

[@olid3874]

After 2 years riding my Ibis 933 alloy stock wheels, and a few broken alloy nipples, I just went 2wks ago the carbon rims/wheel way with the exact same hope (better durability, less service), so glad to see that story!! In fact, this helped to overcome the "Oh S**t "moment realizing how much i've spent; Cheers

[@olid3874]

Correction: my wheels are 938

[@EnriqueHernandez-yv7oq]

Nicely done, very interesting ,I ride on aluminum, and carb, but never jumped. except one time I hit my brakes and flipped in the air and landed on my feet and both my hands still holding the handle bars and gently placed the bike down checked out the bike the derailer bent , don't know how I didn't get hurt.

[@roddas26]

Thank you Jeff, this was a very informative and entertaining watch.

[@gbessette40]

Such a rad and capable rider bringing the bike tech geek... So good!

[@RyanRidesPGH]

Cool history lesson. I splurged last month and now have a set of I9 carbon wheels for my 29er on order. 👍

[@JeffKendallWeed]

NICE Ryan!!!

[@JesusRescuesUs3-16]

Great review! And great video.

[@ChristianJohnsons]

Great format! Thanks for sharing!

[@MellowYellowCJ7]

I really liked this video and the format. One more advantage of Carbon....No more spoke holes. It makes the build a little slower for me, but I love the clean, no tape tubeless setup. Funny, the only aluminum wheel I keep is the front on my road bike for the mountain ROAD group rides. I kept a 35mm aluminum front for smoother better braking in a group on the loooong descents.

[@mann_idonotreadreplies]

cool story bro

[@dannyrie1]

Which would you pick if you had to pick [alloy frame + carbon rims] or [carbon frame + alloy rims] taking into consideration only: handling ability leaned over, high speed stability, handling in the rough.

[@andrewjackson4016]

Love your insights and vids, especially the how to's. Keep it up and thanks.

[@shawn-paulluchin603]

I liked it! Good examples... My carbon wheels stayed on the bike since I bought them. The original alloy wheels stay in the bike barn.

[@deisen123]

Great perspective on this topic. Definitely interesting to listen to.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks Dan!

[@brianrand7191]

Great video Jeff!

[@elidenning6276]

This video style is amazing.

[@Yhigma]

Awesome, thanks for sharing JKW!! Maybe one of these days we could even a see a video on riding both flats and clipless pedals?!! haha

[@larsmartinlvdal6119]

Very good video! Informative and interesting. Well told. Perfect pace. Doing great JKW!

[@milktop1]

Great video!!! Love the format

[@JulieB857]

Love the history lesson and honest feedback

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks Julie! I just try to treat all the brands with respect, luckily not too much blow back yet!

[@rustymac83]

Liked this video format, it would be interesting to hear your take on the two differing design thoughts for carbon wheels and how they perform. Those being traditional construction rims with a deeper 2 sectioned rim (spoke eyelets separate from bead seat) like Enve, Santa Cruz, Industry 9, Light Bicycle etc etc etc and those that have gone the more Moto route like Crank Brothers Synthesis & Zip Moto.

[@bigslacker666]

Also grew up riding BMX bikes and MTB since the 90's and seen the evolution. I've got carbon rims on my Offering and AL ibis S35s on my Following currently. With the weight gap closed there really isn't a whole ton of difference for most riders. I think I slightly prefer AL but it's nice to have both.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

totally cool to have good options in both! I don't mind the AL at all, if that's all I had, I'd still be quite content!

[@kentlevan5623]

This format is awesome! I’m actually learning

[@mtbcyclist]

Great content and format. I had not idea the carbon rims did not have a hook.

[@tarikmoore849]

Great video from my favorite rider to watch ride. Well done 👍

[@thomasgamboa6780]

Muy tuanis! Keep it going, love the story telling format! 🇨🇷

[@raganmena2139]

Enjoyed the video, very informative.

[@totalchaos80]

Your knowledge is very insightful. I can't tell the difference between much of anything, other than I do feel faster on 29 than 27.5. I ride Carbon frame on carbon wheels, and it doesn't feel different than aluminum on aluminum to me.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks Chaos!!!

[@raystrax]

Hey Jeff! Thanks for the shout out about my revolutionary design for mountain carbon rims back in 2013 called Derby Rims, the most durable mountain carbon rims by far at the time, and continually improved by experience to always lead in highest performance and durability! Check out the newest "Sol Rider" line utilizing CFRP aerospace engineering.

[@stevencole7331]

Or those poly made spokes from berd wheels look really interesting . Most of it is out of my desired price range for the benefit I would get .

[@jedidiahwest4619]

Running i9 carbon rims on my Ripmo! Truthfully this is my first ever bike so I wouldn’t really know the difference but I have rented the aluminum 27.5 Santa Cruz Bronson and I absolutely loved riding that bike. Wasn’t sure if it was the wheel size or the aluminum but it was very playful. I did notice a slight difference when squashing a turn. It didn’t feel stiff like my Ripmo.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Right on Jedidiah!

[@11leonidas11]

Loved it dude. Did some chores while listening to you from my pocket.

[@rrolleman4879]

Is that Ryan Leech at 5:15?

[@JJMilk]

Like the new format, and specially like the way you choose your equipment based on intended use and requirements instead of hype and latest greatness have to have factor. Ps: loved your “burly” build of the Ripley AF a few videos ago - totally made me rethink what is possible on a shorter travel bike! 🤩😎

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks Joao! I prefer the Ripmo over the Ripley, but the burly build helps the Ripley be better for my riding style.

[@JJMilk]

@@JeffKendallWeed For you, totally, but for my trails in and around Pretoria - South Africa, the Ripley is the more suited / realistic option.

[@Aceton_]

I have had lots of troubles with alloy wheels bending etc although I am still on alloy because I don't have the money right now to spend on carbon wheels aswell as my alloy wheels being still straight I am looking forward to get carbon wheels because of their lower maintenance but also the warranty that comes with them.

[@Jacob99174]

Very well done video!

[@ansparaco]

Neat, I just had a set of derby carbon rims built for my dj.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Nicely done!

[@junzamo]

Great video information for MTB Jeff I still have aluminum wheels in my bike

[@tejas.darwin]

Great content as usual. Safe riding, Jeff.

[@dereksmith7965]

Great video!!!

[@treyblakeandrew]

I remember watching that Kitsbow edit when it came out. I think it’s the reason I learned how to nose manny

[@offroadrepairman]

I’m a large man at 6’3 and 225#. The modern carbon enduro/dh rims have been game changer for me. I rarely have to true a wheel, only check spoke tension when changing worn out tires. The bike feels predictable and accurate compared to alloys rims.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Right on man!

[@rodspov1915]

Great Video! Loved it.

[@scottaw]

Love the perspective on how MTB technology has evolved. I also ride both aluminum and carbon rims, DT Swiss and Rovals respectively. As a heavier rider, I find the carbon rims are definitely stiffer as you pointed out, and the stiffness projects/rebounds off the rocks better and subsequently can feel faster. Most notable though is they remain true all season long.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks Scott!

[@markmoreno7295]

Do you think those aluminum rims would work with Rene Herse tires in the Fleecer Ridge size?

[@hardmtnbiker]

Great historical to current opinion review on carbon. While I agree with most I have found my 27.5 x 2.8 to 3” tires profile really nicely with i40 to i50mm rims. As for 29er. I like the i30 for the 2.25 to 2.5” tires and i35 to i40mm rims really make a great profile with the popular 2.6” tire and up. I have a couple 2.8” and 3” tires for my rigid SS bike. I run Rimpact or CushCore to prevent damage to my alloy rims and the whole pinch flat protection and compression dampen thing. My friend have various carbon rims either hookless design or that non bead hook design. I definitely see your point on the flat protection but I know that they burp air out of their tires at lower pressures. I also know they don’t have the supple feel of an allow rim wheel set that’s planned ,customized and laced and built for a riders weight and style. Just my thoughts.

[@enduroathlete2956]

Always like a good history lesson!!

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Right on Athlete!

[@wesleywermuth9545]

Sweet video!

[@corymcmanues7905]

Love the story type be vid, and I gotta say I haven't heard the carbon to alloy broken down on a level like this, very nice. LoL, can't say I'm gonna try them because carbon hoops are so much more than alloy.

[@bwkuntzz]

Awesome summary. Did not know about the bead technology. Guess I’ll have to live with my recent decision to stay with aluminum until I destroy this set of wheels.

[@sixate]

10 years ago I said I'd never ride carbon components, especially wheels. I'm a big strong guy, 6'8" and weigh 245 lbs. Played a lot of basketball and took up mountain biking 20 years ago. I've always wrecked wheels and was scared of the thought of carbon wheels. But now I think the technoligy has improved and bit the bullet and got cabon wheels for my mtb a couple months ago. It was eye opening for me. The stiffness is something I've never experienced on a high end aluminum rim. The steering is more precise and so far no issues. And I've smashed through a few rock gardens way harder than normal to test them out. Even hit a few jumps I've been avoiding because my old wheels couldn't handle it at my size. Wheels are perfectly true, no issues with spokes and only 28 per wheel. And the zippiness with the lighter weight is a plus too.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks for the great note! Carbon has sure come a long ways!

[@asaflevkovitz5250]

Great vid, thanks!

[@gregcavanaugh6259]

Great job analyzing and describing your needs and journey as a rider. I still hate heavy wheels, but that's more a product of over a decade of XC/Marathon racing. If you're just out riding to have fun, and fitness/speed aren't really what "determines that" (ie. KOMs etc) then weight should be a lower priority.

[@LuisGonzalez-nx2pn]

Just exactly what I needed to hear since I'm about to buy a set of carbon wheels for my bike; if the government send you money, what's better than to upgrade your bike, isn't? 🤘😎

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Hahaha good call Luis!

[@LuisGonzalez-nx2pn]

@@JeffKendallWeed Hey, could you make a video explaining the reason/science behind the front specific/rear specific tire-wheel combination, why is better to ride a wider tires/lighter wheel in the front and better rolling resistant skinnier tires/heavier wheel in the back? I know Crank Brother Synthesis uses a 28 spoke front / 32 spoke wheels, NOBL uses a wider internal width in the front and narrow in the rear, just to mention a few... Don't know, maybe you already did the video, just a thought. 🤘😎

[@bananasstuff3344]

@@LuisGonzalez-nx2pn different uses. The front needs the grip, and doesnt need to be as strong, the rear needs to follow and be strong for when [the user] inevitably smacks it on something. You don't need the grip from the rear of the bike nearly as much.

[@Intentsrig]

Nice. I just picked up a set of i9 Enduro S 1/1’s! Just couldn’t justify the carbon price for a small weight savings and a perhaps a small stiffness gain I probably wouldn’t feel lol.

[@troycarpenter3675]

Best aluminum set up for 6'7" 240 +, riding a guerrilla smash all rounder?

[@invisibleazn9330]

have you ever rode with 1 aluminum wheel and 1 carbon wheel. For example carbon in the rear aluminum in the front or visa versa?

[@johnsonjay60]

I'm sure someone has lol

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Totally!! The ripmo AF in the unboxing first ride vid was set up like that!

[@NoBrakes23]

Doesn't Easton still make mtb parts under the RaceFace name? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the relationship between those companies. Regardless, I appreciated the history and perspective in this video. Have you given any thought to alternate materials for spokes? (I recognize that using i9's aluminum spokes is already a bit outside the traditional stainless steel of DT, Sapim, etc) I'm seriously considering Berd spokes for my next wheelset.

[@taffycymroukmtb9073]

Great stuff Jeff 🚴😉👌🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿👌

[@toddtucker4602]

Great one!