RING Siren Design Issues both Siren and Adaptor

In this short video, I describe how badly designed the RING siren is with the optional adapter they promote will work with it. The adaptor comes with two connectors that won't fit through the water proof grommet and would require tampering with, thus voiding your warranty. Other issues about the powering of the siren are explained in the video

[@guthriewernham7401]

Just installed my one. My distance between the power adaptor is two far the power socket. I also found that it was polarity sensitive. I guess I should have checked with my multimeter. However, it does not seem to do any harm to the unit if you connect then in reverse. I did buy a rechargeable battery so I had assumed that it would trickle charge the battery and that it would be only be used during powercuts. I can't believe I went through all the hassle to route a cable to the siren, for the unit not to use it for all power requirements. Biggest design flaw is the door secured by three screws. The door should have a strap on it so it can hang in place when you are up a ladder changing batteries. The three screws should be captive screws, so they can't be lost. I hope Amazon/RIng review these comments.

[@DM43685]

NB: The power adaptor does have positive polarity, meaning it will only work one way, NOT neutral as I was told by RING.... it appears one is positive and the other is negative!

[@desmondmcintosh8204]

I've installed many ring products and have found the build quality and design very good. HOWEVER, I do agree with you they need to go back to the drawing board with the siren and I found that rubber gasket most annoying as it came off and you need 2 pairs of hands to put back in place.

[@DM43685]

Agree… the rubber gasket was really annoying 👍

[@codywhitman8302]

I didn’t have any of these issues. Mine has been up for over a year. I have a rechargeable battery pack. It’s hardwired to power (the wires for the adapter fit through just fine one at a time) with the original batteries in it. It works as it should., I have never had to recharge the battery pack. It stays charged plugged in. The Ring logo light comes on every night. 🤷‍♂️

[@mstar011]

So your saying you have every powersource going? No wonder your light is going on lol

[@codywhitman8302]

@@mstar011 Correct. I have it installed the way ring suggests it should be installed.

[@mstar011]

@@codywhitman8302 I don't think they ask customers to put, normal batteries, rechargeable batteries AND put it on hardwire. Its a bit overkill just to get the dusk to dawn feature to work??

[@codywhitman8302]

@@mstar011 why don’t you take a gander at the installation instructions. Since your the expert.. What are the point of your comments. Are you trying to make someone or yourself look stupid or are you trying to make yourself feel big? Or you just a keyboard warrior? Do you even have a ring alarm system?

[@codywhitman8302]

@@mstar011 oh, it comes with the batteries. Maybe is you purchased one you’d have a better understanding on how it works. 😉

[@Sidicas]

1:55 I think you got it wrong there. The app specifically says under the "Outdoor Siren LED Settings" that "Requires Quick Release Battery Pack OR hardwired power source" So it should light up with just the hardwire. It is only with the D batteries alone that it does not light up.

[@DM43685]

Not on the instructions it doesn’t, and I’ve tested it, you have to have both, again poor design by Ring

[@SabeTheApple]

You don't need both. I'm using the d cell batteries and the power pack. Mine illuminates at night driven by the power pack. Tbf don't see it lasting too long as it illuminates all night. But I guess if I didn't have it illuminating then it would last longer. I'll try the hardwire option soon ​@@DM43685

[@Rob_Ahern]

Hi all. I have just purchased a ring alarm with an outdoor siren. I've hardwired the outdoor siren with the second gen power supply and it powers the siren AND the dusk to dawn light. FURTHERMORE if I add a quick release battery, the second gen power supply also charges it. FURTHER AGAIN, the quick release battery on its own will power the siren and dusk to dawn light. This is all despite the Ring website and app siren setup still stating you need 2 power sources for the dusk to dawn. Looks like Ring has quietly fixed all the issues with the outdoor siren.

[@ManKeiLai]

My question is if I just use the D batteries and Quick Release Battery Pack with solar panel, is it possible to activate the Dusk to Dawn feature for long time in UK?

[@desmondmcintosh8204]

Correct me if I'm wrong anyone. But the doorbells require ( if the need be) AC power , whereas the siren requires DC power

[@DM43685]

From what I know the doorbell works from mains Power however, I believe you have to reduce the voltage using some form of regulator otherwise you’re putting 240 or 120 if it’s in the US through it which might break it but don’t quote me on that. Siren works off a DC adapter which powers it, again that could be regulated… I made this video some years back, but I’m hoping Ring have watched it and made design changes.

[@BrandonTonner]

Installed 2 of these Friday and there both not working! What are the chances I’ve got positive and negative the wrong way around on both! Awful from ring not to identify conductors on both ends 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@DM43685]

I know, ring products, not great I’m afraid!!

[@andmondson8260]

Best way is to have all 3 supplies in but instead of a PV panel, buy a pv panel and cut the panel off and use the cable going into a wago then other side get a 5v1a power supply and cut the DC barrell off and match the pos and neg in the wago then you have a hardwired charging supply to the rechargeable battery instead of an ugly and unreliable pv panel.

[@pc3983]

Is it best to set this up and test in the house before going up a ladder , I’m fitting mine soon any advice will help

[@DM43685]

Yep, defo 👍

[@durfelx3890]

could you not just plug in a mains : 5v dc power supply into the solar panel socket together with a rechargeable battery?

[@johngore8443]

You also not also loop the mains cable to the solar charging connector which will in turn change the battery as well

[@DM43685]

That sounds great, but is clearly not in the instructions to perform..or recommended i guess by Ring? I can smell a warrenty breach...

[@johngore8443]

@@DM43685 but it will resolve your issue for the long term, whats £65 quire compared to having to keep going up a ladder to change the battery or as people get older you have pay someone to do it, £65 quid and a bit hacking the wiring is tiny in comparison, I think anyway and that my plan as soon as I get one

[@Rob_Ahern]

​@@DM43685 Why not just plug a Ring 5V barrel plug into the siren? Why does the 5V trickle charge to the quick release battery have to come from a solar panel? Why not just the standard 5V plug ring sell?

[@gpu73]

Obviously they have not done it properly so they can sell more as a new feature. Its American strategy

[@thevlad409]

If it didn't regular draw some power from the D batteries they probably would begin to leak after a while. But the whole not tricklecharging the rechargeable battery is just stupid..

[@MrBigdaz107]

hi folks , struggling to purchase a siren power adaptor in the uk . can somebody please point me in the right direction or suggest a alternative ? thanks in advance

[@arshadvohora]

Just search for any 12v (min 1A) power supply. Most will usually come with a round pin adapter but you can cut it off and just use the two cables to connect to siren terminals. Edit: Ring officially uses 24V 0.5A power adaptor. But you can get any as long as its 9-28VDC (minimum 12W) power supply.

[@davidmuil3282]

Hi folks looking for help on these Sirens- there is no app available in NA to use this outdoor ring siren- is there away to hard wire this direct to the main Ring station? trying to find away to hook this up for out door use

[@Sidicas]

I'm in NA and I see it in the app. I am getting mine in a couple of days.

[@alltimegoldengreats]

I had to take a picture of the both wires together on my phone and then zoom in then you can see a ridge going down one side of the wire that’s your negative wire you might have take a couple of pictures to get the right one . Then you should see the ridge . What a absolute nonsense it also states in the manual about looking for the ridge if no joy get a magnifying glass . Ring this pathetic

[@DM43685]

I agree , what idiot puts a ridge??? They must have children working at Ring R&D 😒 Ring if you read this COLOURS!!!! 🙏 please

[@Sidicas]

@@DM43685 Ridge vs. colors. We should put you in a boxing match with the color blind people and fight it out until the end.

[@DM43685]

@@Sidicas Or… here’s a stupid thought, maybe by chance Ring might design it with two separate colours indicating positive and negative…??? What you reckon? Or do you think the designer was blind when he designed this crappy thing?