RISC-V is trying to launch an open-hardware revolution | Upscaled

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@MoMo-ul6uk
@MoMo-ul6uk 4 жыл бұрын
This was a surprisingly balanced video on RISC V. You discussed the potential benefits and limitations of its development. It’s also good to know you’ve contacted the academics, who created the instruction set, and asked their opinion on the matter. Kudos to you guys 👏
@whereismycrewyo
@whereismycrewyo 4 жыл бұрын
So RISC-V is basically the Linux of chips. Neat 😀
@CattoRayTube
@CattoRayTube 4 жыл бұрын
That's a good analogy for explaining the proprietary add-ons, actually. There are non-free Linuxes with closed components out there, but that hasn't damaged the platform. It'd be nice if it was all open, but hey, capitalism's gotta ruin things somewhere haha
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 4 жыл бұрын
Free-market capitalism is one thing, protectionist mercantilism is quite another.
@hertzvador2220
@hertzvador2220 4 жыл бұрын
Making a chip is very expensive. No patch allowed post tape-out. 80% of the cost goes into verification, it is a painful process, whatever the architecture. More freedom->More variants-> higher cost
@xtremefps_
@xtremefps_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 free markets don't respect intellectual "property." Intellectual property is a mechanism for a false monopoly propagated to increase one's own wealth at the expense of entry to market to others, and ultimately, at the expense of the customer.
@SahilP2648
@SahilP2648 4 жыл бұрын
@@hertzvador2220 I was just seeing 2001 A space odyssey lol. What a coincidence.
@pandupujo3917
@pandupujo3917 4 жыл бұрын
This upscaled series is amazing. The amount of information is better than some college courses
@breadone_
@breadone_ 4 жыл бұрын
its great but a lot of it is surface knowledge, an actual school/college course would cover much much more depth than a 14 minute video can do
@spoonikle
@spoonikle 4 жыл бұрын
maybe one of those fake for profit collages that don’t have any actual staff and just hire a janitor to teach from a book they found in a used book store.
@mychemicaljojo
@mychemicaljojo 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree, such a great executive overview of what's going on!
@gameresearch9535
@gameresearch9535 4 жыл бұрын
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@kjr5034
@kjr5034 3 жыл бұрын
More like first lesson introduction into the topic
@carlocarnevali7790
@carlocarnevali7790 4 жыл бұрын
This RISC-V really needs to take off. I'm sick of monopoly.
@BlownMacTruck
@BlownMacTruck 4 жыл бұрын
Er what? There are plenty of ISAs out there.
@beezanteeum
@beezanteeum 4 жыл бұрын
I wish there's an open VLIW architecture (just like Itanium, but open source) I'm tired with CISC and RISC duopoly
@UNSCPILOT
@UNSCPILOT 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a later version of the Raspberry Pi running their own RISK 5 chip to make them that much more open source
@MKeehlify
@MKeehlify 4 жыл бұрын
I would also like RISC-V to just take off, but growing too quickly could cause many problems including creating another monopoly. Segmentation is something that should be avoided at all costs and open development should be pursued
@rfichokeofdestiny
@rfichokeofdestiny 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not really a monopoly at this point. But patent laws promote somewhat monopolistic behavior, by definition. Many believe they “promote scientific progress,” but what they really do is temporarily reduce competition.
@kurosua
@kurosua 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine managing a project of this complexity, while doing research, writing grants, mentoring grad students, and teaching undergrads.
@VictorYarema
@VictorYarema 3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine managing Linux Kernel development? This is something that already happens for decades, right?
@SyphistPrime
@SyphistPrime 4 жыл бұрын
Also the biggest thing about this is that there's no royalties to use some custom development environment. My friend programs in robotics, and it can cost thousands of dollars per person to get a license for the development environment.
@evannibbe9375
@evannibbe9375 3 жыл бұрын
@Christopher Grant Open source means free for everyone
@jemert96
@jemert96 3 жыл бұрын
@@evannibbe9375 free as in freedom yes. However, licenses for corporations are rarely given out for free (same as with Linux)
@NijikaAirConditioner
@NijikaAirConditioner 2 жыл бұрын
TOUHOU PFP
@aladdin8623
@aladdin8623 4 жыл бұрын
"Just don't expect your RISC-V PC to arrive anytime soon." Well actually some days ago the first RISC-V Mini ITX Mainboard went public. Hopefully RISC-V development will increase even much more and faster and better. Amin ya Rabb
@MMuraseofSandvich
@MMuraseofSandvich 4 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty big difference between a mini ITX board with the processor and a real functioning PC, there's also firmware and software to be written for the chip. I do want one, though, ngl.
@kelownatechkid
@kelownatechkid 4 жыл бұрын
@@MMuraseofSandvich RISC-V + PCI-E support = real excitement! this is gonna be a big year for risc-v no doubt
@GhostlyTeehee
@GhostlyTeehee 4 жыл бұрын
Inshallah !
@stbhcorporation7611
@stbhcorporation7611 4 жыл бұрын
Inshalllah Man!
@Giraf1964
@Giraf1964 4 жыл бұрын
@@MMuraseofSandvich Both firmware and Linux are out for Risc-v it seems. I still think Risc-V have some way to go, but it seems to go very fast.
@vejymonsta3006
@vejymonsta3006 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, Risc-V FPGAs are here. That means you can program an FPGA with open source tools as CPU with open source architecture. This is basically the final step towards a fully open source hardware design. No IP cores required.
@spguy7559
@spguy7559 3 жыл бұрын
man . man . can we build a CPU faster than usuall CPUs (ryzen , intell ) with FPGA ? by risc-v arch .
@noobslayer815
@noobslayer815 2 жыл бұрын
@@spguy7559 theoretically you could, but that’s not the point of open source, IMO RISC-V is great for embedded systems
@markerichannelly
@markerichannelly 4 жыл бұрын
Now that nVidia is buying ARM we need RISC-V to become the preeminent mobile µarch
@davidste60
@davidste60 4 жыл бұрын
*ISA
@zorintoto1167
@zorintoto1167 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know about that . Maybe low powers chips something on bar with cortex m chips . ARM actually made cortex m3 free in order to compete with risc v
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence 4 жыл бұрын
now that ARM are an American company, it would be hilarious if they banned ARM chip sales to the UK for breaking trade agreements!
@deoxal7947
@deoxal7947 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe, maybe not
@tiefensucht
@tiefensucht 4 жыл бұрын
@referral madness As soon as nVidia owns all the IP, the government in GB can do what it wants. The physical ARM headquarter in GB doesn't matter anymore at this time.
@MMuraseofSandvich
@MMuraseofSandvich 4 жыл бұрын
I've taken a course (two courses?) taught by Dr. Patterson. He's a fantastic teacher and really loves computing.
@MartijnterHaar
@MartijnterHaar 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. It's even more important for non-US countries now that the American company Nvidia bought ARM. Nvidia is great at engineering, but also very into expensive and restrictive IP licenses.
@holyravioli5795
@holyravioli5795 4 жыл бұрын
Most computing companies are into expensive and restrictive IP licenses....
@FengXingFengXing
@FengXingFengXing 4 жыл бұрын
Real problem is corrupt parliament/congress give this monopoly. Need change imaginary property monopoly become 5 year or less.
@chinweisong-zb5dg
@chinweisong-zb5dg 4 жыл бұрын
Nvidia is a taiwan company in america company skin.
@godslayer1415
@godslayer1415 3 жыл бұрын
Nvidia HAS NOT BOUGHT ARM. It is in talks to buy ARM - subject to regulators in China, US and EU. China and EU oppose the deal... Anyone can develop for CUDA.
@JxcksonSF
@JxcksonSF 3 жыл бұрын
@@chinweisong-zb5dg Nvidia aint Taiwanese. and even tho, TSMC is Taiwanese, but US almost maneged to block then to make business with Huawei
@StephenOrion
@StephenOrion 4 жыл бұрын
This dude, can make a whole new business out of his knowledge and speaking skills even without engadget. Bro, take the leap. You're very underrated. Linus didn't even know half as you when he started.
@stefanms8803
@stefanms8803 4 жыл бұрын
You're assuming he did all the research and video editing himself
@faustin289
@faustin289 3 жыл бұрын
Both this guy and Linus are doing YT videos on tech. What do you mean by taking the leap?
@tomwaller6893
@tomwaller6893 4 жыл бұрын
It is such a shame that Acorn and the UK computer lead of the late 80s is never credited for ARM or Acorn Risc Machine as it was when I was a Scottish Acorn dealer selling Risc PC's in the 90s.
@firefly618
@firefly618 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin just recommended me this video out of the blue and I'm amazed. The amount and quality of information and the clear exposition are top class. Thank you!
@chubbymoth5810
@chubbymoth5810 4 жыл бұрын
Good lecture on the topic. RISC-V will mainly prosper to prevent trade ban issues regarding IP. Companies have seen what happened to Huawei and will want to prevent that happening to them. Besides that, RISC-V is the cheapest possible solution, which in the long run is always a winner.
@danielberry4728
@danielberry4728 4 жыл бұрын
This series is great, hope it keeps up
@Settiis
@Settiis 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing, open source is exactly what is needed to make revolutionary jumps in different work fields.
@godslayer1415
@godslayer1415 3 жыл бұрын
and the best Open Source software has been taken private and OSS is not what it used to be - and RISC V is nothing more than a novelty
@fmagic2000able
@fmagic2000able 4 жыл бұрын
Correction @ 1:08: CISC stands for "Complex Instruction Set Computing" not "Comples Instruction Set Computing" - lol!
@crazydrifter13
@crazydrifter13 4 жыл бұрын
Haha
@chrominox
@chrominox 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, another solid episode. Great job Chris!
@justincredible5406
@justincredible5406 4 жыл бұрын
Chris is a treasure.
@meamzcs
@meamzcs 4 жыл бұрын
RISC-V is already used a lot in embedded systems where before all kinds of proprietary ISAs were used.
@Teslawaverunner
@Teslawaverunner 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation , best I have seen so far. Please do more on RISC-V. One of the things that gets missed is that the ISA just covers the CPU not the rest of the components on an SoC. Also the licensing allows a chip designer using the ISA to keep the chip design closed ( proprietary ). One fascinating use of the risc-V isa is in an FPGA package , extremely fast prototyping and even deployment (albeit expensive !). I think you could make many videos about risc-V , a mini series !!
@ajaymanoj3527
@ajaymanoj3527 4 жыл бұрын
Some people find these videos as useless and but for them who are thinking of starting something new business or innovative projects this video is helps a lot. Thank you for making this video. 👍
@pepeshopping
@pepeshopping 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing new. Give it 5 years and then we can talk.
@SherwinGarciaObregon
@SherwinGarciaObregon 4 жыл бұрын
All of the Upscaled videos I have seen so far have been really well made, well thought out, and researched. Really appreciate it.
@dread69420
@dread69420 4 жыл бұрын
Splendid video covering this topic as requested in the comment section in the Apple & ARM video before. Maybe a video about AMD as a company and the Xilinx acquisition next? FPGAs in general?
@godslayer1415
@godslayer1415 3 жыл бұрын
Had Nvidia been smart - and I posted this on a couple of sites a year or more ago - they would have bought AMD instead of ARM and would have also purchased Xilinx. This would allow them to compete with the accelerator stack at Intel - which has CPU,. GPU. FPGA and AI accelerators... Nvidia would pick up a viable CPU, Radeon Tech Grp & Nvidia would pool resources on GPUs - specifically for compute cards - and with Xilinx - yet another part of the puzzle.... the Google Tensor Processing Units are practically the industry standard for AI... and since Volta (including Turing and Ampere) Nvidia has had TPUs in it's designs. But idiot tech analysts started the Pump n Dump of AMD - the Dump hasn't happened YET - but it's coming - AMD is at most a $10B company - not a $100B company. Intel has the best CPUs, their Xe HP will destroy Nvidia in the data center and has the industry leading Altera FPGAs, and Habana for AI - Things are changing - especially with CXL coming this year.
@christophegroulx8187
@christophegroulx8187 3 жыл бұрын
@@godslayer1415 Nvidia couldn’t buy AMD even if they wanted to
@divyanshdabral
@divyanshdabral 3 жыл бұрын
@@godslayer1415 you clearly know nothing about anti-monopoly laws kid. Governments wont let companies take over their competitors like that. That situation would create monopolies. No government would allow nvidea to buy amd.
@DjebbZ
@DjebbZ 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video! I remember being one of the people suggesting it, it's awesome to just "order" a video and see it done by you! Love the channel. Peace!
@DanielRamiz
@DanielRamiz 4 жыл бұрын
this guys should have his own YT channel
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
I agree 💯 100%. Hopefully he does start one as a side hustle down the road. (:
@selohcin
@selohcin 4 жыл бұрын
LOL, he doesn't do everything himself. He needs the whole team! If it were just him, the videos wouldn't be as good.
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
@@selohcin Agreed! A team makes videos like these better.
@alvallac2171
@alvallac2171 4 жыл бұрын
*guy (singular) guys = plural
@TalmoTheSell
@TalmoTheSell 4 жыл бұрын
@@alvallac2171 Dude, stop being a grammar Nazi!
@kobby2g8
@kobby2g8 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a simple guy. I see upscaled video from Engadget, I click
@ianboard544
@ianboard544 4 жыл бұрын
I develop for ARM cortex chips at work. I no particular love for the instruction set, but for me, the value is in the interrupt controller, which is easy to use, the coresight logic for debug and trace and the development tools, which are pretty mature. I am curious how RISC-V stacks up in these areas - I confess I am a newcomer to it.
@ZAR556
@ZAR556 4 жыл бұрын
You know who else love RISC-V soo much that it kinda like Gold Rush moment?? Everyone Yep
@dahudie
@dahudie 4 жыл бұрын
Now that Nvidia has bought out ARM, we may see the adoption of RISC-V come about more quickly.
@godslayer1415
@godslayer1415 3 жыл бұрын
Nvidia has NOT bought ARM - it is in talks to buy ARM, subject to regulators in EU, US and China allowing the merger to occur. EU and China are vehemently opposed. And even if the merger goes ahead do you think that all the ARM employees are going to be fired and replaced with Nvidia employees? Most likely ARM will continue on as it does today - with ADDITIONAL IP being developed by Nvidia ARM to SUPPLEMENT - not replace what ARM currently creates. RISC V will NEVER be more than a novelty - ARM is like x86 - FAR too large of a existing codebase to switch because some fanboys think that something something Nvidia something something RISC V. Get a clue, kid.
3 жыл бұрын
@@godslayer1415 "kid" why so toxic?
@emmadelaroziere8933
@emmadelaroziere8933 3 жыл бұрын
Nice coincidence ! I have been working on a RISC-V architecture (Ariane) since october for a student contest. As an advocate of open source, I hope RISC-V works out in the end.
@joelhowe
@joelhowe 4 жыл бұрын
Upscaled is the best part of Engadget -- thanks so much for these!
@roberttopper2946
@roberttopper2946 3 жыл бұрын
My son left Intel after 15 yrs and went to work for SI-V in Dec 2020.He's a programmer, I think he's working on a compiler.
@ramsesrameez5430
@ramsesrameez5430 4 жыл бұрын
Shaking the world by fastest chips made by brilliant engineers and sound amazing
@pepeshopping
@pepeshopping 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously you don’t truly understand what “fastest@ means...
@danielwoods7325
@danielwoods7325 4 жыл бұрын
Another great Upscaled, love these!
@harishannamalai8669
@harishannamalai8669 4 жыл бұрын
I was among the one who requested for this video. This video was thoroughly informational. Well, no one literally talks about what could go wrong with RISC V.
@jamescameron149
@jamescameron149 4 жыл бұрын
My reply to Winston Smith...
@bufordmaddogtannen
@bufordmaddogtannen 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for fragmentation to come to the cpu space as well...
@sharoyveduchi
@sharoyveduchi 4 жыл бұрын
RISC-V has been announced since 2017 and all they showed us was quake2. The real revolution is power9 for open and Elbrus for being compatible with everything
@Aspenlogic
@Aspenlogic 3 жыл бұрын
The RISC-V instruction set is freely available. That increases the likelihood of hardware designs implementing that ISA being available. However, it doesn't automatically guarantee all intellectual property (IP) for those designs being "free". That is an important distinction.
@jamescameron149
@jamescameron149 4 жыл бұрын
RISC V doesn't perform speculative execution. It is naturally immune. It doesn't perform out-of-order execution if I understand correctly. I'm an enthusiast and obviously welcome polite correction. This will have to be addressed in the future. As long as this is done openly, people far, far smarter than me will find a way. I have a lot of faith in this ISA. Please design a Linux friendly Workstation class CPU so I can buy it...
@pscheie
@pscheie 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think there's anything in RISC-V that prevents or prohibits branch speculation; it's just that no RISC-V chip designs implement it, because, well, problems. I think we're at least a year away from a RISC-V PC, although several groups are working RPi-like RISC-V design boards. SiFive's new president seems keen on pushing for some sort of Linux-capable RISC-V workstation so more developers can work on the software tools for it. SiFive's first 64-bit dev board cost $999; they only made 1000 of them and quickly sold out. They just announced a new 64-bit dev board for $650. MicroChip announced their 64-bit Linux capable dev board for $499 (I think it just started shipping or will shortly). The Raspberry Pi Foundation is a member of the RISC-V Foundation, so obviously they're watching its development, as are several other companies that make RPi-size SBCs.
@satibel
@satibel 4 жыл бұрын
@@pscheie I wonder how feasible would a true soc be (single chip, no external components except an usb port and antenna.)
@pscheie
@pscheie 4 жыл бұрын
@@satibel Selling USB hardware, such as on a SOC as you describe, requires a license from the USB Implementers' Forum, which will limit how low the price can get on the SOC. The USB-IF is a non-profit and the license fees go toward maintaining the USB spec and future development, so it's not that such licensing is a bad idea. But it will add to the cost. On the RPi, the Broadcom chip cost is almost incidental; it's all the other components, buses, and interfaces that make up most of the cost of the board.
@autohmae
@autohmae 4 жыл бұрын
@@pscheie A Raspberry Pi Zero is $5
@trenxee1165
@trenxee1165 4 жыл бұрын
>It doesn't perform out-of-order execution In that case its performance will remain forever in sphere more suited for micro controllers.
@Seek64
@Seek64 3 жыл бұрын
RISC-V itself is just as vulnerable to timing side channel attacks like Spectre and Meltdown. It's biggest advantage in terms of Security is that RISC-V designs do not suffer from the legacy problem as other processors do. People are nowadays more aware of these attacks when designing IP for security critical applications. There are, however, already a varierty of timing side channel attacks shown on RISC-V cores. It all depends on how certain mechanism, e.g. branch prediction, are implemented in hardware.
@codecampbase1525
@codecampbase1525 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. We currently have to develop a compiler for a class and it’s basically a simulated computer system that uses risc-v. Got the video recommended and i learned a lot about the history of risc, we haven’t actually talked about that in class.
@danielglavas
@danielglavas 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, your Upscale series is amazing!
@ramsesrameez5430
@ramsesrameez5430 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of information i get here is much useful then i learned in collage.
@SerPapus
@SerPapus 4 жыл бұрын
The collage of photos ?
@kinsbeans
@kinsbeans 4 жыл бұрын
Well, no offense but I think you haven't learned enough...
@cr1ms0n11
@cr1ms0n11 4 жыл бұрын
We can see that you learned nothing in college ahaha
@alvallac2171
@alvallac2171 4 жыл бұрын
*I (this word should always be capitalized) *much more useful *than (comparison) *what I learned *college (different meaning and pronunciation)
@pepeshopping
@pepeshopping 4 жыл бұрын
Bad college of student.
@MonochromeWench
@MonochromeWench 4 жыл бұрын
for hardware developers it seems great. for me an end user and software developer i'm not expecting it to have any meaningful impact on what I do
@Klffsj
@Klffsj 4 жыл бұрын
@Apple Unfortunately, very few companies want engineers working on hardware and software.
@Klffsj
@Klffsj 4 жыл бұрын
@Apple Well, I like working on both hardware and software, for one thing. Also, if more engineers work on both, then hardware and software will integrate better because the engineers understand how they interact. It may not change the end product, but it could save time troubleshooting.
@laiserfire
@laiserfire 4 жыл бұрын
You should distinguish between architecture and instruction set. The instruction set defines the external interface. The architecture is the internal implementation.
@magellanicspaceclouds
@magellanicspaceclouds 3 жыл бұрын
I love these clips. Brings back memories from comp. arch. class.
@naveenc1453
@naveenc1453 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite KZbin technology "series" is explained.
@Voidkitty_
@Voidkitty_ Жыл бұрын
Hi, here from the future, it's crazy to see how much it's advanced in just two years, I personally have a sbc from sifive with a 4 core 64 bit risc v chip, not to mention google promising to have risc v chips on phones in just two more years. The open hardware revolution has begun
@thusitha320
@thusitha320 3 жыл бұрын
We actually built a RISC-V physical realization as an undergrad final year project. Three unpaid students working part time for two years managed to build from absolute ground up an FPGA implementation that can run linux on command line.
@JonS
@JonS 3 жыл бұрын
ARC was also built around a minimal instruction set with extensions. It's isn't open source (got sold from it's original UK owners to Synopsis), but very deliberately came with a much lower licensing fee than ARM.
@ferencszabo3504
@ferencszabo3504 4 жыл бұрын
A worthy ARM alternative. I've the Kendryte chip but would like try a desktop RISC-V.
@ilovelimpfries
@ilovelimpfries 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, long did it took you guys to shoot this video? The windows started off in bright daylight and ended up in the dark.
@kiraphillips5713
@kiraphillips5713 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent addition to the series, thank you
@chipking005
@chipking005 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Detailed explanation of chip makers going around RISC V. Sweet pie. As a chip verification engineer from india, i could WD company and academician IIT chennai making remarkable contribution. I often wonder why they put efforts, money and manpower on developing open source projects. You gave me a clear pic bro. Thanks. I just think off to hop into RISC V not today but soon...
@MrKathan
@MrKathan 4 жыл бұрын
Great balance between talking speed and information density!
@rugvedmanorkar
@rugvedmanorkar 4 жыл бұрын
We need more of these kind of videos! This series is great !!
@slycordinator
@slycordinator 4 жыл бұрын
By the way, there's a typo in the on screen text. At 1:09 it says that CISC is "Comples..." when it should be "Complex".
@TonyDaExpert
@TonyDaExpert 3 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough my first experience with RISC-V is when I had to learn the assembly for it for a computer engineering class last semester but this is cool
@MKeehlify
@MKeehlify 4 жыл бұрын
5:34 it's worth mentioning that many of the patents have expired and that it's legal to implement many x86 extensions using a clean-room design.
@catchnkill
@catchnkill 4 жыл бұрын
No! There is copyright protection for the x86 instruction set. Copyright is different with patent. x86 is still Intel's copyrighted asset.
@raylopez99
@raylopez99 4 жыл бұрын
@@catchnkill Do you know what "clean-room design" means? MKeehlify is right. No copyright if clean-room.
@catchnkill
@catchnkill 4 жыл бұрын
@@raylopez99 But then it is practically useless. It means you need to translate the x86 instructions into RISC-V instructions in order to avoid copyright issue. That is what Apple's Rosetta 2 software is doing. When you do that, even if you manage, all the power efficiency, speed advantage will be vanished. Moreover, this translation stuff may take more effort and resources than to develop several RISC-V native chips.
@willd1mindmind639
@willd1mindmind639 3 жыл бұрын
RISC once had a large segment of the business server market prior to x86 CPUs becoming more powerful and overtaking them in performance due to Moore's law. Most of these older RISC systems were designed from the ground up by each vendor for its own performance goals in the server market and had their own flavor of Unix (not linux) or other custom operating system designed to go with the hardware. Of course the RISC-V ecosystem is inherently designed with Linux in mind and it remains to be seen if it will be supported by Windows 10.
@Go.el_Hadam
@Go.el_Hadam 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best video you have made.
@GFClocked
@GFClocked 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video, easy to understand. Thanks
@luizotavio2116
@luizotavio2116 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope this becomes mainstream. Open source is the way to go! (Or open hardware in this case)
@andrewd3899
@andrewd3899 4 жыл бұрын
Great work. Really informative and also easy to follow
@marksinclair1335
@marksinclair1335 4 жыл бұрын
Love the series and the video! Thanks, Chris!
@constantinbauer6307
@constantinbauer6307 4 жыл бұрын
You have to make more of these
@charlesbeaudry3263
@charlesbeaudry3263 4 жыл бұрын
It was an excellent suggestion. Enjoyed it a lot.
@cineblazer
@cineblazer 3 жыл бұрын
blown away by the quality of this video
@mathiasfantoni2458
@mathiasfantoni2458 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. A lot of videos confused me a bit about CISC and RISC, and you managed to clear all that up in like 10 seconds for me. Also 1:08 "Comples"? xD
@ramiro041
@ramiro041 4 жыл бұрын
This video is really good, very explainary, keep it up
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
You sir are my favorite presenter for Engadget. Very well done and thought out video today. To add to what you said. My engineer buddies also feel the same about chip designs. Sure companies will adopt the tech if there’s money 💰 to be made. Which is understandable. Why spend if there’s no return? Let’s hope these designs do continue to allow for open source computing. (:
@johnlinley4375
@johnlinley4375 4 жыл бұрын
ISA used to mean Industrial Standard Architecture, for those who are likely to be confused.
@geraldbaria
@geraldbaria 4 жыл бұрын
This is really really good content engadget!! More of these!
@DMSBrian24
@DMSBrian24 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they published it under a GPL style license where the deriving implementations have to remain open, I mean this is still better than anything else out there but we're just gonna end up with more proprietary designs regardless.
@activ8me3
@activ8me3 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the inspiring vid. Well presented - and it gave me some food for thought.
@warpmonkey
@warpmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
The argument against RISC-V is not as harsh as you described, because there will always be an open source level of the instruction set (and growing toolset) that people can fall back to. Yes, some commercial variants will happen, but think of it like any large open source software product, there will be commercial variants, and open source responses.
@ChumlyFernando
@ChumlyFernando 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos guys! This series is amazing!
@tjejojyj
@tjejojyj 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks.
@sukritaggarwal7136
@sukritaggarwal7136 4 жыл бұрын
Please explain the difference between ISA, Computer Architechture and Computer Organization in a future video. Basically, the whole chip designing process. Thanks
@jandrews377
@jandrews377 4 жыл бұрын
I think we are seeing the tail-end of x86/x64. Now that apple have demonstrated that it can build an arm-powered competitor, that it competitive, it might be the big push others need. Hopefully we will see high-end desktop risc-v parts being sold to OEM's in the next 5 years. I am guessing they will resemble something like the raspberry pie but for laptop and mini-pc builders.
@roebbiej
@roebbiej 4 жыл бұрын
More upscaled please! I would do questionable things to get you to make this a weekly series.
@UXXV
@UXXV 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the changing light outside the window across this video 👌 Devotion to the art
@hindigente
@hindigente 3 жыл бұрын
It is really exciting to be living in an era of open source hardware. I hope Risk-V takes off.
@maistooo
@maistooo 2 жыл бұрын
It won't take off like open source software. R&D for hardware needs lots of money and only big corporations will have the money. They don't care about open source.
@AndersonVenturini
@AndersonVenturini 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video! congrats!
@RobinCafolla
@RobinCafolla 4 жыл бұрын
This video's style is interesting. The necessities of shooting-from-home and the natural light shift in the room add an interesting sequencing to the video that really brings you along with it. There's also some fascinating visual distortion around the presenters hands at 13:36 that I can't quite explain.
@fredknox2781
@fredknox2781 4 жыл бұрын
1:08 Comples? Complex, I think.
@TymexComputing
@TymexComputing 4 жыл бұрын
Nehalem was meant to be upscaled architecture afair, few years ago i wanted to buy a demo server of OpenPOWER, i really wanted, checked the compatibility with linux contacted the companies that manufacture them and it came out to be more expensive than a faster bigger of the shelf server...
@2megaweeman
@2megaweeman 4 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video/breakdown of the different type 1 hypervisiors (Xen, KVM, ESX, hyper-V, proprietary ones like AWS's)? And the impact they have on cloud computing) Each one could probably be a video on its own lol. Other topics i think could be interesting. - interplanetary internet ( satellite relays at Lagrange points, spacex starlink?) - desktop mode (can a smartphone replace a desktop with everything in the cloud?, using a Windows VM in the browser if you need heavy applications work loads) - BGP hijacking (I like networking, can get people to see why the "internet" goes down for some places) - performance per watt ( supercomputers green500) vs normal top 500 computers - data backup methodologies (son, father, grandfather vs tower of hanoi) - ITER - CDNs -Edit - chaos engineering (fault tolerant system design)
@Iifesteal
@Iifesteal 4 жыл бұрын
The reason I subscribed to this channel, amazing series
@Robersora
@Robersora 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! The RISC-V foundation honestly deserves a Nobel-price.
@punpck
@punpck 4 жыл бұрын
looooool the screw driver at 0:58
@mnemonic6047
@mnemonic6047 3 жыл бұрын
Raptor pc creates risc v motherboards in atx format to have a ibm power9 cpu socketed, So risc v can be in your pc 😊
@textdriven
@textdriven 4 жыл бұрын
What lighting are you using? Looks good
@ALIFSALLEH
@ALIFSALLEH 4 жыл бұрын
This is great and solid upscaled content! Gentlements, it is a honour to see you guys in the comment section on how content like this can gather a great technology-enthusiast commenters who always passionate on masterpiece informations.
@rafalzasada8826
@rafalzasada8826 3 жыл бұрын
Don't hold your breath. Look at 8051 microcontroller - it is still well alive. There is incredible selection of ARM microcontrollers (e.g STM32) and people will stick with them for very, very long time. Possibly RISC-V will be used in some applications where ASIC is used now.
@colab_stdio
@colab_stdio 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that's a lot of ground covered Chris! Great series 👍🏼👍🏼 ......and before I forget, that shirt is 🔥🔥 too! Ummm,.....where'd you get it? Any links? 😁
@0menadds
@0menadds 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome.. thank you very much. Great information.
@uwekonnigsstaddt524
@uwekonnigsstaddt524 4 жыл бұрын
Cool Millennium Falcon shirt!!!
@tadmarshall2739
@tadmarshall2739 3 жыл бұрын
Great presentation on a very interesting topic, thank you! This is encouraging ...
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