Rising Up: Season 4 at a Glance - Guile

Actually a lot to cover for once.
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[@MrPavySRK]

I love all these videos, they're somewhat therapeutic lol

[@apa123APA]

Popcorn at ready when his usage% drops way down since now has the "OH NOES NERFED"-stigma on him.

[@CrowFGC]

apa123APA i might pick him up now, seems better to play with new changes

[@Zeroforce14]

I don’t even play Guile and I like these changes

[@Intrenxic_Dark]

They adjusted the the stuff that needed to be adjusted. I did want his booms to be 0 on block instead of +2 but that might have been too much. Overall, I think he's in a good spot and should still be very good. I'm sure some players will still bitch about him but, that's par for the course.

[@MegaX432]

Guile main here. I'm pretty cool with the changes overall. He lost top tier status but I think he'll still be plenty viable when the dust settles

[@FreebyrdFayelanx]

MegaX432 12yr Guile main. No, they went too far touching his specials. He’s around mid tier which is OK if everyone is much closer, but that remains to be seen.

[@JoshT4life]

he a mid tier now, just changing his sb speed messes up this character as a whole

[@westmatt007]

hey main guile as well on the ps4 gouken84 i really need help with the karin match up

[@JoshT4life]

@@westmatt007 dont spam sonic boom. Use vskill to bait her dash or jump. Take the throw. It's a hard match for guile. I suggest watching daigo vs punk or nuckledu

[@westmatt007]

@@JoshT4life Thanks

[@olivermisbach2454]

The crouch walk was honestly my favorite thing about Guile. So I'm really happy with these patch notes.

[@saamgeuk]

Oliver Misbach it was your favorite? How do you effectively use this technique in the game? It’s like no one falls for it because u can see him clearly crawling.

[@olivermisbach2454]

@@saamgeuk I can't find an effective use for it. I love it because it's so ridiculous. Probably the best (and possible only) time to use it is to walk under Sagat's high fireballs. But I'm not a Guile player, so someone might be able to find something cool.

[@Comoesa]

im shocked you didn't focus on how big the boom nerf was

[@nichalasfink7952]

with absolute perfect charging you can get TC's into cross, regular boom, then flash kick. It's super difficult but it is consistent

[@RAF_Ai]

great video, more guile videos please !!!!!!

[@Onewolf101]

This is how you Nerf someone 🙏🏾

[@MrPavySRK]

In a sense guile was buffed and nerfed but now you have to play a little smarter to dominate matchups he can't auto pilot anymore basically . I respect these changes

[@Skavengeful]

I can't wait to see the Falke matchup.

[@ponchuffyxxx]

Why?

[@Skavengeful]

@@ponchuffyxxx because I've played Falke since she came out, and she still didn't have the tools to deal with Guile last patch. Now he can't *autopilot jump after booms anymore.

[@StreetFighterWWE]

Absolutely hated fighting Guile since Season 2, so I’m thrilled the nerf hammer is finally swinging his way in a significant fashion. The Target Combo changes are interesting, so hopefully they’ll get used a bit more. Hoping I won’t feel like I HAVE to play his game all the time, regardless of my character choice now.

[@MrGhoulster]

Still can't Believe this fucker got away so easily. Still top 3

[@JoshT4life]

What buff? lol

[@marinezomby9377]

BUT he still has season 1 Chun-Li buttons...… (abusable)

[@edwinduarte7810]

Eso fue un abuso lo que capcom iso con guile 😤

[@michingmallecho4201]

The crouch walking getting faster. Capcom🌝

[@nickadt]

All of these changes are warranted but Capcom seriously needs to nerf Guile's walk speed. Also, why are "defensive" Guile and Menat the only two characters with 30+ hit combos?

[@Intrenxic_Dark]

You've got a really good point. What the hell is with the insane offense of characters that are supposed be defensive by nature?

[@Bafael]

It is the nature of defensive characters to have fireballs with low commitment or good recovery, and it's the nature of fireballs with low commitment or good recovery to lead into huge corner combos.

[@nickadt]

But Guile had good fireballs in other SF games and he was not landing 30 hit combos. In fact, I am aware of no other defensive character in any SF game that had the longest combos in the game. What makes it extra extra weird is that the "offensive" counterpart to Guile--namely Nash--has one of the slowest walk speeds in the game relative to Guile having one of the faster walk speeds and Nash having the slower, longer ranged, unsafe versions of the same command normals. The fact is that Guile is not a strict "defensive" character in this game, yet he has all of the defensive tools coupled with well above average offensive.

[@Bafael]

@@nickadt Well installs are one of the big reasons too. Guile didn't have an install in other games so they couldn't limit him by a timer. After all, Guile needs both a cornered opponent and an install to get his huge combos. People said all the time that Dhalsim and Rose and Guile in USF4 had insane corner pressure. It all goes back to lack of pushback in corners from fireballs, and having good fireballs. I don't think Nash is THAT offensive or that Guile is THAT defensive in SFV but the need to charge specials mean Guile obviously has to play a slower more methodical game most of the time, or else abandon using his fireball much in neutral.

[@nickadt]

I honestly do not believe that the charge mechanic is that much of a handicap in terms of offense this game. Chun Li and Urien and Boxer, for instance, are also charge characters that do not have any issue getting in and applying pressure. Now, I think we both agree that Guile has better offensive than Nash despite the fact one is a charge character and the other is a motion command character; so while the traditional motion v charge dynamic may be true in theory, in practice you literally have two versions of the same character proving the exception to the rule. And not only that, but Daigo proves that Guile is an effective character without holding downback--he keeps his stick in neutral for half the match, buffering his fireballs during blockstun or combos. In other words, Guile is so effective at offense that he doesn't even need to spam booms to open his opponent up.

[@drexismaximus2072]

I think he’s still valuable. However I’m going to drop him as my main.

[@Appstoregamestester]

Why didnt they just remove him from the game?

[@ZoomingOut402]

Tbh that would be good :^)

[@AsterDXZ]

Believe it or not, people would actually like to play Guile

[@fissilewhistle]

They were too busy adding FANG, Alex, and Vega.

[@bennybyers1409]

KamektheMagikoopa1 yeah Vega and Alex were my favourite sfv newcomers

[@deesix3504]

@@bennybyers1409 Vega and Alex are SFV newcomers??? Wth dude???

[@CrowFGC]

Wait, you think he’s “best-designed?” I have the opposite opinion. It doesn’t feel like a Capcom fighter when you’re against him-he forces you to play his game, and he does it to any character without any change of playstyle. Other characters give you freedom and can be tackled in many different ways.

[@Red-jk1tt]

That's the zoner archetype, they dictate the pace of the game. This isn't exclusive to Guile.

[@Murdokdark]

dude... i think your videos are awesome... but you should slow down you speech, i mean you talk too fast. ok is my fault english is not my first language but still... please ? :)

[@Carlton_Banks]

English is not my 1st language as well and i understood him just fine, maybe you should work on improving your listening skills first, before telling native speakers to speak slower then normal speed. You can also slow the video down if that's too much for you, KZbin has an option for it in video settings, there are also extensions that do the same stuff like "KZbin Speed Controller", you can find it at Chrome/Firefox extension stores, maybe that'll help?

[@Murdokdark]

@@Carlton_Banks i didnt say i couldn't understand, it was just a constructive criticism, he is going to be way more appealing to his whole overall audience by doing that, right now it sounds like hes reading something really fast.

[@Carlton_Banks]

Doesn't sound like that to me at all. Sounds like an average English Native speaker speaking at normal speed, have you ever heard French or European Portuguese speakers? Those guys speak FAST compared to him. i also saw that nobody actually mentioned this aspect of the video in the comments section, everybody was focused on talking about the actual content of it, not the way it was communicated. I think you're just not used to it, think of my previous post as a constructive criticism as well.

[@ZoomingOut402]

1 nerf, 2 buffs. This is just a lovetap to the wrist. It took 3 years to buff fang and alex. 3 years to nerf cammy. Good job, capcom.

[@sobosswagner]

They nerfed important shit. Flash kick invincibility, boom recovery and sobat were 3 of Guiles biggest strengths and they hurt more than the buffs help since they were buffs to stuff that saw very scarce use

[@Carlton_Banks]

What they nerfed was KEY to Guile's game plan, meanwhile, what they buffed was situational at best. They gave him some new combo possibilities at the expense of more boom recovery, more boom speed, which is not exactly what guile wants since it gives him less time to space control and charge another boom, and less flashkick invincibility, he's also a frame slower anti-airing.

[@CrowFGC]

Alex was broken in season3, guy