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@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 2 жыл бұрын
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@brianm6337
@brianm6337 2 жыл бұрын
I used to own a Star Wars Cabinet. It died in the 90s. *sigh* I wish i still had it.
@Thrakus
@Thrakus 2 жыл бұрын
I found one, it is the worst building in the whole city always bad stuff going on there., It was sitting on the sidewalk next to trash bags, works perfectly does not even have the sound bug. Best find ever. I always wanted one
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 2 жыл бұрын
I'm puzzled that you say the Vectrex is light - the two I own are both several kilos and are not easy to lift with one hand due to the shape of the carry handle, they don't vibrate either - they might make noises as a natural consequence of the display but vibrate - nope - they feel weighted like a sowing machine to me. The only QC issue I can say they have is that sometimes they joystick un screws itself.
@colin888robinson
@colin888robinson 2 жыл бұрын
I dont comment often but this is an excellent video. For once I thank the algorithm. Quality stuff. Thanks for taking the time.
@FightCollective
@FightCollective 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianm6337 Spent about 10 hours one day clocking that game. It got to a point the game didn't get harder... though it was hard at that point and you literally had to play with the reflexes of a Jedi
@axelprino
@axelprino 2 жыл бұрын
The Vectrex sometimes feels like a game console from another timeline where technology went on a different direction.
@andrewnorris5415
@andrewnorris5415 Жыл бұрын
If you told me this was Russian....
@R3TR0R4V3
@R3TR0R4V3 Жыл бұрын
It definitely went a different direction.. It's the only vector-based console. 🙂
@RetroJack
@RetroJack Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@foogod4237
@foogod4237 Жыл бұрын
It definitely makes you wonder, "what if the world had been different and vector displays became the default instead of raster?" Sorta like the whole steampunk idea, but, well, I guess maybe "vectorpunk"?
@aegisraven1284
@aegisraven1284 Жыл бұрын
No
@Halfbrew
@Halfbrew Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this wonderful tutorial. I am the son of the inventor of Vectrex and was the master toy tester for all games.
@corgibuttz2550
@corgibuttz2550 2 жыл бұрын
This is going to be a painful one for me to watch. My grandparents had a vectrex when I was growing up, and I played it every time I visited. When they both passed away my mom asked me if I wanted anything from the estate. I said "that old TV video game thing in the basement." She told me she sold it at a garage sale the previous day for 5 bucks. In the box. I was crushed then because I wanted it for the memories. I'm crushed now because I still want it for the same reasons. =/
@LEGOpachinko
@LEGOpachinko 2 жыл бұрын
That sucks. On top of that, it is actually still quite fun to play.
@tolkienfan1972
@tolkienfan1972 2 жыл бұрын
Man that makes me sad. Sorry for you!
@alext3811
@alext3811 2 жыл бұрын
If it's any consolation, on US ebay (because that's where I live) Vectrexes aren't insanely expensive (cheaper then modern AAA games for whatever it's worth). I know it's not the same as your childhood console, but it's something at least?
@LEGOpachinko
@LEGOpachinko 2 жыл бұрын
@@alext3811 cheapest one i see is 350 USD for a broken one. Cheaper than modern AAA games is prolly a bit too enthusiastic :) For 99 USD you get the box only :)
@corgibuttz2550
@corgibuttz2550 2 жыл бұрын
@@alext3811 It's a really nice thought, at the prices they go for I'll just get my nostalgia bumps from the MiSTer. It has a fine vectrex core for it. I'm also into mountain biking at the moment and that is pretty much stolen all the video game funds lol.
@FatNorthernBigot
@FatNorthernBigot 2 жыл бұрын
In Lunar Lander, I remember you could crash the module, or damage it beyond repair, leaving the occupant stranded. The latter option gave ten-year-old me what we would now describe as "anxiety".
@weedmanwestvancouverbc9266
@weedmanwestvancouverbc9266 2 жыл бұрын
It also had a message that you wrecked a 6 megabuck lander sometimes when you crash it.
@FatNorthernBigot
@FatNorthernBigot 2 жыл бұрын
@@weedmanwestvancouverbc9266 I remember, now.
@robertellis6853
@robertellis6853 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the feeling I get when I crash on the Mün in Kerbal Space Program
@J.DeLaPoer
@J.DeLaPoer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember the existential comedy/horror of that particular game as a kid. The simple graphics only made that scenario all the more bleak too.
@RedBricksTraffic
@RedBricksTraffic Жыл бұрын
A cottage we visited when I was maybe 10 years old (1995 or so) had one of these just laying around for guests to use. I played it so much while we stayed there!
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 2 жыл бұрын
When I did my military service one of the guys brought his Vectrex with, I think, 15 game cartridges. He bought it at a clearance sale and got a great price. That machine went through nine months of durability testing and came out swinging. Good times!
@AZOffRoadster
@AZOffRoadster 2 жыл бұрын
I used to repair IBM vector systems back in the mid '90s. They were used by mil contractors for designing bombs and such. Peripherals included an 8 rotary encoder pod, a digitizing tablet, and one of those ball things where the ball doesn't move, it registers force in 3 axis.
@JasonKingKong
@JasonKingKong 2 жыл бұрын
A friend had Dark Tower. It was fun initially but because it used a stack of reels inside the tower to control the display, it didn't take long before we knew what it was going to display just by the sounds of various reels spinning up.
@mrspaceman2764
@mrspaceman2764 2 жыл бұрын
When my grandfather retired from the USAF in 1986, he returned from the UK with a BBC Micro and Elite!!! I was only 5yo and it blew my mind! Been gaming on "PC" ever since. I took that thing to the library computer lab when I was 7 to impress (who my son today would call) "The Neck Beards" and impressed they were. I was the king of the second floor library computer lab in 1987 Torrance CA.
@craigreaper7295
@craigreaper7295 2 жыл бұрын
You know, I remember playing the cockpit Star Wars in the arcades BITD, and just hearing the music / samples etc lifts the hairs on the back of my neck still!
@MattPilz
@MattPilz 2 жыл бұрын
"To get the true impression of smoothness, brightness and the loveliness of the Vectrex you have to see it in person." That is the most accurate statement. It was similar to my first experience playing Asteroids in the arcade after years of emulation and raster remakes. The intensity and crispness of the beam on original vector CRTs for bullets, teleporting etc. is just unreal and very memorable. For anyone interested I did just put together the definitive calibration guide for the Vectrex system on my channel to get it running like new.
@Topesio66
@Topesio66 2 жыл бұрын
What channel?
@MattPilz
@MattPilz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Topesio66 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip6ogJmEadqHfaM
@GarryGri
@GarryGri 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately mine is broke just now ☹ I think it may just be the power switch, sometime I'll probably open it up and try wiring the power on to see 🤓
@paul_k_7351
@paul_k_7351 2 жыл бұрын
This comment is so true. I remember playing Tempest for the first time and it blew my mind. There’s nothing that modern graphics can do to emulate just how crisp, smooth and high contrast a vector display is.
@MattPilz
@MattPilz 2 жыл бұрын
@@paul_k_7351 There are so many other clever hardware tricks in arcade cabinets too. It gives me entirely new appreciation for the engineering of them. Also just played Asteroids Deluxe for first time this year and they use a mirror and holographic layer to effectively make it look like you're floating in the middle of an asteroid belt, something I never realized playing on a computer. And with Q-Bert they have a mechanical "thump" at the base timed with when Q-Bert falls of the edge, it is perfect.
@fattomandeibu
@fattomandeibu 2 жыл бұрын
That demo was something else. Those guys have some pure skill.
@Wyrdwad
@Wyrdwad Жыл бұрын
The title of this video was not clickbait. My mind is kind of blown by this. I would've never known such a thing existed -- that such a thing COULD exist! Absolutely remarkable. Also, I simply never get tired of watching content about the Vectrex in general, and wish I still owned one. My brother had one when I was a kid, and I played the crap out of it, even well into the 16-bit era. I have no idea what became of it -- it probably got sold at a yard sale or something after I went off to college and my parents moved house. I really miss it, though, as there is literally no other home console even remotely like it. The Vectrex is quite possibly the only retro gaming system that I feel holds nearly universal appeal nowadays -- no matter who you are, no matter how dismissive you may be of old and "outdated" technology, if you see a Vectrex in person, you WILL stop and stare, and you WILL be impressed. It's impossible not to be -- especially when you learn the thing originally debuted in 1982! "Ahead of its time" is seriously an understatement.
@EndymionMkII
@EndymionMkII 2 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see Bad Apple playing in a Vectrex but here we are. The Vectrex has always been one of the most unique Retro consoles ever and its great to see it covered and loved over the Cave.
@darkwinter6028
@darkwinter6028 2 жыл бұрын
Well… if they can squeeze it into a Compaq luggable… why not? 😉
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I just wish when they designed the Vectrex they had gone with a better sound chip than the AY, and found someway to get rid of the buzz, thankfully these days there are things like the Buzzoff kits for it.
@prgnify
@prgnify 2 жыл бұрын
Internet tip: if you ever think "I'll never see Bad Apple playing in a [word]" you are wrong.
@stamfordly6463
@stamfordly6463 2 жыл бұрын
@@CommodoreFan64 Have a look at Techmoan's Vectrex video, from memory (which mean I could be wrong) I think he found a way to reduce the buzz a bit.
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 2 жыл бұрын
@@stamfordly6463 As I said in my comment there is the Buzzoff kit that gets rid of it that was produced in recent years, I was talking about when the system originally released, they should have noticed that design flaw, and fixed it before full production.
@adriansinclair5062
@adriansinclair5062 2 жыл бұрын
Still get shivers down my spine seeing the original starwars arcade. Such a fantastic game. Almost got a vetrex for Christmas in 1983 but ended up with a dragon 32 instead (which I loved).
@aeiouxs
@aeiouxs 2 жыл бұрын
I nearly fell off my Zero-G seat when I saw that version of Elite running on a Vector display. DEAR GOD YES!
@conflictmagazine
@conflictmagazine Жыл бұрын
I love how the demo scene can always show you what a machine is capable of...that demo was f***ing awesome! Thanks for the video.
@efromhb
@efromhb 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't thought about the Vectrex for years. Stumbled across this and it brings back a lot of memories. What a time to be a kid during the late 70s and 80s. Great times.
@greatkingrat
@greatkingrat 2 жыл бұрын
The Star Wars that we had at the local arcade was a full “sit down inside” cockpit game and boy was it loud! (Not as loud as Sinistar mind you). There was always a queue for Star Wars.
@marcopederzoli4939
@marcopederzoli4939 2 жыл бұрын
Ah the memories! I still recall passing the 3 mln points 35 years later
@DamienPaulLabonte
@DamienPaulLabonte Жыл бұрын
" I LIVE!!!" cranked to 11
@BeholderThe1st
@BeholderThe1st 2 жыл бұрын
The Vectrex was the first console my brother and I got as our shared Xmas gift in the early 80's. My parents got it because we were driving them nuts, and, because it had its own TV so they wouldn't have to share the single home TV with us. We would bring the vectrex with us when visiting relatives, play with it in our car port with all the neighbourhood kids. Loved that machine. I still kick myself for selling it (and my Commodore 64 a few years later.) This was an amazing machine.
@3vi1J
@3vi1J 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a Vectrex, with the original blue/grey carrying bag, sitting in my "to do" projects pile. A co-worker gave it to me 30 years back and I just never got around to turning it on. One day... That cart is brilliant! Amazing idea and execution. Thanks for sharing this!
@JamesHanniganComposer
@JamesHanniganComposer Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic and interesting machine this is (and it runs Tempest beautifully!)
@JamesHanniganComposer
@JamesHanniganComposer Жыл бұрын
@@dentonkent3563 Thank you. No, I'm not working on Hogwarts Legacy. I think I've done quite enough music on the franchise (for now, at least!)
@WhatHoSnorkers
@WhatHoSnorkers 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the advert for Dark Tower as a kid, but only vaguely... and then whenever I saw bottles of Black Tower in the shop I remembered it. I think there were some legal issues so Dark Tower wasn't around for long. Good Lord! What an AMAZING bit of kit! For just homebrew dev that's fantastic... and then running arcade ROMs too! Wow!
@captain_zed
@captain_zed 2 жыл бұрын
Dark Tower is a crazy cool game, even today. It's almost a video game on its own.
@j.r.millstone
@j.r.millstone 2 жыл бұрын
That "eek help spike oh no molly" sound bite gave me such a nostalgia trip. I've had that burned into my brain for ages.
@synaesthesia2010
@synaesthesia2010 2 жыл бұрын
i've seen Bad Apple running on so many consoles, and the fact that it can run on the Vectrex shows that all consoles were capable of running FMV, the only thing stopping them was the amount of available storage space on the cartridges at the time
@charliekahn4205
@charliekahn4205 2 жыл бұрын
And the memory limitations. And the line limitations on vector screens.
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 2 жыл бұрын
The advantage of vector graphics is that the CPU has to push a lot less numbers around than when you are running a raster display, where the CPU has to keep every pixel in memory and on some machines even scan that memory to output the video. On the Vectrex, each point is basically just a couple of 8-bit numbers which are fed into a DAC and directly into the CRT deflection circuit, and there's only a few hundred points in each scene, as opposed to having to push hundreds or even thousands of pixels around just to move a sprite across the screen.
@robertwilson3866
@robertwilson3866 2 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert but I think that Vec demo cart has a powerful CPU in it, so it may just be using the Vetcrex screen.
@stephencoombes6496
@stephencoombes6496 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this - I obtained my first Vectrex the day after you uploaded this video, and have now discovered a whole world of new stuff I didn't know I needed... 🙂
@darrenwells2277
@darrenwells2277 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting that clip playing the old Star Wars arcade game... It sparks pure nostalgia for me. The amount of 10ps I put in that machine back in the 80s!
@LeonardSamuels75
@LeonardSamuels75 2 жыл бұрын
I loved that game!
@seebarry4068
@seebarry4068 2 жыл бұрын
I always wanted a vectrex. I used to hang around the toy shop for ages. My parents used to dump me there and go shopping. Loved it.
@electronicecstasy
@electronicecstasy 2 жыл бұрын
Golly, I think that's the smoothest I've ever seen Elite run! All of this is honestly mind-blowing. And you're right, the sheer brightness of vector elements on a CRT simply can't be matched by emulation.
@ScavengerFX
@ScavengerFX 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first video of yours I have seen and I have always loved the Vectrex. Thank you for demonstrating just some of the amazing things this old machine can do!
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 2 жыл бұрын
My please and welcome Mark, thanks for watching
@presterjohn71
@presterjohn71 2 жыл бұрын
I bought mine when they were being heavily discounted at Woolies. Sold it in working order with a few games for £360 on eBay last year.
@JohnSmith-xq1pz
@JohnSmith-xq1pz 2 жыл бұрын
Watching The Cave while in my little retro alcove setup in a cornor of our unfinshed basement can't get more retro than that lol
@MikePerigo
@MikePerigo 2 жыл бұрын
Apart from being an amazing Vectrex review, this brought back many great memories of vector graphic arcade machines. Lunar Lander, Asteroids, Battlezone, etc; were all cutting-edge games when released and blew their competition out of the water. Not just because they were vector based but for the whole gameplay experience.
@scottbreon9448
@scottbreon9448 2 жыл бұрын
Really surprised that BattleZone never got an official port to the Vectrex to be honest. Would have been the ideal machine to port the game to
@Del-Canada
@Del-Canada 2 жыл бұрын
I was hooked on Star Wars and that stereo sound. My dentist had a Vectrex in his office for the patients the year it came out.
@ExplosiveAction
@ExplosiveAction 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say that I get so much enjoyment out of the quartet of RMC, LGR, 8-Bit Guy and Techmoan (and other YT'ers of course - like Nostalgia Nerd, Retro Recipes and Mr Lurch, Aussie represent!) that I get all the retro gaming and tech goodness that I need. I don't have the space or time to dedicate to upkeep of retro hardware or even play many games anymore, so watching these bursts from youtube creators really scratches the itch for me. In the same way that Retro Gamer magazine did when I collected. So thanks collectively chaps for doing what you do.
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 2 жыл бұрын
Just to plug a couple smaller channels I follow: you'd probably enjoy The Random DOS Game Show, which is exactly what it sounds like. Also Ancient DOS Games / Pixelmusement. Or if you're into 8-bit video games too, Jeremy Parish / Video Works.
@human.earthling
@human.earthling 2 жыл бұрын
And the cathode ray dude and technology connections
@Evercade_Effect
@Evercade_Effect 2 жыл бұрын
My mind is totally blown. This thing is awesome and I love old Retro doing things no one could ever dream of.
@thedysk1
@thedysk1 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I've always loved the Vectrex ever since seeing one in the local toy shop windows back in 1982. I was one of those kids with their nose pressed up against the glass marveling at the Vectrex technology. I've never owned one but maybe one day, however looking at the prices I would have to sell a kidney. And absolutely wonderful to see Star Wars and Elite being played. Wonderful stuff.
@GarryGri
@GarryGri 2 жыл бұрын
I got mine for around £40 years ago when they were much cheaper. When we were much younger my brother swapped , I think a spectrum+, for one. Then he sold it on again for a few pounds! Changed days! Vectrex prices are just silly money nowadays. If I can't fix mine I won't be replacing it... Which is a pity as I was just about to release a game on cartridge.
@absalomdraconis
@absalomdraconis 2 жыл бұрын
@@GarryGri : I haven't tried yet (if ever...), but it should be possible to reproduce the display using piezo elements for the x-y scan, some lenses + led for on/off, and a piece of "frosted" glass + a cardboard shade for the screen. Might be worth playing around with if the display goes out on you.
@kevintjeuh8888
@kevintjeuh8888 2 жыл бұрын
Got mine at a dump few years ago, mint condition
@GarryGri
@GarryGri 2 жыл бұрын
@@absalomdraconis Not sure what you mean here? I think it's just my power switch that's on the fritz. It's a common issue
@perihelion7445
@perihelion7445 2 жыл бұрын
Had an Hanimex Pong System, CBS Colecovision, Atari 2600, C64 and Amiga's. The Vectrex though was and is still in a league of it's own, I would put it up there as being one of the greatest systems of all time, and yes, it was MADE for Elite, that would be the best version of it. That glow as if Magnesium was being burnt is phenomenal.
@marcfruchtman9473
@marcfruchtman9473 2 жыл бұрын
The Vectrex was one of my favorite games for about 2 or 3 years. But the lack of multiple colors eventually led me to other computer gaming systems.
@richardwall5678
@richardwall5678 2 жыл бұрын
I loved playing Dark Tower!! Thanks for the trip down memory lane. 🙂
@londongaz2
@londongaz2 2 жыл бұрын
This was my favourite in The Cave! That display is like nothing I've seen before. So crisp!
@haydengittins2836
@haydengittins2836 2 жыл бұрын
Those vector graphics still look great, and seem to have a nice 3d quality to them. Dark Tower has recently been remade (I think there's a kickstarter on for an expansion currently) and it's great fun having the tower rotating and sending skulls your way while laughing maniacally.
@lunchrevisited
@lunchrevisited 2 жыл бұрын
I played Dark Tower as a kid, (1981?) and I remember it being a lot of fun the first time, but not many re-plays. The tower "computer" was effectively the dungeon master, serving as a memory for each player's game progress. It handled "battles" that happened against monsters and such, and provided sound effects. I'm sure some of the fun came from the novelty of having an electronic component to the game, back in a time before home computers and Atari were common.
@salty6pence672
@salty6pence672 2 жыл бұрын
My brother got one for Christmas, We played it often but we couldn't afford the batteries back then so it was a when we have batteries thing.
@ThaVoodoo1
@ThaVoodoo1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. The 80's MB Vectrex was every boy's dream. I can remember playing vector graphics games on my Amstrad CPC 464 back in the day. Star Wars 2, Starglider & Elite are good examples.
@zakuguriin4521
@zakuguriin4521 9 ай бұрын
That anime one at the end blew my mind. That looks bonkers! And that console is from 1982 🤯
@uploadJ
@uploadJ 2 жыл бұрын
One of our engineers on the MRCA project at TI had one of these back in the day ... VERY cool ...
@vectrexer
@vectrexer 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video presentation! A suggestion, review Thomas Sontowski's very own titles on the VecFever cart. An impressive title of his is Robot Arena, a Robotron: 2084 like game. Robot Arena shows off both the number of vectors, and the number of active game object that can be achieved. And it's a fun game as well. The appearance of Thomas' game titles on VecFever, as well as the MAME arcade ROM capabilities of the VecFever also contribute significantly to current price of the VecFever cartridge. There are so many more features not covered in this video that may also be of interest in a future video about VecFever.
@videogameobsession
@videogameobsession 8 ай бұрын
What is the "current price of the VecFever"and where can you buy one?
@johnrickard8512
@johnrickard8512 11 ай бұрын
What is probably the most criminally under-appreciated console of all time
@TheAlStewartArchives
@TheAlStewartArchives 2 жыл бұрын
My friend owns one of these and you really have to see them working in person to see how unique the vector display is. Nothing else like it really.
@johnchase7667
@johnchase7667 2 жыл бұрын
We had Dark Tower when I was a kid. It was a lot of fun. Also had the Dungeon and Dragon electronic game they made - it was very fun too.
@Strateggo
@Strateggo Жыл бұрын
I got this as a kid for Xmas. I couldn’t believe what it could do and what it did. Especially when I turned on Spike and Spike talked. Just crazy. And ROTJ was just a year or two old. This was the future in the present.
@vectrex28
@vectrex28 2 жыл бұрын
Elite is the one game I've always wanted to see on the Vectrex! So happy to finally see it. Another homebrew I'd absolutely recommend it Vectrexagon. I'd even go as far as to say it's one of the best gaming experiences I've had, especially when played in the dark on that humble vector display. Absolutely psychedelic and a big recommend from me
@sarabihyena
@sarabihyena 2 жыл бұрын
If they'd managed to squeeze elite onto the origional hardware it might have been the killer app to bring the system out of obscurity.
@nchiley
@nchiley 2 жыл бұрын
I had a dark tower, I was not much older than 12, I couldn't figure it out, thought it was broken, then a few years later I tried again, and figured out what I thought was broken, was how it actually worked. I don't remember much, but I think I enjoyed it a lot, but that may have been the satisfaction of finally getting to play it.
@crabcrabhathat
@crabcrabhathat 2 жыл бұрын
even though this was well before my time, every time i have seen it in motion i have wanted to own my own. it moves at such a great frame rate and theres quite a lot of charm in the vector line graphics, also those custom controllers are awesome.
@GarryGri
@GarryGri 2 жыл бұрын
You know it doesn't really have a 'frame rate' or 'refresh rate' as such, that's more something that comes with raster-scan TV. There is a screen redraw timing but it's not exactly the same thing as you are probably thinking about. A true vector display works very differently from a 'normal' CRT.
@bobcarn
@bobcarn 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a Dark Tower game. It's great! Computerized and mechanical, it uses an early computer chip in lieu of dice-rolling and keeps track of resources. Great fun and very innovative at the time!
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan 2 жыл бұрын
I used to love Dark Tower! Does yours often award you a ‘Beast’ as mine used to do?
@bobcarn
@bobcarn 2 жыл бұрын
@@AtheistOrphan It's been so long since I played I can't remember. :( My current friends aren't ones who like to play games like that. I know you can play it single, but it's not the same.
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobcarn - Thanks for the reply. True, there are lots of activities in life that are more fun when more than one person is involved! 😉
@daniellmarcussen2599
@daniellmarcussen2599 Жыл бұрын
I stole money from my parents to play Star Wars back in the 80's ...and I would do it again.
@jimsmart2522
@jimsmart2522 2 жыл бұрын
Dark Tower! - I'd totally forgotten about that until you showed it... I used to have it!
@fluxrez
@fluxrez 2 жыл бұрын
WOW. Yeah, I had Dark Tower as a kid. That board game was amazing. They recently did a kickstarter for a new version... but I gotta say nothing beats the original. Really expensive though.
@wrongtown
@wrongtown 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I picked up the Kickstarter version and was REALLY impressed with the overall quality. They clearly put a lot of thought & care into it.
@BeefJerkey
@BeefJerkey 2 жыл бұрын
Dark Tower was being developed as a game for the Vectrex (though I'm pretty sure it's quite different from the board game). It was mostly complete, it was all playable, it just needed to be optimized and all. It wasn't properly released because GCE (the company that designed the Vectrex) went out of business and the game was cancelled. The ROM file is floating around out there, though.
@dickbison
@dickbison 2 жыл бұрын
There's something magical about these vector graphics. This technology is now ancient, yet somehow still feels almost futuristic.
@TE5LA-GAMING
@TE5LA-GAMING 2 жыл бұрын
One advantage being there was absolutely no stair stepping in the graphics, something regular monitors can't do.
@timjforsyth
@timjforsyth 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I was always jealous of a friend who has a Vectrex while I had a zx81 but looking back, those fine lines and phosphor burnt warm vectors look fabulous. Imagine If there was a colour version. It’s a little sad that this tech is now in the past. Great video Neil!
@jayc2469
@jayc2469 2 жыл бұрын
Simply breath-taking! I wish I'd kept One of the several I had back in the day. The same applies to the TRS80, TB303, TR808 etc (diverse!).. Vector looking clones _should_ be *Extremely* manageable on modern Pentium i7 based systems, even if it meant drawing pixels very quickly instead of driving the electron beam directly using Vectors. What always staggered me was the sheer waste of cpu/memory/storage that flooded the market, while only a handful of programmers that were able to truly exploit the electronics. The same trend followed through to this generation, when we have Hulkingly Cumbersome OS's such as Windoms 11, overdriving the hardware so unnecessarily!
@jayc2469
@jayc2469 2 жыл бұрын
That was the Vectrex I owned several of in it's day, not the Rocking horse shiz, the VecFever! Demoscene programmers ought to be paid hansomely to exploit modern hardware for Gaming!
@AFourEyedGeek
@AFourEyedGeek 2 жыл бұрын
I own two non-working Vectrex units. Got one to produce a vaded image with no sound. I put it away to fix other units, this video has put them back to the top of my repair pile.
@sarahorton9223
@sarahorton9223 2 жыл бұрын
When I was little the arcade near me had the sit in version. I imagine I spent like $40 of my dads money on that game over the few times we went.
@Paul-vj1tv
@Paul-vj1tv 2 жыл бұрын
I had the Dark Tower board game, it was a great RPG and the computer battles were well done, I can still hear the sound effects all these years later. I believe someone did a software conversion a few years ago. 👍 Always wanted a Vectrex, and still love the original Asteroids 👍😎
@barrycrombie1690
@barrycrombie1690 2 жыл бұрын
I can still remember those sounds, a death march followed by a a few joyous beeps...😀. It was well done I agree
@Paul-vj1tv
@Paul-vj1tv 2 жыл бұрын
@@barrycrombie1690 the Bazaar sound is the one I recall the best along with the battle winning and losing sounds, great memories 👍
@GeorgesChannel
@GeorgesChannel 2 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful episode! I really love Vector Graphics on the 8 bits. But the Vectrex is the King! The brightness as you mentioned is needed because tHe games are designed to be played with the overlays. I also own a vectrex with amost all original games. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us :)
@martin.pokorny
@martin.pokorny 2 жыл бұрын
I agree: it is necessary to see Vectex in person. It's absolutelly beautiful machine.
@jessragan6714
@jessragan6714 2 жыл бұрын
My understanding is that the Pitrex does indeed override the Vectrex's internal processor and uses it as a display for the Raspberry Pi inside. Not only can it run arcade vector games, it emulates Vectrex games... on a Vectrex. Excuse me, I think I need to sit down for a second. My Vectrex is stranded on the other side of the country, regrettably. Videos like this make me want it back even more, because I sure as heck can't afford to buy another one at current market value.
@scottbreon9448
@scottbreon9448 2 жыл бұрын
The Vectrex core on the mister is pretty decent as well TBH
@ForViewingOnly
@ForViewingOnly 2 жыл бұрын
I... had... no idea!! The VecFever is incredible. I guess that it's only using the video side of the Vectrex if it's running ROMs from arcade machines, but, still, to see these games running on the Vectrex is a very beautiful thing indeed. Thanks RMC.
@licensetodrive9930
@licensetodrive9930 2 жыл бұрын
I would walk all the way to The Cave to play that Star Wars game! The whole 3 miles! :D
@cbdougla
@cbdougla 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Vectrex somewhere in my garage. I purchased it on ebay years ago but it never worked right. It's really pretty heartbreaking! Thanks for showing this system off. Really love these things!
@ianbuxton525
@ianbuxton525 2 жыл бұрын
You can also hook up the VecFever to a version of Mame with a serial port adaptor and use the PC to emulate vector games and send the video output to the Vectrex Monitor. Then you can play StarWars with the samples and full music.
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that _was_ how this was working. What, does the Vecfever contain a computer powerful enough to do its own emulation?
@Crybarcz228
@Crybarcz228 2 жыл бұрын
We had two of vectrex units. I so miss them. Gosh knows where they went. Thanks mom.
@carriersignal
@carriersignal 2 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see a modern day version of this complete with the vector scan display.
@michaelmitchell8218
@michaelmitchell8218 2 жыл бұрын
Remember all these back in the day of my childhood. Loved it all. Miss them days because they was just better days of gaming fun with friends.
@bjy128
@bjy128 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for making it. It's interesting seeing the closeup of the Atari Star Wars Color XY CRT, the addition of color is cool but the vectors do become jagged due to the shadow mask (I think). Most of the VecFevers also allow for a serial connection to a computer. The computer can run VecMAME and use the vectrex as a display. This can allow for a larger library of games to play and better sound and speech.
@johnrehwinkel7241
@johnrehwinkel7241 2 жыл бұрын
The Vectrex 3D imager offers color without the jaggies as well as 3D with rotating shutters in the goggles. It worked, but just barely.
@five-toedslothbear4051
@five-toedslothbear4051 2 жыл бұрын
When I was young, and a student at Northwestern University, I was lucky enough to be playing the Star Wars cockpit cabinet at the student union. My goodness that was a lot of fun.
@timmers5095
@timmers5095 2 жыл бұрын
We had Dark Tower when I was little. It seemed amazing at the time, and now I want to go digging into that little bit of gaming history. The Vectrex sadly was too expensive for us, but I think it went on the Christmas list more in hope than expectation.
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave 2 жыл бұрын
I remember getting it for Christmas one year.
@lbjon8469
@lbjon8469 2 жыл бұрын
Dark Tower has been reimagined with a full modern update. If you played it as a kid, check out the new version.
@BrianRRenfro
@BrianRRenfro 2 жыл бұрын
I just want someone to love me the way the demoscene loved rotoscoped animation.
@GrantMeStrength
@GrantMeStrength 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a Vectrex for a while, and it was amazing to see the original game ROMs of Star Wars and Battlezone running.. "There's no way the 6809 could do that!", I thought. And I was right: The VecFever has its own CPU. I think you might imply in the video that the VecFever uses the 6809 but the PiTrex uses the Pi's CPU. That's not the case - both the VecFever and PiTrex sidestep the 6809 and use their own CPUs, but interface with the display, sound and joysticks.
@ironhead2008
@ironhead2008 2 жыл бұрын
That makes more sense. The VecFever is a ARM based system as well, I take it (likely in a FPGA form)?
@MrRezRising
@MrRezRising 2 жыл бұрын
That Star Wars game is the reason I have to invert my Y axis in every game now. It just stuck with me. Great memories. 🤠🤘
@ThisSteveGuy
@ThisSteveGuy 2 жыл бұрын
1:38 - My Vectrex doesn't have the Milton Bradley branding, instead it's from GCE (General Consumer Electronics) and has it own distinctive logo. I believe that the MB Vectrexes (Vectri?) were a later version.
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 2 жыл бұрын
That's right (there's a caption in the video about this) - very early models were GCE and it was quickly bought out by MB
@FluffyTheGryphon
@FluffyTheGryphon 2 жыл бұрын
They were a licensed distributor in different countries. Nintendo used Mattel for the same sort of thing in places like Canada. I have a Mattel distro NES and some games.
@CptJistuce
@CptJistuce 2 жыл бұрын
@@FluffyTheGryphon My understanding is that they weren't a licensed distributor in this case, they literally bought GCE. There was a sublicensed distributor in Japan, however. The Bandai Vectrex is highly coveted by Vectrex collectors.
@edlowry1
@edlowry1 2 жыл бұрын
Tenpence controller looks great by the mighty Victor Marland. Those demos are awesome , need to give my Vectrex a cap kit
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Oi!!!! That's MY VECTREX!!!!!!
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Oi!!!! That's MY SCRAMBLE CART!!!!!!
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Oi!!!! That's MY REGULAR MULTICART!!!!!!
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that's NOT my VecFever hahah!
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff 2 жыл бұрын
This video was excellent!
@andycraig7734
@andycraig7734 2 жыл бұрын
Careful. When he puts on the black gloves, anything could happen!
@willierants5880
@willierants5880 2 жыл бұрын
The Vectrex was my 2nd console growing up. My first was an Atari 2600. The Vectrex is the only one I still have, in box with all my games in box. It was and is a fantastic system. So glad the community is still going strong. I need to recap mine and there's a bit of a dot on the screen.
@povilasstaniulis9484
@povilasstaniulis9484 2 жыл бұрын
A really unique console released at the worst possible time, during the US video game crash. Thanks for the video. That fever cartridge is something else...
@kennethfharkin
@kennethfharkin 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I see a Vectrex video I cry that my mom put my old unit to the curb about 15 years ago. I cannot count how many hours I played on this system.
@tesseracht
@tesseracht 2 жыл бұрын
A neighbor of mine had a Vectrex when we were kids and it was pretty fun. The acetate overlays did a surprisingly good job of making the games more colorful.
@runcmd8851
@runcmd8851 2 жыл бұрын
So cool.. I remember my friends brother having one of these in the early 90s and i was very interested in it rather than my mates master system lol
@brianring5836
@brianring5836 2 жыл бұрын
My uncle had the Dark Tower game, and every time we visited him we played it. So much fun!!!
@PeteJohnson1471
@PeteJohnson1471 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, the Vectrex Demo scene clip was awesome. It fascinates me what clever geeky people manage to squeeze out of so little 🙂
@scoobylol1987
@scoobylol1987 2 жыл бұрын
There's a great playable console display on at the Museum of Science and Industry at the moment in Manchester. Everything from a Pong clone, to 8-bit micro, 16 and 32 bit stuff, all the way through to modern consoles and VR headsets... but despite all that the thing that had me hooked for about an hour was the little Vectrex. It's the most charming, fun little thing. I'd love to own one!
@billkeithchannel
@billkeithchannel 2 жыл бұрын
I adore the Vectrex engine created for Mumbo Jumbo's Luxor Evolved. Fantastic version. I hope they release a 10th anniversary edition since that game came out in 2012.
@ancipital
@ancipital 2 жыл бұрын
Who knew! A demoscene for the vectrex - I remember playing with one when they came out, never owned one as couldn't afford it. Fantastic video and I was eyeing up all the little retro goodies you have in the background including the Oric that flashed past!
@terrytoland2543
@terrytoland2543 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a Dark Tower review!! I borrowed this from a friend in the 80s and it blew my mind-way ahead of its time. The new one is arguably much better, but I still prefer the original artwork.
@anthonysmith8178
@anthonysmith8178 2 жыл бұрын
Omg, I had a vectrex and dark tower. Flood of childhood memories. Thank you!
@paulb4uk
@paulb4uk 2 жыл бұрын
Superb bit of kit i have never used a vectrex or had an experience of one in person a cool device .
@johncamp8520
@johncamp8520 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I always dreamed of having a Vectrex but now I want one even more. Star Wars and Battlezone were two of my arcade favourites as a kid and they look amazing on this brilliant little console.
@trublgrl
@trublgrl 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that amazing Star Wars game. Actually, the movie theater I used to go to had the Return of the Jedi version for ages. I hope you realize that when Obi-Wan says "Use the Force, Luke," if you don't use your lasersjust avoid being hit and only fire torpedos when you get to the exhaust port, you get a huge bonus!
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