Check out the bonus video on Nebula, after you are done this one! Crayoning is my passion nebula.tv/videos/rmtransit-levelling-up-bostons-rapid-transit-network Special thanks to Marc Ebuña for helping with the script of this video!
@LouisChang-le7xo6 ай бұрын
How did you even make those emoji picture things of your face small enough we cant see your face without zooming in enough to make it pixelated? At first it creeped me out.
@GhostPro786 ай бұрын
SEPTA NEXT??? :)
@Hurricane2k86 ай бұрын
Hey Reece, I'd love to sign up for Nebula, but like many other people over here in Germany/Europe, I don't have a credit card, which means I have no way to actually subscribe to the service (no, my debit card doesn't work for this). It would be great if Nebula would introduce additional payment options such as PayPal (or even plain and simple SEPA bank transactions or SEPA direct debit for us Europeans), because right now people with no credit card are basically excluded from accessing Nebula.
@eriklakeland38576 ай бұрын
Boston would be uniquely suited to an orbital route among U.S. cities due to it being more polycentric. Connections with rapid rail transit between the airport, Cambridge, Somerville, Longwood Medical Area, the Seaport District without going downtown would be a game changer.
@InternetKilledTV216 ай бұрын
Agreed. It would remove the need to go downtown for trips that use multiple lines. It would mean walking stops competing with taking the T for most trips. Definitely needs to be a pink line.
@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes456 ай бұрын
I also support the creation of this hypothetical "pink line"
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio6 ай бұрын
They used to have big plans for this on their web site, including a BRT ring of which some would eventually be converted to light rail or rapid transit, but all those plans quietly disappeared back in the 2010s. The only expansions they ever do are the ones they are dragged into kicking and screaming (or at least fidgeting and whining).
@MattMcIrvin6 ай бұрын
@@Lucius_Chiaraviglio These ideas go back at least a hundred years and somehow never get close to realization. A few scraps of the BRT ring survived as portions of the Silver Line.
@vessbakalov89586 ай бұрын
Yes. Going from Brookline to Cambridge ( Boston U to Harvard )which are somewhat adjacent - separated by a river with plenty of bridges - requires an hour trip into downtown. You can walk it in half the time.
@staycgirlsitsgoingdown26 ай бұрын
2 interesting things about the D branch: It actually used to straight up be a heavy rail branch! It was converted from a commuter rail line in the 60s At Brookline Hills it runs through a high school! (as it, it literally cuts through the middle of and has a stop poking out of one of the buildings). It’s also got some excellent TOD at this station as a huge amount of the students at that school use that stop to get around, and it was recently renovated with the school!
@NickBurman6 ай бұрын
The Riverside Line was a former Boston & Albany (New York Central) branch.
@CraigFThompson6 ай бұрын
@@staycgirlsitsgoingdown2 Damn; Boston is one helluva cultured city! Most rapid transit systems don’t have stations even in COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES; Boston has one inside a HIGH SCHOOL?! Classiest way to go to class!!
@RMTransit6 ай бұрын
The over line construction is very fun to look at
@auggieeastАй бұрын
@@CraigFThompson They built the high school rather recently over the tracks next to a station.
@jamesorlando81786 ай бұрын
As a transit nerd, studying at Northeastern was a dream because I could look out the window and see rapid transit, light rail, commuter rail, NE regional, and Acela trains passing through the campus
@chris44846 ай бұрын
I love being a Northeastern student for the same reason!!
@RMTransit6 ай бұрын
It's a dream indeed, Boston is great for universities and transit, if you are a student who likes transit its hard to go wrong!
@chris44846 ай бұрын
Having both the Green Line and the Orange Line right on campus is so convenient and honestly such a flex compared to most other US universities
@burstintotreats66546 ай бұрын
I think Northeastern was the most urban non-NYC university in a classic City Nerd video
@pantheon9006 ай бұрын
trivia:some of classes are teached by MBTA official in NEU
@KentoNishi6 ай бұрын
Finally! I've been living in Boston (well, Cambridge) for the past few years and have grown to love this city. Been waiting for this video for a long long time!
@WillTheTrainFan6 ай бұрын
Lived in Cambridge my entire life and I also love this city/metro area
@RMTransit6 ай бұрын
I hope it was worth the wait!
@emily59026 ай бұрын
Me too! And I’m glad my spouse was able to contribute to it.
@Col_Crunch6 ай бұрын
Park St and Downtown Crossing are actually connected underground. You can fully walk between the two without ever going above ground.
@tylerquebedeaux18676 ай бұрын
One thing the video missed: there is a free shuttle service that runs between Airport on the Blue Line and all of Logan's terminals... so no one actually walks (which is good, because most of the route is blocked by freeways)
@MattMcIrvin6 ай бұрын
It takes a while to make that connection though. What impresses me more is that the Silver Line now does the same loop with a connection straight to South Station through the Ted Williams Tunnel--and the outbound ride to South Station is free and even gets you a fare-free transfer to the subway, so they're effectively spotting you a free one-way subway ride. As frustrating as the development of the Silver Line has been, that's one of its nicest features. I wish it had existed when I was in grad school and living car-free in Cambridge.
@RMTransit6 ай бұрын
I was being facetious about walking, a free shuttle is expected!
@zionorent6 ай бұрын
Bringing the Blue Line to Charles MGH would provide a serious alternative for going to the airport for those of us living north on the Red Line. If there's traffic in the tunnel, we'd definitely use the Blue Line instead. To do this today we'd go to Park St., switch to the Green Line for 1 stop, and then the Blue Line. We did this last summer during the Sumner Tunnel closure and it went much faster than expected. The Green Line trains are pretty frequent. Glad there was a note on the potential Blue Line extension in the video.
@rockstc9556 ай бұрын
last time i took the shuttle it dropped me off across from the blue line station over this giant freeway access road and i had to run for my life with my luggage to cross this high speed road. The cherry on the cake is that they have underfunded the subway for so long that i had to wait 15 mins for my train after that. Thanks Governor and MA legislators!
@JohnNeville6176 ай бұрын
Every time I take that shuttle I regret not walking with luggage.
@LiteBulb886 ай бұрын
I lived in Boston for over a decade without a car (a little bit in Allston but mostly in the South End), and here are some of my wishes for the MBTA system: 1. The North-South link. It's inexcusable that after all this time, there's no direct way to get from North Station to South Station (or vice versa.) 2. A subway line that doesn't go downtown. One of the biggest weaknesses of the the T's rail network is that all lines go to/from downtown, so if you want to go (for example) from Fenway Park to Harvard, you either have to go all the way downtown and back out or take a bus. I would love to see a line along Mass Ave. that starts at either Harvard or Central Square and goes south along (or below) Mass Ave. through MIT, the west end of the Back Bay neighborhood, and into the South End from there. Right now, bus 1 takes that route and it is packed at all times of day, 7 days a week. 3. That they could give back the debt they were forced to take on from the Big Dig. They gained nothing from those loans which they didn't get a penny from and that debt cripples them so much. And now for some fun facts about how each line got its name: Red Line: initially ended at Harvard, whose primary color is crimson Blue Line: Goes under the Boston Harbor Green Line: The D branch goes through a series of parks just west of Fenway known as the Emerald Necklace. Orange Line: The stretch of Washington St. it goes under in the downtown area used to be called Orange Street. Silver Line: What's now called the SL5 was the first silver line branch to be built, and it replaced the Orange Line. When the MBTA rerouted the Orange Line in the late 1980s, they promised South End residents a replacement that was as good as the Orange Line. The solution was a bus "rapid" transit which is nowhere near as good as a subway line. Since it was only a second best solution, they called it the Silver Line 😛.
@DDELE76 ай бұрын
That’s cool. But I can add to that story about the Silver Line. Apparently in later years the T explained its choice of Silver for their BRT network in honor of Logan Airports chrome and metallic exterior throughout much of its Airline Terminals.
@safuu2026 ай бұрын
The Orange Line *used to* go along Washington St when the Washington St Elevated was still around. It no longer does so bc the eL was torn down in 1987 and has been relegated to the SW Corridor since then.
@1978dkelly6 ай бұрын
They also called it the “Silver *Lie*” since they did a bait and switch and gave them buses instead of rail.
@1978dkelly6 ай бұрын
In regard to the North-South link, that was supposed to be down as part of the Big Dig, but as the cost of that project ballooned to ridiculous levels, it was dropped. Of course, the highway portion was finished, because cars.
@DDELE76 ай бұрын
@@1978dkellywell the Silver Line could be improved with more dedicated busways like you have on the SL3 in Chelsea and traffic priority signaling. Also building a new portal Downtown to unify the Waterfront and Washington Street branches of the Silver Line for a one seat ride between Nubian and Logan Airport. While they’re are it replace the roadways in the underground busway cause the ride is rather bumpy.
@critiqueofthegothgf6 ай бұрын
finally a transit YT-er covering Boston. it's always either entirely overlooked or barely mentioned and it's so unfortunate because it's top 10 in terms of US urbanism
@thomasburke11286 ай бұрын
The T was one of the main reasons I chose to move to Boston. Been here for 3+ years without a car and I will say that it may not be perfect, but it is sufficient. The more I know about transit the more I believe there is serious potential here. Anyway great video.
@RMTransit6 ай бұрын
Absolutely enormous potential!
@aldoblack59825 ай бұрын
I've lived in Boston since 2017. Before COVID the T was much better that it is today. Rarely delays and I did not need a car. After that, it became so bad that I had to get a car.
@JacobMoretti-NotABot6 ай бұрын
The congestion in the Green Line tunnels around Copley is maddening.
@theaveragejoe57816 ай бұрын
@@JacobMoretti-NotABot congestion due to train traffic?
@takeyb0y26 ай бұрын
@@theaveragejoe5781 It's where 4 different branches all converge into a single track. I can imagine lineups could end up forming there.
@theaveragejoe57816 ай бұрын
@@takeyb0y2 I see. And a solution is probably unlikely because of the cost of tunneling :/
@skyerflume59486 ай бұрын
The green line frequencies in the main tunnel is soooooo congested
@JacobMoretti-NotABot6 ай бұрын
@@theaveragejoe5781 There have been talks for decades for a ring line linking all the spokes of the system. I think most proposals had it going through Kenmore where three of the branches merge, and that’d help divert some of the ridership. but the Big Dig sucked up all funding for a generation, and I’m sure the huge cost overruns on the Green Line Extension don’t help either.
@ottertechnology24 күн бұрын
18:09 As of yesterday no more slow zones on the MBTA system.
@ericbruun90206 ай бұрын
obsession with battery electric buses instead of service increases deserves an episode
@kablaster4496 ай бұрын
Also worth mentioning that the MBTA is planning on using battery electric trains for the commuter rail. This makes absolutely zero sense, especially because the providence-stoughton line runs entirely along the electrified NEC other than a couple of miles and still runs diesel trains. Adding in that the MBTA needs to replace some of their older locomotives this is a no brainer.
@ericbruun90206 ай бұрын
@@kablaster449 closing down trolley buses and replacing with batteries makes zero sense too
@ari-jv4 ай бұрын
Too much pollution
@kablaster4494 ай бұрын
@@ari-jv battery electric buses are generally the worst offenders when it comes to pollution. Having good quality bus service is one of those things that gets people out of their cars and on to public transit. If an agency invests in battery electric buses, they are most likely quite expensive. This is definitely the case for the mbta as they are quite underfunded. With worse bus service comes less people riding the bus and more people in their cars, which worsens pollution much more than 1 diesel bus or especially trackless trolley potentially taking a good 50 cars off the road.
@caeliachapin53176 ай бұрын
Worth noting: in addition to regional rail, North Station is also served by Amtrak trains to Portland, Maine.
@MattMcIrvin6 ай бұрын
But it's disconnected from the rest of the Amtrak network, which is profoundly frustrating (if there were a North-South link there could be trains to New York City from my neighborhood).
@caeliachapin53176 ай бұрын
@@MattMcIrvin Quite true, but I don't see how it could be done. I haven't been around Boston for some years, but after the ordeal of the Big Dig, I can't imagine anyone wants to build more tunnels through downtown.
@CraigFThompson6 ай бұрын
@@caeliachapin5317 It IS difficult to imagine; however, once it’s considered that rail lines consume much less space than stuperhighways, tunneling shouldn’t be too much trouble.
@calebsnyderdicesare30266 ай бұрын
As someone who's been a bit more critical of your takes on Boston's transit, I have to say you did a great job of highlighting the city's strengths and weaknesses here! Definitely going to check out that nebula video!
@Marg0Pol06 ай бұрын
So excited you finally covered the T and other systems part of the MBTA and our other services
@RMTransit6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@VerdigrisTrees6 ай бұрын
13:26 the "suburban" stations being served by the RL in the north are actually very dense squares, definitely more urban than suburban. The terminal station in the north is a massive park and ride with new apartment and tech developments around it, too.
@lizcademy48096 ай бұрын
Agreed ... if the budget and infrastructure allows, extending the Red Line to North Waltham / Lexington would pull in a f-ton more riders.
@RMTransit6 ай бұрын
I am not saying they are "suburban" because they are low density, but because they are rather outlying
@christopherbunnell88826 ай бұрын
I’m very confident the MBTA is on track to remove all it’s slow zones by the end of the year. It’s still a work in progress, but GM Eng’s leadership has been magnificent and is putting the system on a much better path compared to previous administrations
@arielioffe18104 ай бұрын
yes!
@andrew_ray6 ай бұрын
The reason for the offset Orange Line platforms is a bit funny. Local merchants in Boston were concerned that if people didn't have to walk along the surface streets to get to the train, they wouldn't go to their stores. So the solution was to have a long series of disconnected one-way stations so that everybody would have to walk along the street either on the way in or on the way out, because the northbound and southbound stations weren't colocated. MTA (as it was at the time) put in a fairly impressive effort in the 50's to join up these one-way stations in pairs to create the stations we have now.
@MattMcIrvin6 ай бұрын
State station is like a baffling underground labyrinth because it's such an assemblage of conjoined stations that were originally separate.
@badhomwork35856 ай бұрын
Why would store owners get to decide station design?
@andrew_ray6 ай бұрын
@@badhomwork3585 There are two reasons. First, at the time the Orange Line tunnel (then called the "Main Line") was being constructed, there was a protectionist racket going on in the city where the politicians were in the pockets of the business owners. Second, recall that BERy, Boston Electric Railways, which was building the line, was itself a private business, so it would have been sympathetic to other business's concerns anyways.
@skyerflume59486 ай бұрын
The alignment of the orange line stations of Chinatown and downtown crossing is so weird and state is even weirder
@thebobs73856 ай бұрын
There is yet another reason for the offsets. Washington Street is very narrow and there wasn't enough room to have 2 tracks and 2 platforms across from each other at all stations. At State Street, for example, the northbound Orange Line actually dives under the southbound platform.
@lachlanmcgowan57126 ай бұрын
You completely forgot to mention one of the Boston transit system's most unique features: It's the only public transport system in the world with its own ghost! The system is haunted by the ghost of a man named Charlie, who boarded a train and was never able to disembark because of the introduction of exit fares at stations. The fare card for the system is called the CharlieCard in a tribute to the ghost! (Actually, Charlie comes from a song that was commissioned by a mayoral candidate, Walter A O'Brien, who had an anti-exit-fare position as part of his platform, but I'm pretty sure that most Boston people believe in the ghost because having an official public transport ghost is very funny)
@aamiri76666 ай бұрын
MIT is pretty much in Kendall Square, the station is even called Kendall/MIT so that’s the only correction I’d make here, since you placed it around Central Square. Great video!
@TheBeagle586 ай бұрын
In my home city for a change, we certainly need more trains. traffic is maddening here. electrification of the commuter lines would also go a long way here. nice video.
@emmae116856 ай бұрын
hearing you repeatedly call the longwood medical area "harvard's boston campus" was the weirdest part of this video
@KiingOfFlipz6 ай бұрын
Born and raised here in Boston. Recently moved to Revere. Makes me happy to see that you have hope for my home transit system and that you took the time to cover it.
@himbourbanist6 ай бұрын
the Green Line is really damn cool. it's basically a rapid transit system on its own. it's bigger than most entire streetcar or light rail systems in other cities in the US. Very versatile system overall
@CraigFThompson6 ай бұрын
@@himbourbanist Second only to the “A” line in Los Angeles….
@BadUsername216 ай бұрын
North Station’s cross platform transfer is another nice feature, like the Spanish solution platforms at Park St.
@arielioffe18104 ай бұрын
Yay! We’re finally getting some new and well-deserved good press for the enormous amount of recent work!
@davidmaltzan71346 ай бұрын
Nice video! Nit: you put the “Harvard Boston” label in the Longwood Medical Area, which is not totally false since Harvard Medical School is there, but generally when people talk about Harvard’s campus in Boston they are referring to the much larger Allston campus which is home to Harvard Business School and a whole bunch more stuff. That would also be home to the proposed West Station
@GojiMet866 ай бұрын
It was crazy hearing the MBTA (pressured by Harvard) chose to replace their ELECTRIC trolley buses......lemme repeat......ELECTRIC!!!......with diesel buses......with the hope than in the future they would in turn be replaced with battery electrics. Fellas, electric is electric! It was such a boneheaded move to tear down perfectly functioning electric bus infrastructure. Literally a step backwards. Moscow did a very similar thing, tearing down their perfectly functioning electric trolleybus system.
@MrStark-up6fi6 ай бұрын
Also, trolley buses work so much better than battery buses. Huge downgrade basically
@MissingBoxcar6 ай бұрын
Reece, I heavily appreciate your video, as there hasnt been a whole lot of coverage of our transit network. There are a couple things you overlooked however. The first is that Massport runs a very frequent shuttle bus between Airport and various destinations around the Airport area. The other is the Blue Line door open buttons, these buttons are functional at all stops of the Blue Line. (Source, was almost late to work one winter because the operator didnt open the door)
@Legonatic6 ай бұрын
Important to note is the shuttles at Airport station are all free!
@RMTransit6 ай бұрын
An airport shuttle is basically just table stakes, and those exist at every major airport! The fact that you have to take one instead of being able to get there easily from the train is not great, and not up to the standards of other major airports in the US where the rail goes (more or less) directly to the terminal, such as Chicago, DC, and Atlanta.
@MattMcIrvin6 ай бұрын
@@RMTransit At least the Silver Line buses go directly into the airport loop, and actually waive fares for the ride out, including free transfer to the Red Line (this still amazes me). Currently, it seems like for many riders that's a better connection to the subway than Airport station. I would have made great use of it when I lived on the Red Line.
@oscarsmith39426 ай бұрын
@@MattMcIrvin yes, but otoh, the Silver line only comes ~every 20 minutes (at least late at night) and then proceeds to make 10 stops that no one ever uses (including two stops at the same building)
@shaunganley6 ай бұрын
As someone who transits to the airport a fair bit, the shuttles are messy at best. Buses not timed with train departures, that will stop at the rental car center and sit for so long, everyday riders just get off and walk to the next bus, overcrowding to the extreme between terminals during peak times -- and the ability to become gridlocked when the tunnel to Boston gets backed up, because cars have nowhere to go. A people mover is desperately needed to seamlessly connect with the airport station.
@bacondoesthings1236 ай бұрын
The MBTA NEEDS TO CARE MORE ABOUT THE T!! the issues with the slow zones, 2 disconnected terminal stations and acquisition of rolling stock have to be solved as soon as possible.
@PhilliesNostalgia6 ай бұрын
London has a whole load of disconnected terminal stations, in which getting from say St Pancras to Victoria may not be easy, but they seem to be fine. But it could enable potentially 65%+ of the T-commuter rail being electrified, and the NEC subsuming the Downeaster, maybe even electrifying it. But that’s at least 10-15, probably more years down the road, and a good few billion $
@MarioFanGamer6596 ай бұрын
@@PhilliesNostalgia I think what makes Boston different is how egregious the current termini are (in that there are only two of them, placed on the opposite ends) whereas London has many of them which makes connecting them all up a bit more difficult (and the only US city which is comparable like that is Chicago). Notice that other cities did manage to reduce multiple termini with through service of regional and intercity lines, some like Berlin even down to zero.
@secretagentcat6 ай бұрын
group up and hold your council accountable, stop letting nimbys ruin our country.
@Col_Crunch6 ай бұрын
I think the MBTA its self cares, but the state doesn't seem interested in funding them properly, and on a few occasions has dumped a lot of debt in their laps basically cause it was convenient.
@Col_Crunch6 ай бұрын
@@secretagentcat Boston City Council is not the entity that needs more accountability when it comes to the T. Sure, there is some nimbyism there, but the main issues the MBTA faces are at the state level. NIMBYism is irrelevant if they don't have the money to do anything in the first place.
@eggballo44906 ай бұрын
Boston really needs to bring back the Green Line A Branch.
@DougWinfield6 ай бұрын
I do remember how nightmarishly slow that last streetcar leg could be.
@purplelord85313 ай бұрын
the T is in such a bad condition, yet when I ride it, I can't help but be amazed. as a student without a car, *any* transit is awesome (especially because I always have work to do on the ride)
@mcmann71496 ай бұрын
My experience with “The T” was when I visited Boston back in 2014. I was taking it with my family after going to a Red Sox game and the lights in the train just started flickering but no one local was really worried about it. My mother had lived in Boston for a bit and she had said that the trains hadn’t been updated since she left.
@jclow6 ай бұрын
That is likely due to the train going from one set of power lines to another (they are isolated so that one issue / track maintenance doesn’t take out the whole line). If so, then yeah, that is 100% expected and normal.
@dalmationblack6 ай бұрын
its a decently common experience riding the green line that it'll suddenly stop in the middle of the tunnel and they'll restart the whole train (the lights go off and everything) before continuing on
@absolutezeronow79286 ай бұрын
Glad you mentioned the potential Blue to Red Connector, which might happen this decade. Sorry, I'm not joining Nebula so other interesting video stuck on a platform I'll never use is annoying. It's always nice to see Boston get a spotlight video though.
@Patrick618046 ай бұрын
Nebula is awesome thought I wouldn’t use it but it’s cool
@RMTransit6 ай бұрын
It might, if Boston addresses its cost problems!
@EdwardM-t8p6 ай бұрын
@@RMTransit Boston's cost problems are unique to and common with the rest of the USA and can only be solved through new federal laws. The fact that the rest of the White English speaking countries have similar problems is not encouraging.
@BadUsername216 ай бұрын
@@RMTransitThey decided on cut and cover the Red-Blue connector which is a good sign their cost control is moving in the right direction. However the state still won’t properly fund the operating budget, or make investments in capital expansion. Only reason GLX happened is because they were sued to mitigate the emissions of the Big Dig.
@MrMannyfresh786 ай бұрын
It’s crazy how similar Boston and Philly’s transportation system are.
@cloudkitt6 ай бұрын
Makes me look forward to that video :P (I know he covered just the trolleys a little while ago.)
@ricequackers6 ай бұрын
I have nice memories of visiting Boston in 2000 when I was 11 or so. Even back then the T felt really old but in a charming way (the safety and reliability problems hadn't yet come to a head). Copley was and likely still is a congested stations with eastbound trains backing up. And all of the locals were complaining about the Big Dig, or Big Pig as they called it due to the exorbitant cost. The various locales being named after English towns was also oddly comforting, seeing places like Wakefield, Reading, Haverhill and Newmarket and of course Cambridge immediately reminded me of home despite being 3000 miles away.
@mikev60466 ай бұрын
@rmtransit I'm from Boston, Born and raised. Thank you for the video and couldn't agree more with your assessment and summary. The only item you forgot was the Logan Express bus as well as the MBTA Ferry network that works in conjunction with the system.
@MrWompz6 ай бұрын
@crowmob-yo6rywhy do you care?
@mileschun1435 ай бұрын
YEAAAAH YOU FINALLY DID BOSTONNNN WOOOOOOO
@MichaelGossmann-b7u12 күн бұрын
Have watched so many of your well thought-out videos - and leaned tons. Having grown up in Germany, living in Switzerland, with relatives in Canada and a bit all over: It was really fun to see how it all stars to converge, and what the different system can learn from each other. A personal note here: Many of us have met partners while still training and studying. In lean times, that is, when we are often more dependent on collective means of transportation than later in life. There is a point to be made here about "good connections", especially in densely built cities. Godspeed!
@nafisali24346 ай бұрын
Interesting fact Boston has Americas oldest subway cars still in active service. As a Bostonian I was born here and still live here. I have written the T for a very long time. Now it was perfectly fine in the 2010's era. No delayes trains every 3-5 minutes. Now due to the pandemic stuff changed. Due to slow zones trains now operate very slow. Also due to very old train equipment aging 50+ years. Currently as of now the Red Line is the most one breaking down due to very old trains which are 50+ years old not in replacement. What the T Currently needs to do is fix slow zones and upgrate the equipment. On the video you didnt show any of the old Orange Line cars at all, those were my favorite. The reason the T selected CRRC to contruct the new orange and red line cars because the T was in near bankruptcy and low budget cause they had some issues and also chose to spent cash on the green line extension and CRRC was the lowest bidder and CRRC had no track record in the US. The original order for 152 cars numbered 1400-1551 (152) to be delivered by 2023. Well contract made in 2014 first cars delivered in 2018 as of 2024 only 114 out of 152 delivered. In which units 1400/1401 derailed at Wellington in 2021. 1450/1451 suffered a batterey failiure in 2022. Now 15 of these broke down in December 2023-January 2023. Honestly I don't like the CRRCs that much. The thing is for the interior they could have added the carpet seats like the old ones. They chose orange plastic. Also orange paint could have been added more and why no orange on the doors? For a flashback the old orange line cars were originally manufactured by the Canadian Car company Hawker Siddeley in Thunder Bay, Ontario numbered 01200-01319 (120) from 1979-1981, first ran in February 16, 1981. These were the last bostonioan trains to run on the existing Elevated which closed in 1987. Making the old ones a historical of Boston for running on the El. The old ones were one of my favorites as a kid I loved the paint scheme and the interior of wood paneling walling. Some people may criticize its ugly, but I it felt like home when seeing the interior of the old ones. Unfortunately maintenance of those cars would meet its near end. Due to heavy snow in the Boston area causing those wheels to be jammed up and runing the motors. Also disfiguring the look. In 2020 they began retiring them from Service with the new CRRCs. In July 2022 unit 01251 caught on fire at the Wellingtons bridge due to a fallen loosen metel from 01251 making contact with the 3rd rail made its last straw. On August 19, 2022 units 01226/01227 01318/01319 01286/01287 made its final trip from Oak Grove to Forest Hills. After the shutdown the T had about 66 of the new CRRC trains active on the Orange Line. No old cars were ever made a passenger trip since then. About 10 are left at Wellingtons Yard although scrappers are still Scrapping them. Usually when a subway fleet retires, usually 2 are sent to a museum where they get preserved and can be seen running. Unfortunately for the old ones the museum in Kennebunkport, Maine rejected them. Originally 01252/01253 was suppose to be preserved but was rejected and now scrapped. 01260/01261 01280/01281 01290/01291 01296/01297-01298/01299 are left at Wellington Yard awaiting to be scrapped. When these ran on the el people nicknamed these as the Orange Blossoms while many people called the 01200s serious. Now for the delivery of the Red Line, the original order was 252 cars numbered 1900-2151 (252). First arrived in 2019. As of now only 20 delivered so far and 14 in active service. The Red Line currently has the oldest subway cars in America. Theres a fleet of 76 cars numbered 01500-01523 and 01600-01651 built by Pullman Standard from 1969-1970. As of now are currently 54 years old in service first run in December 11, 1969. These cars are given the name the 01500s and 01600s serious oldest in North America running on the Red Line. The second rolling stock is the 01700-01757 (58) manufactured by UTDC from 1987-1989. The 3rd one is 01800-01885 (86) Stainless Steel cars built by Bombardier from 1993-1994. The newers ones CRRCs still in shipment. Now for the old ones from 1969 scrappers have began removing them still roughly couple sets left in active service but will be removed by Mid Summer of 2024.
@CraigFThompson6 ай бұрын
@@nafisali2434 quite an enjoyable dissertation you produced! However, I couldn’t help but note the mention of the longevity of rail vehicles as opposed to the automobile (car, BUS, and TRUCK)…. New York City (more specifically the BMT) ordered what was known as the “Standard” subway car before WW1; the cars survived in service all the way to the beginning of the Nixon administration…. DEFINITELY MUCH LONGER THAN ANY BUS!!
@RhoninFire6 ай бұрын
For someone who can articulate so much detail about the CRRC order. You made some critical mistakes and omissions in the story 1. The bidding demanded a "built in MA' requirement which likely filtered out many manufacturers. 2. The remaining bidders generally billed the cost of a new assembly plant into the bid. 3. This set CNR and CSR (the TWO Chinese companies) at an advantage as they needed to build a factory in the US if they want to sell anything in the US. 4. The bidding process followed "Lowest qualified" bidder, not just automatically accept bids as long it is the cheapest. They did evaluate bidders' historical performance and the technical specifications in the proposals. 5. This did eliminate CSR as as a candidate for their poor history and likely subpar quality in the proposal specs. 6. CNR was selected and it is notable that while they had no US presence, they have did good work in other countries. At least nothing bad enough to reasonably categorize them from other bidders like Bombardier who their bid was over twice the cost or Kawaski who was in between. 7. A year later, CSR bought out and merged with CNR. This became CRRC. And by CRRC's performance, it seems CSR's track record is the dominating trait (plus international political since 2014 has not helped either) The above clearly paints the selection was not by budgetary coercion nor did the MBTA ignored technical abilities. It anything, it was a mix of state politics and forced gambits that panned out poorly
@DisinterestedObserver4 ай бұрын
@@RhoninFireThe CRRC contract should have been terminated years ago for failure to perform but the Western Massachusetts politicians wanted to keep the few manufacturing jobs at CRRC and were never impacted by the CRRC rolling stock’s poor real world performance. In some respects, this is their revenge because the people in Western Massachusetts are an after thought to the Boston region’s politicians who act as if the next thing on the Mass Pike after RT-128 is NYC.
@NoahCGunn6 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this one!!! thank you!!!
@MervynPartin6 ай бұрын
Boston's transit is great- you don't need to rent a car if visiting. On our last trip, we made extensive use of the "T", our nearest station being Copley Square on the Green Line. We also used Commuter Rail to visit Salem and Rockport. We loved the city and the friendly, helpful people there (a complete contrast to Washington DC). It is regrettably out of print now, but the Boston subways featured in the Sci-fi novel "A Subway Named Mobius" by A. J. Deutsch- an enjoyable read if you can get hold of it.
@vagnarao50196 ай бұрын
Continue doing this for cities around the world! I'm sure tourists when travelling will find them very useful
@careplanes6 ай бұрын
BOSTON MENTIONED! LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@CraigFThompson6 ай бұрын
@@careplanes Now only if they could go 24-7-365 like New York City….
@Kennypeagler6 ай бұрын
This Is awesome. I lived and went to school in Boston for many years and it's good to see a deep dive into the transit system.
@adrianwitzburg30096 ай бұрын
Love Boston and the T. So sad to see some parts of it rumbling apart though.
@spaguettoltd.79336 ай бұрын
The ferries are wicked important here! I use the Charlestown ferry to connect from South Station to Charlestown Navy Yard every morning, via Long Wharf. You can also use the ferries to get to Eastie 😁
@Trevor-hs5km6 ай бұрын
Thank you for finally doing a Boston video and a video on how you would improve it! I think that the MBTA has been making great progress into bringing itself into a better spot and then hopefully fulfilling its expansion plans (for a hopefully reasonable cost). I personally think that the MBTA should play around with New York style express services in the central green line tunnel in a attempt to add capacity and speed to a very slow and crowded tunnel.
@EdwardM-t8p6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately one needs four tracks for express services to work; three for rush hours only express. Otherwise the express trains are delayed by the local trains.
@Trevor-hs5km6 ай бұрын
@@EdwardM-t8p I would do bypass tracks or dual island platforms at stations, but good point.
@buisels6 ай бұрын
Omg I go to college very close to Boston. After spending hundreds on getting an uber to the airport last year, I promised I would learn the unfamiliar transit system this year-and wow, a channel I respect made a video about it at the perfect time!
@NickBurman6 ай бұрын
Fun fact: the Blue Line north of approximately Airport station to the end was built using the trackbed of the Boston Revere Beach & Lynn Railroad, once upon a time the US's busiest (7 million passengers in 1914) narrow gauge (36") railroad. Built as a steam road in 1875, the road was completely double-tracked by 1903 and electrified in 1928 (on the cheap - they just stuck motors and control equipment onto the old steam coaches). However the Sumner Tunnel, the Great Depression and the collapse of the shoe industry in Lynn eroded ridership to the point that in 1939 the road called it quits. Last train ran January 27, 1940. The trackbed (excluding the section into the original East Boston ferry terminal) was bough by the Boston Elevated Railway (one of the MBTA's predecessors) in 1941 and the first section of the Blue Line extension opened in 1952. If anyone wants to see a relic of the BRB&L, head out to Pennsylvania, as a group of coaches was bought by the East Broad Top RR and is still being used in tourist service.
@expojam14736 ай бұрын
I love how the train in the thumbnail looks like it’s falling apart, which perfectly encapsulates the MBTA now 😭
@theaveragejoe57816 ай бұрын
Aww I heard it's bad 😔😔
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio6 ай бұрын
The train in the thumbnail is one of the new Orange Line trains. But having ridden one of those and seeing how cheaply made they are, I think that in a few years you will be proven right. @@theaveragejoe5781 As someone who lives here -- it's bad.
@theaveragejoe57816 ай бұрын
@crowmob-yo6ry acquaintance living there
@y0d4996 ай бұрын
@crowmob-yo6ry Would you say that Wendover's video is less than accurate?
@ProfessorPancakes4206 ай бұрын
@crowmob-yo6ry No, it's pretty bad. I live here. I avoid the T if I can help it all.
@jjkazakoff-eigen46626 ай бұрын
1:55 North Station also serves Amtrak Downeaster to Portland, ME
@SamDickinsonjazz6 ай бұрын
This was an awesome and trippy episode! I lived in Boston for a year, after growing up in Toronto and moving to Montreal after my Boston stint.
@quarringtonz2316 ай бұрын
The silver line route in seaport is the WEIRDEST and most CONFUSING transit routes I have ever seen.
@1978dkelly6 ай бұрын
It’s a consequence of US aversion to spending money on transit. They decided a new train was too expensive so they went with buses.
@EdwardM-t8p6 ай бұрын
@@1978dkelly That aversion always gets worse under Republican administrations in Washington DC
@w.cooksy4216 ай бұрын
I love Boston's transit system. The trains, the buses, the routes, and the voice of Frank Oglesby Jr. as their announcer. The only thing I can't forgive the T for is removing the Trackless Trolley lines. I agree with Reece that this could have been a moving charging route for battery-trolley buses.
@ArmandoChavez-rd1dv6 ай бұрын
Enjoy your channel immensely. Great detail and thoughtful commentary. The Silver Line brought to mind the evolving Trolebús Elevado system in the CDMX. Would greatly enjoy you dedicating an episode to it. Thanks.
@smallflame853 ай бұрын
Great video! One correction on the GLX Yard at 8:20 : there is a yard lead track that connects to the Union Sq bound track near the underpass of the flying junction, allowing trains on that line to access yhe yard, albeit through a reverse move, about 1500 ft as one other user mentioned here. There is actually a "point of no return" sign placed at a turnout in the yard warning operators that they are committed to either Medford or Union Square beyond that switch.
@smallflame853 ай бұрын
The view going under the GLX Red Bridge flying junction on the Union Square line is crazy; the track runs between two of the support columns of one of the Medford branch piers overhead.
@LucasAlmeida-dz5xh5 ай бұрын
YOU JUST MADE MY NIGHT BY RELEASING THIS THANK YOU
@Torbell6 ай бұрын
I'd really like to see your take on Dublin, Ireland's LUAS system and future commuter rail plans!
@dlahey6 ай бұрын
Great overview, and I’m saying this as a Bostonian! So you know, when you mention the orange line running along the Haverhill line, it’s pronounced “HAY-Vrill” not “haver-hill”
@hamstap856 ай бұрын
8:22 small correction: there is one active track connecting the yard to Union Square, but it joins the main line on the side going towards Union, requiring trains returning from Union to cross over and travel the "wrong way" for about 1500 ft before leaving the main line. Source: I drive those trains.
@TheMBTADog2 күн бұрын
Great documentary! That is me at 11:08!
@Jon_Nadeau_6 ай бұрын
I've lived in metro Boston my whole life, and you certainly did your homework on the history of Bostons rail system. I used to ride the orange line fairly frequently in addition to the city buses. I'm personally not a fan of the city, and I'm glad I got out of there back in 2011, but it's still nice to see they are trying to make improvements to the system. Maybe one day I'll ride those new orange line trains that were put in some years ago.
@aerolynx336 ай бұрын
Boston has a great network woth fundamentally unserious operations. My friend lives on the trolley, and it was absolute hell, even for a week. Trains come only every 20 minutes (despite high demand), and aren’t timed to meet the trolley. Slow zones were exceedingly painful, and the lack of maintenance seems to be a theme with the orange line shutdown. To top it all off, the green and blue lines have stairs into the cars, and all the commuter lines are dead-end and gas powered.
@295g2956 ай бұрын
10:25 - Philqdephia's Market-Frankford line has a loop at it's end at 69th Street - Upper Darby.
@skyerflume59486 ай бұрын
yes my home city! Thank you so much for doing a video on this! Boston is indeed old and unique despite its problems! Even though there are problems, I enjoy riding this system as a transit fan!
@glennmoyer10336 ай бұрын
The Harvard bus tunnel is a very sad story. And a loud one too. Last time I was in it was a long time ago when they ran both diesel and trolley buses, really highlighting the differences between the two and how incompatible the diesel buses are with the tunnel (and the user experience).
@fjkelley47746 ай бұрын
There was a television show in the 1970's or 80's, I think, "St Elsewhere". It used some building in Boston for exterior shots, and one was of the elevated streetcar (old PCC cars?) running by. That line subsequently went underground, and no idea what the area might look like now.
@CraigFThompson6 ай бұрын
@@fjkelley4774 Those cars appeared to be more like Orange line HEAVY RAIL cars, and NOT streetcars. There were two scenes in the series where these cars were shown in close-ups.
@fjkelley47746 ай бұрын
@@CraigFThompson Thanks, it's been quite a few years, and I had never seen too much of the Boston system (other than the PCC cars I rode to/from Fenway).
@maxpowr906 ай бұрын
Wish you covered the Commuter Rail too. There is a push to connect North and South Stations via rail, but that would involve converting the CR trains to electric from diesel. Since the CR network is disjointed, Amtrak's Downeaster is not connected to the rest of the network.
@MRZHD6 ай бұрын
I often forget about Boston! It definitely has a unique transit system.
@XrsN6 ай бұрын
you should do a video about how you came to be so knowledgeable about transit
@holographictheory15015 ай бұрын
I would have loved to hear you talk more about the commuter rail in Boston! They're actively extending it and it's a very impressive network. I personally don't have a full picture of the commuter rail systems of other cities like Chicago and DC, would love to see a comparison that includes them!
@TheCubeFox6 ай бұрын
Hello! Would you consider creating a video dedicated to Madrid’s suburban train network, known as “Renfe Cercanías”? You’ve already covered the metro system brilliantly, and I believe exploring this additional rail transport system connecting the city would be fascinating. Thank you! 😄
@GreenHornet5536 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering the MBTA, Reese. I enjoyed using the subway and trains in Boston when I lived there and it makes me feel sad that the service continues to have money "reallocated" from it by public officials. Great video. 🙂
@CraigFThompson6 ай бұрын
The actual “first subway” in the USA was in Brooklyn NY, when it was its own city. The tunnel, under Atlantic Avenue near Boerum Place, was completed in 1845. However, service lasted just a few short years. Btw, Boston’s subway was just a trolley line that was buried under Tremont Street, whereas the New York City subway was conceived as its own separate rail-based rapid transit system from the very beginning.
@thebobs73856 ай бұрын
It's true that, initially, trolley cars exclusively used the Tremont Street subway when it opened in 1897. However, beginning in 1901, and lasting up until 1909, the Main Line elevated trains also ran through those tunnels. Beginning at the Pleasant Street Portal they travelled through Boylston, Park Street, Scollay Square, Adams Square, and Haymarket Square stations, and then up the incline to North Station to continue as the Charlestown Elevated to Sullivan Square. All of these stations had high-level boarding and were the first, true, "heavy rail" subway in the Western hemisphere. Trains ran on the outer tracks between Boylston and Park Street and then also ran on the outer tracks between the North Station Portal and Scollay Square. (The tunnel section between Park Street and Scollay Square - now Government Center- was built with only 2 tracks, unfortunately.) In 1909, the parallel Washington Street tunnel opened and the Tremont Street subway returned to all-trolley usage. There are many photographs of the system as it existed at that time on the City of Boston Archive pages. A close analog is the portion of the Market-Frankford subway in Philadelphia where the trolleys are on the outside tracks and the Market Frankford line heavy rail line is in the middle tracks.
@fredglazer29136 ай бұрын
Very nice summary of the T! I grew up in the northeast suburbs of Boston and used the system (Commuter Rail, Blue and Orange lines) extensively from the late '80s to early 2000s. At the time my impression was that it worked very well, with old rolling stock being the biggest annoyance (Commuter Rail still used old Buddliner DMUs pulled by diesel locomotives into early the '90s. No A/C and windows didn't open, so ventilation was provided by opening the doors at the ends, allowing diesel fumes to pass through!) The years of underfunding and mismanagement have caught up with them, resulting in the horrendous safety and reliability problems we now see today. I agree with you that the T has potential, but I think you were generous in not mentioning the current deplorable conditions, with frequent derailments, fires, collisions, etc. You also didn't mention that the new Green Line extension to Somerville was built with sections of track misaligned, leading the 3 mph speed restrictions!
@samklibaner72526 ай бұрын
I'm actually lifelong resident of the greater Boston area (Cambridge specifically). This video is very, through there are a few things I lead about recently I'd like to mention. One is that a bunch of Greenline station have actually gone through some retrofitting, to make them more accessible to those with disabilities, and more are in the work. Also, there is a fair upgrades system in the works, it will include being about to use mobile devices and contactless credit care to pay for fairs and create a Charlie Card (Name of the transit care for the T and bus services) app, that allows to you to check your balances and load money onto it. Also, one thing I only noticed recently is there is actually and underground walkway connecting Park Street (a Green and Red Line transfer in the downtown area), to Downtown which is, and Organ/Red line stop. Besides being creating an easy transfer between the green and orange line, one inserting thing is that Downtown Crossing has underground connection to several building, near it, making the whole thing kind of like a small (emphasis on small) scale version of the Toronto Path system mentioned in other videos. There are at least a few other cases of MBTA stops that have entrances into major buildings, one of the best examples is Prudential Station that goes into the Prudential Center (a major shopping complex that is attached to several other large buildings), but Haymarket (Orange and Green line stop) has and entrance into Boston Public Guarden, and Hynes Convention center (Green line) has one into 360 Newbury Street. And those are just the ones I know off the top of my head.
@MattMcIrvin6 ай бұрын
Fans of "liminal spaces" really need to check out that underground walkway between Park Street and Downtown Crossing. There's an eerie tranquility to it.
@johnk29736 ай бұрын
Back Bay Orange Line exits to Copley Place
@kflats5 ай бұрын
11:34 did you really just say “haver-hill” 😂
@NickDaltonYT6 ай бұрын
Love the video! Wish you used some of my footage of the old type 12 rolling stock for the orange line section!
@Skippypal6 ай бұрын
There are free buses that make stops at all the airport terminals from Airport Station. Never have had to walk to the terminal. Though, I used to live so close right to the airport that I could walk to my terminal easily which was super cool.
@marsgal426 ай бұрын
Boston is a neat town. A mix of old European city and big American city. I like it. Some years ago I was at a trade show for my employers. Nobody could figure out where my hotel was until I got the pronunciation right "nooton cohnah". 😎
@brick63476 ай бұрын
I mean, London is bigger than all American cities (yes, even NYC)... but yeah, it's a pretty cool mix. Oddly, as Boston was founded in 1630 and London burned to the ground in 1666 the two cities are, for all intents and purposes, pretty much built at the same time by the same people. Which is why there's a sort of synergy I guess, at least in the older parts of the city. Boston is pretty unique.
@MrStark-up6fi6 ай бұрын
Boston is what you get if Europe had skyscrapers
@marsgal426 ай бұрын
@@MrStark-up6fi Like Frankfurt?
@MrStark-up6fi6 ай бұрын
@@marsgal42 basically
@ratedpz6 ай бұрын
Great video! You covered all the important details but still didn’t skimp out on any of the railfan details. And of course I watched this video while riding the red line, and I was happy to see that there was only one 10mph slowzone between Harvard and Field’s Corner. As you mentioned, the MBTA needs some TLC, and as someone who takes the T everyday to school, I can certainly agree. The main thing is unreliability, particularly with wait times between vehicles, which often do not reflect the schedule. Buses are often late or bunched, especially with frequent buses or buses during rush hour. Even transit with their own right-of-way gets delayed, which is very frustrating. All in all, the T is improving, but given the hundreds of systemic problems, it can’t go fast enough. We need a North-South station connector, more electrification, removal of all slow-zones, much better transit priority, and better reliability overall.
@rebeccawinter4726 ай бұрын
Really looking forward to your take on the MBTA Regional Rail network. I have looked at that system, and their proposed expansions. Next to GO, they probably have the most ambitious plan to electrify and regularize their service to make it a true “regional rail” rapid transit network - as opposed to just a collection of rush-hour only commuter rail lines. It’s nothing like, say the Chicago advocates dreamt up for METRA (see StarLiner), but still, exciting. The challenge though is that Boston as a whole has a lot of old infrastructure that needs work done. Just maintaining what they have will take a lot of work - and adding tracks to Increase capacity and electrify the existing tracks will cost a lot. A connection between N and S would be ideal to allow through running - but how to do it for less than 11 figures (10 Billion) seems hard to fathom. Do you spend there or do you focus on extensions to say, Manchester, NH and regular service to Cape Cod? Hard to say.
@mbtavideos6 ай бұрын
In the future, if you need more MBTA video content, you are welcome to use mine. Also, the Green Type 7s and PCC's are beloved and will be missed, but we need accessible cars, now.
@Trainlover19956 ай бұрын
Funny thing is, I was just in Boston. Me and my parents stayed at the SpringHill Suites in Revere Beach, which is directly adjacent to the Wonderland station at the end of the Blue Line. We took the Blue Line every day we were there.
@wyw8766 ай бұрын
10:30 @RMtransit waddaya mean, "one of the only rapid transit turning loops in North America"? The 6 line in neighboring NYC has an abandoned turning loop station under city hall that's still in use as a loop.
@RMTransit6 ай бұрын
I didn't say the only?
@LucasBrown026 ай бұрын
You should make a video explaining Melbourne's tram network.
@oliverbakker83816 ай бұрын
Love the red line
@arielioffe18104 ай бұрын
The reason why our first subway has overhead collection was because it was never designed for mass heavy transit-it was originally created when the city streets got too crowded for the streetcars and the city planners had the genius idea of just… y’know… shoving all the streetcars underground…
@RMTransit4 ай бұрын
It’s actually a very good idea! Lots of cities did it quite successfully!
@whophd6 ай бұрын
Orange line and its rolling stock has strong Glasgow Subway vibes?
@MattMcIrvin6 ай бұрын
It's much taller.
@alandpost6 ай бұрын
I live in Malden on Orange Line and we've built up the area around the station. Too bad that there isn't close to proper capacity at rush hour.
@RipCityBassWorks6 ай бұрын
It's crazy that Boston hasn't opened a new subway line in about 100 years.
@synthstatic98896 ай бұрын
@@RipCityBassWorks not many American cities have.
@2gwailo5 ай бұрын
That's not particularly true, most likes have seen expansion and whole sale rerouting.
@jdillon83605 ай бұрын
@@synthstatic9889 the entire DC metro?
@JustinSh.6 ай бұрын
"which actually has a Spanish Solution platforms" The Spanish Solution has begun in Boston, actually. This, it should be called the Bostonian Solution.
@zeighy6 ай бұрын
One interesting part of the Boston transit network is that they have the regional commuter train that connects the city of Providence to Boston as a direct regional train between two cities, and basically two states. And you can pay with the Charlie card that you can use in all of Boston's transit network. The train between Providence to Boston runs fast enough that you can reasonable commute between the two cities if you really wanted to. The connection is just a bit over an hour between the cities so, one could technically live in Providence (where housing is significantly cheaper) and take the train to work in Boston.
@f.g.94666 ай бұрын
That part of removing Bowdoin station is really weird. Why would they remove a station? It even seems like they will leave a large gap to the next one.
@JoeyLovesTrains6 ай бұрын
Before I bought my bike, I would take the silver line SL2 to work on Drydock Ave. apart from that, I take the kingston line which allows bikes during rush hour.
@Kristina_6178 күн бұрын
"Rapid transit" is kinda funny, but you'd have to live here to agree. 😂
@Kristina_6178 күн бұрын
11:30 Haverhill pronunciation: Hay-ver-hill ✖️ Hayv-rill ✔️😂 Great video 👍🏻