#roadtovalencia

[@matthewpayton]

Beautiful routines

[@Rgjudging]

If u do theorical difficulty,show how exactly her routine is planned: 0:27 she usually catch without hands in rotation 1:15 this was planned to be without hands in rotation too 2:04 last rotation looks like different shape than other 3 so change of axis too 2:34 catch planned without vision 3.08 planned 360 3:27 planned rethrow 3:42 planned rethrow

[@saem_rg]

i was actually waiting for your comment, in the usual bad attitude you show when write/reply even below your own videos 😉 change of axis is not given when the rotation "looks different in shape". check out the meaning of rotational axis and you'll be able to score R properly. i haven't been following all competitions through the year, so i don't know what is usual for each exercise. i just gave everything i saw in these exercises at the WC as valid, this is the meaning of "theoretical" for me

[@Rgjudging]

@@saem_rg i wasn’t rude at all and didn’t wanted to look like that,i just wanted to say that on those videos she didn’t showed her maximum difficulty

[@amandinesouilleux1497]

Nice to resume working on individuals now! A few comments on my side: Hoop 0:49 the hop between both pivot forms makes the combined BD invalid, I think. Only the 1st form would probably count and here, only 1 turn is valid 0:52 I think we cannot award the criterion "without hand" as the bounce is on the forearm. However the AD is still valid as with 2 bases, only 1 criterion is necessary and BD is good Clubs 3:26 I would have counted only the first 2 rotations as there is a chassé between 2nd and 3rd. As the throw is on the first rotation, it makes the R invalid 3:38 are we allowed to count multiple times the same criterion on a R? 4:22 the catch is before the BD is fixed... making it invalid 4:24 rotation criterion cannot be awarded as rotation is not 360deg. Still valid thanks to the 2 other criteria, though

[@saem_rg]

hello! yes, it's RGI's turn now! 😂 0:49 can you really see from that distance/camera angle? you are an eagle! haha 0:52 yes, i agree with you! my mistake here! 3:26 R with three illusions DB is a special R though, doesn't work like any R where we necessarily need two rotations below the flight! 3:38 yes, criteria are given each time for each club in a cascade throw. thank you, like always!

[@amandinesouilleux1497]

@saem_rg for the illusions R, I agree it is an exception but it works only if the 3 rotations are correctly chained. You can have 1 rotation with throw, 1 rotation under flight, 1 rotation on catch. However, if there is an interruption (like 3 steps between 2 rotations like a chassé), you stop counting the rotations. In this case, you have 1 rotation on throw, 1 rotation under flight and that's it. And this R format cannot be valid The exception with the illusions or jeté manège is very lucrative but very dangerous at the same time :)

[@PhilMielenz]

Hi again, thanks for the video. At 4:28 Boryana performs an uneven throw, wich you correctly graded as throw of two unlocked clubs with minimum 360 degree rotation and awarded 0.3, but before she catches the club she threw with her left hand, she throws the right hand club once more outside the visual field and during the same rotation. Hence why I would award her 0.4 for combined DA (throw of two unlocked clubs + small throw of one club, both DA outside the visual field and during a rotation with the rotation criterion being the "overlap"; thus 0.3 + 0.1 for combined DA) Do you see what I mean? What dou you think? Looking forward to your comment.

[@saem_rg]

hello! i see what you mean, but there is a mistake in your logic: combination of two DA with consequent increase of the score of that DA happens ONLY in the case of two Bases one of which is a catch from a high throw. In all other cases we cannot have any bonus for combining DAs, like you explained in your example. In that case it's not even 0.3 + 0.2 because she is using the same rotational element to re-throw the first Club. The one at 4:28 is considered a single action (1 DA 0.3), not two DA on the same rotation 😊 hope my explanation answers your question 😁

[@PhilMielenz]

@@saem_rg Thank you! That explains it. I missed out on the fact, that one base has to be a catch from a high throw.

[@mariesargymnast4912]

Hey there. Thanks for making these videos. I'm using it to study since I'm judging at a competition this weekend. But I have a few questions with her clubs routine. At 4:31 she does the same balance and squeezes two DAs in there. Although I don't think the second one is valid because you marked it as small throws under the leg in DB but I would definitely not count that as under the leg. Do you agree? And then also at 4:34 you gave a 0.3 DA there for the fouette balance but it should be 0.2 because she is throwing one club and not two. This downgrades the value. And then I have a question, she does like 2 DAs both in those half illusion turn things. Is that actually valid? She can't use the same movement twice in two DAs? Or is the one counted as illusion and the other one as rotation? Thanks so much

[@saem_rg]

hello! glad you are finding my videos useful! 🥰 4:31 - she is extremely fast (=0.3 deduction for Balance shape not held long enough) in performing a front split with trunk upright (0.4) with DA mills and after that a front split with trunk at horizontal (0.5) with DA small throw of two clubs, which i think is not very clearly performed under the leg, yes, but i guess it could receive 'no visual' since it's a handling performed on the opposite side of the body, like it's written in CoP. we then have a CBD 0.9 Balance + Balance; 4:34 - again, if you look more carefully, she throws one club under the leg during fouetté, while the other club is still thrown on the horizontal plane in the other hand, so both clubs have a 360 degrees rotation, meaning it's a 0.3 DA and not a 0.2. Not necessary to have criteria on both clubs, one is enough (the one flying under the leg during the Balance) about the illusion DA: can you please indicate the minute where they happen? thank you!

[@mariesargymnast4912]

The first illusion DA is at 4:23, the second one is at 4:53

[@mariesargymnast4912]

Ahh I see. Does handling opposite the body still count as without sight?

[@saem_rg]

@@mariesargymnast4912 see the pictures at page 47 of CoP with the examples of 'no visual', there is portrayed a stylized pic of a front split with trunk at hor. the opposite side of the leg is valid for 'no visual'

[@saem_rg]

​@@mariesargymnast4912about these two illusions, you may be right, i hadn't noticed this repetition, even if the first one doesn't look like a complete proper illusion-like rotation 😊

[@kristina__kul]

🫂🤟🐯

[@karina2106]

3:44 Why only 2 attitudes pivots? I think she does 3 in all exercises

[@saem_rg]

her combo is actually 2 turns attitude + 1 side split... check out my latest video on how to count turns in Rotation DB to make sure you count turns properly, in a 'rg' way 😉

[@karina2106]

@@saem_rg thank you😊

[@seancato7248]

Does the risk count towards one of the 20 DAs? In her 1st hoop risk, she did 3 rotations of the same kind under the apparatus, should she be awarded a series bonus?

[@saem_rg]

no, R is part of DB1, DA are part of DA1 score, they are very different things... 😊 series bonus is awarded for three uninterrupted PRE-ACROBATIC rotations, not any series of rotations

[@seancato7248]

​@saem_rg Thanks. I'm new to this sport. It's much more confusing than Artistic Gymnastics 😅

[@saem_rg]

@@seancato7248 you can bet! 😂