Roastin' Rigs - Episode 49 - CUT N' SHUT 1.0 TIRES?!

[@arhamrasool43]

Appreciate the kind words, however, the next rig I send you is gonna need a lot more roastin!

[@brandonupchurch5015]

Showing the world, that a well tuned shock needs no band 😉😎

[@reprieverc]

That rig is amazing Arham balled out on the two builds he sent. Hes a hell of a builder and it shows

[@tristanploughman5586]

Anti squat/anti dive is a concept that only applies under acceleration. It has less application (some, but less) then people like think.​​⁠ It’s overdrive (or underdrive in the rear, ultimately the same thing, a difference in gearing between front and rear axles) that is causing the suspension compression. The front wheels are spinning faster, ie the front axle is trying to drive away, faster than the rear axle. Because the front is moving away faster the entire truck “stretches” and the suspension compresses. When you put an overdriven truck in reverse the opposite will happen, the front axle pushes towards the rear and the suspension will fully unload, standing up like a stinkbug. The effect isn’t noticed that often because so many people run droop or at least have their front set to droop. Because the truck is already compressed it isn’t visible on those setups.

[@24Yepp]

Good comment. Thank you

[@Karibouski]

THIS ☝🏼 Thanks for spreading the word 👌🏼

[@nickmyers5036]

Looks like a rock pirates truck. Sick!

[@HillbillyHermitRC]

Love this rig!?! This guy knows what he's doing. In suspension geometry, gearing, custom mods (i.e. cut n shuts and bed), as well as some killer paint jobs. I bet this guy has been in the hobby for quite a while. You typically see those highly detailed style of paint jobs from the R/C racing community. Take notes folks. This is how you set up a line slayer. I've said it once, and I'll say it again. You lose a lot of control when you one hand wheel. This type of wheeling requires the utmost attention to tire placement and throttle input. Not easily done when filming and one hand wheeling. This is my favorite rig you've showcased on Roastin Rigs. It's pretty much a scaled down version of a 1/10 Rock Pirates PW LCG/cheater rig. West Desert Wheeler is making some decent coin on 1/10 cut n shuts. This cat might consider selling some 67mm Tusk to the comp community.

[@radioactivescalerc]

The shocks comprssing at slow crawl is low speed compression, the smother forward power,combined with the load to the shocks they are forced to compress due to the forse of the axles wanting to move. thats how i understand it.

[@nathanross5406]

Not exactly. It’s the overdrive. Since the front tires are going faster than the rear

[@nathanross5406]

It stretches the truck

[@nathanross5406]

That’s why when you back up it will lift up. And anti squat doesn’t work with overdrive

[@nathanross5406]

Anti dive and anti squat get completely over powered by overdrive

[@nathanross5406]

Basically the front end is trying to run away from the rear

[@wingnutbert9685]

Holy shinto!!!! Cut, chopped, sectioned and shut!!!! Talk about getting into it!!! 👏👏👏👏🤘Extra cool points for the carb. bed! Congrats to the owner. Very cool rig! Thanks for sending it in!! Bert

[@adameightyeight718]

I wonder if the servo glitching all the time shortened the battery run time 🤔 Keen to hear more about the stock chassis build.

[@24Yepp]

Possible!

[@killertek78]

Antisquat doesn't exist on a crawler, there's not enough moment of acceleration for the rear end geometry to push the front down(like a drag/racecar), the exact opposite is happening all the time on a slow moving vehicle like a crawler. The rear axle is always pulling the top links away from the front, thus trying to pull the skid up and away. The OD is doing most of the work here, as the front axle upper links are pushing toward the rear of the chassis, while the lower pull the skid forward and down. Boomslang Suspension Suss KZbin has a very good video on it.

[@chrisfullerton2911]

Archer is back!! And up front! He was soo stoked to see this episode! Amazing build again!

[@davidtwa6265]

When the willy's comes in and steals the show cause it's supreme esthetics are fricken perfect loved the paint job on that

[@24Krawlers]

I believe it might be the overdrive pulling it down.. I think. Lol

[@jbrubeljr]

I think underdrive pulling it down, slower in the front over drive would go faster, but yes same theory/idea

[@tristanploughman5586]

@@jbrubeljr It’s overdrive (or underdrive in the rear, ultimately the same thing, a difference in gearing between front and rear axles). The front wheels are spinning faster, ie the front axle is trying to drive away faster than the rear axle. Because the front is moving away faster the entire truck “stretches” and the suspension compresses. When you put an overdriven truck in reverse the opposite will happen, the front axle pushes towards the rear and the suspension will fully unload, standing up like a stinkbug. The effect isn’t noticed that often because so many people run droop or at least have their front set to droop. Because the truck is already compressed it isn’t visible.

[@andyboice5511]

Sounds like the servo is measuring the seismic activity in the area.

[@24Yepp]

It was, the results were mindblowing...

[@chadsmith6268]

Rubber band idea is A+… idk what it was but that thing sounded like a 16 valve Cummins.

[@HookedOnRocks336]

Those hard park steering knuckle are really cool actually, they make them with tungsten steel inserts for added weight. Nice rig.

[@HookedOnRocks336]

And that extra hole was for an insert but he didn't get it installed.

[@keitht7546]

That Rig is a beast even with a bad servo. That pull down feature is it✌🏽

[@NovemberFoxtrotRC]

Cut N shuts have been a thing for a long time in the 1/10 world. Cool to see someone do it for the 1/24’s even though it’s a slightly different situation by not making the wheel size bigger. Ive been wanting to try that with trenchers, might have to now 😎

[@nathanross5406]

It still makes the overall size of the tire bigger. And with all the 1.2 and 1.3 wheels that are out there you could actually do it and increase the wheel size too

[@bigdumbdad2226]

Lorraine made an appearance! Nice Mad TV throwback. That rig is dialed in and is a line slayer. I am sure with a servo that wasn't on the way out and a transmitter you liked it would have been a completely different experience. The hot rod Jeep is looking killer too!

[@24Yepp]

Was wondering if anyone would get the Lorraine 😅

[@yotday]

sup boys. that custom bed is sick. I wish he’d sell those, there’s a real void in the 24th scale for parts like those.

[@77seriouspaul]

The overdrive is compressing the front shocks.

[@Casitascrawlers]

The anti squat makes sense just like on mountain bikes anti squat can be used to make adjustments as needed.

[@Rockcandyrc.]

I have found that overdrive pulls the front down when going forward and lifts the suspension when going back wards, because of the gear difference !!! Rock on 👍

[@justindmikesell6894]

Definitely made some noise, but if you squint it almost sounds like a small diesel motor. Awesome video, cool to see real world geometry actually work on a small truck.

[@Cai_Guy]

Pretty sure its the over drive pulling shocks in . Also the links setup as anti dive or anti squat i always forget which name it is

[@davidtwa6265]

I love how slammed to the ground this build is it looks fricken sweet and the way it sucks itself down is incredible

[@JanSonnemann]

Would be grate to see more of your organic old school woody with it's great wheels crawling side by side with this cool technoid line slayer!

[@24Krawlers]

Sup boys! I love this gift truck!!

[@803scalersncrawlers]

It’s always so cool seeing people I follow on the insta send their rigs in 🤘🤘 keep up the great work dude!!! Awesome sauce!! And that dude is a straight up builder !! Makes me want to try cut n shuts

[@thegreatoutdoore]

What's going on with front suspension 12:45 is related to the instant center or also known as anti-squat anti-dive ratio there are calculators and formulas used for setting up four link suspensions used in real four-wheel drives available on the internet quite easily. Adjusting the angles and separation changes the way the vehicle reacts underbreaking or power.

[@wingnutbert9685]

The squish of the rears on the Woody is sweet!

[@Jakesnyderinthedirtyfivethirty]

The hardpark chassis are ax24 width right ? Or are they standard 24 width? Debating a set of those axles they look pretty slick and a good deal

[@24Yepp]

I think ax24 width is the same width as scx24, maybe i misunderstood the question

[@Jakesnyderinthedirtyfivethirty]

@24Yepp for some reason I was mixing hardpark and rampcrab (uses ax24 skid) chassis up my bad.....from everything I can gather without my hands on one the ax frame and skid is a hair narrower compared to a scx...any thoughts about those hardpark axles compared to mofo or LG can't find much on them honestly

[@slzbuildz]

Curious what radio and thumb drive you recommend? Thanks

[@24Yepp]

@@slzbuildz My setup is a flysky gt5 with a printed thumb wheel

[@slzbuildz]

@24Yepp thank you

[@andyrichey1192]

Yep, I was right. That’s why the upper rear links the link riser on the back axle. Housing is raised up higher anti-squat. Yep love that rig. It’s beautiful, I say did a great job on it for sure.👍👍

[@adrian15041994]

It pulls itself down because of the front overdrive, and some angle, the overdrive wont be enough and it will unload like you would expect.

[@JerrMin]

That’s an awesome build 786crawler!! It looks very capable. I just got those batteries, now I wish I would’ve got another brand. What do you recommend 3s?

[@24Yepp]

It seemed fine after I charged it. I think for my first crawl session it may have not been fully charged

[@adamwillby]

He has a lot of over drive. That's what causes it to suck down like that. The front tires are stretching the wheelbase out on throttle. If you go in reveres it will have to opposite effect. It will extend the shocks amd shorten the wheelbase.

[@wiley.arnett]

I believe the front compression is a result of front overdrive gearing. The faster turning front wheels pull the suspension down. No limiting straps required 😉

[@Go_to_scale_rc_and_slotcars]

Really like this one ,definitely in my top 10 of crawlers you have roasted 😊 love that cab body and the carbon fibre bed .It looks cool how it dips on the suspension 😊 top stuff, and as i usually say, greeting from Latvia, Northern Europe... Harry

[@24Yepp]

Thanks for watching Harry 😀👍🏻

[@paulgarcia8846]

Great build, it looked super capable!

[@andyrichey1192]

That was real nice just walked right up like it wasn’t nothing, I love that paint job. It’s looking sweet out there, dude.👍👍

[@zeroshelfqueens]

Correct me if I’m wrong but did ur gal experience an “O” while examining the rig

[@24Yepp]

Hahah, she was doing a mad tv character impression

[@Danielxperez14]

sup boys, whats the best motor/trans setup in your opinion yep? I'm looking for something quiet but powerful

[@24Yepp]

I think my go-to setup is stock trans with orange pancake motor from mofo

[@Danielxperez14]

@ 🫡 thank you sir, I’ll try that out, on 2 or 3s?

[@24Yepp]

@@Danielxperez14 stock batteries 👍🏻

[@Danielxperez14]

@ thanks again

[@andyrichey1192]

I do believe it’s in the gearing, I bet the front wheels turned faster than the back👍👍

[@yotday]

Did he say what over/under drive he was using? Don’t see that in the parts list.

[@kristianmichels5649]

Overdrive/underdrive will suck the suspension down. If you reverse, it does the opposite

[@asian-ugrclab2367]

I like this one for being a lexan body. The carbon fiber flatbed makes everything stand out! 💯🤙🏾😎 I knew people cut n shut tires in the 1/10 scale world, however I definitely didn't know they did it in the 1/24 scale world 😤 And I absolutely love that wagon build of yours! 🔥💯🤙🏾😎 The front is pulling down because of the overdrive.

[@JeepBully]

Over driven front and UD rear. Pulls front and kinda drags rear stretching the suspension initially.

[@joebonkers]

Happy Thursday Boys!

[@Rockcandyrc.]

Yep!!! This was sweeet!!! Dude rippin out some cool skills👌👍

[@julianivanrc6502]

I like it so much. Congrats to the builder, this rig is definetly of my style. The cut tyres are awesome. Would like to see you using another remote and take all your hard lines!

[@TechSpec18]

I would say the front sucks down because of the overdrive gearing. Cool truck.

[@jasonbecker4997]

This thing looks like a true slayer. Those custom tires go hard in the paint! Memo to future sender inners though, if your servo is taking a dump in its pants, change that bear out before you send it in.

[@WestDesertRc]

It pulls the body down because of the high overdrive it has

[@bghobbies1]

That baby is tuned! But that servo was no fun haha

[@MysticRiverRC]

Very cool and capable rig. But the woodside stole all my attention! That rig looks amazing with those wheels!

[@local24_]

Wow that’s dedication to cut and glue your own tires 💪💪💪 love this one 🤙 no doubt some company will start making those lol

[@johngardner6871]

You’re a top tier guy!

[@24Yepp]

@@johngardner6871 oh stop it 🥰

[@gregorygrubiss6466]

I’d like to send my Prophet out for that line killer series. Any info on how to submit???

[@RubbleRC]

I’ve seen you couple times had to work an overnight just sitting watching KZbin for 17 hour and getting paid holiday pay for it I found you entertaining kind of person I would get along well with I’ve ordered scx 24s for Christmas presents like 6 one is for me and I’ve been collecting parts I realy like this one I gonna try something like this I have the c10 comin so thanks for the info and entertainment

[@andyrichey1192]

That’s a sweet looking rig for sure👍👍

[@Martin-sg8we]

I run 750 or 900 mah batteries I’m In it for the fun crawling not comp or anything serious

[@williamsrcadventures6862]

It’s definitely different!

[@jeremiahlamphere7542]

The front is compressing because of the overdrive in the front axle

[@andyrichey1192]

I really been enjoying these videos. Hope you keep it up. Well, I’ll watch for the next one until then. Peace and chicken grease😁👍👍👋👋😎

[@seniorxj2931]

It's from overdrive

[@maxwellwills1816]

R.I.P little buddy 🐝

[@andyrichey1192]

👍👍 super cool dude I’m here watching 8:00 PM Thursday, November 21. Super cool.

[@andyrichey1192]

❤️👍👍 dude that’s a awesome rig, looks like a old Willys Woody, I like that

[@WES10.]

Yep 😎

[@4runner_rooney359]

Yaassss geometry is key 🙌🙌

[@Casitascrawlers]

That is a very nice build. Q

[@NewportCrawlers]

It’s the gears pulling it down.

[@tomgilberg8038]

I'm ready for some more scale less comp style looking roasts

[@Fortes_RC_Adv]

Very nice😊

[@DesignedRhyme]

Probably due to overdrive or under drive, maybe both.

[@DesignedRhyme]

I really should wait till the vid ends before I comment haha

[@24Yepp]

@@DesignedRhyme😂 I appreciate the help though!!

[@DesignedRhyme]

It was a lucky guess, again.. haha

[@NewportCrawlers]

The over drive

[@SUBnGER]

@24yep can u please just once drive the 1ft from drunken frog to upper drunken frog. I was hoping u would eventually just film 1 line there instead of cutting the video. Do it!!!

[@24Yepp]

🫡

[@imabigfanbro]

imabigfanbro

[@24Yepp]

Same

[@austinmoody-phelps3877]

Was sup boys!

[@andrewsexton5625]

9/10

[@204_mod_shop]

12:45 anybody ? 🤔🤔🤔

[@77seriouspaul]

It’s the overdrive

[@NovemberFoxtrotRC]

@@77seriouspaulI think it’s actually some sort of front axle bind possibly. OD/UD won’t suck the front down like that. If anything it sucks the rear down a bit due to dragging the rear wheels at a slower rpm.

[@Scale-Crawler-tamiya-Xray-RC]

👌👌👌👋👍👍👋

[@jonathanwambeck7800]

Serious mental issues if you make your own tires

[@SeizedBCG]

i heard about cutnshut tires about 3 weeks ago on some random short but they just cut slits all around the sidewalls and glued them back shut... was confused. But this is a way cooler idea

[@NovemberFoxtrotRC]

It takes a 1.9 tire and adds a section to make it into a 2.2 tire but keeping the narrow width of the 1.9 size tire. 2.2’s are generally super wide but lately some companies like proline have been making 2.2 LP tires do on their hyrax. The 2.2 LP hyrax is exactly what you get when you cut and shut a 1.9.

[@demantoid418]

Great looking truck and climbs nice. I am not sure about the cut tires but she climbs. Thanks 24Yep 🫡