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Rob Williams discusses whether the Canucks should take a run at Jake Guentzel while sacrificing the team's depth. Rob argues that the team should be super cautious about overpaying for Nikita Zadorov and Dakota Joshua. The guys talks about how moving Ilya Mikheyev could give the Canucks flexibility to make big changes to their roster this summer and the idea of Canucks fans cheering (and hating) the Oilers in the Stanley Cup.
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[@boxvango9021]

I'm no expert but a Zadorov sized human made every player play bigger. Find another Joshua. Find a way to keep Zadorov. Mikheyev will end up getting added to assets for the room.

[@steakovercake3986]

Joshua > Zadarov

[@mediahound]

I do Big Z for Macheyev + a 2nd in a second. The intangibles Z brings are rare and with a couple more years under Toch, Footy and Gonch I do not see him becoming less of that player. Get it done!

[@chrisn2125]

Yes hope he comes back.

[@jeffputnam3517]

I’m so happy we are not debating about Jake Virtanen, Olli Juolevi and Loui Eriksson anymore. The Canucks are a very good team that is well-respected throughout the league now. Big step forward since those dark Benning days. I would not sign Z if the $$ goes north of $4.8 million imo

[@MikeRatushniak-pj5ce]

I thought it was okay a little high but Zadoraf is the key to the back end he can lots of different things to meters out to me

[@gordonmacdowell8117]

Someone will overpay for Joshua, but under different coaching and with different linemates, he could easily end up being like Antoine Roussel was for us on his new team. On another team, Zadorov becomes less revered for his physical dominance and character, and more criticized for undisciplined penalties and suspensions. Both of these players are perfect fits right now in Vancouver, with the coaching and team they're with, but I won't be surprised if they go elsewhere and things aren't as rosy for them. Professional athletes are going to want to get paid, but if they love the game, they also need to consider what the right spot for them is worth too.

[@rajdhindsa9326]

Too much money for 30year old. Should find 25 ,26 year old for $6 or $7 million winger. Loui Erickson was suppose to be good fit with the Sedins.

[@ToyMakerprops]

Sign Zadorov and Toffolli..Toffolli can pot 30 goals a season and not cost you 9 mill like Guentzle.

[@eltaco5471]

Sign Zadorov and if you don’t do that a lot of season ticket holders are not going to be happy

[@DavidAllison-qs8wn]

The weak link last season was Petey's wingers. Guentzel could fix that, maybe Mikheyev can bounce back with that pair. Losing Joshua weakens the 3rd line but Garland drives that line so maybe Podz can play up into the line-up? Big Z, too bad but maybe Dillon can be had for less. They have enough bodies on the left side D already. Myers will probably go for a team friendly deal, Blueger possibly also. It can be done but by far the biggest hole was on Petey's wing. If the window is now, sign Jake as the key piece, in years 6,7, live with that result to win now, take a shot for the next 4 years with key pieces in place. I like Joshua's play but he never did that before playing with Garland. He's the secret weapon. Give Podz a shot, maybe he pans out. It's complicated but I'd swing for the fence with Guentzel, could be adios for Z and Joshua.

[@scottiem]

The way I look at it, it's a 2-3 year window. Is it worth it to secure Guentzel for 7 years when he might slow down? Yes, if you win a cup with that contract it's worth it.

[@goodeye6373]

I squirmed and thought the sky was falling then came to the conclusion to trust Rutherford. That being said I was reminded about an hour ago at what a deterrant he is. He beat up a couple guys for roughing up Petey.. End up hanging him out to dry again to get mauled by other teams if there is no deterrant. When have you ever seen Petey thank someone on the team for standing up for him? I think we should keep him.. Not quite the same but like letting Chara walk.. Who would do that?

[@steakovercake3986]

I'm stoked if the Oilers win. I don't care about pity rivals, plus next year we will the cup, so two years of Canadian teams winning the cup will go down in history after 31 years of drought 😂

[@radivel1]

If another team had Jake and you have Joshua and Zadorov, and you call that team and offer to trade them straight up, do you do that deal?

[@tedlee1848]

If Joshua and Garland are third liners coming in every night playing like second liners and in some games 1st liners they should be paid like second liners. The Canucks are making a huge not making it a top priority to keep garland and Joshua together. They are losing on the unique chemistry they had that set the Canucks apart from the other teams this year. I’d much rather sign Big Z and Joshua and sign Toffoli. Maybe try to make a trade for Necas after. At this point with Lekkerimaki coming up about to fill the roll the Canucks have hopes for Hoglander I might sell high on him. Even if he’s going to be a stud I think a Necas would be a bigger need atm.

[@christhornycroft3686]

Too many fans get emotional about players. The last time I was upset about trading a player was when that 94 team was dismantled. At this point, it's not about the individual players. It's about the team. There is a salary cap. You can't pay Dakota Joshua, a 3rd line winger, market value. Full stop. You can't throw 6.5-7million at Zadorov. Getting rid of Mikheyev's contract isn't as easy as NHL 24. Pettersson needs more than 3rd line players like Mikheyev and Hoglander. Hoglander might be passable, but they need another winger for that line. Maybe you get away with Arvidsson short term until Lekkerimaki is ready. But he needs to play with elite players. One of the failings of Burke, Nonis, Gillis and Benning was their inability to find an elite winger for the Sedins, no disrespect to Carter and Burrows. They were never the elite wingers that the Twins were. They wasted their prime years with middle 6 wingers. Rutherford and Allvin need to get Elias an elite winger to play with.

[@x2may374]

It's not overpaying for zadorov. Sign big Z!!!!!

[@raymondleemanpaper]

We need a player like Kuzmemko!

[@jameskillbot2867]

It’ll never happen but wouldn’t it be great to trade a 3rd and mikayev for kuzmenko at 50% retained. Would save 2 million off the cap. And get kuz back in toccets dog house lol.

[@murrayreid]

Wat about this guy Mcgorty from winapeg

[@ronamcsmith1982]

Sign Zadorov ! His heart is not so much about money as being here. His agent may want him to get more money, not Big Z. He is an excellent defenseman and a loyal player. Most Vancouver fans want Zadorov. Vancouver will only benefit. Resign Zadorov and stop pussy-footing please!!!!

[@tripleg1686]

And if there’s an injury whether minor or major to Guentzal during the season you’re screwed so go ahead Vancouver do the stupid thing.