GOODFELLAS / FOODFELLAS gangster psychology (film analysis)

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Collative Learning

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@33333371111117
@33333371111117 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting detail I noticed when watching this. At 5:32 and 19:01 there are pictures on the wall appearing to be The Last Supper by da Vinci. Though cropped, and arguably the same prop in the two scenes, it matches the theme you’ve highlighted here.
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, very well spotted. Just when I thought I'd picked up on everything. Am pinning your comment for now. Cheers :)
@mk-ultramags1107
@mk-ultramags1107 2 жыл бұрын
One dog goes one way, the other goes the other... This guys like, "Whaddya want from me?"
@Thespeedrap
@Thespeedrap 2 жыл бұрын
True last temptation scene of the last supper is a very basic plotline.
@moviearchaeologist9655
@moviearchaeologist9655 2 жыл бұрын
Judas betraying Jesus, Henry betraying the gang. Not sure if there's a Jesus in this gang.
@stephenwalker2924
@stephenwalker2924 2 жыл бұрын
I think the director is also reminding us here that these horrible, murdering mobsters are, irony of ironies: catholic, religious, believers in the little baby Jesus. Ahhhh!
@Chud_Bud_Supreme
@Chud_Bud_Supreme 2 жыл бұрын
Food was a huge theme in The Sopranos as well
@R-Lee-
@R-Lee- 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Where's my gabagoool!?
@Bale4Bond
@Bale4Bond 2 жыл бұрын
Caren's Zitti
@FireKracker98
@FireKracker98 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw the title of this video, I immediately thought of The Sopranos. Someone was always eating something.
@Chud_Bud_Supreme
@Chud_Bud_Supreme 2 жыл бұрын
@@FireKracker98 Food was a catalyst for everything. The Italian mobsters looked down on the American mobsters based on their inferior palate in one scene. Melfi was graped by a guy who worked at a pizza place. Pizza was how they found out AJ vandalized the school. The list goes on and on
@kod8933
@kod8933 2 жыл бұрын
​@@R-Lee- Gabagool? Over hereee
@jekw23
@jekw23 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite part is just after the garlic bit…. “How many onions did you use” “I used tree small onions” “Tree onions! How many tomatoes?” “I used two big tomatoes “ “Two tomatoes! You don’t need tree onions!” That’s all off screen, don’t know why but that always cracks me up. Such a minor argument but I love that little snippet.
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious offscreen banter. As memorable as anything else in the film.
@g00zik97
@g00zik97 2 жыл бұрын
also it was improvised i think, because if i remember correctly the prison cook was played by scorcese's father, and martin wrote scarce script for him and wanted him just to riff and act italian
@ThirteenAmp
@ThirteenAmp 2 жыл бұрын
"2 cans, 2 big cans"
@jekw23
@jekw23 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThirteenAmp ha, yeah that makes more sense
@camrnlve
@camrnlve Жыл бұрын
Facts!
@_scabs6669
@_scabs6669 2 жыл бұрын
Worthy of mention is that Italians love their food so much because Italy is full of hills. Before cars, Italians were walking up and down hills in and out of town all day. So they developed a very rich, carb heavy cuisine to support the lifestyle. My family hails from Venice on one side and Sicily on the other.
@RickJaeger
@RickJaeger 10 ай бұрын
Not many hills in Venice though
@JackeyBoyyy
@JackeyBoyyy 7 ай бұрын
He never said there was hills in Venice Rick, don’t be so illiterate
@SiccazHD
@SiccazHD 5 ай бұрын
Bad explanation
@_scabs6669
@_scabs6669 5 ай бұрын
@@SiccazHD I thought Rob did a pretty good job
@yungvolio7853
@yungvolio7853 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of food puns you dished out was impressive
@thebonecone
@thebonecone 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I just don’t have the appetite for that many puns. Became hard to digest and felt bloated.
@yungvolio7853
@yungvolio7853 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebonecone well I don't get chewed out so easily
@timb4248
@timb4248 2 жыл бұрын
A little distasteful. I don't like having metaphors shoved down my throat.
@DVincentW
@DVincentW 2 жыл бұрын
Its a spicy analysation.
@yungvolio7853
@yungvolio7853 2 жыл бұрын
These replies are just eating me up, I almost can't stomach them
@coinraker6497
@coinraker6497 2 жыл бұрын
The sizzling of the sausages in the pan representing Paulie's anger; that's a really good observation!
@Dbzmad34222
@Dbzmad34222 2 жыл бұрын
its honestly amazing how you can pick these things out, ive seen this film loads of times but never thought of things in this way
@Maggerama
@Maggerama 2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@SpicyTexan64
@SpicyTexan64 2 жыл бұрын
You can see anything you want in a film, even if it isn't really there.
@Maggerama
@Maggerama 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpicyTexan64 This sounds like an empty generalisation pretending to be a word of wisdom. But hey, I guess one can see anything one wants in a post, even if it isn't really there.
@noreply-7069
@noreply-7069 Жыл бұрын
@@SpicyTexan64 This is just a stupid platitude especially regarding this movie. It's obvious how much food is associated with the lifestyle.
@jonbourgoin182
@jonbourgoin182 2 жыл бұрын
This video was so fascinating that it went by so quickly and I was sad that it was over. Gonna eat my feelings now, thanks, Rob.
@spinlok3943
@spinlok3943 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say it’s one of those movies that makes me extremely hungry every time I watch it.
@rickrolledtruth5834
@rickrolledtruth5834 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly lol... I gotta have a mortadella, salami sub )
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 2 жыл бұрын
I ate a lot while editing this vid
@Chud_Bud_Supreme
@Chud_Bud_Supreme 2 жыл бұрын
@@rickrolledtruth5834 I like to have angel hair and meatballs while watching it
@rickrolledtruth5834
@rickrolledtruth5834 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not alone. Great topic COLLECTIVE LEARNING. Hey son of tiamat I'm overdue for a good Angel hair and meatballs dinner, I'll be enjoying that on my next watch of mafia flicks.
@Road_Dogs_Indy
@Road_Dogs_Indy 10 ай бұрын
OMG! This is so true for me as well.
@RomanticAnalog
@RomanticAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
Knocked it outta the park with this video. Great work!
@palaceofwisdom9448
@palaceofwisdom9448 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the kids eating at a small table in a separate room, at least here in midwestern America it is common practice during large gatherings. It was referred to as "the kids' table", and we used to look forward to the day we would be grown up and get to sit at the big table. I think it was out of fear that our clumsy little hands would break the good glasses (which only came out for special occasions) or otherwise make a mess.
@fightvale57
@fightvale57 2 жыл бұрын
Common in the south (where my family is from) and in the West where I am likely because of the influence.
@myronsanders4563
@myronsanders4563 2 жыл бұрын
This is very common in the South. I remember as a kid sitting at the kids table and feeling like an offical grown up when I got to sit at the adult table w/ my Grandparents Aunts Uncles and older Cousins
@chikelord
@chikelord Жыл бұрын
Same with my family. It's more of an American thing I guess. Maybe Americans just hate kids. Lol
@noreply-7069
@noreply-7069 Жыл бұрын
Yes it's definitely an American thing generally, not just restricted to people of Italian descent.
@doctorscarf8958
@doctorscarf8958 11 ай бұрын
Something like that is pretty common with mexican families here, the grownups would eat at the dinner table while the kids would eat in the living room and watch TV.
@jeffreygunn3150
@jeffreygunn3150 2 ай бұрын
Henny Youngman. “Take my wife…” oldest bit there is. 😂
@jeffreyschon
@jeffreyschon 2 жыл бұрын
I never would have noticed this food theme, so wild! I wanted to say every video I've seen of yours is an absolute master class in how to KZbin. Thank you for all your wonderful content!
@Schwartzbruder1
@Schwartzbruder1 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was bill burr who said a long time ago that one of the most important components to a gangster film is the food
@PaulFurber
@PaulFurber 2 жыл бұрын
That laugh at the end bothered me for ages until I recognized it from the Holy Grail bridge of death scene. Very good analysis - Goodfellas always made me hungry whenever I watched it and I never stopped to consider why. Duh.
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, we have a winner on spotting the holy grail reference. It wasn't a laugh though. It was the narrator getting slaughtered for annoying the viewer.
@moviearchaeologist9655
@moviearchaeologist9655 2 жыл бұрын
Next course from Monty Python... Salad Days! 🎩🎩
@PaulFurber
@PaulFurber 2 жыл бұрын
@@collativelearning Aaah of course, it's the old man from Scene 24.
@bloodrunsclear
@bloodrunsclear 5 ай бұрын
The blown out lighting, seemingly off framing, and ‘freshly captured’ looks of exaggerated expressions in the photos is some of the best in cinematic history. It really looks like period photos you found in a drawer years later!
@galesito1733
@galesito1733 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that you didn't mention Jimmy smothering the pasta in ketchup in the scene at Tommy's mum's house. He made the dish look like Billy Bats' face.
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, I did notice him doing that, but didn't make the association to blood. Good call. Funnily enough, at the end of the movie Henry complains about ordering spaghetti and getting egg noodles and ketchup.
@Vujo357
@Vujo357 2 жыл бұрын
Henry said in his book that Jimmy loved catchup very much, maybe De Niro had that in his mind
@galesito1733
@galesito1733 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vujo357 Yeah. De Niro would definitely have picked up on that, he's obsessed with getting the character right.
@AntonBaumgartner
@AntonBaumgartner 2 жыл бұрын
According to some BTS video that’s the Irish way of ruining your meal
@julesfalcone
@julesfalcone Жыл бұрын
Scorsese said Tommy's mom knew he was Irish so she made him eggs and potatoes, hence the ketchup.
@apedude0
@apedude0 2 жыл бұрын
The part where Paulie thinly slices the garlic so it liquifies into the pan/sauce - a metaphor for how he makes people disappear without trace.
@richardmoores
@richardmoores 2 жыл бұрын
Why not just use a garlic crush and have a metaphor about how he crushes/makes mincemeat out of people who betray him?
@Sorcerers_Apprentice_11
@Sorcerers_Apprentice_11 Жыл бұрын
@@richardmooresthat could’ve worked, but it’s not as beautiful, poetically speaking.
@katskillz
@katskillz Жыл бұрын
thin slice is also a phrase used to denote ways to quickly assess a topic, or to quickly assess a person.
@mk-ultramags1107
@mk-ultramags1107 2 жыл бұрын
Scorsese uses Restaurants/Clubs/Food etc like Michael Mann uses Coffee Shops. Very integral in building up the worlds these characters live in. There's absolutely a sense of realism added with these scenes Edit: Just to add, I also believe Scorsese uses meals as a good way to bring characters together and with all the improv he uses on set, it makes for a more naturalistic feel. Also, these guys commit a litany of crimes and casually eat during and after the acts. Completely lacking any conscience.
@davidlean1060
@davidlean1060 2 жыл бұрын
There's no coffee shop in Collateral, but there are 3 major scenes in night clubs. The 'Jazz guy' murder, the scene when Max meets Felix and then the shoot out in the club in Korea Town. You have me thinking about how he uses those scenes differently than he does in Heat now. He makes those clubs so weird and vivid. The colours pop out even more because of the digital photography and I guess the most obvious reason why is we are experiencing those places through Max's eyes.
@mk-ultramags1107
@mk-ultramags1107 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidlean1060 Yes, clubs in his more recent films. You're absolutely right. Although he was more of a hired gun with 'Collateral' so it's like Cronenberg making 'The Dead Zone'... You can feel their fingerprints on their respective film of course, but they also tend to be narratively different. With his wonderful conversion to digital(One of the few to really get his own look thru that process along with David Fincher and a cpl others), Mann captures that "Neon Pop" in all its glory. Although I think he may have used film with 'Miami Vice' for particular scenes, I can't say that with 100% certainty though. Regardless, I agree. He's got a great eye in regards to that. He's always been big on color palette thru the years. 'Manhunter' is loaded with Bright, vibrant colors. The DP(Dante Spinotti I believe) specifically mentioned how every single shot was meticulously crafted
@davidlean1060
@davidlean1060 2 жыл бұрын
@@mk-ultramags1107 Don't get me started on Heat and Collateral! I wouldn't even think of Heat as being my favorite of all time movie, but I struggle to think of a film I have watched and rewatched as often.
@mk-ultramags1107
@mk-ultramags1107 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidlean1060 Heat is in my Top 5-10. Hard for me to say X is better than Y or Z because so many films are great in their own unique way. I watch almost all of his work on a regular basis. I really like 'Blackhat' too. I think its an overlooked gem of a film.
@radicalgreek99
@radicalgreek99 2 жыл бұрын
So does Coppola
@JonnyMack33
@JonnyMack33 7 ай бұрын
16:08 I love how the poses in the holiday shots are perfect.. like Ray Liottta with his head hi and a daft grin
@danboy77
@danboy77 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a film where the camera moves so perfectly. And it’s a film that has always made me feel hungry especially the scene with Tommy and his mother around the table. My favourite gangster movie. Great video subscribed!
@julesfalcone
@julesfalcone Жыл бұрын
I saw a breakdown on KZbin of the camera movement in The Godfather. You'd like it.
@scottbubb2946
@scottbubb2946 2 жыл бұрын
My parents' families were both very poor when they were kids. My dad started his own business and, by the time I was born, they would have been considered upper middle class. Food was extremely important to them because they had to go hungry a lot when they were young. So they always wanted the best food they could get. Ironically, I have an aversion to things like steak because I had to eat a lot of it when I was younger. My tastes run pretty cheap. It's a good thing too, because now I barely make enough to pay my rent. (I couldn't take over the family business because it's basically obsolete these days.)
@ellerose9164
@ellerose9164 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds a bit like my moms experience. My grandmother - who was a child during WW2 in eastern Germany - had known poverty and forced my mother to eat a lot of meat and fatty foods as a child. So much that my mom is a very picky eater nowadays who hates fatty foods.
@ingridlinbohm7682
@ingridlinbohm7682 2 жыл бұрын
My mother was a refugee at the end of the second world war and sought for food on rubbish dumps. She forced fed me food as she thought I would starve to death. I eat normally but if people give me food I don't want I refuse to eat it.
@favorit601
@favorit601 2 жыл бұрын
Great hint from you! Absolutely true.
@schrisdellopoulos9244
@schrisdellopoulos9244 2 жыл бұрын
Same here bro. Exactly.
@mjkypta
@mjkypta 2 жыл бұрын
You are amazing - I have always loved the food feelings in this movie, and to have the same framing analysis you used in Blair Witch and Shining applied to this is very appetizing. One addition to your meat theme: the ever present red sauce in Italian-American cooking resembling blood and gore. This is almost always deployed in our gangster films, and very heavily in Goodfellas.
@alanford3359
@alanford3359 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Rob. There are so many details I've noticed over years of viewing that you've elaborated upon with such tantalising logic, especially the 'pecking order' concept. It's amazing how many significant and pivotal scenes take place in kitchens! If you ever write an analysis on Casino maybe the connecting thematic thread could be something like 'the bigger the ego gets the more garish the clothing becomes'.
@patricksratliff
@patricksratliff 2 жыл бұрын
"cheese and bread are so unhealthy" ...seems like a pretty strong (double) categorical condemnation
@g00zik97
@g00zik97 2 жыл бұрын
my favourite line is said by deniro when they are eating at tommy's mother house, when tommy is making up the story about a deer and deniro goes 'the HOOF'. i never understood why scorsese put so much emphasis on that line but its just such a funny line to say and to zoom in on deniro's face when hes saying that
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, interesting
@g00zik97
@g00zik97 2 жыл бұрын
it always baffled me, the emphasis on 'the HOOF', ever since ive seen it for the first time which mustve been a dozen years ago and everytime ive seen ot which mustve been at least a dozen times so far i could never understand it. now when i think of it maybe they were trying to allude to 'the most dangerous game' somehow, but i think its a stretch. a lot of scenes or bits which dont make sense to me at first, overtime come together, but this one will keep me up forever.
@jerryblainii1208
@jerryblainii1208 Жыл бұрын
It can also be demonstrating the quick wit and white lies gangsters deploy even when talking to their mother. Yeah this entire video is a trip lol. The hoof!
@hotkeyafl
@hotkeyafl 2 жыл бұрын
I literally have no complaints. You broke down everything perfectly. I have seen this film about 10 times and probably knew about the food references subliminally. Robert De Niro foreshadowing in those photos was well spotted. Great effort sir.
@uomodonore245
@uomodonore245 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the feeding of the guy to the lions scene also highlights their Italian heritage. Modern Italians are the descendants of the Ancient Romans who feed people to lions.
@MonkeyBars1
@MonkeyBars1 2 жыл бұрын
Love all the corny food metaphors in your script Rob. great work as always 🌽
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 2 жыл бұрын
Really went for it on that one. There must a be w few dozen of them in there.
@MonkeyBars1
@MonkeyBars1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man I think I noticed that many. You’re one of the few T00berz to think on that meta level and give that extra layer of density to your content. I suppose it’s no surprise since 80% of your subject matter is about exactly that process in TV & film… 💁🏻‍♂️
@Sushi_bar
@Sushi_bar 11 ай бұрын
Bro i loved that commentary, especially how you kept mentioning theres no fruits or veggies in sight xd for real awesome analysis!
@fertilizerspike
@fertilizerspike Жыл бұрын
"cheese and bread are so unhealthy" are you serious
@davemccage7918
@davemccage7918 Ай бұрын
Came here to say the same exact thing! Do you know what else is “unhealthy” if you consume too much of? Water…. It’s not what you eat, it’s the amount that matters. I can eat nothing but pizza, steak and burgers for a month and not gain a single pound, but that’s because I only eat one real meal per day.
@lyonellaverde3135
@lyonellaverde3135 Ай бұрын
Always appreciate how off-the-cuff your vides are. It's food for thought.
@kowalski3769
@kowalski3769 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant catch on the lady with the grocery bags!! It's no coincidence that both Scorsese and Coppola put so much focus on food and family in these mob movies. One thing I think is interesting is how culture and cigarettes has changed in film. Cigs were a huge acting tool used for years and now it's not used as much as smoking has been phased out in public. I've noticed that coffee seems to be the new cigarettes in film. Most notably the To Go franchise coffee cups with the weird lids. Most of the time they aren't even full and you can notice how the actors handle the cup whether they are full of liquid or not. Now instead of taking a puff of a cigarette for dramatic affect they take a pull off of the coffee cup. Might be a cultural thing but in the NY/NJ/PA area during the holidays and family gatherings the kids always had a separate table either in the same room or another room altogether. It was a right off passage to graduate up to the adult table.
@michaelmirraministry8834
@michaelmirraministry8834 3 ай бұрын
I think the decorations on the little lamps on the table in the Bamboo Lounge ( 8:52) which look like blood dripping down the lamps fits with the idea that the mobsters food is drenched in blood or paid for by murder and violence.
@LikeSomeDude
@LikeSomeDude 2 жыл бұрын
Mr Ager, you’ve done it yet again. Once again, when I heard the description of the video I thought “oh what a stupid thing to make a video on! He’s obviously running out of ideas and now has to make up stuff about food! Of course there’s food in the film, every person eats three meals a day!” But lo and behold, I watched and was BLOWN AWAY by how obviously intentional all the food references were! It’s always a ball to dissect films with you Mr Ager! I look forward to the next one!
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 2 жыл бұрын
Best compliment for the vid so far :)
@LikeSomeDude
@LikeSomeDude 2 жыл бұрын
@@collativelearning what an honor, thanks for all this great content.
@endymion4078
@endymion4078 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on finally getting this up
@flawed1
@flawed1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree with just about everything you said. Another thing to note is that food helps to keep the story and the characters grounded. They’re doing all this crazy violent stuff, but they’re also doing very normal things like birthday parties and family dinners. It makes things surreal while keeping them from getting so out of the ordinary that we can no longer to relate to them
@bobshark123
@bobshark123 2 жыл бұрын
beautiful work as usual
@nr655321
@nr655321 2 жыл бұрын
Your perceptiveness is just on another level. A real feast for our eyes and ears!
@NickNicometi
@NickNicometi 2 жыл бұрын
Cheese is not unhealthy. White, wheatfree bread is unhealthy.
@RobinMarks1313
@RobinMarks1313 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, food becomes a main theme in The Sopranos. I've worked with Italians, and hung out as if I were family, and food is a huge part of Italian culture. The theme of food become a hyper focused theme in The Sopranos with the family of Johnny Sacrimoni. His wife is obese and it's a theme on it's own. Also, one of Johnny's daughters was anorexic. She explodes at a family meeting to berate the family and it's obsession with food. Of course there's many, many food references about food in The Sopranos, but the episode, "Mr. & Mrs. John Sacrimoni Request" is about a wedding. And the focus of the wedding is the food. John's daughter seems to point out the focus of the Italian family and food. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJ-8oaWhitOmpqs and cheeze is god's food
@HellllÏôn
@HellllÏôn 2 жыл бұрын
Haha this is awesome brother! I haven't got time to watch your upload yet but seeing the title I had to have a quick gander. Literally, I'm 47 so saw this film when it came out and everytime - I mean EVERYTIME I'm preparing meals with tomatoes and garlic I remember that scene from prison and try and make the garlic as thin as possible (not with a razorblade 😆) Thanks. Will watch the rest later
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers. It is so weird how the food elements imprint on the brain. I often have the same recollection when chopping up garlic to put in a meal. I don't use a razor either though.
@OrdnanceLab
@OrdnanceLab 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and analysis.
@Road_Dogs_Indy
@Road_Dogs_Indy 10 ай бұрын
Wow!!! This analysis is brilliant! Ya know what I find crazy!? For some strange reason "subconsciously" whenever I eat pasta or any kind of Italian food I can't help but to start thinking of this movie. It's amazing how the mental affects that movies, music and entertainment in general can have on your mind. The food scenes are definitely there for a reason.
@DrBonely
@DrBonely 2 жыл бұрын
The food puns in the commentary were great!
@uchidaoginome
@uchidaoginome 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis as always. Helps me to see how a smart filming crew can help create mood and atmosphere in ways so subtle you really can't notice unless you decide to see if there's something there...and it's there!
@Supermarine0Spitfire
@Supermarine0Spitfire 2 жыл бұрын
Great and hilarious video Rob!
@JonnyMack33
@JonnyMack33 7 ай бұрын
28:00 all those razor blades and sharp forks that aren't being used as shanks and weapons, but being used as they were intended.
@jamesabernethy7896
@jamesabernethy7896 2 жыл бұрын
I watch some of your videos when they come out but sometimes save really interesting looking ones as workout videos. I queue up videos to get things to the right length. Yesterday I watched one of your Shining videos which was a Part 1 and a Shining video from Minty Comedic Arts which was a part 2. Coincidence? Your analysis is so well structured and clearly explained, it's quite mind-blowing at times and it really enhanced the viewing experience. Thank you so much for your work.
@letscookwithleigh
@letscookwithleigh 3 ай бұрын
Superb video, thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks.
@bradhorowitz2765
@bradhorowitz2765 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a goodfellas analysis of children? I got really interested when you brought up how the kids are out at the kids table and how that’s a whole can of worms. Great video also!
@wilburjones4084
@wilburjones4084 2 жыл бұрын
very clever script, I thought it might just be for the intro but strong food puns all the way through, .. well done! Serving up youtubers a tasty treat.
@overglobe
@overglobe 2 жыл бұрын
I jokingly called the film FOODKILLAS for years. Great work, excellent analysis as always.
@elliottjamesleon4838
@elliottjamesleon4838 2 жыл бұрын
As others have mentioned, it's clear that David Chase was influenced by the food theme of Goodfellas, using it throughout the Sopranos series. And the way he used contemporary pop or rock songs (often in an ironic way) to heighten the drama of a scene, or for the ending of the episode, I suspect was influenced by Mean Streets.
@michaelmirraministry8834
@michaelmirraministry8834 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite videos of yours.
@MattJones-np2dd
@MattJones-np2dd 2 жыл бұрын
An amazing point of view and a great observation seen in a different light....keep up the good work...👍👍👍👍
@venicec3310
@venicec3310 2 жыл бұрын
I use to say goodfellas was a cooking movie with gangsters. But wow i never realized just how much food was used to symbolize so much in this movie. Well done and great watch mate
@Thespeedrap
@Thespeedrap Жыл бұрын
That and the Godfather movies are examples of people who commit at least are at regular people who like to eat.
@JD.78
@JD.78 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, i really enjoyed this.
@juliofunes6778
@juliofunes6778 2 жыл бұрын
You know every time I've watched this movie I've always focused on the shot of Paulie frying those sausages. I never put it together with the Billie Bats scene but I think I was feeling a relation to that subconsciously.
@bentramer682
@bentramer682 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not Italian, but I feel the same connection to the food scenes during this film as I get with remembering Christmas, Thanksgiving, birthdays, and especially Easter with my grandparents and their family. it's a kind of feeling that you'll be okay they'll make sure your fed and loved. even though we never ate traditional food from Ireland (where my family originated) there was always a since of national pride I got I can't explain it but this movie gives me a similar feeling.
@hatuletoh
@hatuletoh 2 жыл бұрын
This video made me hungry, like watching "Goodfellas" always does. But I'm an Italian American, so food being connected to every important moment in life makes perfect sense to me.
@Just_lift_anyone
@Just_lift_anyone 2 жыл бұрын
Very true about ice cream; I visited Parma with work years ago and on a day off I visited an ice cream parlour and the locals would turn up with empty tubs which are filled and taken home. Their ice cream was amazing by the way!
@dlmiller7873
@dlmiller7873 2 жыл бұрын
Solid analysis, Rob. It makes like this kind of movie even less.
@roygbv255
@roygbv255 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding. I have watched the film in full, easily 20 times. I knew obviously food and drink was a big theme in the movie but never connected it all until now. This movie making shit is deeper than I gave it credit for.
@GaryJRobinson
@GaryJRobinson 2 жыл бұрын
Funny you should say that Rob because I've always found Goodfellas a very apetizing movie to watch, simply because of all the food. Makes me hungry every time I watch it. Cheers!
@tareksursock8631
@tareksursock8631 2 жыл бұрын
The throwing of a man to the lions at the zoo is interesting because in Italy the lion is seen as a symbol of strength. 🇮🇹🦁💪🏻
@davehandelman2832
@davehandelman2832 2 жыл бұрын
Sooooo FANTASTIC!!! Thank you rob!!!!
@_scabs6669
@_scabs6669 2 жыл бұрын
It's also a metaphor for filmmaking. The fine mixture of ingredients of different kinds, mixing a sauce the way you mix genres, etc.
@dylanmahoney4889
@dylanmahoney4889 2 жыл бұрын
A song of ice and fire (the books) has a huge emphasis on food.
@jekw23
@jekw23 2 жыл бұрын
My friend read the fifth book before me and complained half the book was about eating beans!!
@DanLockwood
@DanLockwood Жыл бұрын
I always thought of the food scenes as showing how ordinary all this carnage was for them. Like it was as much a part of their lives as food. It also cuts down on the bullshit glamor you see in some gangster movies. They aren't all sitting around a big dramatic table doing business like in the godfather, these dudes are talking about murder and extortion while making lunch. It humanizes them to show how inhuman they actually are.
@georgeedward1226
@georgeedward1226 2 жыл бұрын
With all the food references in the movie, I'm surprised it wasn't panned by the critics.
@mixolydian2010
@mixolydian2010 2 жыл бұрын
The phallic symbol in the kitchen scene is probably the Swan. Really enjoyed the video. Funny i always think of the too many onions scene when i am putting too many onions in my gravy, lol! Take it easy.
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 2 жыл бұрын
that caught my attention too, but didn't think of it that way.
@mixolydian2010
@mixolydian2010 2 жыл бұрын
@@collativelearning watched an art programme recently (waldemar januszczak) and naughty Jupiter appeared as a swan between her folded legs and arms, was about renaissance art in venice,they were mad for erotica lol, probably wouldn't have mentioned it otherwise . Cheers.
@Thespeedrap
@Thespeedrap 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rob maybe should review the movie 9 1/2 weeks with that food sex scene that would tickle your spine. Or even a scene in the not so great film dark comedy Goodbye Lover where Mary Louise Parker exposing her rear end and you see some apples on the shelf next to her.
@_scabs6669
@_scabs6669 2 жыл бұрын
"Living like pigs." Also it's interesting that Italian cuisine is full of pork
@jonzajdel5096
@jonzajdel5096 2 жыл бұрын
Always insightful Rob! Haven't seen any mention here but there are echoes of food culture (esp. the gangster character who frames the vignettes) in a neglected but great Japanese film called Tampopo that are massive tropes you revisit here. Give it a watch. I'm sure you'll agree it repays attention. Damn funny and profound too. Cheers on all the hard work.
@retractingblinds
@retractingblinds 2 жыл бұрын
As an Italian food is the binding foundation of all our doings, socializing, work and the very thing that drives us to our next destination, our days are not described in moments but the moments described in their recency to the last meal or bite to eat (big difference.) Any Italian film worth its salt will zero in on food!
@thomasarsenal5465
@thomasarsenal5465 2 ай бұрын
This is on the point bro great video. 🎉👏 this carries into Sopranos as well and I suppose it can be used to show how sociopathic the characters are in both; in the fact that they talk about each in the same breath like killings like cooking up drugs (baking a cake as the cop says) or killing someone. Think it's also used to reiterate their heritage and attachment to Italian culture (this is moreover in Sopranos than Goodfellas though) I've had similar convos with mates about the show and we didn't look into everything you mentioned in this having great relevance, but defo some great points. Cheers bro ❤
@moviearchaeologist9655
@moviearchaeologist9655 2 жыл бұрын
This was divine! Wolfed it down. Nicely prepared and served, thanks! I'll tell you what, the next time I come in your joint, I'll have The Texas Chainsaw Massacre analysis, I heard that is an acquired taste and a bit hard to swallow, but I also heard it's good for a balanced diet. 🐓🐓🐄🐄
@rong7496
@rong7496 2 жыл бұрын
The food scenes in this film remind me of family get-togethers that my family had when I was growing up.
@wickettwylie745
@wickettwylie745 2 жыл бұрын
glad you got this one out rob
@nu-metalfan2654
@nu-metalfan2654 2 жыл бұрын
There seems to be a lot of food and eating scenes in gangster and mafia movies, especially movies about Italian American gangsters. It’s like a clique to have your gangster movie have a lot of eating scenes. Tarantino also has a lot of eating scenes or dialogue about food in his movies.
@ellerose9164
@ellerose9164 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's only me but the big chopped watermelon with its red insides kind of reminds me of a head. The red colour similar to the red meat.
@MrFlinchenstein
@MrFlinchenstein 2 жыл бұрын
I think the food themes are both simple and complex. It offers a natural behavior to occupy characters and set pieces in almost any given scene, but also it's a display of providence. Many of the most widely worshiped ancient deities were those with command over agriculture. And there's a duplicity, with meat for instance, where there is the gruesome necessity of butchery before the luxurious pleasure of feeding. Cool idea for a video!
@blackfoxx86
@blackfoxx86 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to your Billy Batts analysis video? I really enjoyed that video.
@thebanished87
@thebanished87 6 ай бұрын
This analysis gives me an appetite
@Marc-dj5fk
@Marc-dj5fk Жыл бұрын
I think in goodfelllas the massive use of food is also to draw you in to their meals, their food, like you are also part of their family, engrossing you further into the movie and their world.
@nicd4vis
@nicd4vis 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of food themes in the Sopranos, seems like every episode they talk about Zitti Meat also is a big big theme too, Tony talks to Melfi about fainting when his parents cut meat AFTER he saw this father mutilate a butcher to collect money
@Chud_Bud_Supreme
@Chud_Bud_Supreme 2 жыл бұрын
Gabagool!
@hotkeyafl
@hotkeyafl 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this one. One of my favourite movies.
@TheSuperQuail
@TheSuperQuail 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the latest edition of 'Rob Ager changes the way you watch a film forever'
@lpr5269
@lpr5269 4 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: That part where they go to Tommy's mom's house. DeNiro rolled the ketchup bottle between his hands just like Jimmy Burke used to. DeNiro talked a lot with Henry about how Jimmy did things before filming.
@nicolashrv
@nicolashrv 2 жыл бұрын
Notice how Tommy's mom house has a LAST SUPPER picture under her clock........and Henry's dad's apartment also has a last supper picture over the fruit ornaments........Tommy's mom also have a lot of fruit under the Last Supper.....
@MeeCee5204
@MeeCee5204 9 ай бұрын
I never noticed all the food before, but I think it symbolizes an "eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die" type of mentality.
@MrOreo2010
@MrOreo2010 2 жыл бұрын
There's even a Henry Hill Wiseguy Cookbook What's interesting there is he connects the recipes with people and incidents in his life, it's almost Proustian
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 2 жыл бұрын
Lol didn't know about that one.
@stephenwalker2924
@stephenwalker2924 2 жыл бұрын
Good factoid. Love it. The whole story of the film is being told to us in flashback in the past tense. So the narration is one long memory. So every meal or eating experience is connected to a memory. It's a chain of connected Madeleines.
@SilvioManfredDante
@SilvioManfredDante 2 жыл бұрын
They used to eat heartily in the Gemini lounge while dead bodies were draining in the bathroom.
@avace917
@avace917 9 ай бұрын
You neglected to mention that the first shot of Henry as an adult is in front of Jackson Hole Diner in Queens, NY
@Maggerama
@Maggerama 2 жыл бұрын
Damn! Am I gullible or did you just make a perfect case for your point? Nah, I just enjoy being convinced when it's done right.
@jason41482
@jason41482 2 жыл бұрын
Rob, at 28:25 Paulie says we have to eat Sangwiches lol
@misterx420
@misterx420 6 ай бұрын
As others here have already stated, excellent analysis!
@mjkypta
@mjkypta 2 жыл бұрын
Epic can't wait to watch later. I've always loved the food scenes in this movie.
@Keithjmcc
@Keithjmcc Жыл бұрын
The sandwiches bit is for those who read the books dates. Tommy and Henry. Had to fetch sandwiches for the gangsters and decided that if they cut the restaurant out they would make more money. Both sandwich scenes referenced that.
@Orion-rl7js
@Orion-rl7js 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the other video of your breakdown of just the Billy Batz whack scene? I don't see it in your channel.
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 2 жыл бұрын
YT took it down. It's available on my site though.
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