Rob's biggest mistake was saying "If its not Bob, vote for me" Boston Rob would NEVER throw himself on a grenade like that....if I heard that at the round table, Id immediately clock Rob and Bob the Drag Queen as confirmed Traitors
@SpiffierShindigs12 күн бұрын
Yeah, saying you know for certain who a traitor is means you're a traitor, full stop. The faithfuls are going to do the same calculus they did last year when Dan called out Phaedra. "why would you take such a big swing if you weren't 100% sure? only traitors can be 100% sure." "
@garysalazar527911 күн бұрын
that's why you cant be on these shows. you are just too good and for sure will win these games!
@FellDownTheCornHole11 күн бұрын
rob was just looking for any excuse to throw a traitor under the bus
@anchoredsoul0911 күн бұрын
Boston Rob is next. I hope they recruit Robyn Dixon as a traitor
@syreetathibodeaux611411 күн бұрын
Look Poor Boston Rob! He didn’t have that mistake but Sir Efron making Rob throw and catch. He told him go for Bob the drag queen and he sat there like a pup looking dumbfounded
@Quorityler12 күн бұрын
The whole time I was watching the episode I was like “I CANT WAIT TO SEE WHAT ROB AND POOYAH SAY!”
@rhap11 күн бұрын
Thank you, QT
@stefawn_v12 күн бұрын
"Oh lord not Ekin-Su" vibes the entire episode
@anchoredsoul0911 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂 not Ekin-Su, Not Ekin-Su lol
@PYT76829 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@marabatt257111 күн бұрын
If they do get Rob out next, Carolyn will be completely safe because the survivor traitor box will be checked
@valentino441111 күн бұрын
Rob's decision to take out Bob was a good short term strategy but not a good long term strategy. He's about to repeat the same error as Dan did last season.
@SavvyAri198912 күн бұрын
Another good episode for my girl Carolyn. I still don't like the way folks are treating her, but so much of this can positively play into her hand so I'm happy.
@sideeffectv12 күн бұрын
Yes! The best part of the season is watching Carolyn stay completely outside of suspicion because all the other traitors are being so crazy. The best possible ending to this season is Carolyn winning the whole thing because no one suspects her.
@mnwild6211 күн бұрын
Carolyn can win this show by literally doing nothing. No one will ever suspect her and I don’t see anyone doing a traitor on traitor banishment on her
@sideeffectv11 күн бұрын
@@mnwild62 It would be glorious 🤣
@brightshining11 күн бұрын
She's been right about every single move and every single warning she's given, but it doesn't matter, because Bob is gonna reflect back on Rob, Jeremy is gonna come back on Danielle, she's been trying to be cautious in protecting them with the aftermath of their moves and setting themselves up to protect the traitors, but they haven't bothered to listen to her She's gonna win
@GeekyNerdTheatre12 күн бұрын
I disgree that this was a masterful move made by Rob. Rob is similar to Cirie in that he's willing to go with the flow until things don't go his way. But when Cirie locks in, she's very subtle. She never pissed off any of the other traitors. I really don't think it was worth it for Rob, especially when you now have Danielle mad at you and Carolyn has a very good reason to get rid of you. There's only two survivor players left, and Carolyn isn't the one they are going to be looking at. Bob messed up tonight, and Rob could have easily made this move without getting his hands as dirty. Move to make the votes happen but don't directly attack him at the roundtable.
@lazarusmetcalfe242312 күн бұрын
I agree it was bad to do . . . but if he did nit attack, Bob was not going home.
@lazarusmetcalfe242312 күн бұрын
*not
@watermelonsunsets12 күн бұрын
I would agree! To his strategic detriment, Bob has a lot more ego than Cirie. Too much to pull this off with the savvy comp folks-seems to be effective enough with non-reality comp ppl (thinking here and when comparing redemption island to winners at war)
@RLewis12312 күн бұрын
Yea Rob forced this move when it wasn’t even necessary for him
@SpiffierShindigs12 күн бұрын
Rob said he "shouldn't battle Bob at the roundtable" because it would alienate Carolyn and Danielle and that he'd "use the work [he's] done outside of the roundtable to blindside Bob". Then he battled Bob at the roundtable and alienated Carolyn and Danielle. That move is going to prove to be incredibly shortsighted for him.
@LewToons12 күн бұрын
Wes is poised to win. He is the only one in the house who knows how to deal with competition gamer people and regular reality people.
@jaredfreeley828312 күн бұрын
I feel the same way. For that reason I think he’s killed by next episode
@iannmichael12 күн бұрын
He gonna get Sandra’d.
@SweetRyGuy11 күн бұрын
Wes or Derrick as faithfuls (if they can lay low enough). Carolyn if a traitor wins is what I’m more confident in
@dbone51511 күн бұрын
Wes’s comment at the end of the episode about Rob’s certainty on Bob was 1 of the best reads in the show so far imo. His next best move is to get with Derrick since he was also part of “the late 3” and to make him aware of his suspicions (remember, Derrick also thinks 1 of the late 3 is a traitor so it’ll be easy for Wes to sway him on this) but tell him that they can’t put the target on Rob during the round tables just yet. Instead, both Derrick and Wes should cozy up to Rob (separately, not go up to him together), and accuse the other person since they’re “confident”that 1 of the 3 is a traitor. So, for example, Wes tells Rob he just has a hunch that it’s Derrick for that reason, and Derrick tells Rob in privacy he has a hunch it could be Wes for that reason…But, immediately after they tell Rob of their “hunches”, they then back pedal and say “but If we’re wrong and Derrick (or Wes) ends up being a faithful, then we’ll be screwed because the target on our backs will become MASSIVE knowing that everyone has a suspicion that 1 of us 3 is a traitor. So if we get that person wrong, they’ll then think it’s a 50/50 chance that it’s me or you, and whether it be the next vote or later down the road, our game is over.” Doing this would motivate Boston Rob to keep both Wes and Derrick in the game for as long as possible if they were to do this- giving Wes and Derrick enough time to really start observing Rob and to collect enough intel to make the case for Rob being the traitor later down the road (or saving him till the end). Ultimately, Wes knows Rob is a traitor, and Derrick knows that 1 of the 3 late arrivals is a Traitor (so either Wes or Rob). If Wes convinces Derrick about this, which I believe he will, they could be dangerous together if they play it right and don’t play the hand too soon..
@mnwild6211 күн бұрын
@@jaredfreeley8283Wes has a shield so he won’t get murdered and I’d be shocked if Rob doesn’t get banished next episode. Wes won’t be going anywhere
@ErikRedin12 күн бұрын
I agree with Pooya, killing Jeremy and then going after Bob were just two terrible game moves by Rob. It made for great television, but I don't see his path forward.
@aurei4412 күн бұрын
Killing Jeremy makes it look like non gamer types are in the turret, especially after he went after Bob. This can now be looked as Rob being worried seeing a survivor player voted out, and needing to get Bob a traitor before he can murder him, and it would make his actions looks rational. Now he has complete control in the turret and over the murders, which is what you want. I think he overcooked it with being 100% Bob was a traitor, but I can see why, Bob had a lot of pull. That looked suspicious.
@WypsotorNyloff11 күн бұрын
If this were a civillian season then bussing a traitor like this would probably work better - we saw this with Sam in TTAU2. But I think this crop of players is smarter than that, and Derrick/Wes should both be able to see Rob's game fully exposed now.
@j.486711 күн бұрын
@@aurei44You have Danielle confused with someone else if you think she's going to let Rob run the traitors/turret.
@kayt.b.956912 күн бұрын
Bob DQ took the first shot when at the challenge he looked at Rob and said one of the cage boys was a traitor. And then he smiled That’s when Rob was activated.
@reignbalboa12 күн бұрын
Exactly. The other traitors acted like Rob started it
@thesupersaiyanilluminati398512 күн бұрын
Well actually he was talking about Wes, at least that's what Bob has said about it after the fact. Though I didn't notice him looking at Rob.
@madjoker780012 күн бұрын
The looking at rob thing and smiling at rob can just be editing
@reignbalboa11 күн бұрын
@ he suggested one or more of the new guys was a traitor and didn’t specify further. Rob was a new guy. The end.
@Noahisaih11 күн бұрын
Yeah he talks way to much to make him look innocent and doesn’t think about what he’s saying but I don’t think it was a smart move for rob he should of at least talked to bob about it 😂
@love_reka_88774 күн бұрын
14:46 I am SOOOOO impressed by Dylan! He is soooooo intelligent and intuitive 🙏🏿 ahh chefs kiss
@jaredfreeley828312 күн бұрын
Wes vs Rob could be insane
@THE-LAND-33012 күн бұрын
Like King Kong vs Godzilla level.
@bryanbowers593511 күн бұрын
I think that’s the intent of the producers. They wanted at least two of the three late entrants to come for eachother
@seaofsolace11 күн бұрын
I think Boston Rob started laying it on thick because too many people were still on the fence, which caught him off guard. He didn’t have a way out and couldn’t backpedal, so he had to push through. There’s a scene where we see the panic in his eyes. He realized his mistake and had no choice but to double down. I think his mistake was underestimating his opponent and overestimating the votes he had before the round table. He will definitely have to do some damage control, and if anyone can do it, it’s him.
@zach439412 күн бұрын
INSANE EPISODE
@amberrrbri12 күн бұрын
oh you bet your ass I WILL be up in Bobs patreon telling him to come do an interview!!! I need this audience to get the real tea of what went down hahah
@noahlefebvre2911 күн бұрын
I think Bob will likely be doing a breakdown of the episodes on his own podcast once the season is done
@dbone51511 күн бұрын
Wes’s comment at the end of the episode about Rob’s certainty on Bob was 1 of the best reads in the show so far imo. His next best move is to get with Derrick since he was also part of “the late 3” and to make him aware of his suspicions (remember, Derrick also thinks 1 of the late 3 is a traitor so it’ll be easy for Wes to sway him on this) but tell him that they can’t put the target on Rob during the round tables just yet. Instead, both Derrick and Wes should cozy up to Rob (separately, not go up to him together), and accuse the other person since they’re “confident”that 1 of the 3 is a traitor. So, for example, Wes tells Rob he just has a hunch that it’s Derrick for that reason, and Derrick tells Rob in privacy he has a hunch it could be Wes for that reason…But, immediately after they tell Rob of their “hunches”, they then back pedal and say “but If we’re wrong and Derrick (or Wes) ends up being a faithful, then we’ll be screwed because the target on our backs will become MASSIVE knowing that everyone has a suspicion that 1 of us 3 is a traitor. So if we get that person wrong, they’ll then think it’s a 50/50 chance that it’s me or you, and whether it be the next vote or later down the road, our game is over.” Doing this would motivate Boston Rob to keep both Wes and Derrick in the game for as long as possible if they were to do this- giving Wes and Derrick enough time to really start observing Rob and to collect enough intel to make the case for Rob being the traitor later down the road (or saving him till the end). Ultimately, Wes knows Rob is a traitor, and Derrick knows that 1 of the 3 late arrivals is a Traitor (so either Wes or Rob). If Wes convinces Derrick about this, which I believe he will, they could be dangerous together if they play it right and don’t play the hand too soon.
@tribid_8811 күн бұрын
What if Rob hears this theory and spins it says Wes is a traitor to throw Derrick and Rob under the bus?
@valentino441111 күн бұрын
Unpopular opinion: BTDQ can only blame himself for his own banishment. BTDQ was very beloved among his cast and built loyalty yet he made a common mistake of doing/talking way too much unneccesarily in this episode. For example, on the way back home from the team event, BTDQ was seen/heard bragging in the van about how "everyone knows he's a faithful and no one think he's a traitor", or his statement about "how the guys who just joined might be a traitor" or how he was seen disencouraging Ciara during stone head team event by saying "dont worry about getting your shield because EVERYONE thinks you are a traitor." In order words, he did way too much unnecessary talking in this episode. Rob wouldve never gone after him until he indirectly accused the "new guys" of being potential traitors. BTDQ didnt even need to add suspicion to three guys who just joined the cast because Ciara and Nikki were already gaining suspicion and were likely to get banished. BTDQ should've waited until after Ciara and/or Nikki were banished before he aimed suspicion towards the "new guys." At tonight's Round Table, as a response to Rob's accusation towards, BTDQ shouldve responded by pointing out that it was Rob who sprearheaded the banishment of Tony who ended up being a faithful. BTDQ previously voted for Ivar two weeks in a row and has never officially banished a faithful, unlike Rob who voted out Tony & Tony seemed most betrayed by Rob than anyone else in the house. BTDQ should've also pointed out how Rob was rejected by the cast in Ep 1 yet still ended back in the house & he's most likely to get revenge on the cast for initially rejecting him and therefore would be the best candidate to be a traitor. If BTDQ was able to banish Rob instead of the reverse, BTDQ would've been able to reduce Dylan's suspicion towards him & gain him as an ally. Danielle & Carolyn gave away their power by voting BTDQ out because some ppl who mightve not trusted Rob will began to trust Rob which makes them much more vulnerable now than ever because Rob has to eventually take all of his fellow traitors out in order to maintain that trust. I think Rob's decision to take out Bob was a good short term strategy but i have a feeling that it will put more suspicion on him in the long run. The cast doesn't know that Wes is one of reality tv's most strategic and smartest stars so it's best that the traitors take him out sooner than later.
@tribid_8811 күн бұрын
I agree with most of this but Wes made mistakes on HOV
@valentino441111 күн бұрын
@tribid_88 well every reality star competitor makes mistakes especially of you've been do I bg reality as long as Wes has..he was first on Real World years ago.
@balldalt12 күн бұрын
Rob just made the same exact mistake Dan made last season. Bad move. I hope Danielle and Carolyn get him!
@nafiyy7712 күн бұрын
No. Rob more strategic and he have people with him. Dan is not, pls rewatch last season
@graphiquejack12 күн бұрын
@@nafiyy77 Wes has already sussed him out. Rob is gone next. Everyone's going to remember that Bob voted for him, and that Rob was whispering Bob's name to everyone. How convenient he takes out a traitor. This is traitor v traitor and the other traitors now have no reason to trust him. Foolish, but everyone's playing pretty badly except for Carolyn.
@drewroddy11 күн бұрын
@@nafiyy77 rob needs a MAJORITY with him to make this a strategically sound move, and he doesn't have that.
@nafiyy7711 күн бұрын
win or not I'm not really sure but Boston Rob will go far in this game, he's smart and he will figure out to handle this. Trust me
@dantebuchanan851311 күн бұрын
@drewroddyWhen you say majority who are you referring to? The people who are on to Rob are gamers. Two of which are also traitors.Wes and Derek likely suspected Rob was a traitor before this round table. The majority of the faithful think Rob’s a hero. If a move is made against him by say Wes, in order for it to work he’s going to need to have built enough social capital with the other faithfuls that I’m not convinced Wes has gained yet. Rob just helped the faithfuls banish a traitor. Wes accused Nikki Bella of being a traitor. As a faithful you could easily look at Wes and ask why are you targeting the one guy that helped us get a traitor. And it’s not like Wes can say if I was a traitor I would’ve murdered him because Rob has a shield. Getting rid of Rob is not going to be as simple as people are thinking especially next episode.
@TXBornNBred11 күн бұрын
Also...Bob TDQ drop a crumb during the round table...Bob said something like " I CAN TELL You the Traitors are scared of me." Then Wes clocked the fact that Boston Rob said I KNOW you're a traitor...only way you KNOW that is if you're a traitor.
@ambrosemoonchild198512 күн бұрын
So far, I think Survivors make my favorite traitors, but folks from the Challenge make the most interesting faithfuls (or maybe I'm just obsessed with Wes😂)
@sideeffectv12 күн бұрын
I think anyone outside of survivors and challengers are going to struggle against them. They are the best gamers in every show they are in.
@RobAntol5 күн бұрын
The key is Wes and Derrick figuring out Rob without being murdered and banished
@CoryGasaway10 күн бұрын
Wes vs Rob is a reality tv comp showdown I would never have expected to get a couple of years ago. This show is like a crossover comic book or a reality tv multiverse
@sideeffectv12 күн бұрын
Wes has rob clocked now and I don't think Rob sees him coming. Wes has been on a lot of the challenge seasons and is not someone you want looking at you. Rob may find that out fast.
@jaynordiaz460912 күн бұрын
If Danielle gets one over Rob in the coming episodes she will forever be Queen!!
@joelikesrealitycompshows348612 күн бұрын
Danielle and Bob the drag queen we’re doing way too much way too early and these people aren’t stupid but then Bob the drag queen calls out Rob or one of the three late guys to come in as being a traitor is just again him doing too much. The name of the game is to win And who the hell cares if Danielle gets one over on Rob. I personally was not a fan of Bob the drag queen and Danielle disregarding everything that Carolyn says and if Danielle is as good as she thinks she is, she might want to start playing a better game instead of worrying about Rob.
@nafiyy7712 күн бұрын
Dannielle will be banished soon
@StraighttalkwithBobby7 күн бұрын
@@nafiyy77Rob will go before Danielle guaranteed!
@kevanmcdougallmph12 күн бұрын
Rob is very short sighted. Playing like this doesn't work in the Traitors. He's already a big name, is now the only male Survivor player left, and now has drawn significant attention for being so confident out of nowhere about Bob. He's shown Danielle and Carolyn that he could turn on either of them at any point. Danielle is livid and Carolyn is frustrated beyond belief of not being listened to and not having control. The only way I foresee this being successful is if this season just becomes a bro show or if there are major alliances formed to turn this just into a numbers game.
@graphiquejack12 күн бұрын
exactly. Danielle and Carolyn need to take out Rob now.. he can't be trusted.
@brightshining11 күн бұрын
It's gonna be impossibly difficult to move the hurdle he now has ahead of him & clean up the mess :p
@intellextualweq383011 күн бұрын
When Rob lead the charge in getting Bob out. I knew he would expose himself and just watching Wes from the challenge,I knew he would clock it. I thought Efron would clock him after the round table too but Rob came in to stroke his ego. So he’s on cloud nine, idk if he is coming back down to reality. 😂
@brightshining11 күн бұрын
He's gotta talk to Wes I think he can see the reality of what's there down the line
@garysalazar527911 күн бұрын
Rob prioritizes wanting to be the last survivor instead of winning Traitors.
@eckology01612 күн бұрын
This is why you really should at least watch these shows a bit before you go on them. Rob literally made every single mistake in the book tonight. He won the battle but will inevitably lose the war. At least there was some sus on Bob beforehand, so it's not AS bad as some Traitors who unrealistically nailed their targets based on little evidence in a way where the confidence only works if you know 100% that they're a traitor, but he even went so far to do the 'if I'm wrong, vote for me' thing that always gets the traitor that gets their partner out banished shortly thereafter. If I'm a faithful, I'm making absolutely no guarantees like that because how could I possibly be 100% sure?
@lazarusmetcalfe242312 күн бұрын
I think he honestly just wanted to get Bob out first. The theory of the new guys was likely circulating anyway, but Bob pushing it, when they eventually vote for Wes and he is faithful, there’s only 2 shots left to take after. Rob couldn’t really not see it as a threat. He’d rather go down being too aggressive than let Bob get him.
@FisherRox12 күн бұрын
So exciting! I'm ready to watch it again but have to see what Rob and Pooya have to say 😮😅
@valentino441111 күн бұрын
The cast doesn't realize that Wes is one of reality tv's most strategic/smartest players but they're about to find out. Traitors better kill him next.
@erikaloeser12 күн бұрын
Derrick is coming for Rockin’ Rob! His name is Sam…
@MarshaHamann12 күн бұрын
Danielle. & Carolyn gonna get Rob out!!
@HopeAndrea_HFG11 күн бұрын
Boston Rob is playing a role. I'm not even convinced that he actually wants to win vs. make a splash. Splash means more public awareness, more appearance fees, etc.
@annrodriguez289111 күн бұрын
He has a family to feed...He wants to win ..
@CraigThurston201411 күн бұрын
Lol@@annrodriguez2891
@drewroddy11 күн бұрын
rob made an okay short-term game move, but this is terrible for him in the long-run. he's gonna be gone within the next couple of roundtables.
@Oh_Em_Gee_11 күн бұрын
I think from BRob's perspective...if Derrick or Wes gets banished (or murdered by the other Traitors) *and* the narrative is that one of the cage boys is a Traitor, it narrows it down to a 50/50 shot that BRob is a Traitor.
@iamassyl11 күн бұрын
if i was in the house, i’ll look out for ppl who look the most tired or sleepy. It’s a known fact that contestants don’t live in the castle. The traitors also have to be up late at night because of the murdering. Someone said last year that traitors had like 2-3 hours of sleep because of that.
@Tabbyomwenga9 күн бұрын
Oooh now it makes sense why Rob's left eye was blood shot at breakfast on episode 3
@Camanater9811 күн бұрын
I f***ing love your Boston Rob voice 😂 excuse my profanity
@annrodriguez289111 күн бұрын
This is why Traitors is 🔥 fire ❤
@funnymanatee10 күн бұрын
30:39 Love this thank you for the compliment return banter! Great chemistry.
@iamHispen11 күн бұрын
For the Faithfuls who have watched other seasons, when Rob is not killed, everyone who doesn't suspect Rob, should.
@Entertainment-os4ig12 күн бұрын
Yup. Boston Rob makes good tv. Still. Go Carolyn!
@graphiquejack12 күн бұрын
he's trash. that was a bonehead move... now he's pissed off his fellow traitors who clearly can't trust him, and when someone guns that hard for someone at the table and they end up being a traitor, you've just put a bullseye on your back. Obviously Bob is going to vote for Rob, and everyone will remember that. He's gone next banishment.
@JodyDavis-ev6ti12 күн бұрын
Great episode and great coverage Pooya & Rob!!
@bryanbowers593511 күн бұрын
There’s so many psychological layers to the game players that advance the plot of the show. Rob is smart enough to know that at least Wes(my goat)has clocked him. I think because of this his plan is to recruit Wes instead of murdering him. But with that being said I still think those two will be going at it even if they get on the same side. They need one to be exposed as a traitor to get heat off the other. It’s going to be an interesting psychological warfare between the two. Wes was a guest on this podcast so we know for sure that he watched it. CT is his close personal friend. I think especially since it seems that a lot of people there don’t know his resume he might be able to fly under the radar just enough to get far in the game to make a run. In all his challenge seasons he’s been very good at mobilizing people that are new to this type of environment. He’s going to have to be able to get things done without getting blood on his hands and he’s going to have to get a shield or two to make it
@WENDYLFTX12 күн бұрын
I hope these players don't know how good Wes is, I hope he can get to the end and win. I believe the Challenge players are the best all around reality competition players. I hope Wes proves me right like CT and Trishelle did.
@balldalt12 күн бұрын
Yes. I hope we get some more of the women from the Challenge next season since we've already had the main three men. I imagine we might get Jordan. I would love to see Cara, Laurel, Coral, Jemmye, etc.
@WENDYLFTX11 күн бұрын
@@balldalt Oh, I agree. They would all be amazing!!
@bryanbowers593511 күн бұрын
I think Aneesa and Josh are locks to be on this show at some point.
@WENDYLFTX11 күн бұрын
@@bryanbowers5935Oh, I would not like either one of them. Josh is far too emotional.
@bryanbowers593511 күн бұрын
@ I don’t either. I’m just saying I think that’s the next two that will get a call. I think ct even said in an interview Aneesa would be good. You know who would be fun though? Sarah Rice
@sethtanner111 күн бұрын
As pooya & Scally always say, if you say if I’m wrong, vote me next. You’re a traitor!
@funnymanatee10 күн бұрын
22:58 Fantastic idea! Love it Rob!
@jenniferd54779 күн бұрын
BOB WAS COMING FOR ROBBBBBBB!!! Rob had no choice but to get him out ❤ 😊
@kaicruz99129 күн бұрын
There was a HUGE missed opportunity for all 4 Survivors to have worked as allies. They should have talked about it immediately and should have said, “Look there’s 4 of us here. Most likely one of us is a traitor. But let’s stick together final 4.” - but instead their game play is so bad.
@DoloresLea12 күн бұрын
Best round table. If you are not a patron you have to join because the watch party discord is the best! We were having a blast!!
@Ukay-o6z12 күн бұрын
I didnt know there was a discord watch party for Patrons! Next week❤
@DoloresLea12 күн бұрын
@ there is. They even stream the episode. We have such a fun time
@marybelle12 күн бұрын
I didn't know there was a watch party!!
@AspenCharmCakes12 күн бұрын
Didn’t know it existed, thanks!!
@26days12 күн бұрын
i think boston rob, up until this point, was trying to figure out who he can move forward with. he was trying to make it work with his fellow traitors but once bob the drag queen brought the cage boys up, rob counted bob as a number against him. after trying to save bob at the previous round table, i think it hit him extra hard that bob brought attention to him. the traitors weren't working harmoniously anyway so might as well jump ship. ultimately, i think this is a good move for him as it breaks up the bob-danielle pair, he gains trust and numbers with the faithfuls (+ a ride or die in dylan), and doesn't have to rely on traitor numbers to advance. i haven't seen other traitors franchises so it's interesting to try to see a traitor just play a numbers game and not necessarily work with their fellow traitors. we saw this from sandra last season from the faithful side, but it excited to see how this plays out with a traitor at the forefront.
@RLewis12311 күн бұрын
It’s never worked. I’ve watched all traitor franchises. Even when traitors try to ally or play the numbers with faithful, if they are obvious/sloppy about it then it doesn’t work -and Rob is being sloppy by going so hard so quickly out of no where. Even if he goes deep, the faithful will put two and two together and get him out eventually because the incentive for them to do so ($$$) is always there.
@sebastianmedina222311 күн бұрын
Didn't the traitor successfully do this in the UK season 2?
@StraighttalkwithBobby7 күн бұрын
I doesn’t work. It’s way too early to play hardball and this aggressively. Traitors is a different game than survivor. Your only goal is not to get to the end of the game you don’t want to be figured out as a traitor so you have to lie and backstab. You can’t play aggressively and put a target in your back. I think Rob played selfishly as Bob did throw the three late entry’s under the bus, however if Rob was smart he would’ve turned it on Wes. Think about it!!!! If Nikki went home last week and she was a faithful Rob could’ve said I think Wes is a traitor for diverting us to Nikki maybe Bob was right. I just don’t think this helped his game he went from being unsuspected to placing a massive target on his back! Not a good move!😊
@sebastianmedina22237 күн бұрын
@@StraighttalkwithBobby but then Wed would have said he's a faithful then the heat goes to Rob again
@StraighttalkwithBobby7 күн бұрын
@@sebastianmedina2223 or Derrick! I also think it could’ve went back to Bob for calling them out. I think Rob was too boisterous in taking out Bob. It’s not a bad move down the line but he did it too early and too aggressively that I think I’m a few weeks it’ll backfire on him!
@Raynore9994 күн бұрын
Pooya asking how Wes is going to rally up the troops? This is literally what Wes does. He gets the rookies to help him get further in the game. And has taken out legends in the Challenge doing so.
@lazarusmetcalfe242312 күн бұрын
My thoughts: *Bob was going for Rob eventually. I do not care that he allegedly claims the comment was aimed at Wes. Bob is playing a front running game, now being the cheerleader in voicing in front of all that a new guy is likely a traitor. If they vote Wes off then he is eliminated, it’s just 2 more to vote after that. He would get vindication in going after Rob, getting a legend out, etc. *This may actually be my least favorite group of Traitors “strategically” so far. Bob controlled too much and Dani was just going to roll with him. Carolyn isn’t even fighting back much and just giving in. Rob does make a power move when threatened, but he stupidly allowed Jeremy and Tony (who would have been votes in his pocket) go! Now Carolyn is all of a sudden pissed at Rob when Bob/Dani were already strong arming her too. All over the place. Of any season so far, rooting for the faithful win.
@aisharedux78110 күн бұрын
I think Rob could’ve played it off a little, like he was just growing in suspicion about Bob. But he presented it with the brazen certainty of a man with actual intel and Wes clocked it. I feel like Danielle will be Rob’s undoing and they’ll have to start recruiting in new traitors. I want to see how Dylan would play as a traitor!
@StraighttalkwithBobby7 күн бұрын
He plays too aggressively! I think Daniele will last longer. Especially without Bob.
@lorij418411 күн бұрын
Carolyn just follows the other traitors. She never pushes back.
@aurei4412 күн бұрын
Poker superstar Daniel Negraneu has voiced interest in being on traitors. It was rumored that survivor wanted him on a while ago. Many survivor sensations, poker players, radio hosts, podcasters could also be on a future season.
@handsoaphandsoap11 күн бұрын
Not to spoil but other international Traitors have done exactly what Boston Rob did here and they were mostly successful. However, they did it during a time when Traitors was a younger show and with a cast of players that aren’t experienced reality TV players. I think this’ll blow up in Rob’s face and it’s only inevitable for him to get got at some banishment.
@Weinzierl197311 күн бұрын
R & P I think doing some anti-Derrick bias because he attacked Bloom last week - Derrick didn't say he didn't like profanity, he said in his experience, while being questioned people will get louder and use profanity as a way to emphasize they "really mean their lie" which was a warning sign for him on Cierra. He never said she was a traitor because she swore. (I'm paraphrasing Derrick BTW, not word for word)
@SirChristopher36510 күн бұрын
The fact that the Shields only protect you from murder, but not banishment, means that a player like Rob cannot play this hard this early, and win. The Sandras and Ciries of the world will always have a much better shot on Traitors, because they know that UTR works much better in this game.
@TheRy00811 күн бұрын
Yall forgetting Rob banished tony for Bob the drag queen, but knowing when he sense danger, he eliminates. All you need to know is a little whisper can lead a long way… and no one one wants someone who always whisper…
@josephlim685411 күн бұрын
@18:34 to be fair Carolyn pushed back on it and tried to save Jeremy but she was outnumbered. @22:45 but casting normally put folks who make good tv, no? I'm only familiar with the Survivor folks.
@tzxyuaesthetics933811 күн бұрын
depends how they play. rob's not long for this game by reputation alone, but a smart faithful would keep a traitor they could guess correctly to end if they know he'll keep them safe. i think wes and derrick are smart enough for that. i think that's his path to the end but he has no path to win
@erikaloeser12 күн бұрын
Can’t kill a cage boy yet
@willmajones38310 күн бұрын
Eventually, Danielle and Carolyn, I can't see working together.
@diflan22509 күн бұрын
Couldn’t find this episode on Spotify
@WhereRMyKeysss9 күн бұрын
Omg ROB THE BERET 😂😂😂😂
@GeoRune12 күн бұрын
Such a good one
@jackeyfung543410 күн бұрын
this recap podcast no longer on the spotify feed?
@zid90200211 күн бұрын
Rob coming in thinking he can play a Redemption Island game and exert control but was met with Bob The Drag Queen, got intimidated, and decided Bob needs to go for him to be able to control the turret discussions and the traitors' moves. It's so barf
@brandimcgoff862612 күн бұрын
Is Derrick turning into a Karen?
@WypsotorNyloff11 күн бұрын
The "next time on" preview really felt like a setup to a Danielle boot unfortunately
@londonbordeaux11 күн бұрын
we know damn eell she's gonna flop
@StraighttalkwithBobby7 күн бұрын
I feel the opposite. I think she’s going to flourish now that Bob is gone. Danielle is great at the floater type game which is beneficial here. I think Rob is out soon’
@LeahB3110 күн бұрын
Is it just me or is there a weird visual/lighting effect in the confessionals this season? Everyone looks like they are under water or something with glowing eyes and teeth. It’s making people look weird.
@trill71112 күн бұрын
*_Best show ever!!!!!!_*
@SirChristopher36510 күн бұрын
Also, Bob the DQ has clearly never seen Zac Efron in "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile" where he played Ted Bundy. He might not wanna mess with the guy!
@LLAMAWILDBILL8 күн бұрын
Can’t get rid of the cage bros cause it narrows you down as the one who is the trader
@flop956211 күн бұрын
I rly feel like some of the weird moves/callouts these players are making have reasoning behind them that the producers aren’t allowing them to state openly. idk why the producers are soooo committed to maintaining the illusion that the gameplay is fully black and white, traitors vs. faithful; the closest we’ve gotten to players admitting (on the actual show) to having other strategies thus far were Wes’s “anyone but me” and Gabby saying she wouldn’t be ready to let go of Nikki yet even if she’s a traitor. I love this show but I think it could be so much more interesting if it weren’t so heavily produced and players’ confessionals weren’t so policed. There’s a lot about the fundamental format of the game that will definitely need to change in future seasons bc if it doesn’t, I can see the gameplay becoming really boring and nonsensical to viewers
@CatDad9511 күн бұрын
I love Bob and I’m a huge fan of his, but he made plenty of mistakes. However, I don’t agree with how disrespectful Rob was of Bob by calling him “the drag queen”. You two are my favorite reviewers of traitors by the way! ❤
@mirandarosalie10 күн бұрын
pooya you could never give the ick
@jones87712 күн бұрын
The only way i see rob moving forward is he recruits faithfuls and sacrifices danielle. Makes a devils bargain with wes
@Lizaw40228 күн бұрын
Where is Pooya covering traitors uk?
@hannahlindstrom96329 күн бұрын
Rob NEEDS to recruit Wes to be a traitor & then throw him under the bus and get him banished. That is the ONLY way he can clear his name to be free of the "caged boys" narrative. If he can pull this off - he wins the season no question.
@lexeiy173011 күн бұрын
So sad to see Jeremy leave so early. Since Episode 1, both Danielle & Bob The Drag Queen were drawing attention to themselves by talking way too much. I believe Bob created his own demise & Danielle needs to be careful because the same can happen to her in this game. Boston Rob is definitely a legend! Rob is a strategic player, regardless of the game (ex. DONDI, Survivor, etc.) and Danielle needs to be more strategic & less of an emotional player.Wes is coming for Boston Rob & others may start calling Boston Rob "A Traitor" soon enough...We will see how he handles it on the next upcoming episodes.
@Droop7511 күн бұрын
What protections does production have from a traitor airing out another traitor after being voted out? I assume they are told they will be sued if they do so?
@brightshining11 күн бұрын
I think it's part of the contract or something Like if hey do that, they don't get paid, I might presume as well?
@Droop7511 күн бұрын
I’ve thought that too and I’m sure it’s in the contract as well but what do they get paid? I suppose it depends on how popular they are but it can’t be a huge amount of money to where in the heat of the moment it’s enough to prevent that. That’s such a possibly game breaking event that could just ruin the show that I’m worried it may happen at some point. The only way you can absolutely prevent that is to make it to where the traitors don’t k ow each others identity but I don’t see anyway to make that work with them murdering faithfuls in unity
@HugoSH9312 күн бұрын
If losing Bob TDQ gets Rob banished sooner rather later, I’m here for it.
@galbaum3311 күн бұрын
20:26 Rob is basically saying "Please cast me".
@karenlaborte872112 күн бұрын
I love Boston Rob! He nailed it! Can’t stand Danielle!
@OctoberGirl1612 күн бұрын
OMG that was insane!
@joemodest11 күн бұрын
Meta Gaming this Traitors show keeps me both worried and excited at the same time (tbh want to see this happen). I wonder if producers would either not tolerate it or just heavily lean on it and form a narrative from there. Like what if the conversations are about meta gaming Genders on traitors (is it all women? or 2F 1M ?), alliances (survivor/bravo/big brother) and voting blocks; Vote a survivor player this round regardless just to lower the numbers, then next week vote from big brother, etc.... and you can control and navigate that if you got the numbers like literally you can do it. With these conversations and meta gaming you will lose the traitors-faithful narrative and would inevitably be like a big brother/survivor game show instead
@yogabagoof11 күн бұрын
58:09 I would call it a cacophonic word 😎
@brain_melt11 күн бұрын
I’ve never watched Boston Rob on Survivor before, and this episode completely sold me on him. The way he was able to go toe-to-toe with Bob and the boldness of his gameplay is so entertaining
@Qsurvivorfan11 күн бұрын
In a vacuum I think this is one of b robs most impressive moves. But if I was a faithful I’d be gunning after anyone who is spearheading the effort to successfully get a traitor out. It’s just a pattern at this point and I don’t think b Rob is long for the castle
@karenlaborte87217 күн бұрын
Rob had to vote for Bob the DQ to break up Bob and Danielle. Danielle wanted Jeremy out because he was on to her. Stop putting Rob down for the great moves he has made.
@walkernetwork203911 күн бұрын
3:59 COMPLETELY AGREE i have been saying this and no one agrees lol. he can’t win this season i fear
@leamcdonald208511 күн бұрын
But Danielle named Bob DQ at Banishment hmmm
@kandeekane110 күн бұрын
Robs first mistake was to warn Danielle that she was over doing it and people were suspecting her. She was so fake and over the top the 1st couple episodes. It was a dead give away. Rob should have just stayed silent and let them go after her. That way he isn't spear heading it and pushing for it the way he did with Bob. Some of these people are just too $tupid and gullible. They have the worst reads. Jeremy clocked Danielle over doing things and suspected her. Dylan suspected Bob cuz he's always so overbearing about everything and attacking anyone who says his name. All the other chuckle heads suspected those insignificant girls for the dummest reasons. I think Rob put a nail in his own coffin going that hard against Bob. He should have just let Danielle and Bob bury themselves. Rob isn't going to split the money at the end with 3 other people so it made no sense that Rob risked his game to protect a terrible player like Danielle. And i like Danielle. She's the best big brother player to never have won. But she's a horrible traitor.
@stevenjohnson71858 күн бұрын
Boston Rob made one of the worst moves I’ve ever seen a traitor make, that was way too early, way too obvious. Bad bad move
@MarinaMarina-fr8ex10 күн бұрын
Rob is my all time favorite in all TV shows, but he won't survive long after this
@Deathdealer-f6o11 күн бұрын
Danielle should of reacted more to bob saying am a traitor more also she has to get rob out to make it to the end also Caroly playing the best right now no ones is sus of her at all she need to keep playing up her social anxiety, and awkwardness
@StraighttalkwithBobby7 күн бұрын
Danielle did react she jumped up and was so happy!
@nafiyy7712 күн бұрын
This is the right move by Boston Rob blindside Bob Queen. Delicious ❤❤❤❤ Rob, either you win or not.. you are my favorite this season
@graphiquejack12 күн бұрын
he's next. everyone knows that when someone comes that hard for an eventual traitor, and the traitor then goes after you, it's a traitor v traitor situation. Wes has already sussed it, plus Carolyn and Danielle now know that Rob will sell them out the first chance he gets, so they have to band together to nuke him. This was foolhardy. He's gonna have traitors and faithfuls coming for him.
@nredd12 күн бұрын
Dumb emotional move gonna bite him in the butt later
@RLewis12312 күн бұрын
Never claim you are 100 percent certain someone is a traitor and offer for faithfuls to vote you off if you’re wrong this early with very little evidence (a real faithful wouldn’t act with such certainty in those conditions). It is so suspect! Rob won this battle but he’s not winning the war because he fought too hard too early.
@intellextualweq383011 күн бұрын
I hate saying this but Wes could win this. I personally hate how cocky and arrogant he is but one thing he is good at is questioning everything. Hope Rob doesn’t discover he’s on his trail though.
@tcraigg456311 күн бұрын
Boston Rob was too aggressive and too confident. He basically put eyes on him that werent on him before. He talked to too many people, he said to vote for him if they don't vote for Bob, he hammered on Bob at the table over and over. Survivors technique is not great for Traitors. This was an awesome episode though.