2011-12-03, Hartwall Arena, Helsinki, Finland, WBA, WBO Inter-Continental Heavyweight Title, vacant EBU European Heavyweight Title.
Пікірлер: 118
@JB-zc2zq2 жыл бұрын
Amazing toe to toe fight, one of the most exciting fights of Helenius' career, but overall it was a really good performance by Chisora imo.
@sexydudeuk2172 Жыл бұрын
And he was robbed for it to
@Think_12349 ай бұрын
@@sexydudeuk2172 If someone robbed Chisora here, it was the referee. That treatment was unfair. But the judges scoring this fight cannot compensate for that when they are scoring the rounds. And while those scores were as debatable after any tight fight, they were fine.
@RustyLongPipe3 жыл бұрын
Helenius looked 10 years older ten years ago
@sarty233 жыл бұрын
Thats so true! Like a middle aged taxi driver
@allboxing98513 жыл бұрын
@@sarty23 yes and if you try take run away taxi they coming after you
@thetruesquad50592 жыл бұрын
lol
@kevthegoat87742 жыл бұрын
Great fight ruined by an awful decision, definitely one of the best performances of Chisora's career. I remember when Helenius was hyped up as the next big thing until this fight happened.
@351clevelandmodifiedmotor42 жыл бұрын
robert looked really bad, like a drunk librarian trying to fight
@Pepperoni421 Жыл бұрын
Like the commentary said: "if chisora wants to win here, he needs to win big." Thats an unwritten rule, when you come to someones backyard. The fight was in helsinki, sure they favored helenius here. Chisora performance was good and in england he would have won that, but it was not good enough for a win in helsinki and i think thats kind of ok. Same with pulev/ chisora 2. In bulgaria pulev maybe won that. It was close. But as i said, you must do more to win in someones backyard.
@nickbamber2683 жыл бұрын
I noticed a former Finnish president in the crowd. A show for the locals. The decision went accordingly. Hui helvetti!
@mrwoozie17353 жыл бұрын
Comparing 2011 Helenius with today Helenius is intresting. He looks much stronger now, and has better technique, he should have a titleshot. Chisora went the other way, he has been done for the last five years.
@allboxing98513 жыл бұрын
Chisora take like idiot Usyk Fight maybe for the money .,hes top dog opponent who dont move much
@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin3 жыл бұрын
They are both much improved and in far better condition.
@АртемДовгаль-ф6л2 жыл бұрын
@@allboxing9851 He is ain't idiot, he gave Usyk good fight
@thetruesquad50592 жыл бұрын
that's cap lmao Chisora beat Pulev
@Byronic19134 Жыл бұрын
@@allboxing9851 Nah War Chisora settled into his role as the gate keeper for legit elite championship level boxing.
@blueshirtguy90072 жыл бұрын
Chisora won this fight. He’s been robbed on so many occasions
@telp14163 жыл бұрын
Chisora clearly won this, not by a lot, but he won it
@rcfun44874 ай бұрын
”Clearly”😂 Chisora got beaten
@oldtimer763512 күн бұрын
BS! He punched the air mostly! Helenius was much more accurate.
@CHOPPA783 жыл бұрын
Wow to be fair thats the best I've ever seen chisora and I think he won that fight .helenius gassed out too quick and had nothing in the tank the last four or so rounds , I think he'd struggle against fury especially in the later rounds.
@dominiceliakim46172 жыл бұрын
He ate very many body shots
@jamesbainbridge43843 жыл бұрын
I had it 119-111 for Chisora. Struggled to give Helenius any rounds. Robbery
@johndawhale31973 жыл бұрын
I had Chisora winning by 2 points.
@nordicfights29063 жыл бұрын
You need glasses.
@shaadydog13 жыл бұрын
I knew fromn rd 1 this was fixed, Chisora being hassled by the ref for everything but Helenious gets to push, hold etc no warnings...
@PaddyAztec3 жыл бұрын
@@nordicfights2906 You need a brain.
@mrbo28673 жыл бұрын
Glad you aren't a boxing judge Jamie Bainbridge. Helenius won plenty of rounds, I will grant you there were some close ones you could swing either way. I think the outcome was as fair as it could be. Hard to find a clear victor 7-5 either way I'm fine with...home fighter gets the nod....idk
@anttikekkonen3 жыл бұрын
Hidastuksella kun katsoo lyöntien perille menoa, niin ihmettelen miten joku voi edes provona kyseenalaistaa voittajaa, pienemmän lyönnit menee suurimmalta osin hanskoille.
@GabrielManek-m5k3 ай бұрын
Yg tinggi kewalahan Krn SDH tua, krg lincah, sdgkn lawan msh muda lincah
@TrashBoxer2842 жыл бұрын
I tried to look at this as unbiased as possible, and as I like both these fighters I think I came fairly close to it. I have it 115-113 to Chisora, BUT there are a lot of swing rounds that, depending on if you like a couple of powershots over more jabs are very hard to score. Chisora is hitting a lot of gloves and arms in many of the rounds. So, even though I would have given it to Chisora, I must say it is not that easy to score.
@joejaga2 жыл бұрын
Very fair
@stomingaben2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it could have gone either way, even a draw would have been fair
@aybz92 жыл бұрын
The decision was a disgrace, as was Duke Mckenzie's scoring. Chisora won the fight fair and square. I scored it 8-3 with one even. Del Boy was badly screwed in this one.
@stevedavidson5038 Жыл бұрын
Facts! Why are people saying this was a close fight? Helenius did nothing in the last 5 rounds!
@yinkaomolaja32666 ай бұрын
Craziest decision in boxing. Those judges need to be banned for life from any boxing match. Chisora clearly won a unanimous decision
@jamiesherrard72632 жыл бұрын
Some serious rose tinted glasses for those who thought Chisora won this by a mile! Basically giving him every close round lol I gave it to him but only just.... 115-114 for me to Chisora and he could have won a couple of those rounds he lost to Helenius if he didn't fuck around! Home decision given but he has himself to partly blame for that
@madi20052 жыл бұрын
Why was it called robbery of the year if it wasnt a robbery and if it wasnt a robbery why did the wbc and wba drop helenius down the rankings
@jamiesherrard72632 жыл бұрын
@@madi2005 timings. At this time Chisora was a British domestic level fighter who had just got his ass handed to him by Tyson Fury (Whom also didn't have a great rep at this time). Helenius was one of the top contenders so for him to get a lucky decision over someone rated far below him was obviously going to cause his rankings to suffer as it would anyone today. Ofc British tabloid journalism would call it robbery of the year, they wear the same rose tinted glasses and thought Chisora beat Uysk!!!
@GabrielManek-m5k3 ай бұрын
Kalah telak Krn napas, SDH habis, TDK bisa angkat tangan utk memukul, sdgkn lawan pukul tanpa lelah, pukul tanpa berhenti hh
@tjracing324311 ай бұрын
What a shameful judgment for the winner.
@elbashaanas2 жыл бұрын
115 - 114 for Chisora, He had many back of the head shots so a draw should be the absolute result here.
@kevindurand32372 жыл бұрын
you must be fuckin blind, he was robbed so blatantly that Chisora got the shot at V.Klitschko instead of helenius as this was basically an eliminator for that
@baboon12332 жыл бұрын
Chisora won. It really wasn’t close. Body shots are scoring punches as well, but of course casuals and biased judges see the flashy head punches from Helenius and give him rounds he didn’t win.
@thetruesquad50592 жыл бұрын
nah Chisora won 8-4 too many close rounds but Delboy's work rate helped him win em
@GabrielManek-m5k3 ай бұрын
Pukul hanya sekali trus, berhenti,, TDK bisa lanjut, sdgkn lawan pukul TDK pernah berhenti hhh
@GabrielManek-m5k3 ай бұрын
Tangan terlalu panjang, jika rapat sulit utk memukul hh jdi hrs cepat mundur utk bisa memukul lawan,
@harrymcgrath71712 ай бұрын
Honestly struggled to give RH more than one rd
@351clevelandmodifiedmotor42 жыл бұрын
Mario as the referee like in mike tysons punch out
@351clevelandmodifiedmotor42 жыл бұрын
no way on earth helenius won this fight lol thats utter crap
@staraptorflock36612 жыл бұрын
I have to agree
@grattanvaz16142 жыл бұрын
Helinius is a far better and stronger fighter today. If they were to fight today Helinius would win.
@-TheSweetScience5 ай бұрын
I don't think so. He is shot to bits.
@gypsyqueen-v5t3 ай бұрын
helenius had bad shoulder injury in this fight. both fighters are past their best at now but i think helenius would win today if the fight
@gypsyqueen-v5t3 ай бұрын
@@-TheSweetScience chisora has taken too much damage
@PosiVibes_Hub2 жыл бұрын
Talk about highway robbery. It can’t get worse than this. Derek Chisora won and it wasn’t even close. I believe it was 9 rounds to 3 Chisora
@stevedavidson5038 Жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one who thought this. I'd have given rounds 2, 5 and 7 to Helenius. It was very close up until about round 8 where Helenius gassed out and the rest was all Chisora. Not a close fight.
@gypsyqueen-v5t3 ай бұрын
@@stevedavidson5038 1,2,3,5,7 and 12 was helenius rounds it should have been draw first three rounds was close but roberts jab won him the rounds and chisora was hurt in the first round
@sarty233 жыл бұрын
A fuckin robbery!
@brianmedeiros32292 жыл бұрын
Ur all wrong Helenius won, he's gonna beat Wilder too mark my words
@thetruesquad50592 жыл бұрын
waffle lmao 8-4 where was the work rate from Chisora, looks like he did not even try his best, what is that
@anngorman24392 жыл бұрын
Brian ,helenius always open for right hand over the top watch all his fights,got caught loads,and wilders fav shot.boom
@MrJohnthegreat222 жыл бұрын
The Viking won fair and square! ⚒️
@DLSNwsTv Жыл бұрын
Chisora won this fight, period!
@Fooknose882 жыл бұрын
I wish chisora masters the peek a boo
@naderih13 жыл бұрын
I thought chisora won this fight 9-3.
@nordicfights29063 жыл бұрын
May I suggest an eye test?
@stevendavies4173 жыл бұрын
@@nordicfights2906 You should consider returning to your meds or a full-frontal lobotomy if you think Helenius won that.
@tommyhunter73133 жыл бұрын
@@nordicfights2906 are you alright bud? You think helenius won this fight for real? 🤣🤣🤣
@dadtheepikgamer42813 жыл бұрын
@@nordicfights2906 Bro how high are you. Chisora obviously won this fight imo.
@mrbo28673 жыл бұрын
No way man! Even a biased British commentary team had it 6-5 Chisora with one round level (which is a cop out, I almost never see judges score 10/10). And no way Chisora won the 12th he got lit up. It's can be confusing watching Chisora because he is so busy, but Helenius took so many shots on the gloves and came back with cleaner work throughout the fight. I think 7-5 Helenius is fair.
@thetruesquad50592 жыл бұрын
nah nah what are these judges on HOW did Helenius win round 2?
@antumurikks48612 жыл бұрын
this robert before protein-diet training
@nathanford93412 жыл бұрын
Robbery chasora won this fight by a couple of rounds
@GabrielManek-m5k3 ай бұрын
Pasti yg tinggi kalah Krn SDH cape, TDK lincah dan sulit memukul hh kasian hj
@dariusz30022 жыл бұрын
115:113 helenius skandal nawet 115:113 dla Dereka to kryminał chisora wygrał 118:110 lub 117:111
@pauldadson3812 Жыл бұрын
Helinius has taken the hair off his head and stuck it on his face now ,
@dariusz30022 жыл бұрын
Chisora wygrał 9 rund w tym 1 helenius i 2 remisowe kibice nie chcą takich werdyktów
@sirrobinofloxley71563 жыл бұрын
Chisora fought as best as he could, but it wasn't good enough, on home turf Helenius knew he had the advantage so didn't need to try as much as he obviously is capable of. While I agree it looked like a Chisora victory Helenius contained him, went the distance and hadn't even opened up. Let's say that Helenius would have opened up, I'm pretty sure the he would have been the clear winner, but somehow, he knew he didn't have to. If Chisora would have been fighting in his home country, I'm sure the story would have been similar. Would Helenius beat Fury... He is capable of going toe to toe with an aggressive non stop boxer, as demonstrated here, he looked a lot sharper in the second fight against Kownaki, which was a shame he kept punching him in the dick, lol. If Helenius does his road work and gets those jabs like lightning he could cause Fury some serious trouble. Whether he has the gut instinct to get that busy is yet to be seen, if I was Fury I wouldn't be over bothered by Helenius, but if Helenius plays smart, that would definitely be to his advantage. Fury knows he can be knocked down, and is humble about it, so it's for Helenius to step up and take what could be a very famous victory, though I think Fury has too much up his sleeve for Helenius to account for.
@thetruesquad50592 жыл бұрын
"if" does not mean anything when Chisora literally did enough to win lmao
@marcoantoniomunozleon27612 жыл бұрын
Menudo tongo! CHISORA LE HA GANADO CASI TODOS LOS ROUNDS,ha lanzado mas golpes, y combatip hasta el final, helenius se arrastraba por el ring....lamentable robo
@alihughes55162 жыл бұрын
I gave it to Chisora by a round or 2.
@davidmccann9811 Жыл бұрын
I gave it to Chisora by 3 points.
@CornholeGoo2 жыл бұрын
Helnius lost that fight...omg...chisora was robbed. He hit that big guy twice as much. Wilder is gonna knock his lame ass out if he fights like this.
@joonaslehtonen79653 жыл бұрын
Chisora voitti. Selkeästi. The Ring magazine kutsui tätä matsia vuoden ryöstöksi ja wbc & wba pudotti Heleniuksen monta sijaa rankingilta alaspäin.
@GabrielManek-m5k3 ай бұрын
Kasian org tua, hrs berhenti sarung tinju di gantung, dan pensiun, hh
@Скайповский2 жыл бұрын
Chisora won this fight
@alaryani1002 жыл бұрын
Do we consider this a boxing fight? It's just a tickle for each other
@dariusz30022 жыл бұрын
Chyba nigdy nie widział większego walka w punktacji ale oszustwo