David Albert & Tim Maudlin: The Philosophical Foundations of Quantum Theory | Robinson's Podcast #67

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Robinson Erhardt

Robinson Erhardt

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David Albert is the Frederick E. Woodbridge Professor of Philosophy at Columbia University, where he directs the Philosophical Foundations of Physics program. Tim Maudlin is Professor of Philosophy at NYU. Both David and Tim are renowned as leading philosophers of physics, though their work extends beyond that to the philosophy of science and metaphysics. David is a prior guest (episodes 23 and 30) of Robinson’s Podcast, as is Tim (episode 46). David, Tim, and Robinson discuss the foundations of quantum theory, beginning with its historical motivation, tracking through some important concepts-superposition and the measurement problem-and then exploring some of its philosophical aspects (such as determinism, realism, the potential for backward causation, and more).
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00:00 In This Episode…
00:17 Introduction
2:51 What Motivated the Development of Quantum Theory?
7:05 Superposition and the Measurement Problem
31:42 John Bell’s Theory of Local Beables
44:30 Formalism and Interpretation in Quantum Theory
51:52 The Einstein-Podoksky-Rosen Argument
58:26 On “Interpretations” of Quantum Theory
1:11:17 The Ghirardi-Rimini-Weber Theory of Spontaneous Collapse
1:16:19 The Many Worlds Theory
1:30:46 Determinism
1:46:29 Quantum Mechanics and Quantum Field Theory
1:48:28 Realism
1:52:15 Monism and Entanglement
1:58:19 Backward Causation
2:04:32 An Experiment to Further Foundations
Robinson Erhardt researches symbolic logic and the foundations of mathematics at Stanford University. Join him in conversations with philosophers, scientists, weightlifters, artists, and everyone in-between.

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@margrietoregan828
@margrietoregan828 9 ай бұрын
I’M WEEPING !!!!!!!! FINALLY, FINALLY, FINALLY !!!!!! I’ve watched hundreds of podcasts on ‘theories of everything’ AND THIS IS MANY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE SUPERIOR !!!!!! Thnx, Robinson !!!!!!!!!
@robinsonerhardt
@robinsonerhardt 9 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you found it! Thank you!!!
@teambabaganoush7035
@teambabaganoush7035 6 ай бұрын
One place where larger, or impactive to you, but to say superior ranks of just that, gratitude is.. powerful
@richardswanson9124
@richardswanson9124 4 ай бұрын
5❤5I was confused when I heard music coming from my printer. Th😂en I realized the paper was jamming.I was confused when I heard music coming from my printer. Then I realized the paper was jamming.I was confused when I heard music coming from my printer. Then I realized the paper was jamming.
@herdeka
@herdeka Жыл бұрын
My favorite people. They are patient, respectful and generous. Thank you, again!!
@robinsonerhardt
@robinsonerhardt Жыл бұрын
@davy-jonesdevil-fruit7606
@davy-jonesdevil-fruit7606 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget genius. Literally.
@techteampxla2950
@techteampxla2950 Жыл бұрын
The two key people who helped me evolve to learn why I’m here , and what all this is. I thank you gentlemen so much for your service to humanity.
@TheDerstine
@TheDerstine 8 ай бұрын
Bravo David and Tim! Brilliant, clear and illuminating, takes foundations of physics to a new level of cool
@robinsonerhardt
@robinsonerhardt 8 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@sirilandgren
@sirilandgren 11 ай бұрын
This channel should have WAY more subscribers. Albert and Maudlin (and Carroll!) are among my favorite minds (and personalities)!
@robinsonerhardt
@robinsonerhardt 11 ай бұрын
We at this channel agree :)
@onixz100
@onixz100 Жыл бұрын
YES. DAVID ALBERT AND MAUDLIN.
@davidlane6758
@davidlane6758 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I found this channel! This is some of the best philosophy content on KZbin, and immediately my favorite podcast.
@timewalker6654
@timewalker6654 Жыл бұрын
I love when you bring david, and you made it even better by bringing another foundation of science philosopher.
@amberd0g6
@amberd0g6 Жыл бұрын
Great interview! Good job getting these two giants to come on the podcast. And good job asking them the right questions concisely and giving them all the space they needed to elaborate.
@robinsonerhardt
@robinsonerhardt Жыл бұрын
stay tuned :)
@alijoueizadeh2896
@alijoueizadeh2896 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Erhardt.
@robinsonerhardt
@robinsonerhardt 10 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@dougg1075
@dougg1075 Жыл бұрын
Love David Albert. Straight out of Hollywood central casting for a professor/ intellectual type.
@robinsonerhardt
@robinsonerhardt Жыл бұрын
He and Tim are absolutely phenomenal
@dougg1075
@dougg1075 11 ай бұрын
@@robinsonerhardt agreed. I saw Tim on one of those panels on stage humiliate a guy so bad ( he was out of his depth) he never appeared on another one. Man I felt bad for that guy. So I stay silent on Tim. Maybe he had a bad day I don’t know, nobody is perfect. The south is a honor society and doing that to a man in public might get ya but kicked in front of your girl:)
@Bra00424
@Bra00424 12 күн бұрын
Thanks Robinson, great questions!
@reluctantrealist6861
@reluctantrealist6861 Жыл бұрын
and so forth and so on
@furtherback6131
@furtherback6131 Жыл бұрын
That'll be his epitaph
@nickknowles8402
@nickknowles8402 7 ай бұрын
Love the way david explains things
@Mesohornet11
@Mesohornet11 Жыл бұрын
such great speakers!
@categoryerror7
@categoryerror7 Жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable and enlightening conversation!
@romanbesel4759
@romanbesel4759 Жыл бұрын
One banger after another, when does it end
@shanebyers1222
@shanebyers1222 Жыл бұрын
What an incredible discussion
@robinsonerhardt
@robinsonerhardt Жыл бұрын
Agreed :)
@erebology
@erebology Жыл бұрын
I loved the part about the pianos.
@david-joeklotz9558
@david-joeklotz9558 11 ай бұрын
Kitties are the theoretical physicists of the animal world. Prof Alberts is brilliant. I love all discussions he participates in
@robinsonerhardt
@robinsonerhardt 11 ай бұрын
You are right on all counts.
@aaronfriedman8201
@aaronfriedman8201 11 ай бұрын
Great discussion.
@robinsonerhardt
@robinsonerhardt 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@paulc96
@paulc96 Жыл бұрын
Hi Robinson, thanks for the excellent videos with David Albert & Tim Maudlin. Very interesting and informative. If you wouldn’t mind, is there any chance that you could please ask Tim, (if you keep in touch), if and when he might appear as a Guest on Sean Carroll’s Mindscape podcast ? I believe that Prof. Maudlin rejects the Many Worlds interpretation of QM, if that may be relevant, as Sean Carroll is a well-known proponent of that interpretation. Many thanks in any event. All the Best, Paul Conti, (West Wales, UK).
@AnHebrewChild
@AnHebrewChild 8 ай бұрын
Your wish is granted. Maudlin appeared recently on Sean Carroll's podcast, fyi.
@eliranmal
@eliranmal Жыл бұрын
an inspired adaptation of pheobe buffay's all-time classic (sing to the melody!): smeary cat, smeary cat, how are they measuring you? smeary cat, smeary cat, it's not your scope.
@odenwalt
@odenwalt Жыл бұрын
When the electron double slit experiment is performed, a charged wire is placed in the middle of the electron stream.
@strooom546
@strooom546 Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@robertdiggins7578
@robertdiggins7578 Жыл бұрын
What is a field, defined by what it is, not only by what it does?
@ClaudeEnckels
@ClaudeEnckels Ай бұрын
Ce point de vue philosophique est très utile.Il permet de voir et comprendre où nous allons. 🦉🐝🐠🐟🐳🐂🐖🐱🐦🐤🐌🪰🐢🐟🐅🐄🐑
@opalescentmica
@opalescentmica 5 ай бұрын
Relief finding these dudes. Paranormal epileptic experiences lead me to MWT, which was also relieving. Naturally that lead me to quantam theory/ mechanics. I was practically in tears trying to understand. It was so illogical to me. When I ask questions, I'm smugly mocked, told I'm uneducated, it's too late to learn, & since I'm not a physicist I have no business in the conversation. "Experts" tell me about vitamins in the juice, but refuse to name the fruit 🍇
@yosshos
@yosshos Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@robinsonerhardt
@robinsonerhardt Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you so much!
@CarlosElio82
@CarlosElio82 Жыл бұрын
In Time and Chance, David writes: "The only dynamical variables of such particles-the only physical attributes of such particles that can change with time-are (on this theory) their positions;" In Newtonian Mechanics momentum is another dynamical variable. You need three primitives then: Space, for position; Energy, for momentum; and particles so you can talk about something. Time is derived from these three primitives. If there is no change in position, there is no time. Energy is frequency and frequency is time.
@DanielAnchondo
@DanielAnchondo 11 ай бұрын
Wow, seems like they have quite a bit of overlap. I would love to explore(not sure if Tim mentioned here) Tim's idea of a preferred foliation of spacetime and how to merge quantum/GR together.
@robinsonerhardt
@robinsonerhardt 11 ай бұрын
Just wait a few days........
@simesaid
@simesaid Жыл бұрын
Both Tim and Albert spend some fair degree of time making light of the way in which quantum mechanics was originally conceived, specifically, 'the measurement problem' and 'wave-particle duality'. Just to be fair, however, even after a century neither issue is a jot closer to finding itself a resolution. Sayin'.
@philipm3173
@philipm3173 Жыл бұрын
59:00 YES TIM
@tomandersenvideo
@tomandersenvideo Жыл бұрын
The quick (10^-11sec) spin down of the classical atom helped create quantum mechanics. The equivalent time for gravity is 10^38 seconds - ie a billion billion times the age of the universe. And yet the lore is that gravity must be quantized. There is no experimental necessity to quantize gravity. Quantum gravity (or better put, a lack of it) may help us find the 'how' of quantum mechanics. Quantum gravity is thus an important part of quantum foundations.
@nellybly7946
@nellybly7946 2 ай бұрын
I am wondering how Albert comes up with higher dimensions as a possible idea for non-locality. Seems like hand waving. I much prefer Maudlin’s approach of constructing cube-like regions of connections in discrete space . A question I have is : what other phenomena in QM other than the convincing account related to spins of entangled particles could reinforce the notion that nature is non-local?
@mrbwatson8081
@mrbwatson8081 Жыл бұрын
25 mins in amazing assessments from both gentlemen very gripping, just to many add breaks for me 😢 I just can't randomly pause and hold a complex chain of thoughts plus I'm in the bath lastime I dry my fingers see ya :)
@robertdiggins7578
@robertdiggins7578 Жыл бұрын
When do you discuss the aether?
@AnHebrewChild
@AnHebrewChild 8 ай бұрын
good question. Although I prefer to call it 'the firmament.' Potatoe, Potato. In any case, right on.
@johnrichardson7629
@johnrichardson7629 Жыл бұрын
Crucial experiment: Ask 1000 sets of identical twins which of them wouldn't exist if the egg hadn't split. Crucial data!
@CarlosElio82
@CarlosElio82 Жыл бұрын
At 15' Tim disregards measurement "you shouldn't have to define or discuss what a measurement is." He would benefit reading Foundations of Measurement by Suppes et al. Measurement is the representation of empirical relations like order or symmetry by mathematical objects like numbers or graphs. The representation of length is additive, temperature is not. The problem of measurement in QM is that the basic relationship, uncertainty, has no direct mathematical representation. I can represent "greater than" using numbers. QM represents uncertainty indirectly, using probability, which is...degrees of belief! (de Finetti).
@david_porthouse
@david_porthouse 4 ай бұрын
I think that a computer simulation of quantum mechanics needs to make use of a random number generator. Am I stating the obvious, or talking about something which is impossible in principle?
@CarlosElio82
@CarlosElio82 Жыл бұрын
Smolin proposes that he most basic feature of nature is the transition from undifferentiated to differentiated existence. Think of a glass of water into which you dip your finger and pull it out gracefully. There will be a drop at the tip of your finger, a differentiated beable called DOROP. Shake your finger on the rim and think about the drop. For Smolin, that is the key move in the universe, the most basic primitive. Think of WHAT EXITS, whatever is imaginable, from the entire universe to a particle, as something that transitioned from a "Nowhere" to "Somewhere." Smolin's organum requires two domains and one move. The domain of NOWHERE (0), where no space, or energy, or beings are allowed. A domain where you have everything and nothing at the same time. To make it personal, it is the place where you who reads these lines were one million years ago and where you will be a million years from now. Existence, like mathematics has its own zero. There are no beables in that domain because there is no interaction anywhere. In the glass of water there is no interaction between the drops, but given the opportunity, when the drops transition from the totality to the individuality, their interactions make sound and BJ Thomas hears the blues they send to him. They talk. But while in the totality of the clouds, they did not exist. We also have the domain of SOMEWHERE (1). When a beable interacts with other beable reality springs out of the interaction. The begining of a beable is represented by 1/0 and its end by the inverse, 0/1.
@sethrenville798
@sethrenville798 Жыл бұрын
While I understand it, from a dycodemic perspective comment as far as using it as a comparative tool is concerned, but it seems to me that the fundamental nature of existence is inherently incompatible with quality list unified field of existence, because of the fact that, without any Particular Quality of being able to be described to Commerce since it doesn't lack the opposite, it is, functionally speaking, identical to nakima and nothing this is coma by its nature, only ever nothing else, and cannot change, because anything that would generate a change within the nothingness would necessarily come from within the nothingness, meaning that the nothingness wouldn't actually be nothing In the 1st place. I think it's just a useful pointer to describe what is essentially a probabilistic wait function of the universe the field which collapses into actualities as the computational mechanic that sweeps through the universe at the speed of entropy Causes spontaneous symmetry breaking and the manifestation of probability into physical reality. The difference between what you described and this probabilistic field of preexistence, in my understanding comment is the fact that it is not inherently everything coma as certain probabilities are weighted as being more likely than others, meaning It contains information, rather than being the functional equivalent of nothingness that pure unity would be.
@joal9235
@joal9235 9 ай бұрын
I didn’t realise all cats do the same thing 😮viz lick themselves clean.
@robinsonerhardt
@robinsonerhardt 9 ай бұрын
Yep!
@jamesfullwood7788
@jamesfullwood7788 4 ай бұрын
Did, Tim Maudlin, world-renowned philosopher, actually say a mathematical axiom could be false?
@AdrienLegendre
@AdrienLegendre Жыл бұрын
The only way to correctly understand quantum physics is to fully understand the mathematical foundations: Lie algebras, U(1), SU(2), SU(3) symmetries, spinors and tensors, gauge symmetry etc. Using analogies (waves, particles) may lead to an incomplete intuitive understanding but may also lead to prolonged unending confusion as seen in this video because these analogies are always inexact. No mathematics invariably leads to no understanding. Most quantum physics textbooks fail to introduce the needed mathematical foundations.
@davidlewis5737
@davidlewis5737 10 ай бұрын
Nobody thinks you can correctly understand the physical/ontological interpretation of quantum mechanics by the maths alone (hence many incompatible interpretations)! And for the record they can understand the maths.
@bernardofitzpatrick5403
@bernardofitzpatrick5403 Жыл бұрын
Just subd. 🎉
@masterroshi1015
@masterroshi1015 Жыл бұрын
Riddled with ads, great content cant stay focused though. After second ad in 9 minutes...ill find these gentlemen elsewhere. Goodluck with your channel
@philipm3173
@philipm3173 Жыл бұрын
1:02:45 Lmao
@JohnnyComelately-eb5zv
@JohnnyComelately-eb5zv 3 ай бұрын
You've just had a conversation about beables without explaining what they are. Tim also didn't define what the difference is between indeterminism and non locality.
@sunroad7228
@sunroad7228 Жыл бұрын
E=mc² - If it is a constant, then all the universe would know about it - Mass, Energy and all the rest... A derived Value must not violate the Concept of its Value. c² is a random speed as it doesn't exist in the universe - based on c that is a constant that cannot be increased. Therefore, c can be any number - and that will do - a demonstration on that E=mc² is a Newtonian physics - and no more than fossil fuels-powered; "In any system of energy, Control is what consumes energy the most. No energy store holds enough energy to extract an amount of energy equal to the total energy it stores. No system of energy can deliver sum useful energy in excess of the total energy put into constructing it. This universal truth applies to all systems. Energy, like time, flows from past to future".
@roelrovira5148
@roelrovira5148 3 ай бұрын
David, Tim and Robinson, one of the most important factors that led to the discovery of the missing links in Quantum Mechanics is PHYLOSOPHY in addition to Theology, Literature, Arts, Science and Mathematics. The Key is Complete understanding of HOW and WHY GRAVITY WORKS- The Missing Link. Gravity has been successfully quantized and unified with Quantum Mechanic's Standard Model of Particle Physics which led to the completeness of Standard Model of Particle Physics and the realization of the Theory of Everything in Physics by the empirical and scientifically proven true theory - THE REAL TRUE NATURE OF QUANTUM GRAVITY. This scientific discovery/invention of mine will debunk and invalidate String Theory, Loop Quantum Gravity, M Theory, General Theory of Relativity and all failed and wrong theories of gravity: THE GOD EQUATION - THE TRINITY Equations, Laws and Codes For QUANTUM GRAVITATION , QUANTUM GRAVITATIONAL ENTANGLE MENT and GRAVITATIONAL QUANTUM COMPUTATION that pave the way for Theory of Everything in Physics: - THE 3-in-1 HOLY GRAILS of Physics: 1. Quantum Anti-Gravity/Spin Up Quantum Gravitational Entanglement/0 Rhu Bit or R Bit: QAG = ∆QGOρ < ∆QGFρ = ↑α 2. Quantum Gravity/Spin Down Quantum Gravitational Entanglement/1 Rhu Bit or R Bit: QG = ∆QGOρ > ∆QGFρ = ↓α 3. Quantum Neutral Gravity/Superposition Quantum Gravitational Entanglement/01 and/or 10 Rhu Bit or R Bit: QNG = ∆QGOρ = ∆QGFρ = ↑↓α We now have a working Quantum Theory of Gravity that is testable and complete with reproducible empirical experiments with the same results if repeated over and over again and again, confirmed by empirical observations in nature with 7-Sigma level results, guided by empirical Laws, Cosmic/Universal Computation and physical/mathematical Trinity God Equations that are predictive, precise and does no collapse even in high energies of Big Bang and singularity of Black Hole or at Planck scale. FYI: Quantum Gravity or Quantum Gravitation have three types that are equivalent to and manifested by Quantum Computational Gravitation- the biggest and most powerful Computer Software Program and Hardware in the Universe and Quantum Gravitational Entanglement - a Quantum Entanglement at Macroscopic Cosmic Scale namely: 1. Quantum Anti-Gravity = Spin Up Quantum Entanglement State; 2. Quantum Neutral Gravity = Superposition Quantum Entanglement State; and 3. Quantum Gravity = Spin Down Quantum Entanglement State. More detailed information could be found on the published papers 2 years ago in London, Paris, and Zurich, online and at the two scientific Journals ACADEMIA and REAL TRUE NATURE. Alternatively, you can google the name of the author ROEL REAL ROVIRA to arrive at the published paper on Quantum Gravity. Most recently, additional two well respected scientific journals namely NATURE and the AMERICAN PHYSICAL SOCIETY APS Physical Review Journals have officially invited this author to submit manuscripts on his Research on Quantum Gravity for publication for PRX QUANTUM in preparation for a celebration for International Year of Quantum IYQ 2025 to showcase the best papers of the year. Quantum Gravitation is governed by and follow the Trinity Laws, Computational Codes, Mathematics and Physics of Quantum Gravitation, Gravitational Quantum Computation and Quantum Gravitational Entanglement. We now have a new Laws of Physics and two newly discovered Fundamental Forces of Nature - The Quantum Neutral Gravity and Quantum Anti-Gravity which completed the heart of the Quantum Theory of Gravity published in London. Paris and Zurich last December 2022 as follows: 1. First Law of Quantum Gravitation: Rovira’s Universal Law of Quantum Gravitation: “The greater mass density of gravitating Quantum Objects than the Quantum Gravitational Field causes a downward acceleration of the Quantum Objects in a Quantum Gravitational Field instantaneously mediated by Graviton.” - Roel Real Rovira Equation for Quantum Gravity, and Spin Down Quantum Gravitational Entanglement: QG = ∆QGOρ > ∆QGFρ = ↓α Where: QG is Quantum Gravity in Rovira (value of downward acceleration force due to quantum gravity) in kg. ∆QGOρ is Differential Change in greater mass density of Quantum Gravitating Objects than the mass density of Quantum Gravitational Field in kg/m2 or g/cm3. ∆QGFρ is Differential Change in mass density of Quantum Gravitational Field in kg/m2 or g/cm3. ↓α is the Resultant Downward Acceleration of Gravitating Quantum Objects in mtr/sec. 2. Second Law of Quantum Gravitation: Rovira’s Universal Law of Quantum Anti-Gravity. “The lesser mass density of gravitating Quantum Objects than the Quantum Gravitational Field causes an upward acceleration of the Quantum Objects in a Quantum Gravitational Field instantaneously mediated by Graviton.” -Roel Real Rovira Equation for Quantum Anti-Gravity/Spin Up Quantum Gravitational Entanglement: QAG = ∆QGOρ < ∆QGFρ = ↑α Where: QAG is Quantum Anti-Gravity in Rovira (value of upward acceleration force due to quantum anti-gravity) in kg. ∆QGOρ is Differential Change in lesser mass density of Quantum Anti-Gravitating Objects than the mass density of Quantum Gravitational Field in kg/m2 or g/cm3. ∆QGFρ is Differential Change in mass density of Quantum Gravitational Field in kg/m2 or g/cm3. ↑α is the Resultant Upward Acceleration of Anti-Gravitating Quantum Objects in mtr/sec. 3. Third Law of Quantum Gravitation: Rovira’s Law of Quantum Neutral Gravitation. “The equal mass density of gravitating Quantum Objects and the Quantum Gravitational Field causes a zero acceleration or floating or hoovering of the gravitating Quantum Objects in a Quantum Gravitational Field, instantaneously mediated by Graviton.” - Roel real Rovira Equation for Quantum Neutral Gravity and Superposition Quantum Gravitational Entanglement: QNG = ∆QGOρ = ∆QGFρ = ↑↓α Where: QNG is Quantum Neutral Gravity in Rovira (value of zero acceleration force due to quantum neutral gravity) in kg. ∆QGOρ is Differential Change in equal mass density of Quantum Neutral Gravitating Objects to the mass density of Quantum Gravitational Field in kg/m2 or g/cm3. ∆QGFρ is Differential Change in mass density of Quantum Gravitational Field in kg/m2 or g/cm3. ↑↓0α is the Resultant zero acceleration or non-acceleration of Neutral Gravitating Quantum Objects in mtr/sec. For more detailed information on these 3-in-1 Trinity Laws and Equations for Quantum Gravitation, Gravitational Quantum Computation, and Quantum Gravitational Entanglement - The Real True Nature of Quantum Gravitation, look it up at the two scientific journals ACADEMIA and REAL TRUE NATURE or google the name of the author ROEL REAL ROVIRA. Copyright 2022 ROEL REAL ROVIRA. All Rights Reserved.
@gxfprtorius4815
@gxfprtorius4815 3 ай бұрын
Einstein might have not worried about indeterminism because he deeply believed quantum mechanics was just a statistical theory. However, non locality cannot be explained by statistics. Additionally, his pride, relativity, is founded on locality.
@rv706
@rv706 Жыл бұрын
Great guests! -- (BTW, unrelated, but Robinson has apparently a pretty bad visual taste! )
@DestroManiak
@DestroManiak 11 ай бұрын
Doesn't Maudlin realize that there will be infinitely many mathematical recipes for getting precisely the same result. How is he going to adjudicate between which one of these countless mathematical recipes "really truly correspond to beables". I guess I am not realist enough.
@seabud6408
@seabud6408 5 ай бұрын
With respect I’m not being provocative. What is physics learning from biology? Why is it a one way street. Why were physicists so sure that room temperature plant located quantum processes couldn’t be real until it was shown that the basic energy storage pathway we all depend on (light being converted to carbohydrate by via chlorophyll) is almost certainly dependant in a quantum process involving the efficient path of a photon/electron in the molecule. Physicist think it’s a joke that Sir Roger Penrose and Stuart Hammeroff are proposing that consciousness and it’s relationship to the mind brain and cosmos/environment could be due to quantum processes in micro tubules present in all cells including the brain. Professor Brian Cox (physicist) went on talk shows scoffing at people such as endocrinologists/biologists speculating (coherently it turns out) about these possibly rich areas for study. Why doesn’t Dr Maudlin know much about the cogent thinking being done by people .. some holding two PhD’s who have enough that’s new and insightful re idealism to gain a PhD from a good University on the topic. It’s obvious that if the Universe is one Unified (yet differentiated) fractal, holographic field, which is holonic in nature … that the Universe must also be organismic in essence because how else could plasma and some cooling, clumping and interacting (within the inherent 4 forces.. information , atoms flipping bits .. geometry etc) Hiw could that process pop out Einstein and you and me … without a single human thought or scientific theory .. if that process is not organismic . Plasma … some waiting around … Einstein Egg 🥚… some waiting around … chicken🐓 Seed … some waiting around … tree 🌲 Why don’t physicists even consider the obvious. The first 9.5 billion years was as much a living process as the last 4 billion since the first cell appears to have manifested in the fossil record. If that isn’t the case science will have to jettison cause and effect, systems theory and the absolute fact that the Uni- verse is in entirety.. a holon .. a holonic system … exactly like your body .. the body it produced from plasma .. with the above noted stages ending in … planets 🌍 seas 🌊 and cells 🦠. Back to chlorophyll again. There will never be a theory of everything because physicists can’t handle the wet warm side, the growing thinking feeling side of the Universal coin. Just pretends it’s not there. Pride perhaps .. like Dr Hawking proud that he didn’t know much about philosophy, mysticism (single case study of the inner subjective universe of consciousness) Spirituality? Religion is a quasipolitical/belief system and has nothing to do with “consciousness studies” … that emerging academic discipline which physicists generally would look down on .. if they could even acknowledge its validity. Arrogance ? No one has the first clue how chemistry becomes conscious biology No-one has the first clue how to make Lego consciousness out of Lego atoms .. the Lego brain .. and its Lego consciousness and its Lego experiences . Have you noticed that physicists lose their waviness when they are scoffing at other disciplines making quantum connections that they should be co working with them to understand? Isn’t it weird that physicists can’t check in with themselves and say … “yip .. I don’t need any scientist to tell me that I’m alive and consciousness, have being … and by inference that means that this one unified quantum field (nested and holonic) must have those very qualities too It ain’t rocket science. As is often said .. you can bet your bottom dollar that the Universe is stranger than we can imagine. It’s almost certainly.. at every system level .. alive and conscious. If you think plasma becomes Einstein and Mickey Mouse in any other context .. that’s probably a bit illogical and dare I say .. naive. It’s staring one in the face. Yes! No! Just looks crazy like every new paradigm looks from the perspective of the old
@tokajileo5928
@tokajileo5928 Жыл бұрын
this is many years old podcast reuploaded. clickbait
@robinsonerhardt
@robinsonerhardt Жыл бұрын
you're mistaking this with my identical twin's identical conversation with david and tim
@Freer07
@Freer07 6 ай бұрын
At around 20 min mark, what the heck is David talking about? Talking very literarily philosophical…
@DenisKrasnov
@DenisKrasnov Жыл бұрын
who sits in a bath tub?
@Choofalong
@Choofalong 11 ай бұрын
Getting VERY sick of finding new and interesting channels and videos, only to get Ads every 4 minutes. Was looking forward to this one, but not going to bother.
@AnHebrewChild
@AnHebrewChild 8 ай бұрын
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@AnHebrewChild
@AnHebrewChild 8 ай бұрын
sorry. Ha. I'm just excited about this interview and it makes me sad to hear someone else walked from it....
@benjaminkennedy6260
@benjaminkennedy6260 Жыл бұрын
I think einstein would back everret before he shrugged his shoulders and said we're stuck with nonlocality...
@benjaminkennedy6260
@benjaminkennedy6260 Жыл бұрын
@@paulthomas963 ?
@benjaminkennedy6260
@benjaminkennedy6260 Жыл бұрын
@@paulthomas963 everret's theory saves determinism and locality, both of those were why einstein thought quantum mechanics to be incomplete...
@Gringohuevon
@Gringohuevon 4 ай бұрын
I'd take Bohr over these two duffers every time
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