ROCKET RACING IS SO

[@JonSandman]

THERE WAS A PIECE OF SOMETHING ON MY LEFT CHEEK AND I AM REALLY UPSET THAT NOT ONE OF YOU DURING THE LIVE STREAM ON TWITCH AND KZbin TOLD ME ABOUT IT. SO NOW WHEN I WATCH THIS VIDEO BACK IT'S ALL I AM STARTING AT. Alright, rant over, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

[@Jason__0336]

🤣🤣 Now we all won't be able to unsee it. Retract that. I don't see it even after you said this 🤨

[@mikemyerz666]

Time to go back and see it because I didn't even notice lol

[@verylongchannelhandle]

don't worry you're fine jon 😂

[@nenon_kai]

I was there I can confirm I saw it and didn't say anything

[@Nitemerican]

Now this is how you get people to re-view your video 😂😂

[@DannyLotus]

I SO appreciate the rant about the White Octane... I went through SO MUCH trading to get the 80 keys for mine back in the old days 😭

[@AverageUser-]

Exactly

[@killerfatty2020]

80 keys back in the old days ??? 😂😂😂 bud mine cost white zombas and heatwaves

[@BackwardsMrahc]

I bought it for 700 or 800 , same with tw fennec

[@Sw1zzle169]

Same I traded up from 200 crates

[@Troublesome_96]

It was always overrated and too heavy to play on

[@whiterockgaming4102]

John is better at Rocket league racing after 8 mins then rocket league after 8 years😂

[@wilcodreuning5206]

Best comment of the evening

[@Jriniscool]

It’s a racing game

[@robertomendoza4669]

no he play unranked, on platine it hard

[@snop6176]

xD xD xD

[@ricobico1872]

They're not the same game.......

[@TheFrostyCreeper]

it feels to me that they didnt utilize the Rocket League side of it at all, its just a standard racer with RL branding slapped on top, swap out the octane and I would have never known it had anything to do with rocket league

[@senor_hams]

A racing game does not make up for epic’s tomfoolery 😭

[@awedwards08]

The question is whether Rocket Racing has advanced mechanisms that aren’t immediately obvious that lead to depth of gameplay. Cuz I had a lot of friends who tried Rocket League and didn’t see what the big deal was at first. But then they found out about aerials, dribbles, flip resets, etc. That’s what made RL fun. Simple concept, deep gameplay, huge skill ceiling. I kinda doubt this game has anything like that, but we’ll see

[@seadee2834]

You saw the video too bro. Drive forward, powerslide, boost and instantly attach yourself to walls. It's like dance dance revolution meets a very basic racing game

[@yurilopes420]

this game doesn't even have physics! if you could MANUALLY MOVE INTO the wall, it'd be one thing, but it's literal deterministic racing gameplay: press X or Y button, attach to wall. press this button, fly.. press the other button, do boost like nothing is skill capped.. shit is just absolutely garbage, holy shit

[@mac_sour]

time will tell. speedrunners find bugs and exploits in many games to save time on their runs, it's somewhat likely that we haven't explored all of what rocket racing has to offer. hell it took a year or two after rocket league's release to figure out how to aerial and ceiling shot, and flip resets didn't get discovered immediately when that "save-your-flip" update came out with the asymmetrical maps, we'll just have to wait and see

[@daanw6270]

racing games can have complex mechanics, however, this is like a mobile game made for 7 year olds. They will keep it simple and basic, and boring for everyone over the age of 12. All this is is another way to sell cosmetic items, I don't see any passion or anything interesting about this game.

[@skygge1006]

@@yurilopes420you can manually drive onto the wall.

[@AReyals]

They should've added this in rocket league would've been a fun game mode to play occasionally

[@clayten6031]

Yeah but it’s epic now man, we (as fans) have been on the back burner since.

[@ExOhz]

@@clayten6031 i wanna be on the main burner 😔

[@MattLong6]

I agree however they wanted to put on the new engine. So it would be great if like they simply found a way to keep trading. And still add rocket racing to fortnite if they really wanted to.

[@sinon4]

RL isnt on ue5

[@MattLong6]

I thought fortnite was ue5?

[@Auridus]

This game doesn't do anything better than the other options available. It honestly looks like a pretty version of a mobile racing game. And if that's what you're into, that's cool, but that's what it seems like.

[@jag3444]

b-b-b-but fortnite

[@lesunshineworshiper11]

Agreed, looks fun but as someone who doesn't already have Fortnite I'm not going out of my way to download it. I'll just play Mario Kart if I wanna race

[@spaceboy3101]

It looks like a generic racing game that has a few RL cars. I just don't understand how some RL players are going bonkers for it. There are plenty of other racers that are as good or better.

[@Zennec_Fox]

Yeah I would honestly have 10x more fun playing a game like asphalt compared to Fortnite racing or whatever its called

[@ThePenguin134]

​@@spaceboy3101broo its honestlly an amazing arcade racer. Im loving every second. Its skill based, fast paced, and competitive. As someone who loves racing game, Im about to spend a shit ton of time in it. Still wish we had trading in rl tho...

[@mikemyerz666]

If they could combine this with the taking out other vehicles like in Burnout that would be cool.

[@Optimustep]

And trading.

[@AverageUser-]

Not really

[@N3KR0SiS_YT]

I immediately thought of burnout paradise

[@panda-_-cool824]

Imagine if fortnite copy Burnout 3 ☠️

[@curseofsasuke]

Oo a Burnout RL crossover would be sick

[@Novvuhh]

Bro didn’t finish the title 💀

[@SlawDadGaming]

Pretty sure it’s on purpose, so you click on the vid and find out if it’s so good or so bad. You might be right tho it is Jon 😂

[@thund3r94]

It’s on purpose

[@hanssousie4736]

Bro didn't finish middle school 💀

[@ForgotMyDemonName]

Oh he did

[@PovElijah]

Wasn't worth it that's why jk

[@ethanhoard7738]

When a dumb Mini game that no one will play in 2 months destroys another game completely 💀

[@rogerhepton1785]

It's fun af tho

[@SaugusDudley]

How is it destroying another game?

[@Wadademq]

​@@SaugusDudleyIt destroyed a big community like trading in rocket league...

[@ethanhoard7738]

@@Wadademq Not just that, it caused the devs to desert the game for YEARS. Not a coincidence that it happened the same time the player base dropped.

[@lilnateking11]

@@SaugusDudley for the last 2 years the best devs have been working on this also they took out trading cuz ur items transfer imagine having a white hat rn F to a generation

[@klanggy1]

It looks like a racing game I could go down to my local arcade in the early 2000s and spend a fiver on a shitty token to play on it

[@modude7]

all it's missing is the timer at the top

[@AegisEdge]

yk how dumb your comment sounds

[@mac_sour]

honestly? rocket racing at dave and busters would be lowkey kinda hype. lowkey lowkey.

[@inmanshane]

@@mac_sourstraight gibberish

[@wars6946]

This isn't our game... we have not been waiting for this

[@hvllxwmakesnoises]

this is what 2-3 YEARS of radio silence was for? this is why they took trading out? a mario kart/asphalt/rocket league abomination? unbelievable

[@yurilopes420]

truly is fucking ridiculous. litrral 5 minutes would be necessary to do a decent rocket league racing game: just add some ui and a couple tracks to the main game, there there's so many mechanics and fun quirky shit you can do with rocket league cars.. imagine winning by an inch because you and your opponent both had 10 boost on the last stretch but your speed flip was so perfect that you overtook him on the finish line... there's so much potential with the existing game yet they decided to not tell us anything to release the literal pinnacle of mobile racing games, for pc.... ridiculous... fucking ridiculous

[@hvllxwmakesnoises]

@@yurilopes420 my thoughts exactly. and what makes it worse is that almost EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR IN RL WAS ADDED TO FUCKING FORTNITE. grayscale for primary? we got it in Sideswipe, we now got it in Rocket Racing. not for the OG tho. easier way to access painted variants? it's in Rocket Racing, not in Sideswipe or the OG. a UE5 overhaul for easier and faster content updates? likely this is what it actually was. a racing gamemode for RL? well, ur looking at it. all of this in fortnite while the OG got nothing new.

[@yurilopes420]

@@blooooop-x2m everyone has been fucking shafted all this shit removing trading all, to just have a shitty stupid casual bullshit racing game mode, IN FORTNITE, with the inventory being shared with rocket league inventory. it is the single most retarded nonsensical removal of a feature I've ever seen..

[@APairOfAirForces]

don’t disrespect asphalt racing like that

[@hvllxwmakesnoises]

@@APairOfAirForces yea u right, that was a bit harsh of me. asphalt deserves better.

[@DonaldMolter]

Man I wish they would have left tradition air roll or directional air roll in the game because the mechanics to jump on walls and ceilings doesn't seem very polished at all

[@kl690]

None of the things in RR feel polished. It feels like you’re on a track (like a train or an amusement park ride). You are confined within a small box and the controls feel stiff and the cars react like garbage when colliding with other cars or solid objects. This was a terrible excuse to remove trading. Another Epic L

[@lilnateking11]

@@kl690 u triggered me why can people make me drift out but i cant make em drift out!!!!!!😠

[@kl690]

@@lilnateking11 say thanks epic 3 times really fast and maybe they’ll hear you :(

[@Blue-rw1eq]

​@@kl690 actually everything else in the mode seems really well polished, im assuming in the future they'll add more features to the game, also you say "another epic L" what was the first L?

[@zlette]

@@Blue-rw1eq I don't know, maybe collaborating with every single corporation under the face of the sun, maybe changing the weapon loadout entirely every single season, how about what they did with Rocket League, like how every season got worse and worse, with unoriginal cars being in the Rocket Pass, or how every single vehicle manufacture has their car in Rocket League, or maybe how they literally took more content out of the game so another game could thrive... that being Fortnite... a game where 40M people crashed the servers simply trying to log in. As you can see, Epic Games is not on my good side.

[@SnazzyZebrah]

If you're a fan of racing games, expecting only racing and not alot of rocket league. You'll love this. If you're a rocket league fan expecting the cars to feel like rocket league, that's not what you're getting, best way I can describe the feel is its like all stars racing transformed. (I already have like 3 hours in this mode)

[@SnazzyZebrah]

Also just realized I'm one of the gifted members for that stream 😂

[@mcnelisfilms]

yeah that's also what I was telling people. Racing games are probably the smallest niche in gaming, smaller than Madden and 2k. I love racing games, but I don't expect Rocket Racing to be super popular because of that. However I do wish it was maybe a tad more "sim". the invisible walls that keep you from flying off the track and the lack of collision physics is a bit disappointing. I think there's a way to have both, arcade racing but also vehicle damage and still be accessible to most gamers. but no vehicle damage makes it feel cheap. just my opinion not right or wrong lol

[@buzielo3749]

Bro wym racing fans will love this 💀 Shit version of Asphalt 9 ☠️☠️

[@SnazzyZebrah]

@@buzielo3749 you're a good example of someone who hasn't played it

[@buzielo3749]

@@SnazzyZebrah play what? theres no gameplay

[@rip_8114]

I like rocket league, I like trackmania. Both games have 1 thing in common. No handholding and no automatic stabilization controls. This kinda breaks my heart.

[@fastmadcow]

Same I love both games because there is a big ceiling to climb too. Both games are so rewarding. This game (Rocket Racing) is just an arcade game. You go to your local arcade and play it once and then never play the game again. They spent 2 years on this?! Im pissed and all these streamers trying to be like “well let’s give a try” no! Be fucking honest with us. This shit toke 2 years of what could have been in our game. It’s like if Trackmania went and Ubisoft told them to make a racing mode for Tom Clancy Wildlands or something. It’s absurdly stupid we have to even think about this. This is shit, we move on and drop it dead like it deserves to be. Fortnite can keep this mode! I’m not a gate keeper but anyone who thinks this is Rocket League is going to get a rude awakening. The only thing the same is the cars physical appearances!

[@codyhickey1592]

I've been playing racing games for years. Love em. I also love RL. This seems like a 'fine' arcade racing game. But theming this game with RL aesthetics is just marketing. They didn't have to do it, and it sucks that it affected RL's development.

[@calebook7720]

Fine is an overstatement, its such a buggy mess its borderline unplayable

[@bymicromize]

Affected rl development? Rl is not in development at all.

[@SteelMediaOfficial]

They removed what makes rocket league unique and just used the cosmetics and other aesthetics from the original game. When Jon mentioned chat talking about playing other racing games instead, I was thinking the same thing. In my opinion they should make the movement an exact copy of RL. You should have to aerial instead of tap 'A' on jumps, air roll onto walls and ceilings, etc. Of course there wouldn't be many jumps on easier tracks since I understand aerials aren't easy for beginners, but that's what would make it fun. If you want to just drift and race there's countless other games like mario kart, hot wheels unleashed, disney speedstorm, the list goes on.

[@darkscoutergamer6168]

I feel like I disagree on taking away the uniqueness lol (love RL and it’s special still) but I do feel what you mean but ultimately I found it fun and treat it as a fun extra mode in case i get tired of BR in my session 💙 but i can agree it definitely might feel stale soon,we’ll see if my opinion changes and how you are well btw 😎

[@MrTakin00]

This one’s free and all under Fortnite. Plus hopefully the cars from rl all get transferred to this

[@Bleacher22]

Aerials only hard when you need to hit a ball, otherwise it's pretty simple.

[@SteelMediaOfficial]

@@Bleacher22 this is true

[@kasualvfx4985]

I disagree hard on this, all the games u listed above are not free and this a free to play game for everyone to enjoy, and not to mention is one of the best racing games

[@kiiturii]

the fact we lost trading for 3 cars and some default decals is insane.

[@syrkon27]

And a wannabe asphalt game😂

[@MOONRiiSENN]

first thing that came t my hear ay xD @@syrkon27

[@matth5158]

I hope you're right, Jon! Bring the rocket league devs back to our game!!

[@egblackfang]

I would be super excited for RR if it was launched in RL. The game looks like doodoo, camera view looks weird, there's literally nothing exciting with the game mode. Calling it a game is pretty much far from it, it's a Fortnite game mode. Even in the lobby you have Fortnite characters standing right next to the cars. Hot Wheels Unleashed with RL cars.

[@Daruwee]

yea i agree its just another fortnite game mode, feels just like a hot wheels game with its simplified mechanics

[@cowhale2488]

Who called it a game? If you dislike it why would you be excited for it if it was in RL?

[@tripptank]

The mechanics are totally different. Everyone who wanted rocket league racing just wanted the same mechanics to be dropped into a racetrack. Thats it. Very simple and they had to over complicate it.

[@erics.2362]

Epic doesn't want that. They want the playerbase, the cash flow and the recognition of Rocket League, but they couldn't care less about the game itself. It's all about getting fortnite bigger. Rocket League could very well just go offline in a few years, as long as the money machine called fortnite is bringing home the cash.

[@user-yv6xw7ns3o]

@@erics.2362 I'm pretty sure that Epic knows that would be a mistake to take RL offline. It's still making them a lot of money. They just know it makes them money for absolutely no effort because it has no competition, so why would they work on it?

[@YeaSeb.]

​@@user-yv6xw7ns3o well, they did kill Unreal Tournament so there's a precedent.

[@erics.2362]

@@user-yv6xw7ns3o I didn't mean it in a way, that the game will purposely be taken offline. It was meant as an exaggeration. I wanted to show, that fortnite will always be Nr. 1 for Epic. If they had to choose, which game should live on for another 10 years and which one would die, RL would surely take the L. Which means, I lost all hope for huge major reveals or updates. There may be a little candy spilled out here and there with something new, but RL isn't supposed to be better or even outlive fortnite.

[@txsketch]

Soo, all these year's hoping for a better rocket league, and we get another iteration of mario kart with rocket league skins on fortnite, great job epic

[@FLUFFYCAT_PNW]

Good to see you still doing your thing, and you'll always be a treasured member of our community. But no matter how much copium we all engage in, this has been the biggest L in Rocket League history, and for the most mid racing mode in a completely different game. They're saying that in a couple of years, rocket league will just be a mode in fortnite, so it's just gonna be dead anyways. But good to see you still doing your thing, man. Keep it up

[@prayforparis187]

One of the biggest things I noticed is they show obstacles in the tutorial, but aside from jumping to smaller segments of elevated road, there isn’t much to actually slow you down on the track. If you get ahead early it’s GGs bc as long as you stay on a good line nobody can physically catch you. Especially with bigger maps, those big stretches really just keep the racers in their positions. Not saying it has to be Mario Kart, but Fortnite is an arcade style game and they could easily put that into RR (and maybe they will).

[@ClappCheeks]

The tracks are broken into difficulties. The harder ones have waay more obstacles and are super skillful but ranked chooses tracks randomly so they dont come up often.

[@Theafter.]

As someone that’s played too much there are plenty of maps with lots of obstacles and stuff like that and even without it I have been way behind several time because I get bumped and get back to second or 3rd. I’m plat 2 currently

[@BenadryIIionaire]

When I played this game on release earlier today the physics felt really off and I couldn't place why, then all of a sudden it hit me. Rocket Racing feels exact like an old asphalt game (for those who don't know the asphalt games are a series of fun but clunky mobile racing games made by gameloft)

[@logjitzu]

so far i 100% think Rocket League Racing is a fun arcade racer. But its not much more then that. It doesn't have the depth or mechanics that made people fall in love with RL. I think its like jon said, its fun and worth checking out but am I going to be playing this in 2 weeks? probably not.

[@gxnzgxnz]

i think with enough feedback, they will change things to make it feel better. i would love to play this mode with the traditional rocket league controls. then maybe add in some rumble style power ups to add in more chaos

[@syrkon27]

The core idea is just bad, rl is so much better

[@LyndanTylor]

Not only did they rob us of trading for this, but they also robbed us of a Rocket League sequel for this.

[@FloridaManHC]

Jon, regarding boosting, you initially tap Y, and then you need to wait for Y to pop up again before regressing it. You do not need to spam Y because that will break the boost chain early.

[@edwaffle6917]

Apparently in an article by Esports Insider, they state that the Rocket League Esports scene was hit the hardest with the layoffs in September. And just from reading what it says it's bad... "Esports Insider couldn’t immediately verify the number of people on the Rocket League Esports team that were affected. However, a former Rocket League Esports Program Manager not affected by the layoffs claimed in a post on X that only three employees were left on the Rocket League Esports team."

[@G0DKILLER_]

thats fucked

[@JSvS870]

Pretty sure Lawler made a video about it too

[@edwaffle6917]

@JSvS870 To be honest, it feels like forever since I've actually watched any Rocket League content. I used to watch Lawler on occasion a while back, but nowadays with everything going on Rocket League just isn't what it used to be, at least for me unfortunately.

[@yurilopes420]

@@edwaffle6917 I'm a new RL fan with 1500 hours. I started after f2p.. game is shit now

[@edwaffle6917]

@@yurilopes420 Damn, how new? 1500 hours is a substantial amount to be "new"

[@ender_in_game]

After playing it for 15 hours I can officially say, the game gets really good. There's so many secret shortcuts as well as drift cancels that get your speed up, and every race is super competetive. If you get a squad with actual decent players it's amazing.

[@Dalio.]

Finally someone who thinks positively about it, I have also figured out the game and it is great, also with the speed and the competition, I just hope that there will be tournaments in which I could also participate I'm almost Diamond rank already 😅😂

[@ender_in_game]

@@Dalio. I'm almost plat, there's certain maps where I win almost every time, and then there's some that I just can't seem to figure out. I've also figured out how to chain drift cancels so Im always gaining boost.

[@ethanos__]

You're right about racing games they're all the same, that's why mariokart stands out so much

[@pinty2109]

I went in wanting to try it and give it a fair shot because I love racing games and I liked it, I think ima grind this for a bit

[@pinty2109]

Would’ve liked there to be rocket league controls tho :/

[@Shaka1660]

Agreed they should add a mini-map but for now you can press R3 to see behind you

[@hunterlindeman1424]

I almost think they should make it more like mario kart, throw the rumble power ups in there and maybe add a few new items and i think it adds 10x more to this game

[@yurilopes420]

"rumble powers" lmao what makes you think they would have such a good idea with something that IS ALREADY IMPLEMENTED and would be 0 effort to reimplement? wishful thinking there buddy, leave those good ideas for the good companies, epic ain't it

[@hunterlindeman1424]

@@yurilopes420 yeah but they actually care about rocket racing cuz its in fortnite dont forget about that lmaoo

[@yzo0001]

I feel like its gonna end the same way as sideswipe. Fun for the first 2 seasons and then just totally forgotten and almost never mentioned in anything ever again.

[@pubdasniper]

The "This looks better than the S13 Rocket League Trailer" Got me dead bro lmaoo. That really caught me off guard but it's so true lol.

[@itzHaze]

as someone who came from fn to rocket league in 2020 i loved this mode. first like 50 races is just like first place (if u understand the drift)

[@fabianirizarry5823]

Jon, Thank you for all the years ❤️

[@ethandoyle4522]

Jon, big tip, if u can do it fast enough and consistent u can make your own full powered speed boost while on those straight stretches. It’s honestly pretty hard to do it without hitting walls though but it really pays off with getting a full speed boost within like 5-6”8 seconds U like drift left then right then left then right and u like keep going forward at the same speed but gain speed boosts

[@Daruwee]

THIS IS ROCKET! …racing?

[@wckainc7372]

the game needs powerups if i'm being real. Has potential but the difference between this and mario kart or any other racing game is the customization features and powerups. The thought that oh i'm in first but i need to watch out for someone that has a powerup that can overtake me gives such a satisfaction that rocket racing honestly needs to push it to the next level..

[@rlwynnharmonic6518]

Sandmans basically become a rage youtuber now

[@speedster8138]

I'm so pissed that it's not a standalone game or one more related to RL than Fortnite. It's of course to attract Fortnite players because it's one click instead of a download away. And they re-use a lot of assets from Fortnite to speed up the development... It's obvious they want to get as much money for the least effort, because it's problematic to re-write RL in UE5 and too hard to develop in UE3

[@jimmyshort1559]

Hey Jon I was a trader for 3 years and I'm sad to see it go but I got everything I wanted before it ended. I tried ranked rocket racing and am now almost diamond. The higher ranks u get, the more crazy the maps and obstacles get so I do have to say that it ranked is actually kind of fun to play. Maybe try that out and see what you think before you make up your mind about it.

[@orangesolarflare4228]

WHY WOULD THEY NOT PUT BOOST PADS ON THE TRACK? SO YOU CAN STRATEGICALLY SPEND BOOST AS YOU SEE FIT??

[@LukeTheSchoolBoy]

because this game was horribly made.

[@timmyr5588]

Jon's positive energy from the start and the end of the video is drastic

[@CptZargon]

I always wanted a racing game mode in RL, but I wanted it IN RL. I want to race in my highly customized pre-sets and maybe use rumble powerups on the track. I still might try this out to see how it compares to other racing games, but I really hope that they can add cross platform inventories, demolitions and items to this mode to really round it out and make it more like real rocket league!

[@theeggthatsurvivedhowtobas778]

Im upset about trading being removed. But the comments are objectively blindes by hate. This mode is extremely fun and polished for its first day. The movement needs some tweaking but this is one of those modes that will likely have new stuff added to it consistently. I enjoy it

[@fastmadcow]

Blinded by hate? Nah man you tripping. This “game” has 4 cars (one of them is $40) and not even all the items available. They spent 2 years on an arcade racing game with little depth. You seem like you’re completely ignoring what this is doing to Rocket League as a whole. So let’s fill you in. They laid off people from at least 3 confirmed departments; Esports, community communications and development team. They toke away trading. Radio silence for 2 years. And no new content except “give us your money for kewl car skin kekw”. They have taken away extra modes and put them on a monthly cycle. People who mained those modes can no longer play their mode’s competitively. They no longer can enjoy Rocket League in the way they want to enjoy it. That’s why we’re mad. Some people have taken it too far for sure. I’ve asked pretty much everyone ive gotten a chance to play with what they think and we all say the same thing “why?”. I remember when Psyonix said “We had a dream of creating a car game with in depth physics and most likely racing that was fun”. So why is this not in Rocket League?! I’m glad you enjoy it man. I really do, but please don’t call it blind hate. We have already been abused enough by Epic Games as it is.

[@theeggthatsurvivedhowtobas778]

@@fastmadcow I'm not oblivious to the info you have given me. I am not comparing the hate towards the issues that plague rocket league, and psyonix, I was only comparing it to the mode itself which objectively does have some good things going for it if they keep keyword Keep evolving it over seasons. For a game mode within a game as huge as fortnite it's not bad. There is plenty understanding to be mad about everything else, but personally I don't want to soil the reputation of what could turn out to be a very enjoyable racing mode. This is me coming from a fan of Fortnite, where as I try to keep the part where I'm a fan of rocket league seperate. To admit it's hard for me since it has the rocket league branding on it, which is why I think Epic should have introduced a racing mode that WASNT rocket league related, but maybe they had a rocket league Collab or something. Because I agree, this has caused Rocket league to suffer. But that's exactly how I view it, it doesn't cause Fortnite to suffer, at least not as far as we know as Yesterday Fortnite yet again hit an all time peak (not counting the day of the event). I keep my hate for when I'm playing rocket league specifically. And maybe I'm wrong. But I'm feeling slightly optimistic knowing that we finally got some communication from rocket league today. I'm not saying it means much but that's all we asked for. Just some communication, and they gave it us. Even if it was vague

[@fastmadcow]

Hard to separate the two when the branding is the same. It is a different game though and just upset that the game I play the most suffered becuase of it. I’m not downloading Fortnite to play this so I can’t say if it plays well or not. Only go off of what I see a what I personally enjoy from racing games. Of course what this has also done to my game. Am I biased? fuck yeah I am. But if people enjoy this part of the game then I shouldn’t take that away from them. I can only just let my opinion be heard.

[@W80Ham]

Made it to the top .1% of the ranked pool and people are already finding crazy shortcuts and exploits to drop their times. It gets crazy up there. And the advanced maps are insane!

[@Casta2]

Nobody would be that negative about it if this wasn't the reason we lost trading. They would still be a bit mad since that delayed any chance for UE5 and good updates, but they wpuld be able to say the racing is not bad. Not that great of a game loop yet but not bad. Trading removal is a good percent of why people are not liking it.

[@fastmadcow]

Dude it wasn’t just trading. Look at how many people they laid off. This mode damn near almost killed our game. Esports, community communicators, development. It may have already killed it. We will see in the upcoming coming months. I know one thing for sure. We’re never seeing the UE5 reboot. Not at least for 2-5 years if the game even makes it that long.

[@Casta2]

@@fastmadcow I am not informed on the layoffs only vaguely know they happened. Do we know exactly on what game employees were removed?

[@yurilopes420]

the racing is trash, my man, wtf you on about I've played asphalt, real racing 3, trackmania, mini machines, a bunch of sim and arcade racing titles. this is garbage having a racing game with rl controls would be just perfect "we wouldn't care if they didn't remove trading" more like this is such an obvious fucking low effort cash grab that it's not even funny.. couldn't be more obvious if they tried

[@kryptichaos4787]

Can we agree that a $40 car bundle is half the price of a regular new game, and this is getting beyond ridiculous

[@antonkucherov4491]

I just cant seem to find a reason for them removing trading in RL , how tf it has to do with this game mode in fortnite.. it didnt even convert the items u had in RL, and even if it did why do they need to remove trading from RL? they could just convert the items to fortnite and kept the trading, i just dont get what it has to do with eachother, other than an excuse for them to remove trading for the real reason that is to make more money from people buying the items they want in RL in the shop instead of trading with other people to get it

[@GagaPOD]

I wish the mechanics were the same as RL. Maybe dashing would be super OP, but that's the beauty of the RL skill ceiling, and it wouldn't ruin lower ranks.

[@sunnymoon8161]

It was fun catching you life. Thanks for giving the game a chance Jon and thanks for being our host!

[@quasarblazar7379]

are you ok buddy

[@darkscoutergamer6168]

@@quasarblazar7379??

[@Adam-bn7vj]

Don't worry about bad things people, there willa be better. Be happy. After bad time there willa be good things.

[@appledoesgaming7303]

The first segment got me dying, you right, tw octane was the trenches

[@UNhaN_hgag]

So they took almost the entire Rl dev team for like 2 years for this...

[@Me........]

They have to learn unreal engine 5 because its different from unreal engine 4 but dang... yeh idk about 2 years tho.

[@watchf]

No they fired most of the team

[@mofkergt]

@@Me........ i thought rocket league was on unreal engine 3?

[@Me........]

@@mofkergt oh it is mb, but it still means that they gotta learn it again

[@SOLIDSNAKE.]

0:21 TRENCH WALKERS!

[@cantuee4394]

John scares me lol, love the video tho.

[@hctr82]

I’ve heard that people will be able to create their own tracks and publish them, that would be interesting

[@tophu7597]

Jon let’s not sugar coat this … this game looks so damn boring , 5 - 10 games and the game is completely dry and dead

[@Nameless_nerd3708]

I mean there isn't much non p2w free racing games out there i hardly find any

[@EmpathHands]

when i figured out high speeds with big drifts were the way i was like yes please . use boosts on long straights where speeds fall and keep gaining speeds from drifts even if you get behind first corner for the big drift you fly by the next

[@hemseyunknown3869]

it has potential it just needs some working on to make it better like having more advance techniques and harder courses to do insane mechanics. Sort of like asphalt 9

[@owenthorpe2435]

It felt criminal to not have at least tried rocket racing, but I think it's a hard thing to view this separate from rocket league. There needs to be a lot more fleshing out of mechanics and failure systems to maintain a 'racing' feel imo. Hopefully there comes a much more refined/intentional design philosophy to the maps etc. because anaconda feels really good and they've tried to make long twisting tracks (like trackmania 'full speed') . *While taking a huge hit of cope* I would like to see this hopefully get mirrored in to rocket league as a workshop thing? That would be pretty cool, or just to see the resources come back in to rocket league for season 14 to rejuvenate the game. I think we all knew deep down this wasn't going to be freestyling on a racetrack or anywhere near as intense mechanically. Which is probably a good thing, but I see the rocket league community just dropping in on updates or never again, and the fortnite community will continue their fortniting. When it's good, it plays well and flows, but the racing isn't being highlighted the way I think it needs to. i.e: winding maps and smoother mechanics. P.S. LET US AT LEAST WAVEDASH IN RACING. It's too engrained in muscle memory.

[@skykai2639]

Why is Jon actually good at this shit💀

[@Mickwixley]

The harder levels are actually kinda dope

[@Levushi]

While the game-mode is fun I feel that we need something like power-ups but I think the price for the diesel car is crazy, like I know you get all the colours but most of the times the players only use one or 2 of them.

[@silksongoutyet]

I think some power up mode is maybe planned because there was supposedly a leak about that, now if that's true or accurate I don't know but I wouldn't be suprised if they added a power up mode with the rumble powers one day

[@PrisonMike117]

I remember a double painted weekend or whatever those were called and traded a bunch of my stuff in and pulled a TW octane. Haven’t stopped using it since, the fact it’s uncommon now is hilarious!

[@freedomburgers4126]

game looks terrible lol like an arcade racing game with rocket league cosmetics

[@Tons342]

exactly

[@YeaSeb.]

Nah, daytona is more nuanced than this. I wouldn't expect kids spending their money to play this on an actual arcade.

[@radiojackz3664]

What happened to the stuff in the trailer? Like stuff randomly spawning or secret paths like through the waterfall?

[@Spiffyo]

Also, this game has notorious hit detection. Sometimes the checkpoints don't see you cross and send you back to the last point, and theres parts on the road that just force you back cause the game felt you hit the force field.

[@s1lentsamurai]

Preach brother preach! Let it all out! Happy holidays to you and yours from OC

[@Sl1kz]

John ma boy out here playing against 6 year ol kids - " is it because i am a rocket league god? " 🤣 love you ❤

[@Lvtdgb_40m]

Bro this is straight from the asphalt 8 grave ☠️

[@solless2504]

One big thing that it has on other games is it’s free. You don’t have to pay anything to try it or play it causally with friends from time to time. Same with the Lego mode. People complain but it’s a free game😂 you can’t have super high standards for a game you paid nothing for.

[@watchf]

This wasn’t free, this costed blood and tears of the rocket league community

[@beastdude]

12:55, I saw a video where the guy said something similar with the fortnite festival, in that fortnite with these game modes can be entryways to the other games like rocket league and rock band, and other games. Which is a really cool thing.

[@TartanWolf666]

YES!! Streaming on KZbin as well would be awesome, twitch just isn’t for everyone, would love to watch a lethal company stream on here 👍

[@Astro_H0riz0n]

It’s painfully average. It feels like if every racing game was put into one boring default game in my opinion.

[@weirdarpeggi_]

Predicting now that they’ll add rocket league racing challenges in fortnite that unlock cosmetics to use in rocket league too. So people will hop on the racing as a chore to get the items

[@Astro-vt3bx]

It's looking like one of those games that you pick up.Enjoy it for awhile it gets updated, but it doesn't come to up to much, and only a few 1000 people like in the end, but let's hope :/

[@matthewzaczeniuk4892]

One thing to mention about the Deisel bundle, at least in the RL shop, is that for $40 you get the car and ever painted variant of it.

[@fastmadcow]

It’s still $40 for a car skin. Ain’t no way I’m paying that. Halo Infinite tried the same stuff too.

[@fireflame5296]

Rocket racing is by far the most interesting racing game Ive ever played. There is tons of potential for this game

[@JCut323]

What they need to incorporate is ranked racing for workshop maps that's encourage training mechanics in regular Rocket League

[@__Conjured]

When bro found out bro was devastated

[@bnorvs5929]

Jon: “YEEEEESSSSSS😭😢”

[@fvlse_]

I hopped it, played the tutorial, played one race, quit the game, uninstalled.

[@eevoking5605]

That air roll mechanic ohhhhh dear spent ages learning airoll on rocketleague for kids to be pressing left and x looool

[@1of8B]

At first it was weird of course because I thought it was gonna have at least the same default controls and physics of rocket league but then it only took a few matches (literally three) for it to feel completely natural. I played ranked for for quite a while to get gold to get that skin which won't take long at all if you get first place every time like me 😝 I got scared suddenly that it might ruin me at rocket league so I got on and played just how I normally would and it felt completely natural and I wasn't playing any different at all. So I played rocket league for a bit just to make sure by hitting all the mechanical freestyles in casuals and I never flipped the wrong way or flew like you do in Rocket Racing. Then after quite a while I switched back to Rocket racing and again a flawless transition where I got on and nothing had changed for me at all mechanically. Anyone worrying about this, don't worry. I feel like the two games are so far apart that you're brain won't mix them up especially with the different binds and maybe if you use a car other than the octane or any other car you might use in Rocket League.

[@Pizzabobjoe]

I love how he is getting so mad about it being uncommon then he sees you can get a t w octane and he’s like yooooo

[@Pizzabobjoe]

???

[@Pizzabobjoe]

What do you mean you got me something?

[@aidendickerson7]

New camera? Colors are popping and u looking beautiful, love u bro ❤

[@YE_boi_TAK]

They really should have just put this in Rl as a new game mode, hopefully they touch on that in the future

[@oFiiREo]

Hahahahaha good one Epic hate RL (:

[@erics.2362]

Epic wants the money, the recognition and the playerbase of Rocket League. The game itself isn't worth anything to them. It's not inside their fortnite game, so they know, it's harder to grow communities for seperate games. That's why they took that look of rl and made something to put inside fortnite. It's all about making fortnite the game of all games, the only game you need. They are looking forward to some Ready Player one dystopian stuff.

[@jnevercast]

It's a Fornite Racing game with Rocket League aethetic vehicles, and reminds me a lot of Mario Kart. I think there is fun to be had in this game, but if you're expecting it to feel like Rocket League... there is a reason it's in Fortnite, not Rocket League. Well, there are a few reasons, like Fortnite being a much larger playerbase for one. But yeah, it's an arcade racing game, it looks pretty, more polish and it's probably fun to smash with some friends in some evenings. Take it for what it is. But it's not Rocket League.

[@yungriot123]

I feel like Rocket Racing is a missed opportunity. There was a game for the ps2, called Rumble Racing, that had pickups like freeze, tornado, boxing glove, etc,. All of which are already used in RL rumble. To gain boost you would land flips. If they took Rumble Racing format and merged rocket league mechanics/control, that game would be dope imo

[@pureshot902]

When RL sideswipe came out I said “this looks like a game I’ll play a couple games of and be like that was kinda cool and never touch it again” and I did just that. Here we go again.

[@Jay3e]

i feel you on that, but since it’s a mobile game i do occasionally hop on just for fun, bonus if i have a friend next to me. i’m just glad sideswipe didn’t steal developers lol well they probably did but it didn’t make that much of an impact i think

[@spectralspectra2282]

"Wanna play Mario kart but dont have a Nintendo system? Play this game" This is what the game is to me

[@JohnTheodore]

This just looks like Mario Kart without shells. It just feels so shallow. With all the other racing games out there, I cannot imagine investing significant time in this. Epic has something that is unique and fun in Rocket League. Easy to play, difficult to master, tons of depth in gameplay. It just feels like they're throwing all of that out for this

[@SevExists]

I haven't seen Jon this excited since Rocket Bot Royale 🤣

[@maxypad3379]

the way they stopped development for the live game to make something that’ll sell more cars/ give an excuse to remove trading reminds me of overwatch 2 and how the devs abandoned the original game for years to remove the free rewards system and replace it with a shop.