The WORST new BIKES I've ridden - RocketMan

[@RoopeshShah]

Easily my biggest mistake and biggest let down will be the Harley Davidson Street 750. I was shattered by the time I got home from the dealership. It became an instant, brand new project bike. There were no brakes! Anyways, over the next 3 years, I tore into the bike and fixed it. Rode it for another two. Sold it to a friend who still loves it. I literally fell out of the whole hype and brand on the way home.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Oh dear! Thanks for your feedback👍😊

[@Jay_Speed]

I don't see the appeal of HD. When I want a tractor I will get a JD.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Haha

[@johnhudghton2287]

My used T120 back was a much better price than any speed twin. Not too worried about the hp issue but I get what you are sayng. More concedning was cheapo suspensin and front springs. A few tweeks later the probems are soved and I swear its a better rde than the stock speedy. Off the shelf though and you are right f course....but throw not alot money at the T120 and you get a brillant bike. A bit like BMW though - just make them right in the first place.

[@autodidact537]

@@RocketMan_Moto Worst motorcycle that I owned & rode was a BSA 441 Victor Special.

[@mattdog1982]

I own the interceptor and I didn't realise it was 7.5k in Europe!!! I agree with you. For this money the bike is getting a little too expensive. If I remember it was originally £5500 in 2019 which was very good value. However (yes there had to be one), the UK is becoming a pointless place for 100+ bhp bikes, the roads are resembling Delhi these days with extra cameras!!!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

One advantage to living in Portugal is that there are only about 5 speed cameras in the entire country. No doubt it's only a question of time, however... :(

[@letni9506]

All RE bikes are getting too expensive. I was looking at the base meteor. I'm not going to pay 4k for one. Nice bike but not the most tech packed or fastest so a bit over priced like the classic imo

[@brakenoodle105]

Oh UK roads! Terrible condition at best and dangerous at worst.

[@ayushawaikar244]

I donno if it's the local taxes cos in India its prices an equivalent of less than 4000 euros for the fully specced INT650. It's tremendous value if priced around the 5k mark but nothing more.

[@ChakraVart1]

Sadly a depreciating euro and pound will do that to you

[@ChetanRao]

"... inevitably, owners of the bikes I refer to, are going to feel a bit aggreived." I'll never understand why most motorcycle owners act as though any criticism directed at a bike they own is some kind of personal judgement of them as morally deficient human beings.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I agree, but such is today's woke society :(

[@fernandomagalhaes2957]

To undersand each motorcycle essence and soul, is needed experience and references. Most people have not enoughth backgound in this area as well as no comparative terms to evaluate. I can´t agree more with all the feelings about the bikes concerned in this video. However i own a Royal Enfield Classic 500 and Moto Guzzi Breva 750 only to diversify my sensorial moods; not for very different types of use.

[@skymningforelsket1302]

Well, you know. That's the bike the guy selected so he thinks it's the greatest thing. Saying it's no good is like telling him his woman is ugly, or his favorite band sucks. Oh, and don't get me started on customization 😁. You see all the people out there putting high-money asking prices on "customized" bikes? They don't seem to understand that the bike is "customized" to THAT dude, not the next dude, and they don't like being told that their customized bike is like their used underwear to the next guy

[@AuxesisHyperbole666]

@@RocketMan_Moto You're confusing 'woke'ness with snowflakey paranoia. Anyway, to criticize someone's choice IS to criticise them as choosing substandard/poorly finished/underappointed/underpowered/overpriced perm any 2 from 5 that reflects them. If they were awake they wouldn't make a dodgy choice is the implication.

[@Fiatmannen1]

It is such a personal thing. Almosy like a girlfriend. Imahgne someone telling you that she is butt ugly...

[@jons78733]

I watched this because I knew the RE Interceptor 650 would make your list. I have one and absolutely love it. It is a relaxing ride and my example has one of the smoothest gear boxes of any of the 50+ motorcycles I have owned in my life. As for disappointments; my biggest one was my Ducati Multistrada 1200s Grantourismo. I was never able to connect with the bike and all of its gadgetry. Then there was the cost of the 16K mile service……

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Sorry about the 650, Jon. Tbh, if it were £1500 cheaper, I would get on with it a lot better. I have hopes for the Hunter, but fear that 20hp just isn't enough on European roads. Interesting comment about the Multistrada, as I have been considering the V2. Others have warned me about the costs, however, so I'm having second thoughts. Thanks :)

[@pratik.jaiswar]

If the interceptor is a bike you don't like, I'd like to see the bikes you like. Pretty sure that's gonna be a Joke.

[@jons78733]

@@pratik.jaiswar - My personal opinion about the Int 650 is that it is a super fine motorcycle that is built with quality workmanship and reliability in mind. I already told my kids that I will be leaving this bike to them and it will be in immaculate condition. I look forward to many years of enjoyment out of her. Just because it doesn't produce 100 HP doesn't mean it can't provide the rider an enjoyable experience.

[@tomaszp614]

@@jons78733 I agree about Interceptor, too little power for 6.5K. But I get mine brand new for 5.5k in February 2020. Buy your bikes in winter! I spent about 1k on free flowing headers and end cans + ecu remap and, now I have 61 HP on a wheel(almost 70 of crank power) . Same or more than speed twin :) Based on that, id rather have my interceptor that looks better than triumph and, have the same or more power for 6.5k. Triumph is about 9 if I'm not mistaken?

[@kodekun7267]

My buddy has a RE interceptor 650 and pretty much loves it. The first month he bought the bike, he asked to try it out of his excitement of owning the new bike. I have to be honest the bike is prettier than my v Strom 650 and it's a bit lighter too. Other than that, it was a dull bike, not so comfortable and the worst part was, the bike was so underpowered. For the price, might as well buy the triumph speed 400 which is more nimble, comfortable and beautiful (subjective). But doesn't really matter as long as he is happy with RE. I used to own a 2017 CB500X for a bit more then 2 years and I can easily say CB500X was a better bike in every aspect.

[@noviomagus5852]

One reason to choose a T120 over a Speed Twin is the slightly bigger size of the bike. I've only sat on the latter, but at 6'3" it felt too cramped for me. The T120 I did actually ride briefly and for me it felt like a better fit.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I'm 6'2" and I agree these retro bikes are a bit too cramped. Thanks for your feedback :)

[@ruezi12]

This was for me too!

[@richardcasey7521]

I purchased the T120 Bonneville and found the 80 HP more then I needed and the ergonomics better suited to my physical size and budget. Would I like 15 more HP in my standard T120? Possibly, but I would never use it. I like the fact that the 80HP rating might be considered less stress on the engine and producing less heat. The Speed Twin just wouldn’t have been a better fit for my needs. I’m delighted that Triumph provides buyers with such a wide range of choices on which to enjoy the 1200 cc engine.

[@malcolmemsley5909]

I also got the T120 as it fitted me better at 6ft. I also have a Harley Sportster Iron 1200 which is a fun ride but with Stage one too loud ( I have to make sure I have my ear plugs in right). The T120 is the better bike for me and it is a great all rounder., poweful enough for my needs and I love it. Point on cruisers though, with feet forward I think they dont suit smaller people as they will be too stretched out and those that complain should ask themselves if this is the real problem and not really the feet position.

[@johnhudghton2287]

Funny that, cos Im a short fat person only 5'10" and my T120 is not big at all. Somehow they have got the geometry right for both taller and shorter people.

[@lundog8548]

Biggest let down for me was the Tiger Sport 660, I suppose similar story to you BMW, I was expecting excitement, ownership pride etc but it just didn’t do anything for me. Having owned a few new Triumphs over the last few years this one just didn’t seam to have the quality, excitement and premium feel I normal get with a Triumph. Live and learn I guess. I ride a KTM 390 Adventure now and even though this bike cost me nearly exactly half of what the triumph (with accessories) it certainly isn’t half the bike. I love it. Cheers.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I know exactly what you mean about the Tiger 660 - I enjoyed riding it, but didn't 'desire' it. The KTM 390 is a great 'little' bike :)

[@ripmax333]

Regarding your poll for which motorcycle to get between the transalp and the Ducati, which one do you think that once you park it somewhere and after you take a few steps away you will turn around to look at it and smile? The brain might be right to get the one that is more practical but the heart knows which one will make you feel elated when you ride it. One thing that I learned after I owned some motorcycles my self is that sometimes spec sheet and reviews dont mean absolutely nothing.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I agree absolutely :)

[@vilmos_csehi]

Few years ago I have tetrode 4 bikes right after each other, the T120, the Kawa Z900Rs, a Honda CB1100Rs and a Yam XSR900, because I was very much after a retro stunner. Before the rides I was sitting on the T120 hype train and I was pretty sure that is the best of the bunch, but it was my deepest disappointment: awful heavy front end, had to fight with it in every corner and the so called "character" was missing for me too.. On the other end, I did live the Honda so much that I decided to buy one. The Kawasaki was close 2nd, the Yam was great but at the end of the day it was just an MT09 in different dressing..

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Pretty much my experience! Thanks for your feedback😊

[@nicholaskeenan211]

I completely agree with you on the NT1100...I was overwhelmed when I got off it...I was hoping for more from a DCT gearbox, having heard such positives...but it was terrible! Great video!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Nicholas. Good to know I'm not the only one :)

[@georgeblumenthal7938]

My choice of the Bonneville over the Speed Twin was first based on Rider Triangle, I preferred the more upright position, and second that at age 72 my riding style is more gentile.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I understand that. I'm only 58, so I can still just about deal with more acute angles :)

[@davidelmore1668]

I'm turning 71 and agree with you. I'm very satisfied with my Bonneville T100!

[@pbofan]

I certainly agree with your first pick, the BMW F900XR…I was given one while my R1250R was in for regular maintenance, and I couldn’t believe how underwhelming, underpowered, cheap, and awkward it felt. Truly disappointing and odd from a brand whose other bikes that I’ve read always oozed premium finesse.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Glad to know I’m not the only one. Thanks for your feedback👍😊

[@pw9150]

Well, can’t compare it to the 1250R - wich is way better in every single point: the look, quality, motor & driving. 100 % confidence & love for MY favourite BMW - T H E Roadster to have ❤

[@pbofan]

@@pw9150 Admittedly, some of my disappointment with the F900XR could’ve been sourced from the comparison I was making to the R1250R, which probably wasn’t fair. However, I’ve also tried the R9T, the S1000R, and a GS, and all of them impressed me to varying degrees, unlike the 900, which distinctly felt on a lower tier than all the others.

[@pw9150]

@@pbofan ok, yes 👍🏻 got it n o w, cause drove several 1200Rs, a S1000R & now a 2012 GS … so lots of good bikes. Then & that’s the point: I drove the 900 XR while got changed tyres & wasn’t impressed at all. The cheap plastic look, the “Leck” of power, or better said: torque ☝🏻 vs. the others. But: it’s not the comparison to the bigger once, then to a Duke 890R, a trident or a T7 … there was no emotion, nothing, that took me straight away 🤷🏻‍♂️ Love the nakeds (& now the GS & some real Offeoader), the twins & torque … so: the BMW 900s had lost …

[@Jay_Speed]

The F900R is to heavy and top heavy as well, dissapointment to drive.

[@sudhansuranjanmohapatra6429]

Thoroughly enjoyed your narratives bursting the myths surrounding these popular bikes . Would like to know your favorite one's as well 👍

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I did a 'Best Bikes Ever' video a few weeks ago. Link in the description :)

[@sudhansuranjanmohapatra6429]

@@RocketMan_Moto Just saw this video. 👍

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Hope you enjoyed It😊

[@sudhansuranjanmohapatra6429]

@@RocketMan_Moto Sure👏👏

[@RevQuads]

7500 euro for an Interceptor?! You're getting ripped off. They're only 5999 US dollars.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

That's a much more realistic price

[@dirkdiggler5164]

I can't say I've ridden any motorcycles that I truly hated, although I'm sure there must be some out there that I would hate if I rode them. But here's 1 I didn't like -- a 1974 Honda CB750. Ironic, I know. Because that CB750 is supposed to be all that and a bag of chips. But. Where do I start? Worst handling bike I've ridden. The center of gravity is sloshing somewhere around in the gas tank. I literally had to sit up on top of the bike, turn the handlebars, and "steer" the thing around corners like I was driving a bus. Second, the shifting is notchy, as in, it needs to almost be jammed into gear with a powerful almost uncomfortable toe thrust, and you are rewarded with a heavy industrial sounding "pa-CLINK!". Third, and my apologies to the throngs who think that the CB750 was some kind of 1970s superbike, but it's slow. I think because it weighs so much. It more like "gathers up speed" than truly accelerates. Go ahead, give it full throttle in low gear. You'll never feel physics trying to pull you off the back of the bike. Yes, the CB750 was reliable and always started. Have fun though, when it comes time to clean and sync those 4 carbs

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Interesting list. Thanks for your feedback :)

[@Alex-io6ky]

have loved the interceptor after changing suspension for yss front and back, it’s good all rounder got $10000 odd aus dollars..free flow everything helps its zip

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I do accept that it's a good bike for those who like to tinker. Enjoy :)

[@markellott5620]

I've still got my XR. I'll be selling it to finance the new Guzzi when that comes. I've not been disappointed though. It did what it said on the box and has been ideal as a training mount and, yes, I went for all the options. No one buys a base model to my knowledge. Do I regret it? No. Would I buy another? No. I actually preferred its predecessor, the F800GT.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

The V100 should be a big step up👍😊

[@markellott5620]

@@RocketMan_Moto On that subject, my dealer is attending the launch in two weeks time.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I think everyone is dying to have a go on it!

[@markellott5620]

@@RocketMan_Moto I've ordered one in Grigio Avanguardia, which is a charcoal grey. It suits my personality.

[@shlomidan115]

F800gt or f800r were quite good except for the shaking front mirrors on highway

[@geneclarke2205]

Harley Davidson Sport Gide. Great fit and finish, nice 107 engine, farm tractor transmission, rode like a hard tail, and the dealer servicing was expensive and not very good. My first and last Harley.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Oh dear. Thanks for your feedback :)

[@lezlee4706]

I totally agree with you on the T120. I rode a T120 Black, when they first came out. I was expecting great things. It only took me an hour test ride to realise I would never be happy with it. The T120 and the new Speed Twin are chalk and cheese. I'd definitely have a Speed Twin if funds ever allow. Such character. Again I have to agree about TMF's woeful Royal Enfield journey. Close to £15,000 for 48bhp. No thanks.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I know - he could literally have bought a new Triumph Scrambler 1200 for the same money :)

[@jptwaite7899]

Spot on re the F900XR and the wonderful speed twin (with which I have replaced it) - you might have added that thieves can simply pull off the F900 XR’s TFT screen with very little force, leaving me within weeks of purchase with an astronomical 1.6k repair bill. A google search revealed that BMW have known about the TFT theft problem on their bikes for 2 years and done nothing about it. Worse still, customers are provided with no warning at the point of purchase and therefore have no opportunity to buy one of the very cheap after market fixes which protect the screen. When I complained the only response from the central London dealer was that they are “not responsible for thefts in the London area” and that they are not permitted to recommend non BMW parts to customers!. Grrrr...

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I agree that’s completely unacceptable. Portugal is generally a very safe country (touch wood!), but I know that in the UK theft is a big issue🙁

[@simongilbert2704]

why do nearly all makers offer several dirty looking shades of black ???? get a life ;;

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Exactly. I couldn't believe it a couple of weeks ago when Honda announced a 'new shade of black' for their 2023 NT1100!!??

[@adrianleach1670]

Some interesting (and honest) choices. As a long time Harley Road-King owner who also rode a Tracer 900GT, I tested a Harley Pan America to replace them both. After the test ride I realised I preferred the Yam to the Pan Am. The HD just didn't feel like a quality product; sales in the UK reflect that opinion. Ended up with a 1250GS Triple Black which I absolutely love. I've done so many miles in the last 16months (with zero problems) that I need a second bike to keep the PCP miles down (my excuse), so I've ordered an ADV350 after noting your comments. If Honda gets the Transalp right, they should sell really well.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I agree, Adrian. I’m hoping Honda reveal the Transalp at EICMA in a month. If looks good (i.e. better than the Hornet), I may well pull the trigger🤞

[@pggp273]

I'm sitting here laughing to myself as our choice of worst bikes are exactly the same, I have a particular dislike for both the BMW and The Honda. Although to add one in the mix my personal all time worst bike in the history of motorcycling has got to be the BMW R18. It is a hideous contraption that is ridden by people with more money than any serious enthusiasm for motorcycling.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Lol. I'm not a fan of the R18, either, although I've never actually sat on one. Don't really want to, either, tbh...

[@HoraceFogsworth]

My biggest let down was the Yamaha MT07. I bought one a few years ago intending to move up from the CBR250R I owned based on magazine reviews and a very brief demo ride. After a couple of weeks of ownership my wife commented that perhaps it was time to sell the old bike. I looked at both and advertised the MT. Maybe it was the lack of wind protection or the riding position but it didn't have me wanting to get on it and ride all day like the Honda.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

It's odd, isn't it, how sometimes a 'lesser' bike can be more endearing than a more expensive, more powerful one. Thanks for your feedback :)

[@raymondlaney8508]

I totally agree with you. I have one as well and I’m really not enjoying it. Even done some mods and still don’t like the ride and position. Never feel comfortable or enjoy it. Maybe because I’m 42? Lol I’m looking to move on next season.

[@HoraceFogsworth]

@@raymondlaney8508 It's ironic that a year and a half ago I bought a Tenere 700 which despite having the same motor as the MT07 is so much more satisfying and fun to ride.

[@IrelandRider]

I really like your honesty, it's a breath of fresh air, to many KZbinrs seem to like every single bike, but in the real world, we all don't suit every bike, it was a great short and truthful video 👍

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thank you for that, Richard. KZbin reviews can be useful, but as you say, most channels say every bike is amazing, which just isn't the case...

[@IrelandRider]

@@RocketMan_Moto you're very welcome, I'm glad that someone on here doesn't find every bike a dream to ride, even though the technology has improved everything, from grips to grunt. I'll look forward to your next adventure 👍

[@RocketMan_Moto]

😊

[@peterconnell3162]

I share your view of the Triumph T120. I was unexpectedly underwhelmed by the test ride. I also regretted buying the Honda VFR800FI without a test ride. Promised a lot, but was distinctly average!.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your feedback, Peter :)

[@tofubutcher7456]

Have you considered the Aprilia Tuareg for a tourer? I'd imagine similar to the TransAlp

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Yes, I have actually. The only problem is that my local dealer hasn't got a demonstrator

[@zhvn89]

I remember I rent BMW F900XR in Algrave for a few days after renting Triumph Trident. I didn't enjoy riding BMW at all. Triumph Trident worked so much better for me. And I was riding with a passenger. My passenger enjoyed riding Trident as well. F900XR just a boring and heavy bike.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I prefer the Trident to the F900XR, too

[@mogoduc]

Wonderful video! You are truly a bike philosopher :-) You speak our my thoughts when i am in the the process of deciding for a new bike: look, engine charakter (one, two three, four cylinder), chassis, agility ... Currently i'm riding a black Speed Twin - and really happy with it!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks. The Speed Twin is definitely one of the best bikes I’ve owned👍😊

[@contrastprinciple4389]

The fj-09 is probably the only bike that I have ever owned that I kept for the briefest amount of time. Little bit top heavy and not quite as good as my first generation FZ1. The seating was also somewhat uncomfortable, especially after an hour. The fj-09 is now known as the tracer with a longer swing arm. Admittedly, if you can afford it

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Interesting. I was considering the Tracer 9 for my next bike, but eliminated it a few days ago. Thanks for your feedback👍😊

[@richard.c3901]

I don't own a Triumph but I can tell you the T120 is a far more relaxed riding position and a more comfortable seat. The Speed Twin's footpegs are further back and tucked up a little like a Thruxton. Many people enjoy a relaxed cruise and don't feel the need to contort their lower limbs as a reminder of their sports bike days.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I agree the Speed Twin is half way between the T120 and the Thruxton. Spot on for me personally :)

[@georgeouthwaite5397]

No. I’ve ridden them all and own two. With a t120 you sit upright and quite far back , over distance , not comfortable, On a Thruxton, you are poised, ready, and go. Every journey is a special occasion. On a speed twin you are using your whole body comfortably to enjoy the whole experience.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Interesting summary

[@Ibrahim-ls2qk]

The best bike you've ever ridden is the one you love the most, even if it's imperfect.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Absolutely😊

[@ListenSilent121]

Good Good 👍

[@Tubespoet]

Finally an Interceptor myth buster! Objectively it isn't up to much, a bit whirry, lively in the wrong way on fast bumpy bends, limited comfort, not really pillion friendly, only looks good in black and you are right to call it out. I love mine though so it goes to show that sometimes we just aren't logical and our hearts are drawn to imperfection. Another story, my brother used to own a Bonneville T100 and I owned a Moto Guzzi V7 Stone, we both loved our bikes but when on one occasion we swapped and rode each others we both came back with the same comment - gutless! Different riding styles different engines 😃

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I guess we're all different, but if a bike has no soul, I'd rather take the car

[@mhoeij]

I recently took a test ride on a RE 650 and I really enjoyed it. It was a ride in the city, we didn't reach highway speeds, but in any case, I thought the sound and feel was great. It doesn't pull as hard as my slightly more expensive SV650 but still I had a great time on it.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

The main thing is that your enjoy the ride :)

[@mattdog1982]

I own the interceptor and I didn't realise it was 7.5k in Europe!!! I agree with you. For this money the bike is getting a little too expensive. If I remember it was originally £5500 in 2019 which was very good value. However (yes there had to be one), the UK is becoming a pointless place for 100+ bhp bikes, the roads are resembling Delhi these days with extra cameras!!!

[@DC-dl6sm]

Good reviews, I liked the engine on my interceptor but hated the suspension! SOLD!

[@kriscotner7105]

Comparing yourself to a Gibbon made me laugh out loud

[@RocketMan_Moto]

😊

[@TrustyZ900]

It must only be me, but the HD Sportster S has to be the homeliest thing on two wheels. I'll keep my Z900RS and admire it's excellent performance and good looks.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

The Z900RS is an awesome machine. Enjoy :)

[@cisium1184]

Sorry but all these bikes are pretty good.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

As I said, no such thing as a really bad bike any more

[@fredhastingsquebectrip6180]

I owned for 1 summer a bmw 2017 f800r. Very buzzy ride after 4,000 rpm - so much so the mirrors were useless. Moved to their boxer engine, sooo much better.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Yes, the big boxers are the way to go with BMWs

[@davidbesant]

The key word here is "disappointment". Bikes that are better than you expected (even crappy old scooters), you love. Bikes you invested your second mortgage on, but weren't that good........ Generally though, many people buy the bike their mates like, and it sometimes it turns out their mates (and MCN) were wrong.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Agreed! Thanks for your feedback :)

[@jeremyharris5102]

Hi rocketman, triumph speed twin or t120, a valid point of view, however, they are completly different machines which only have the engine in common and even thats not quite the same. I'm lucky enough to have both and i take the one that suits my mood on the day. Pillion comfort also a strong point for the t120. The bike that I tired of the most quickly was a bmw f800r, having said that, ten years on I may have had a different opinion on it. I very much enjoy your video's🙂

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for that, Jeremy. Interesting that you should have both the T120 and the Speed Twin. I have duly noted your comments :)

[@shlomidan115]

F800r was VFM bike with sophistication current bikes doesn't have

[@Tom-zy6ke]

New to the channel, nicely presented. For what it's worth I was also after a mile munching adventure style bike to tour on, and opted for the Kawasaki Versys 1000. As with all bikes there are a lot of pros and few cons but it's comfortable (including decent wind protection), nimble and the 1000 in-line 4 I just love. One thing nobody ever mentions is reliability, check any report and it's ALWAYS Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki and Suzuki in the top 4 slots and KTM, BMW and Ducati way down the field, so you're paying a premium price for it to go wrong more often which will cost you more to repair. Still, as long as you get a nice coffee and maybe even a biscuit while you're waiting in their luxurious lounge I guess it's worth it.....?? :0)

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for that, Tom. Most journalists seem to agree that the Versys 1000 is the one to go for, but I would really like a smidge of off-road ability, too. Something like the Tiger 900, or possibly the upcoming Transalp?😊

[@Tom-zy6ke]

@@RocketMan_Moto Mate of mine has the new Triumph Tiger 1200, got to be worth a test ride at least...??

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I have just posted a quick review. Nice bike, but sounds like a cement mixer🙁

[@Tom-zy6ke]

@@RocketMan_Moto I always thought that T plane crank was a bad idea.....

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Agreed - very odd decision

[@averagebiker]

Triumph Scrambler 1200 was my biggest letdown - all the reviews said it was a great all rounder but I found it a pretty poor all rounder. Should have guessed really...

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I've never ridden one, but it does seem to be a bit of a compromise. Not really good at anything..?

[@chirag4]

2 days back, I bought my 3rd bike in 2 years, the new Third Gen HAYABUSA (white) already have the Trident 660 & 390 Duke

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Nice collection! :)

[@VinayKumar-db4qz]

Some people are just too hard to please, I would be happy even on my 200 cc bike as long as I am riding.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Ride safe😊

[@powerbreed]

T120 has cruise control. For those of us doing long straight stretches, sore hands or trying to avoid getting nabbed by those pesky speed cameras. I keep on asking triumph for cruise control on more of their bikes and I encourage you to do the same.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I agree cruise control on my Speed Twin would be nice

[@Jason-cl8hk]

You forgot the Triumph Explorer 1200 (first two versions) which I found top heavy and lacklustre. Will you visit EICMA this year?

[@RocketMan_Moto]

They were very heavy. Haven’t decided for EICMA yet

[@Animaduniversum]

Good video. I really like your calm style. The Honda Vision is great though. It was one of the first bikes I rode and I still love it for it efficiency, durability, price, practicality and ease of use. What's not to like?

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Agreed - the ADV 350 I ride now is superior in just about every way... on paper, but we still miss our little Vision and its ability to return almost 200mpg

[@cliveomahoney4096]

Get a screen for the Triumph and save millions of baht. Proud of you for riding that Harley. Apparently, it goes like a rocket. Really fast. I wouldn't appreciate that, at all, in armchair mode.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

It’s about the same as my Speed Twin. Only gibbons need apply, though🤦‍♂️

[@alexwotherspoon5630]

Worst I've ever ridden was the Honda Bentley 200cc 😆 thing was a deathtrap 👀

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your feedback :)

[@macdaddyblues1]

I like the T120 because it looks way more retro to me, the wheels and upswept pipes on the speed twin are deal breakers for me. Although you do get a power jump, there is no suspension upgrades (like you get on the thruxton)... so it doesn't really translate to all that much performance except for straight line speed.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I agree it does look the part. Just a shame it's priced identically to the Speed Twin.

[@cliveomahoney4096]

How can a 9hp scooter be terrible? It's just a scooter.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

That was kind of my point, Clive

[@xsdfl4244]

The Interceptor 650 in my country is priced almost exactly as cb500x tho. So it's more appealing here i think.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I think I'd rather have the Honda, tbh

[@xsdfl4244]

@@RocketMan_Moto i do agree with that :)

[@teneretraveller8980]

The great thing about bikes is that there is something for everyone. Diversity, or what? Happy, safe travels 👍.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Agreed👍😊

[@westho7314]

BMW= Buy More Wankers, Though I did have a late 1940's/ early 1950's BMW r50 which I rode from the west to east coast of the US more times than I can remember 15 years of riding that tractor without a glitch or hitch, For me all newer bikes are beyond ugly in appearance, overthought, overpriced, over engineered. In my mid 70s now I've had at the very least 100 motos in my life , Scooters to Baggers enjoy them all. For style or curb appeal bikes built from the 1930's to the early 1960's catch my eye, Enjoyed my 1937 knucklehead, 1953 Panhead, and a couple Indians I owned when I was a teenager. Mid 60's Moto Guzzi Ambassador, & the R50 BMW, were the peak of reliability back in the day, AJS, Matchless, BSA, Norton and smaller Triumph cub & BSA 200cc and Ducati desmo 250 thumpers were also a lot of fun. Honda step thru 50cc, & 90cc, Vespa, Lambretta and Cushman scooters always made me smile.. Evolving into modern times I had a slew of 1999 year model bikes. The '99 Sv650s, '99 Kawasaki Drifter 800cc (Indian tribute bike) was unique & beautiful, but the 1500cc kata Drifter was an oversized clumsy oaf , POS of a bike., Kawasaki W650/ triumph bonnie copy, '2000 CBR 600rr & the 1999 unrestricted Hayabusa were a nice sport touring bikes if you enjoy speed. As far as worst bikes I remember, 60'sBenelli 2 stroke, Rabbit scooter, '68 Honda 250 & 305, '57 BSA a-10, and most anything made by Yamaha has always gave me problems.. although I always wanted a Yamaha Morphous scooter because they were so space age fugly. These days getting older its back to small 4 stroke scooters & electric bicycles that I enjoy most.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your feedback. Ride safe :)

[@alexandreoliveira8908]

i've owned several bikes: honda transalp 700 2014, bmw gs 650 2015, cbr 650 2013, ninja 250 2012. Currently I own a bmw f800r and a Himalayan 410cc. For me the worst bike that i had were a harley davidson iron 883, i even put an aftermarket exhaust into it. The main issues were high fuel consumption, small tank, bad handling, very heavy 250kg. The best one I guess were Transalp, CBR 650 and the Himalayan( i had no issues so far 1 year ownership).

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your feedback :)

[@abellseaman4114]

Regarding the Triumph T120 - in my case here in Canada - and the situation may be similar in other places as well - the 80 horsepower of the T120 GIVES A NICE BREAK ON INSURANCE COST compared to the Triumph Speed Twin.......................... so maybe that is the case for many other riders??? Fact is that 80 horsepower is plenty for riders who want a good bike but dont want to get tempted into actually USING 100 horsepower and getting unwanted attention from cops???

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Fair point👍

[@anthonyakentiev4997]

My prev. comment is lost somehow. Here is a copy: Regarding NT1100 -> You should watch Честный обзор Honda NT1100 with ENG SUBs. This is a Russian guy who lives in Spain. Just to understand why Honda did it and that there are no other LIGHT and NARROW + CHEAP bike in that category. 150mm travel, good DCT, etc. Please just watch the video, it may change your opinion...Thx

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I’ll give it a try. Your previous comments may have been deleted by KZbin. They don’t like links in the comments, even to their own videos.

[@drewmorg.]

I never miss a RocketMan vid. New Hornet looks a bit bland but I think is an incredible value for money and the right amount of power for the street. I think it's going to be a sleeper.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Yes, I thought that too - looks 'ordinary', but should go like the clappers :)

[@robbyclark6915]

Being a self aware Harley simp, I was vastly, hugely, ridiculously, disappointed in both new “sport” entries from HD, the Sportster S and the nightclub bike. The S looks like a cartoon character and apparently you have to be one to fit on the bike, and the nightmare bike doesn’t deliver the same sauce as the 1250 variant. Everyone involved in the design and launch of the sport range at Harley should be fired. They have this new, fast, jewel of an engine and they introduce it into the new “sport” category with the sportster s? WTF Harley! Then they introduce a more traditional and practical “sportster” and put the baby engine in it? How? Why? What? Who’s making these idiotic, mind numbing, decisions? So it’s 3 years of “new” sportsters now and not only are they disappointing, they are vastly overpriced. There’s my rant. Just can’t believe how badly HD has bungled the new sport category of bikes. It’s like they don’t even care about them.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Lol, thanks for your feedback😊👍

[@leemills7309]

Hi Rocket, Only a quick one to say, please don’t rule out the V2S, I’ve had mine since April, and can honestly say what an incredible bike, I’ve done 6000 miles on it since I’ve had it, 2000 of those was doing the Scotland NC500, it didn’t miss a beat. Felt so glued to the windy roads but also soaked up the less so smooth tarmac on the bumpy back roads. Highly recommend Lee

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for that, Lee. Tbh, the main reason I have ruled it out is one of cost. I'd prefer not to sink too much money into a second bike, which I really would like to ride and forget. I know what I'm like and would be constantly polishing and tweaking the MS :)

[@kkiwi54]

Biggest bike let-down for me was when my father made me take back the brand new Suzuki GT380 I had bought at age 16 while he was away on business 😱 😆

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Oh no :)

[@person.X.]

🤣

[@johnsumser9743]

My biggest mistake was the Moto Guzzi V7. A very pretty bike with no power, no suspension, and the worst transmission I have ever tried to use. I put a lot of money into it -- it IS pretty -- but couldn't fix it so I happily sold it. (I saw the new Sportster at a local biker cafe and couldn't believe how ugly it was.)

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Wow, that doesn't sound good. I have yet to try a MG. Thanks for your feedback.

[@leonardbartley5670]

RocketMan embrace a good hearty mid life crisis and go for the V-4 Ducati Streetfighter

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Haha, stay tuned😊

[@oulupulu]

105 hp… but where exactly? 😂

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Maybe they hid it in the panniers, because it wasn’t in the engine🙁

[@SavioureG]

"Why would anybody pick a T120 over a Speed Twin" Because the T120 is the physically larger bike while the Speed Twin is smaller than even a Street Twin. Performance isn't everything, nobody wants to be on a bike that makes them look stupid, no matter how much more powerful it is.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

The T120 is exactly the same size as the Street Twin, now Speed Twin 900. The Speed Twin 1200 only differs by having a 17-inch front wheel, instead of an 18.

[@cbrider726]

I made a major mistake a few years ago and bought the Yamaha 1300 sp . Now its a good looking bike but rides like a big truck. My old 1200 bandit is a much safer and better ride. I own 5 bikes and would never buy again just by looks again . Buyer beware dont buy with your eyes but make sure that you give nay bike a good test ride first.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Agreed👍😊

[@nirmaljustin2530]

7500 euros for the interceptor is tooo damn much. We get it in india for 4500 euros / 3,70,000 rs, which makes it extremely vfm. And too much power in an Indian metropolitan city is a curse. We have idiotic speed limits which I think hasn't been updated since the people had 800cc cars and 100cc bikes and bullock carts.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

4500 is much more realistic

[@jimcook9435]

Don't agree with your NT100 assesment at all. I've had mine (DCT - it's also in black which is how i like all my bikes ) since June and have done 5.5K miles in that time and I've found it to be a great bike. You do realise that it's got 5 different modes, two of which are programmable so you can pretty much make it change gear as want it to? I suspect that you didn't really give it a chance.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your feedback, Jim. The important thing is that the bike suits you and that you enjoy it. Ride safe :)

[@BlueAlgon]

Had a good laugh when you were describing the HD. I ride an F750GS that must have very similar engine to the F900XR. Yes, not that much HP, though the torque is almost the same; I'm trying to say the engines should have a similar character. For the 750GS I agree that the engine performance wouldn't fall within the "exciting" category. Fortunately, I don't care about exciting personally so I don't mind. Now, RocketMan, how about an electric bike? That should be an exciting performance...and silent!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I wouldn't mind an electric bike, but not yet. I'll wait until the batteries are lighter/better and charging times etc have become more realistic. Thanks for your feedback :)

[@Darren.Lindsay]

In regards to the T120/T100 - I fully understand why some people would be perturbed by the drop of the power to the Speed Twin, however I'm 6'5" and found when sitting on the Speed Twin the handlebars were far, far too low for me compared to the more comfortable riding position of the Bonneville T120. In regards to your Transalp/Multistrada, my mate had the Multistrada and he hated it due to the nature of the engine characteristics. You need to ride it with the revs high so it's not as practical as a more "adventure" orientated bike.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your feedback, Darren. I must say that, at 6'2", I didn't really feel the T120 offered that much more room than the ST, but I take your point. Thanks for reminding me about the Ducati's need for high revs. I have seen that you really need to be above 5000rpm to extract the power, and that's really not my riding style, so I need to be mindful of that when I make my choice :)

[@peterferguson7679]

For me the biggest let down is Harley Davidson too low to the ground to heavy and slow road a road glide across America boring a more exciting bike was replica of captain America from the Easy rider film . I know what you are saying about Ducati being expensive I own a V4s multistrader and a BMW GS adventure love them both great bikes the Ducati wins ever time handles better faster more comfortable it's up to the induvial what he likes maybe you should do a Vido of all the bike you have owner going back now to me youth and own a kettle

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Peter. Interesting what you say about the GS vs the Multistrada. Do you have the V2 or the V4?

[@jerhughes500]

The Bobber Black. At the time I was a T120 owner, chosen before the Speed twin came out and a slightly more comfortable riding position. Anyway, I lusted after the Bobber, fell in love with its looks, so I arranged a test ride. I was so disappointed and couldn’t wait to get off it. The dealer asked me my thoughts and I told him “uncomfortable, feels like it doesn’t have suspension, blah blah” to which he replied, “yeah, it’s just a posers bike”. Then a few months ago I went to see an 04 GS1250. All I can say is it felt like a diesel tractor and needless to say I didn’t buy it.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I've never ridden the Bobber, but I've heard from others that it is really uncomfortable. Thanks for your feedback :)

[@barnbersonol]

Worst bike I ever had was the lumbering heavy ugly noisy Triumph Trophy Triple 900. Good for going 120mph in a straight line and nothing else.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Those were heavy bikes

[@kaspersergej]

I own a 750gs and had eyed with the 900xr. Once I drove a loner 900xr I instantly felt that the bike seems to have no power , very rattley and general cheap feeling.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Exactly. One of the more disappointing bikes I’ve owned

[@mickleblade]

Big Rock Moto recently reviewed Ducati's DesertX. Hmm, goes well but the owner's manual doesn't even tell you how to set the chain tension, let alone other basic maintenance! I wonder if all Ducatis are like that?

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I saw that video. Excellent reviews👍

[@paullacey2999]

They want you to go to the dealer thats why!

[@NeilHodges]

Have you considered adding luggage racks and side cases to your Speed Twin? I have them for my Bonneville T120 (no hard feelings) and find it very useful with them.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I have actually got a pair of panniers for the Speed Twin and have used them a couple of times. It's more the riding position that gets to me after a couple of hours, I'd like something a bit more upright. The T120 is much less canted forward compared to the ST :)

[@jeremykeller211]

One of the giveaways that shows the problem with most of the modern bikes is the use of videos that show these bikes on roads more suitable for cars. The new bikes are fast. They are not quick. Quick involves handling.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Good point

[@MsDenver2]

Have you tried the Kawasaki Z1000 Versys very good bike for touring and very good quality finish 👍🏍

[@RocketMan_Moto]

It's on my list of bikes to try. I've read/heard lots of good things about it :)

[@kostasjezuz4846]

Probably the least exciting motorcycle I've ever riden is the Yamaha f6n, so boring! I've riden scooters that are more exciting!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I took my test on one of those, I think

[@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk]

Glad I am not the only one who does not understand the appeal of the T120. I guess men who buy them also prefer those tank top pullovers with no arms. Der!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

😂

[@keinname629]

Yeah - NEW TRANSALP!!! go for it. And try to evade any BMW - it's expensive crap.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I'm wary of BMWs after my experience with the F900XR

[@frankstocker5475]

Aprilia Tuareg 660. If I'm wrong I will buy you a beer.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Cheers! :)

[@anthonyakentiev4997]

p.s. Also that guy is a huge fan of a CrossTourer with DCT. You should definitely watch his videos. Thx!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

👍😊

[@elithegreat6463]

The NT, that’s exactly what I said first time that Turd came out, it’s an overgrown Scooter 🛵👎

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Lol😂

[@donaldgoodinson7550]

The worse bike I have ever owned (and there has been many) was a Yamaha 500 SR.Very heavy on petrol and so sloooow.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your feedback :)

[@TripleSound]

Ducati monster. Bad looks. Engine is meh. Tracer 7. Really I just don’t get what do people like about it. And no I didn’t like the engine. Not on this bike. And I totally agree on the t120 vs the speed twin.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks for your feedback😊

[@LetsStay.Damien]

My 16 year old kawasaki er6f is the perfect bike for me first bike after test in September. I would recommend any new riders to get a cheap bike which you willing to drop. Practice u turns, figure 8s all the rest of it while not being afraid to push the limits. Anyone can go fast in a straight line it's the fine skills which are actually the most fun

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I agree that second hand is the best way to start. My first bike was a 10-year-old Triumph Daytona

[@markkumanninen6524]

I agree warmly, and would add another point: don't buy a too heavy first bike. I broke a 40-year riding pause on a '97 DR650 and learned a thousand little things which would've been harder lessons on a 400+lbs monster - like parking at tricky spots, for instance.

[@alielabdimarras7965]

Oh, I don't date fat birds and don't want obese ugly bikes neither, who rides all the iron pigs??

[@RocketMan_Moto]

:)

[@m.f.m.67]

Your first BMW had an engine made in China...that should have been your first hint.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Indeed🤔

[@mikereeder4337]

Its always a joy to listen to your intelligent reasonings, but which new tall rounder will you favour next? The Tiger 660XC is yet to be anounced, so how about the Aprilia Tuareg maybe?

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Mike. Half the pleasure is in the choosing and the waiting, so I'm taking my time :)

[@freddyfenwick2603]

I'm looking forward to seeing the Honda Hornet 750. Looks to have some nice panniers and a rack box. Negatory on the wind protection however. 17" front wheel should be nice in the twisties. The 21" front wheel should allow the Trans Alp to do some dirt roading, and looks to offer decent wind protection. I guess there is no such thing as a do it all steed.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I'm hoping Honda will give us a 21/18" version and a 19/17" version of the Transalp, a bit like Triumph do with their Tiger, because I personally don't really need massive off-road capabilites.

[@kalaharimine]

Transalp please, considering if I should upgrade from my 87 model.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Definitely looking forward to news of the Transalp next week at EICMA🙏

[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

I would dare say even 30 years ago you could not have gotten a bad motorcycle. In fact I would say other than maybe in the teens and twenties when they were first starting out that you could get genuinely bad rubbish. By the 1930s the general way out engines Etc has been was thought out and in production. Some bikes are always better than other bikes but there are no truly terrible motorcycles only terrible people. Hahaha!

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I don't know, Frank. Braking technology was pretty bad until the early 1980s.

[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

@@RocketMan_Moto again I would differ now my British bikes for the most part have the late model twin leading shoe from 69 to 70. My BMW 100/7 has disc brakes on the front that are very wooden whereas my 600/6 has a set of drum brakes that will burn Rubber stopping. Now in the '60s and seventies especially among the Yamaha and Kawasaki two-stroke that had more motor than the frames could handle you could say those were bad bikes but they were what they were cheap and fast. Everything ran in roller bearings or bushes until Honda started to make four strokes in the 70s cuz everything running and bear aluminum was cheaper to produce. I commuted on a hardtail Magneto equipped 1965 Triumph TR6 and I have had the bike over 40 years. The bsa-250 singles that the Triumph guys like to bad mouth are great little bikes I know I have six of them in all guises. My 250 BSA Enduro bike it won't keep up with the guys on their water cool wonders but I wave at them as their buddies peel them off a tree that they smacked into going 60 miles an hour on a dirt Trail. Sir Herbert Austin used to say good brakes make bad drivers. This was in the 1920s. The only reason we have disc brakes is because of production racing. Let's not forget most of the Japanese disc brakes did not work worse a damn in the rain.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Fair enough👍

[@Grahamvfr]

Biggest let down, any ducati superbike, (1299 panigale was last one I rode ) fast yes, but crude very uncomfortable finniky, they dont do anything more IMO, than the mainstream Japanese super bikes .. apart from look better and impress at bike meets.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

They're the Formula 1 cars of the bike world - sexy, but ultimately somewhat useless

[@chetankrishna]

Hi RM!! Would love to see a review of the Scrambler 900 from your channel!! There aren’t many to be honest.. Thanks in advance 😊

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I'll see what I can do :)

[@chetankrishna]

“read in RM’s voice” 😅

[@kevinbarnbrook4728]

I think the Flyers spent more than double the price of the original RE.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Yes, he has. The price of a Triumph Scrambler 1200…🤔

[@kevinbarnbrook4728]

@@RocketMan_Moto Yes he was ripped off by the customises

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Absolutely🙁 I thought it was good of him to share his woes with the world

[@kevinbarnbrook4728]

@@RocketMan_Moto True, but I bet while you were listening to the story, you were secretly saying to yourself what a pillock?

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Haha, yes! :)

[@nazhif1]

isn't the NT just a road going africa twin?

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Yes, but so dull to ride and look at

[@SuperGinkgo]

Hi RM, love these lists, worst bike I ever had was not so much a let down as a complete basket case, I knew it was but at the time it was my solution, the MZ250... It had been spanked to death and back before I got it and was a complete death trap, though I learnt to hone my inner MacGuyver and at least no one wanted to nick it! Left field guess for what you may have your eye on now the Ducati is waining a bit, if not the new Guzzi that you said warm to below... I think the MV Agusta Turismo-Veloce would float ya boat, I know I would love one of those and it would definately be a big tick off the bucketlist! 😁👍

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Lol, I’d love to try one😀

[@toddmichaels42]

I would check out the new Suzuki V-Strom 800 DE, before I would pull the trigger on the TransAlp... perhaps you could consider that.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I did consider the Suzuki, but I can’t get past the looks😊

[@toddmichaels42]

@@RocketMan_Moto It does seem polarizing... looks-wise... it just seems to offer so much more for the money. I guess, I am just one who would date a 6 if the personality and/or sex was 8 or better... ;-) I still ride a 1 Gen KLR, so what do I know, anyways... 😆

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I agree on the value for money

[@bradcobb3418]

really liked your video and subscribed.👍 my worst bike was a new Honda CBX 550 F2. Great engine which was not a boring as the other 2nd worst bike Honda CB400/4 they both handled very average. Brakes shite and characterless.Faves all 350 yams B,LC,YPVS... and 15 yrs ago I bought a 2000 Ducati 916 ST with 9000miles, now it has 80,000 miles and i totally love it. Just had test ride on the 2022 interceptor as i was criticised by the R.E. (tightarses) groups and after the ride i totally agree with your comments a i thought it felt like a 250cc... look up "bland" in Dictionary and this is it. looking d forward to more of your work 😄🏍

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Thanks, Brad :)

[@UFGgamings]

Test rode the Africa Twin 1100 manual and was disappointed with that too. Tires didnt have enough grip, engine felt unnecessarily vibey, underpowered and overweight compared to the KTM 890 adventure R I test rode a few weeks after that (which had an immobilizer failure after 500 meters, literally, error codes and all). So I completely understand your points about the NT1100 because it's basically the same bike. Best bikes I rode this year: Superadventure S and the Z900RS

[@RocketMan_Moto]

I was also disappointed by the AT. I'd love to try the Z900RS, but can't get hold of a demonstrator down here.

[@Jay_Speed]

Honda seems to loose the plot, heavy bikes and so on.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

They can be too consensual

[@Jagshemasher]

This should be filed under comedy . . . I laughed a lot during this video.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Good... I think :)

[@Jagshemasher]

@@RocketMan_Moto Good

[@Jagshemasher]

@@RocketMan_Moto good . . .my only comment on the T120 is it is more comfortable for passengers as the rear pegs are lower and may make a better tourer . . . but in every other respect the Speed Twin is a better bike, faster and handles better.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Agreed. And thank you :)